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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:21am On May 19
Marjoribanks:
How can a National team have a define playing style when it is not club football?
Which country has a define playing style? You adjust your style to the players you have!

I know no say you get sense like this πŸ‘‹πŸΏ
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:22am On May 19
Marjoribanks:
Without Osimhen we are not beating both SA and Benin!

Is Boniface injured 🧐
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:34am On May 19
Longneck:
And the Belgium league Onuachu scored for fun is how many steps higher?

Hebd scored for fun in the much lower quality Belgium league but on arrival in the EPL he could not score to save his life or his team from getting relegated.

Nuff said.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:37am On May 19
ChrisKels:


When Doherty talks, he backs it up with both quotes, interviews and pictorial(videos) evidences, but you want us to overlook that in favour of your usual cock and bull stories that are always devoid of substance? Mai'friend will you shut up there!!!

Give me one back up reference point of Docherty substantiated by a player not two just one please ❓

So you want me breach confidentiality, anonymity, on a faceless forum to pander to your need for bitter leaf 🌿 soup 🍲.

You can believe it or not 🚫 it's of no consequence to me.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 8:43am On May 19
mostob:
Thank you for the memories. Nowadays, teams will be trailing by 2 goals with 15 minutes to go only to be passing the ball around.


Football then was like Basketball, You might be winning 3-0, 4-0, with just 10mins to go, Then the opposition will just fashion one correct magic from no where, and before you say Jack it's 4-4
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:48am On May 19
elyte89:


Komekn shld disappoint us one day and just post a pic evidence to back up his claims dt truly he speaks with dis players

Why would you want me to do that on a faceless forum.

Do you think πŸ€” I need the recognition of this forum 😞.

What would constitute evidence 🧾 to you❓ just curious πŸ€”

I'm sure if did post pictures πŸ˜‰ many would still not believe anyway. They would say Photoshop not TRUE it's LIES. There are some who think πŸ’¬ i am in Ajegunle or Makoko or Warri πŸ’¦ waterside idu, etc.

I think πŸ€” I've only did it once when l was at a tournament in Mallorca in explaining the relevance of the competition. Many still thought it be contrived.

In all honesty I'm not particularly bothered whether people believe or not. Sometimes people prefer the comfortable LIE to the uncomfortable TRUTH.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:52am On May 19
ChrisKels:


He knows shit and doesn't speak with no one. Nobody sabi am, and him no sabi anyone.

See πŸ™ˆ bitter acid rancour coming from eating a diet of bitter 🀒 leaf 🌿 soup 🍲 with stale fish 🐟. Anchored on naked envy and jealousy βš“.

Have coke 🍾and a smile 😊 you are too BITTER

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:58am On May 19
lovewins:


Two things can be true at the same time. Doherty had a context for this post and it wasn't the corruption at the NFF. He had at another time spoken about the corruption in the NFF and the football competition he organized for players of Nigerian descent (which you acknowledged). He really has no neee to cap here, they guy shows workings.

The crux of the post is for Nigerians to show grace to players as they make their decisions.

Let me ask you to empathise for a moment hypothetically.

Imagine you are a EPL young top player and some strange guy you don't know from Adam. Comes to ask abruptly from nowhere, 😲 do you want to play for Nigeria ❓

What would the be the expression on your face πŸ€”β“

Who the heck 😀 is this and what does he want 🧐

Compared to somebody you see quite often is friends with your coaches and agent and you have affinity with. People talk sincerely with people they know πŸ˜‰ not with people they don't know.

I have said this a million times in order to get Nigerian origin players you need to create relationships.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:01am On May 19
elyte89:



Lol πŸ˜‚β€¦dis guy ,komekn go jail u one day πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€,he always claim he lives in London ,now wey I Dey here ,baba change mouth say him neva live here b4 …I wan c d guy πŸ˜€

I've never said I live in London.

I've always said the North West of England, which is TRUE.

I may visit London quite a lot it's a 2 hour train πŸš† ride from Manchester or Liverpool.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:05am On May 19
charlesemeka85:
πŸ‡¦πŸ‡·πŸ—£οΈ Lionel Scaloni: "We are losing the essence of football. Not only at a professional level, but also with kids."

"My children play in Spain and are overwhelmed with information. They receive the ball, and they're already being told what to do."

"There are fewer dribblers because if they barely get the ball and you say, 'Pass it!'... Imagine if Messi, when he was eight years old, had been constantly told by his coaches to "Pass it!" We wouldn't have him today."

"Football has become such a huge thing, everyone reads, studies, and thinks that with that, they can already manage."

"If you tell a 7 or 8-year-old to make a diagonal run, cover defensively... He's seven years old! Let him play with the ball, make mistakes, and when he's 14 or 15, then we can start correcting."

"It's a message for the future. This is a sport, and the beauty of football should not be lost."

I don't agree at all.

In most academies it's keep the ball up until 10/11 then after that it's passing ability it's not say they don't pass the ball at age 9.

Just greater emphasis on individual technical ability development. I must say Everton and quite a few other clubs are not like that they emphatically teach positional play, team formation , passing, etc.

Right now in the top academies in England the art of the dribble is now PARAMOUNT.

ENGLAND use to be the kick 🦡🏿 and rush πŸƒπŸΏβ€β™€οΈ masters but right now English boys are the new ballers it's all changed.

Unfortunately in Nigeria we are loosing our DNA and don't seem to produce too many ballers anymore.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:32am On May 19
Napoleon55:

Where exactly did I have it completely wrong?
that we should not have competent coaches manage our age grades and discover talented players to be developed and nurtured for future use?

Many great players came through from our youth program or age grade teams.
The likes of
Kanu,
Babayaro,
Oruma,
Mikel,
Osimhen,
Ikpeba,
Chukwueze,
Ndidi,
Iheanacho,
Awoniyi etc
.

It was after good performance from from age grade competitions that most of these players were signed by European clubs.

Do u think an incompetent coach would be able to spot good and talented players and train them into a championship winning team?
there by exposing them for everyone to see making it easier for them to attract foreign clubs and becomes professionals for supers eagles coaches to select

Or what would u have us do?
wait for those foreign born with all those privileges,trained from the cradle by foreign clubs,
then start dragging them with other countries, start holding meetings upon meetings with their parents, agents and their representatives before we can get some of them to play for us,yet we won't be able to get the best of them to represent us no matter how hard we try.

No,we are much more capable of producing our our talents who would represent us with pride,it does matter where they end up being nurtured and trained into a full blown professionals.


Consider the players in bold they were primarily nurtured and developed in Europe. They did not hit the ground running and even now there are gaps in their development that can be seen even today.

The others players brought their swag 😎, skill, technical ability, tenacity, athletic ability straight from Nigeria to Europe and hit the ground running. Players like Kanu, JJay, Ikpeba, Mikel, etc .

That era of footballers ⚽⚽⚽ we no longer have and or produce. Europe has upped the game in players development but we have remained stagnant.

If you plant ground nuts πŸ₯œπŸ₯œ you will not harvest Yam 🍠🍠. We don't have a good professional and quality league with good academy systems for players progression. We have a duplicity of football ⚽ academies across the country, with one objective sell players to European clubs. That's not development but business for profit.

You may want to disagree with me but thses boys have manufactured ages and on arrival in Europe many have short shell lives and don't get to high heights.

Many are abandoned in Europe washing cars for a living unwilling to return back to Nigeria with broken πŸ’” dreams.

I don't think we are with the current infrastructure facilities coaching staff capable of producing player's that can hit the ground running in top leagues of Europe 🌍. Like the way Ikpeba, Mikel, Keshi, Kanu, Finidi, Olise did in their time.

There are thousands of Nigerian origin players in football ⚽ academies across Europe not all can play for their European countries of birth. Some will reject their countries of birth and play for their fatherlands.

But then imagine I got players from Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester United & City😞, Arsenal, to flood the U17 all of you will start crying 😭 discrimination and favouritism. They are discriminating against our home born boys.

We don't like competence in Nigeria we prefer emotional preference not excellence.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:40am On May 19
There is certain U15 striker that plays for Chelsea astounding ability. He plays alongside Thiago son for Chelsea.

He was called to the England trials but rejected for a white player who cannot stand on any comparison with him. It's like comparing darkness πŸŒ‘ to light πŸ•―οΈ.

But our guy was rejected , if Nigeria had a relationship and strategy there boys would 🦘 to play for Nigeria.

But alas they will not sign with NFF agents and sign contract that will enrich NFf officials. So I can't see that happening.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:45am On May 19
Joebie:
I no get ur last paragraph


Out delta boys when I see na only pidgin ( broken) dem fit speak πŸ—£οΈ they cannot speak πŸ™Š Uhrobo or Isoko.

Meanwhile the boys with Igbo and Yoruba parents a good number can speak πŸ—£οΈ Yoruba and Igbo and some have never been to Nigeria.

I was thinking of organising an excursion trip to Nigeria for like 10-20 players of Nigerian origin to Nigeria in the U17 age group who all play for EPL clubs

What do you think ❓
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 10:01am On May 19
komekn:


Out delta boys when I see na only pidgin ( broken) dem fit speak πŸ—£οΈ they cannot speak πŸ™Š Uhrobo or Isoko.

Meanwhile the boys with Igbo and Yoruba parents a good number can speak πŸ—£οΈ Yoruba and Igbo and some have never been to Nigeria.

I was thinking of organising an excursion trip to Nigeria for like 10-20 players of Nigerian origin to Nigeria in the U17 age group who all play for EPL clubs

What do you think ❓

Another empty talks. Organise it and show us pictures and videos as evidence the way Doherty does. We still have pictures of Michael Obafemi when Doherty did his in England. Yours are always empty talks without substance. You don't need oniovo's approval to do that, abi you dun dey already look for excuses through that path? grin grin

Air Peace has already crashed the flight ticket through that route. If na flight ticket I can buy for one player when they come, just to ensure you organize it. Enough of the empty words mai'friend.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:15pm On May 19
TheGoodJoe:


That is not the point of debate. Be coherent when debating. The point is fair and corrupt free camp. Nothing he stated disagreed with that. And, I let him understand that.

Finito.
Understand what?my point was Osimhen came to open camp based on recommendation.If you don't know Osimhen was drove to Abuja by agent Shira Ayila a brother to ex international Yusuf Ayila....Did I accused Amunike of corruption regarding open camping?NO but fact Amunike got developmental fee from Nwakali transferred which you said is normal cuz he was part of his development but did he got the same developmental fee from Osimhen transferred fee since he was also involved in his development.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lovewins: 12:22pm On May 19
komekn:


Let me ask you to empathise for a moment hypothetically.

Imagine you are a EPL young top player and some strange guy you don't know from Adam. Comes to ask abruptly from nowhere, 😲 do you want to play for Nigeria ❓

What would the be the expression on your face πŸ€”β“

Who the heck 😀 is this and what does he want 🧐

Compared to somebody you see quite often is friends with your coaches and agent and you have affinity with. People talk sincerely with people they know πŸ˜‰ not with people they don't know.

I have said this a million times in order to get Nigerian origin players you need to create relationships.

Again, I agree with you that Mola's prior experience with the NFF may have contributed to his reservations when it comes to playing for Nigeria so I wasn't disagreeing with you, that however wasn't the point Doherty was trying to make. I am very well aware he isn't shy in calling out the NFF and has at other times spoken about the experiences players of Nigerian decent face when trying to represent the country, that however wasn't then intention behind his post. It was more about Nigerians showing grace to them as they make this important decision.

To the point your raised, I'm aware Doherty is quite familiar with a couple of those players. He's organised age grade competitions in a bid to get some of them into the u17 team. Maybe not mola specifically, but I'm almost certain that wasn't the first time they were meeting.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by solonnachi: 12:59pm On May 19
Please what time is Golden Eaglets match with Niger today?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:13pm On May 19
Kog45:
Understand what?my point was Osimhen came to open camp based on recommendation.If you don't know Osimhen was drove to Abuja by agent Shira Ayila a brother to ex international Yusuf Ayila....Did I accused Amunike of corruption regarding open camping?NO but fact Amunike got developmental fee from Nwakali transferred which you said is normal cuz he was part of his development but did he got the same developmental fee from Osimhen transferred fee since he was also involved in his development.

I said, if Amunike ran a corrupt camp, a pure water seller would not get picked over children connected to politicians and established agents.

Osimhen was dropped and used a second chance to get in. There was no preference.

Saying someone recommended or drove him down does not relate to him getting into the camp outside his own quality and potential.

So what is your point?


As for developmental fee, the family said it was them that requested and included it. It also went to the whole coaching crew. I heard Amunike had played a role in his growth since Iheanacho's U17 camping days.

Finally, if Mino Raoila or Jorge Mendes drove Osimhen to camp, Osimhen said without Amunike he won't be where he is. Give the man some respect.

Finito.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 1:54pm On May 19
TheGoodJoe:


That is not the point of debate. Be coherent when debating. The point is fair and corrupt free camp. Nothing he stated disagreed with that. And, I let him understand that.

Finito.
The context is camping and what happens in the course of the exercise. You have no practical experience. But then keep arguing

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzerooo: 2:35pm On May 19
It's in God's hands now

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 2:39pm On May 19
komekn:


Consider the players in bold they were primarily nurtured and developed in Europe. They did not hit the ground running and even now there are gaps in their development that can be seen even today.

The others players brought their swag 😎, skill, technical ability, tenacity, athletic ability straight from Nigeria to Europe and hit the ground running. Players like Kanu, JJay, Ikpeba, Mikel, etc .

That era of footballers ⚽⚽⚽ we no longer have and or produce. Europe has upped the game in players development but we have remained stagnant.

If you plant ground nuts πŸ₯œπŸ₯œ you will not harvest Yam 🍠🍠. We don't have a good professional and quality league with good academy systems for players progression. We have a duplicity of football ⚽ academies across the country, with one objective sell players to European clubs. That's not development but business for profit.

You may want to disagree with me but thses boys have manufactured ages and on arrival in Europe many have short shell lives and don't get to high heights.

Many are abandoned in Europe washing cars for a living unwilling to return back to Nigeria with broken πŸ’” dreams.

I don't think we are with the current infrastructure facilities coaching staff capable of producing player's that can hit the ground running in top leagues of Europe 🌍. Like the way Ikpeba, Mikel, Keshi, Kanu, Finidi, Olise did in their time.

There are thousands of Nigerian origin players in football ⚽ academies across Europe not all can play for their European countries of birth. Some will reject their countries of birth and play for their fatherlands.

But then imagine I got players from Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester United & City😞, Arsenal, to flood the U17 all of you will start crying 😭 discrimination and favouritism. They are discriminating against our home born boys.

We don't like competence in Nigeria we prefer emotional preference not excellence.
So from all these u've highlighted,
what do u think we should do so that super eagles coaches should have pool of quality players to select?
A viable option.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 2:54pm On May 19
komekn:
There is certain U15 striker that plays for Chelsea astounding ability. He plays alongside Thiago son for Chelsea.

He was called to the England trials but rejected for a white player who cannot stand on any comparison with him. It's like comparing darkness πŸŒ‘ to light πŸ•―οΈ.

But our guy was rejected , if Nigeria had a relationship and strategy there boys would 🦘 to play for Nigeria.

But alas they will not sign with NFF agents and sign contract that will enrich NFf officials. So I can't see that happening.
This boy's rejection over a white boy,
what should we call it?
corruption? prejudice?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 3:04pm On May 19
komekn:


See πŸ™ˆ bitter acid rancour coming from eating a diet of bitter 🀒 leaf 🌿 soup 🍲 with stale fish 🐟. Anchored on naked envy and jealousy βš“.

Have coke 🍾and a smile 😊 you are too BITTER
Egusi bitter leaf soup is probably the best soup and most healthy soup.
u should try it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by dankorode(m): 3:30pm On May 19
solonnachi:
Please what time is Golden Eaglets match with Niger today?
7pm
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:30pm On May 19
Mujtahida:

The context is camping and what happens in the course of the exercise. You have no practical experience. But then keep arguing

The context can't be camping when it came from a response to my statement. The context was if Amunike ran a corrupt camp, a pure water seller would not have become the star of the team when there are people who could pay big for such slot.

Finito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:55pm On May 19
Marjoribanks:
Judging a player by number of goals and appearance shows a statistician that lacks quality ... Even one goal from open play in 6 is a poor return.
A good statistician consider many factors such as chances created, missed, shot on target, off target etc not the peripheral of just goals and appearance.
Based on those factors Dessers does not deserve Super Eagles call.
I am not just a statistician/mathematician myself, I am an economists as well therefore other factors are important to me.
Lookman is not a striker but you can see the talent there. Moffi was great at AFCON.
Sadiq has been poor just like Dessers.

What you claim to be which I have no doubts is not what your anchor βš“ most of your responses upon.

You are more emotive preference than objective measurement.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 3:58pm On May 19
Arsenal is winning the league today!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 3:59pm On May 19
Marjoribanks:
Arsenal is winning the league today!


Winners Chappell ni πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:59pm On May 19
Marjoribanks:
A player that consistently miss sitters is not good enough for the Super Eagles!
Dessers is not good enough for us.

Osimhen, Boni, Awo, Moffi, and Kele!

Kele can play few other roles!

Statistician by what unit of measurement did you place KC in that list please πŸ₯Ί
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 4:01pm On May 19
We shall see!
elyte89:



Winners Chappell ni πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 4:01pm On May 19
Someone needs to collect Komekn phone! lol!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:04pm On May 19
ChrisKels:


Another empty talks. Organise it and show us pictures and videos as evidence the way Doherty does. We still have pictures of Michael Obafemi when Doherty did his in England. Yours are always empty talks without substance. You don't need oniovo's approval to do that, abi you dun dey already look for excuses through that path? grin grin

Air Peace has already crashed the flight ticket through that route. If na flight ticket I can buy for one player when they come, just to ensure you organize it. Enough of the empty words mai'friend.

Bitter leaf 🌿 at work 🀒

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