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Re: Memoirs From Chile by tensazangetsu20(m): 2:22pm On May 11 |
Bongadu: Story for the gods. |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by ferhyntorlah(f): 10:59am On May 12 |
tensazangetsu20: Phahahahahahahahahahahahaha Why did you say that? I checked the website and it's not active. Lol |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by tensazangetsu20(m): 11:22am On May 12 |
ferhyntorlah: Aside that Chile is very strict with what it let's into the country as agriculture is a huge part of how the country earns money so they don't just allow anything into Chile. Seeds and vegetables aren't allowed in. You can Google SAG, the agency in charge of allowing agricultural produce into Chile. Almost everything you can bring from Nigeria aside maybe canned or processed items Is banned. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by ferhyntorlah(f): 1:04pm On May 12 |
tensazangetsu20: You definitely know your onions. But what is it with some Nigerians who travel outside and wanting Nigerian food items? I for one, am definitely not a big fan of our local foods as they are carbohydrate loaded, and excess carby isn't food for the body. I prefer protein, veggies, healthy fats and minimal carb. These days, I'm more concerned about the functions of the foods inside the body and not the taste, varieties or appearance. |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by tensazangetsu20(m): 1:07pm On May 12 |
ferhyntorlah: Nigerian food is bae o. You will definitely miss it especially my afáng soup and fufu. 4 Likes |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by descarado: 1:13pm On May 12 |
tensazangetsu20:I actually agree with her. One can swallow once in a while but I have completely shifted from Nigerian cuisines. As you age, uou must be fat and obese. Nobody's fault but the low quality food we grow up with. All the swallow, rice, yam, plantain, potatoes, beans will make you obese and prone to some diseases. A plate of an average Nigerian food is 90% carb. And portion control is thrown outta the window. |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by ferhyntorlah(f): 1:45pm On May 12 |
tensazangetsu20: Naaaaaa Not me. I am a rice person, any day, any time loaded with enough non-starchy veggies. 1 Like |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by Bokeeto(m): 5:15pm On May 12 |
tensazangetsu20: Congratulations to you brother, it's been a while I heard from you. I'm, glad you're doing very well in Chile, contrary to what naysayers were saying. I have an appointment with Portugal embassy(VFS) this month, I hope to be granted the visa and tow a similar path to yours. I admire your wealth of knowledge, tenacity and resilience in pursuing your dreams and aspirations. Wishing you all the very best.... 1 Like |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by tensazangetsu20(m): 5:27pm On May 12 |
Bokeeto: You will get the visa in Jesus name. No fear and you will also find a lot of favour in Portugal when you land there 6 Likes |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by Bokeeto(m): 5:39pm On May 12 |
tensazangetsu20: Thank you very much, I really appreciate. God bless you. |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by ihavesense: 5:42pm On May 12 |
Bokeeto:I pray you get the Portugal job seekers visa. Pls I will like to connect with you as I am also interested in moving to Portugal. We are in the same boat o |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by IbeOkehie: 6:22pm On May 12 |
tensazangetsu20: I just met a HAITIAN couple last week. At first I was confused when they were using Spanish because Haitians I know are generally French speaking. So the guy told me they first migrated to Chile, now they're legal migrants to the USA. I immediately thought about you. All the best to you. Good Luck to Nigerians. 4 Likes |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by tensazangetsu20(m): 6:24pm On May 12 |
IbeOkehie: Oh yes there's a lot of Haitian migrants in Chile. they are mostly the only black people you see here. |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by Bongadu: 8:06pm On May 12 |
tensazangetsu20: Venezuelans are black ni , they're much more in Chile |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by Olumighty123(m): 2:34am On May 14 |
descarado: Why not hit the gym instead of you generalizing 🤷♀️ Not everyone grow old to be obesed as you claim my broda 😎 3 Likes |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by Karleb(m): 8:43am On May 14 |
Olumighty123: My brother, some people are even praying to gain small weight. We are not alike abeg. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by descarado: 3:21pm On May 16 |
Olumighty123:Ehen you eat right, you do not need the gym. Some sick people don't hit the gym, some elders don't hit the gym. Good heath and body is 70 healthy food which unfortunately we are at the bottom of the ladder( ask UN) and the reason a average Nigerian man has lifespan of less than 60yrs. Very poor. We never see eating healthy as a national problem because we will defend anything we do. In usa, the same fate awaits black American. The most unhealthy among the bunch. Either we accept it or continue in denial. Our choice or rather, your choice |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by 2021: 10:03pm On May 17 |
Bro, do you know anything regarding the birth tourism in Chile? |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by tensazangetsu20(m): 10:11pm On May 17 |
2021: This is tricky in Chile. For your child to get citizenship in Chile, the parents must have residency. Either temporary or permanent. Coming here with a visit visa to birth doesn't guarantee anything for the Child and for the parents. There's a special temporary residency sub visa category for pregnant women which I know Russians, Ukrainians and eastern Europeans use to birth but I don't know if they will approve it for a Nigerian but you can research and try your luck. 1 Like |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by 2021: 8:12pm On May 18 |
tensazangetsu20: Thanks so much, i truly appreciate. God bless. Another one please, can you put the link to chile visa online application here. All the ones i have seen are not just the right websites. Thanks once again. |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by tensazangetsu20(m): 10:50pm On May 18 |
Halfway through my program and we have to start formulating our thesis. Apparently, thesis must be in English. I was so worried about writing it in Spanish cause of just how big it is. I really can't wait to finish men ![]() ![]() My dad calls me strong man whenever we talk. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by Newusername(m): 12:08am On May 19 |
I am so happy for you bro. I remembered when I first saw your post about programming since then I became a follower. I just went through your old post from your first post and all I can say is wow! I will not give up too, I will keep showing up and one day my consistency will pay off just as you. You have come a long way same as @qtguru. You guys are true inspiration. One day I will tell my story here. Keep growing Bro. 3 Likes |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by tensazangetsu20(m): 12:38am On May 19 |
Newusername: Never give up on your programming dreams. Learning programming was the best thing I ever did for myself to be honest. 3 Likes |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by tensazangetsu20(m): 1:04am On May 19 |
A few tips of advice I will give to anyone leaving Nigeria to study abroad. I believe these tips apply to every reasonable country out there: If you can, avoid doing a one year masters program. Go for 2 years. This is because the job search to get into a career driven job in the current labour market can take a very long time and you need enough time to make your mistakes. Mistakes like poor cv and bad Interviews are better done early ahead so you can learn the system very well. Also if you are migrating to a non English speaking country, you can get better in the language spoken in the country in that extra time. Start your job search early. I am shocked that people wait until graduation or very close to graduation to start applying to jobs. This is a disaster in every country on earth. Big multinationals recruit a year in advance and most of them can even allow you set your start date a year in advance if you manage to scale the interviews. Also interviews can take as long as six months or even more depending on the type of organization. Start your job search from the day you enter the country. Don't wait and waste time. Don't focus a lot on GPA. So long as you can maintain the upper distinction range, prioritize the job search much more. Outside Nigeria, most people don't care. They mostly care about what you are able to do and can do. If you are looking to switch careers, learn the skills in Nigeria especially if you are going into tech. If possible, try and get some experience from Nigeria even if it's internships that don't pay a lot. You have the infrastructure abroad yes, internet, electricity and practically everything you need but the truth is except you are well funded from Nigeria and won't need to do any side jobs to pay bills, you won't have time to pick up any new skill abroad. There's also the fact of getting an entry level tech role in a new country which is mostly reserved for new graduates. Most masters students graduating are expected to have some sort of experience. Some schools won't even admit you without you having some work experience. Learn from your mistakes especially with interviews. Mistakes are very expensive. You want to make sure that each interview you go through is better than the last. This is very important. If you take your interviews nonchalantly, you might finish and not get anything. I personally prepare for each job interview like I am going to war. I also try to record my interviews and think of how I could have structured my answers better and apply that to the next interview. Last last, hold God tight o. I used to be so irreligious in Nigeria but men I don't even know how my life would have been if I didn't find God to be honest. 28 Likes 6 Shares |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by Newusername(m): 6:04am On May 19 |
tensazangetsu20:I will not give up sir. Thank you. |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by magnum247: 7:17am On May 19 |
tensazangetsu20:Bro, I have been following this thread from almost day one and I find it really insightful. I have a degree in computer science and intend to leave the country soon. The issue now is that it was not the main course I intended to study but the country happened but nevertheless, I made good grades. Now, I know tech is big over there and I intend to start all over cause I have left it for a while now. I used to code java before, could create desktop apps before, learnt it during my IT and was quite good but now, which programming language or stack will you advise me to take up cause God willing, I will leave the country latest 1Q of next year. |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by tensazangetsu20(m): 11:36am On May 19 |
magnum247: I rarely advise on skills but to be honest so far as you are good in your chosen field, there's opportunities for everything out there. 2 Likes |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by Bongadu: 11:41am On May 19 |
magnum247: Java or C# 1 Like |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by magnum247: 1:36pm On May 19 |
Bongadu:Alright, thank you |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by magnum247: 1:36pm On May 19 |
tensazangetsu20:Thank you |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by Tunni: 4:16pm On May 19 |
Greetings bro @ tensazangetsu20 What’s your advise for people like us who has no science or tech background but are willing to switch. I Don’t mind starting afresh. The world is moving so fast with tech. I’m not in Nigeria currently Please what do you suggest I do? |
Re: Memoirs From Chile by Gerrard59(m): 4:40am On May 20 |
tensazangetsu20: First, this post by my Oga was triggered by this Reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/recruitinghell/comments/1cu9laq/goldman_sachs_offer_rescinded/?share_id=_vsXS_Za_PDPbHGAEzLDd&utm_content=1&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=3 As I promised him, I would narrate my experiences. If you can, avoid doing a one year masters program. Go for 2 years. This is because the job search to get into a career driven job in the current labour market can take a very long time and you need enough time to make your mistakes. Mistakes like poor cv and bad Interviews are better done early ahead so you can learn the system very well. The bold is very true. If not two years, at least 18 months so you use six months to learn work or three months if you have no part-time job or funding issue. One year is ONLY applicable when you have cognate work experience in Nigeria and preferably in an English-speaking country. So, as a tech bro, this means you know your leetcode and data structures segment very well. You would MAKE A LOT of MISTAKES. It is sacrosanct. First thing: Start applying the moment you enter the country. Yes, start sending CVs and slating interviews. This is where I almost made a mistake and my Oga warned me of the consequences. So, start early. I was comparing myself to Japanese students who have a different calendar and so many advantages of native fluency and knowledge. Also, due to the long recruitment process, you need to be in the system, aka appropriate visa. My Oga has shared with me an Indian narration of a Google interview which took at least 8 months. So, you need to be in the system to continue such a long and gruelling interview. Also if you are migrating to a non English speaking country, you can get better in the language spoken in the country in that extra time. I find this very memorable. Before leaving Nigeria, I DID NOT KNOW A BIT of Japanese. But in my second month, I enrolled on the university's Japanese courses even though they did not contribute to my final grades. Also, I applied for part-time jobs , not necessarily for monetary purposes, but to practice the language as my life was largely a straight line of laboratory and hostel. I recall Tensa20 telling me to approach random Japanese in a bid to practice the language as he did in Chile. Such cannot work here as it would be a blatant invasion of privacy. Nonetheless, I struggled o. I remember looking at Kanji characters repeating them countless times to the point of biting my lips. It was not easy. I am not a Chinese or Korean whose languages have connections/similarities to Japanese. Or Vietnamese who studied the language to an appreciable level before coming here (I respect them for their steadfastness in learning the language). So, if you want a good career job in a non-English speaking country, a two-year program makes more sense than its one-year counterpart. Start your job search early. I am shocked that people wait until graduation or very close to graduation to start applying to jobs. This is a disaster in every country on earth. Big multinationals recruit a year in advance and most of them can even allow you set your start date a year in advance if you manage to scale the interviews. Also interviews can take as long as six months or even more depending on the type of organization. Start your job search from the day you enter the country. Don't wait and waste time. As I stated above, IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. I had my first interview this February for an application I made in December. Because you would make a lot of mistakes, you need to increase your chances of getting an offer while having the right visa. Interviews take a long time and could even be cancelled or postponed indefinitely. So, start early. Additionally, apply to as many positions as possible. The more applications, the higher your chances of being called for a test or interview or group discussions. I don write aptitude tests in Japanese (SPI as called here). Failed some, especially at the beginning and have passed the rest so far. In fact, I like writing them so my hand go strong. Also, attend career sessions, especially for international students. These are your best chances of meeting companies that are open to employing foreign students even accounting for language difficulties. There was no career session I did not attend. Organised by the regional city office or national government agency, I put in an application. In fact, while having four final interviews, I was still attending sessions and applying. Don't focus a lot on GPA. So long as you can maintain the upper distinction range, prioritize the job search much more. Outside Nigeria, most people don't care. They mostly care about what you are able to do and can do. Again, this is true. Just maintain a reasonable threshold. Anything Efiko or First class should be kept in Nigeria except you are part of the 1% who can perform exceptionally. However, in this global economic crises (e choke everywhere o), prioritising your job search is extremely important, else na you and Tinubu go dey shine teeth. If you are looking to switch careers, learn the skills in Nigeria especially if you are going into tech. If possible, try and get some experience from Nigeria even if it's internships that don't pay a lot. You have the infrastructure abroad yes, internet, electricity and practically everything you need but the truth is except you are well funded from Nigeria and won't need to do any side jobs to pay bills, you won't have time to pick up any new skill abroad. There's also the fact of getting an entry level tech role in a new country which is mostly reserved for new graduates. Most masters students graduating are expected to have some sort of experience. Some schools won't even admit you without you having some work experience. I would elucidate this further using real-life stories of two of my buddies here: Person A and Person B. Person A got admitted into the same university a year ahead of Person B. Both had a first class in engineering courses from good universities in Nigeria. Both were fully funded by the university and did not have to pay tuition fees. Person A had no work experience in tech as he got the scholarship offer after his service. While Person B worked in Lagos in two tech companies for three years. Person A toured Japan very well, but had no leetcode experience. Person B spent his time rehearsing and learning leetcode. As at when both graduated, none knew Japanese. Not boasting, my Japanese is way better than theirs, though both are one year and two years ahead of me in residing here. Person A left it late in job hunting after declining a scholarship offer to extend his MSc to PhD. Person B also declined the PhD offer. About three-four months before graduation, Person A began job hunting, and after his experiences of firms emphasising knowledge of the language or being exposed to leetcode questions, he sought to regain his PhD offer, but was declined. Here, once you say something, that is what everyone takes, no going back. Person B, OTOH, attended job hunting sessions for international students. He got an offer, asked for a higher salary and got his request approved. He asked for further increment and was declined. During this time, Person B was being disturbed on LinkedIn by recruiters to the extent he deactivated his account. Before this period, he aced the final interview for a $110K per annum remote job, but got declined the offer because he was on a student visa rather than the minimum of a permanent residency permit. Unlike Chile, Japan's immigration rules are strict on remote jobs while being an international student. Not relenting, Person B with his advanced leetcode skills applied to more openings, aced ALL the interviews and got two attractive offers of $3,300K and $5K per month equivalent respectively. Expectedly, he chose the latter. Person A is now learning leetcode and building his portfolio. Me? I stoopidly attempted to learn cybersecurity, but Tensa20 cautioned me that it should be learnt by those who have previous tech experience, not tyros. However, this was clashing with my Japanese language classes, laboratory sessions and part-time work. Nobody tell me to drop am like hot potato. So, if you are changing careers, get the experience and rudimentary knowledge while in Nigeria. P.S. If you know you cannot pursue a PhD, you better start planning your life after your MSc. Don't be like the Turkish dude who declined an extension of his scholarship only to waste time on American PhD applications or the American dude who now asks himself why is he even doing a PhD or the Nigerian dude who hasn't been able to publish a paper whereas the minimum requirement is to publish three original papers (he dropped out recently after spending four years without head-way in arranging even one paper) or the Iranian lady wey never even submit any form of thesis and hasn't come up with a paper to publish (the same minimum requirement of three papers) Learn from your mistakes especially with interviews. Mistakes are very expensive. You want to make sure that each interview you go through is better than the last. This is very important. If you take your interviews nonchalantly, you might finish and not get anything. This is where I did not learn fast. I made a lot of mistakes in my early interviews; from inappropriate dressing to non-usage of proper Japanese interview terms. During interviews, standard Japanese is not used, but the advanced form called - Keigo. I no sabi, and this ignorance dealt with me brutally. I had to start taking notes of each interview in how I mis-performed and what and how I should do to improve. Even my first English interview, I goofed. However, subsequent interviews were good, but no offer (more on this). I have interviewed with companies across Japan and even the UK headquarters of a firm. One even gave me his number to contact him when my Japanese improves. Another said I should contact them when my language skill improves. Yet another said I should contact her (she added me on LinkedIn) when my language level has improved. One said it was too early to make an offer in the industry, so I should contact him later. Moreover, through my Singaporean friend at a church I attend, I have been interviewed by Singaporean representatives of companies even though I know nothing will come out. This is because the companies clearly stated that the successful candidate will be posted to Southeast Asia to work in one of the offices. Nobody will post a black man to manage a branch in Southeast Asia. But I needed the interview experience. I don pay train ticket to an interview in Tokyo so I experience my first face-to-face interview. Normally, companies offer to pay your transport fare for face-to-face interviews. But I did this to get that face-face meeting experience. Me bin don tire for Zoom and Google interviews. Last last, hold God tight o. I used to be so irreligious in Nigeria but men I don't even know how my life would have been if I didn't find God to be honest. Me and Tensa20 aligned in a lot of ways and more so in how irreligious we were, at least while in Nigeria. But I recalled in the last three final interviews I had, I entered hot prayers o. I called my parents and siblings make them pray for me. I resumed attendance at the Nigerian church here. I made offerings and kept a clean state. I prayed o. I meditated. Finally, I got what I wanted - a good job at a multinational. It was not an easy process, but good things don't come cheap, especially in a period of global economic crises and being a black person. Tensa20 mentioned going for a war. Yes! That should be your modus operandi - every interview is a war. Go fully prepared! Don't leave things to chance. You are going there to fight, literally. Review your mistakes from previous interviews. I learnt how to structure my interview answers by attending interview sessions for international students. No shame say you are the only black person. As long as you are invited or there, it means you have something inside your head. I have competed with Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese and Japanese (all while speaking Japanese). I passed some and failed some. This is why you have to start early. For instance, the scholarships I currently enjoy, my competitors were Chinese. Half of the attendees at the job fairs I've attended are Chinese. Even though Tensa20 does not believe in this, I considered it a back-up: network with people who have been there. I have emailed the Igbo Union President for assistance and he responded very well, but did not give assurances. To be fair, the only assurance you need is a signed offer letter. No offer letter? No job. I have a Japanese lady in the corporate space whom I emailed one night to connect me to internships (I have done four so far). She too responded well, but no assurances. I went through another Igbo girl to connect to a prominent black man in Japan. She relayed my message, but no assurance of a connection. So, to an extent, I do agree with Tensa20 here. But if it works for you, fair enough. Best wishes! 24 Likes 11 Shares |
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