Courz:


Why are you focusing on only the King James Version? In all the Verses I mentioned in this thread, did you see only king James Version? Your points are useless! I quoted as many translations as possible and you saw how a lot of them aligned with the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts. You are trying to deviate from the grave sin your Watchtower has done but it will never work! You have failed!

Get this very clear! Watchtower changed , added or removed words from your Bible that don't align with your doctrines. They did this so that the verses can give a completely different message from that of the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts! This is the essence of this thread I created. Have other translations changed the message that is supposed to be contained in the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts? If there are translations who have done this, they have also committed the same sin which is why we have Bible websites to make comparison. This is exactly what I did in this thread. Therefore, you have no single argument. Your points are useless. You think you can use the King James Version as a shield against the Sin your Cult has committed. You have failed. And you have shown that you are indeed in support of Manipulated Bible verses. Remember, you will be judged by Almighty God for doing this.

Oga
You're a fool
Let's now leave KJV
Mention another translation and I'll show you if it is accurate na
Go and show those images to them
Unlike us, they are peddlers of God's word

We're moving forward, your reward is pain and gnashing of teeth
We're soon having our special conventions and looking forward to that joyous moments
Interestingly, you visit our websites more than many of us and watch all our video and have our Bibles and library all but you abuse us for doing this. Una still de carry your ugly face enter assembly halls and KH and listen attentively. Una still de watch our updates and broadcasts and morning worships. You know the names of our governing members and their helpers

No peace for the wicked apostate
People in darkness laughing at those in the light but wanting to see everything that illuminates them just to find fault...
😂 😂 😂

Don't worry, we're already on an epic to bring out the life of Jesus as a video series. It will be an epic and your madness won't make you close your eyes. It won't be like the passion of Christ that has scenes of violence or to make profit or where some of the actors don't even know Christ or Mary Magdalene smoking on set...
Your headache is stronger than that if Jesus opposers combined
Keep wailing

You can't even stand to defend against a Muslim or atheist on NL but na JW be your problem

Fornicator Aemmyjah, your Manipulated Bible has the word "Substitute" added there that doesn't exist at all in the Greek manuscript. Whereas every other translation correctly shows that the word doesn't exist. Why did your Cult add the word in your manipulated Bible? This is the essence of this thread!

Aemmyjah:


Oga
You're a fool
Let's now leave KJV
Mention another translation and I'll show you if it is accurate na
Go and show those images to them
Unlike us, they are peddlers of God's word

We're moving forward, your reward is pain and gnashing of teeth
We're soon having our special conventions and looking forward to that joyous moments
Interestingly, you visit our websites more than many of us and watch all our video and have our Bibles and library all but you abuse us for doing this. Una still de carry your ugly face enter assembly halls and KH and listen attentively. Una still de watch our updates and broadcasts and morning worships. You know the names of our governing members and their helpers

No peace for the wicked apostate
People in darkness laughing at those in the light but wanting to see everything that illuminates them just to find fault...
😂 😂 😂

Don't worry, we're already on an epic to bring out the life of Jesus as a video series. It will be an epic and your madness won't make you close your eyes. It won't be like the passion of Christ that has scenes of violence or to make profit or where some of the actors don't even know Christ or Mary Magdalene smoking on set...
Your headache is stronger than that if Jesus opposers combined
Keep wailing

You can't even stand to defend against a Muslim or atheist on NL but na JW be your problem

Get this very clear! Watchtower changed , added or removed words from your Bible that don't align with your doctrines. They did this so that the verses can give a completely different message from that of the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts! This is the essence of this thread I created. Have other translations changed the message that is supposed to be contained in the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts? If there are translations who have done this, they have also committed the same sin which is why we have Bible websites to make comparison. This is exactly what I did in this thread. Therefore, you have no single argument. Your points are useless. You think you can use the King James Version as a shield against the Sin your Cult has committed. You have failed. And you have shown that you are indeed in support of Manipulated Bible verses. Remember, you will be judged by Almighty God for doing this.

Fornicator Aemmyjah, every other translation has Hades or Hell alongside Torment. Your manipulated Bible has Grave along side torment. I have asked you brainless JWs if torment happens in the Grave, you all ran away showing how fraudulent you people are. Why did Watchtower put Grave alongside Torment?

Fornicator Aemmyjah, other translations have Spirits of righteous persons in their Bibles. Your Manipulated Bible instead says Spiritual lives. Mumu Aemmyjah, why did your Watchtower put Spiritual lives instead of Spirits? Because they don't want you to know that the righteous will be in Heaven abi? They don't want you to know that your Paradise Earth doctrine is fantasy! Mumu. Come and argue against this one.

Mumu Fornicator Aemmyjah, every other translation has the word Foreknew showing Almighty God has foreknowledge. Your manipulated Bible fixed a completely different phrase that doesn't exist in the manuscript. Why does your Watchtower have a problem with Almighty God having Foreknowledge? Because they have already lied to you that God doesn't have foreknowledge which proves that you JWS worship a different entity. A god that has limitations.

Aemmyjah:
Where did the GB say they are inspired?

Either you will change the meaning of INSPIRED or turn a blind eyes to this.

Let's start from TC Russell himself.

"The Watchtower is not the instrument of any man or set of men, nor is it published according to the whims of men. No man's opinion is expressed in The Watchtower. God feeds his own people, and surely God uses those who love and serve him according to his own will. Those who oppose The Watchtower are not capable of discerning the truth that God is giving to the children of his organization, and this is the very strongest proof that such opposers are not of God's organization." Watchtower 1931 Nov 1 p.327

Do you agree with this or not?

"Today, Jehovah guides his people by means of the Bible, his holy spirit, and the congregation. (Acts 9:31; 15:28; 2 Tim. 3:16, 17) The guidance that we receive from him is so clear that it is as if ‘our own ears hear a word behind us saying: “This is the way. Walk in it.”’ (Isa. 30:21) In effect, Jesus also conveys Jehovah’s voice to us as he directs the congregation through “the faithful and discreet slave.” (Matt. 24:45) We need to take this guidance and direction seriously, for our everlasting life depends on our obedience." Watchtower 2014 Aug 15 p.21

"The holy spirit is the active force of the living God, which he sends out through his Son, Christ Jesus, and which operates toward Jehovah's people, enlightening and directing his theocratic organization on the earth today as it did in the days of the apostles." Watchtower 1959 Apr 1 p.219

Let me stop here!

The lie sold to you which make you asked that question can be summarised this way:

By Definition
Directed by Holy Spirit = Inspired

The Bible
Directed by Holy Spirit = Inspired
Infallible (no errors)

Watchtower
Directed by Holy Spirit != Inspired
Fallible (contains errors)

Fornicator Aemmyjah, every other translation has the word punishment aligning with the Greek word for it. Your manipulated Bible went to fix Cutting off.. Even your Kingdom interlinear was not spared, they went to touch that one and put a different meaning of the Greek there. Why? Why do they have a problem with Jesus talking about Hell and Torment? Is It because they know they are going there and want you JWS to follow them? Lazarus and the Rich Man isn't the only place where Jesus talked about Hell and Torment. He mentioned it in other verses. He talked about weeping and gnashing of teeth. Does all of that happen in the Grave? Why did your Watchtower change the verse and put Cutting off? You cannot answer abi? Your Watchtower leaders have a very big problem with the words of God and Jesus. There is only one entity that has this problem. Satan. You will be judged for promoting manipulated Bible verses.

Emusan:


Either you will change the meaning of INSPIRED or turn a blind eyes to this.

Let's start from TC Russell himself.

"The Watchtower is not the instrument of any man or set of men, nor is it published according to the whims of men. No man's opinion is expressed in The Watchtower. God feeds his own people, and surely God uses those who love and serve him according to his own will. Those who oppose The Watchtower are not capable of discerning the truth that God is giving to the children of his organization, and this is the very strongest proof that such opposers are not of God's organization." Watchtower 1931 Nov 1 p.327

Do you agree with this or not?

"Today, Jehovah guides his people by means of the Bible, his holy spirit, and the congregation. (Acts 9:31; 15:28; 2 Tim. 3:16, 17) The guidance that we receive from him is so clear that it is as if ‘our own ears hear a word behind us saying: “This is the way. Walk in it.”’ (Isa. 30:21) In effect, Jesus also conveys Jehovah’s voice to us as he directs the congregation through “the faithful and discreet slave.” (Matt. 24:45) We need to take this guidance and direction seriously, for our everlasting life depends on our obedience." Watchtower 2014 Aug 15 p.21

"The holy spirit is the active force of the living God, which he sends out through his Son, Christ Jesus, and which operates toward Jehovah's people, enlightening and directing his theocratic organization on the earth today as it did in the days of the apostles." Watchtower 1959 Apr 1 p.219

Let me stop here!

The lie sold to you which make you asked that question can be summarised this way:

By Definition
Directed by Holy Spirit = Inspired

The Bible
Directed by Holy Spirit = Inspired
Infallible (no errors)

Watchtower
Directed by Holy Spirit != Inspired
Fallible (contains errors)

Where has the GB said any translation or the GB itself is inspired of Holy Spirit?
Were the GB of the First century inspired by God spirit or they were directed? Did they make mistakes and change of understanding of scriptural context?

Aemmyjah:
Where has the GB said any translation or the GB itself is inspired of Holy Spirit?

I just showed you above.

What does it mean to be INSPIRED?

Were the GB of the First century inspired by God spirit or they were directed?

There's nothing like GB of the first century.

The Apostles were INSPIRED and their writings contain no error.

Did they make mistakes and change of understanding of scriptural context?

No!

Are you saying Bible which is the work done under their INSPIRATION contains error?

Emusan:


I just showed you above.

What does it mean to be INSPIRED?



There's nothing like GB of the first century.

The Apostles were INSPIRED and their writings contain no error.



No!

Are you saying Bible which is the work done under their INSPIRATION contains error?

I did not talk about their writings - it's not all they wrote that is even in the scriptures
All scriptures is inspired

Lemme make you understand better since your understanding of English is low

Was Moses inspired of the scriptures he wrote?
Was Solomon, Luke, Joshua, Mordecai( who is most likely writer of Esther), were they all inspired or the scriptures they wrote?
Is the GB writing any part of the Bible today?
Did they claim to be inspired

Wait sef,
Is Cyrus and Darius also inspired by Holy Spirit

Aemmyjah:

Where has the GB said any translation or the GB itself is inspired of Holy Spirit?

The first African Bishop is Samuel Àjàyí Crowder and he translated the first ever Yorùbá Bible from the common KJV of his time!

Aemmyjah:
I did not talk about their writings - it's not all they wrote that is even in the scriptures
All scriptures is inspired

You're the one who made this statement and you're the same who made the below statement.

How does this make any sense to?

Lemme make you understand better since your understanding of English is low

When you supposed to enroll in Basic English class first.

Was Moses inspired of the scriptures he wrote?
Was Solomon, Luke, Joshua, Mordecai( who is most likely writer of Esther), were they all inspired or the scriptures they wrote?

You already agreed that "ALL SCRIPTURES IS (are) inspired"

So, what is the essence of this list?

Is the GB writing any part of the Bible today?

Yes! The GB rewrote many part of the Bible today which you have in your hand as NWT.

Did they claim to be inspired

I've provided different writings including that TC Russell claiming to be their publications has no HUMAN SOURCE and DIRECTED BY HOLY SPIRIT.

What does it mean to be DIRECTED by God's Holy Spirit?

What is the meaning of being INSPIRED!

You know you can't answer any of this questions reason why you're turning your blind eyes to them.

Wait sef,
Is Cyrus and Darius also inspired by Holy Spirit

Why the question?

MaxInDHouse:


The first African Bishop is Samuel Àjàyí Crowder and he translated the first ever Yorùbá Bible from the common KJV of his time!

Meaning...

FxMasterz:


Lol.

All of them lack integrity. Maxindhouse is just an example of all JWs. Always talking from both sides of the mouth.

On point

Emusan:


Meaning...

Ajayi will soon be drafted as honest hearted and sincere Christians

MightySparrow:



According to you. Your organization is the only one doing the will of God in an imperfect way, shey?

Looool

MightySparrow:



Rom.13.1 - Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.


Note the bolded, is that in your Bible?
Oh I forgot, NWT may have doctored to suit your interpretation.

. The day they agree with that account that higher powers are God's ministers is the day the madness and insanities peddling brains of MaxInDHouse about neutral to politics and war ends

Emusan:


The JaNosense doesn't have the gut to answer the simple question.

Are you a Christian?

At least you said your deluded brother is right, so tell me if you're a Christian.

When cornered they go asking questions or seek similarities between their BETTER and the FALSE or BAD

FxMasterz:


Gbam!

You said it.

The janosky hypocrite has been confirmed to be one indeed.

.

That's part of his werey peddlings about those they call false Christian or christendom

Aemmyjah:



What is your problem with Russell

Looool! Christendom and calling other Christian religious organization false Christians is one of the problem of your stupid apostate peddling brains

FxMasterz:


My dear, we used original Greek interlinear translations to judge your Bible and found it to be a fabrication of falsehood.

Again, do you justify your erroneous translations because KJV also has errors?

Did your organization not confess to be an organizer forcing its errors on people? What are you defending?

Did the KJV ever force itself on anyone. Is the use of KJV not by choice? Did they ever claim to be the most accurate Bible translation? Is that not what your satanic organization claims? Do they not force their errors on you? Don't you go about defending your errors? Did the KJV ever deny or defended themselves to be without errors?

Did Courz not use their favourite Kingdom Interlinear Translation to cross examine their NWT?

Aemmyjah:



😂
I laugh at you
That statement is about some previous misunderstanding on dates
Not on the Bible translation

Now my question
1. Did the KJV say that their own translation has any error as you said? If yes, show it. If no, you're an ignorant liar

2. If other Bible translations said that their translation came up cos the KJV which was the most popular has errors, is it proper for their own version to have the same errors or they should remove it?

3. If a translator notices that certain words or verses were not in reliable original manuscripts but are in nearly 100% of all the modern Bibles. Should he allow those verses to be in the translation, or he should put them in italics (like some translations too) or he should remove them?

4. Is it proper to use the KJV which other translation says has errors as well as these same translations to judge what is written in the NWT? If not, how do you decide which is accurate

5. Without using Google,What are the general 3 criteria in Bible translation

6. Mention the most accurate translation or the most nearly accurate translation




Olodo
You say we're falsehood. Mention the group that has the truth, you can't mention
You say our Bible is incorrect, mention the correct one, you can't mention

Envy will keep you

See the stupid apostate peddling brains deflecting.....

laugh at you
That statement is about some previous misunderstanding on dates. Not on the Bible translation

Misunderstanding on some dates the one GOD gave them, established facts

Olodo

Part of the content of your stupid apostate peddling brains

You say we're falsehood.

Evidence dey scattered in your religious publications of which you know.

Mention the group that has the truth,

Now your better performing performance group cannot hold again. Your stupid apostate peddling brains should carry that GROUP for head till you show where Jesus said a group has the truth inside Bible

you can't mention

.
Group think na the part of your stupid apostate peddling brains

You say our Bible is incorrect,

Even your GODS of men housed in USA says they are filled with manipulations and misconstruction

mention the correct one, you can't mention

The essence of the thread is to expose the manipulations of your NWT not to identify the correct one.

Envy will keep you

It is a trait synonymous with stupid apostate peddling brains. Envy starts with comparison and seeking better performing performance group others in your brains are either good or bad.

FxMasterz:


I asked you questions which you ignored. Answer my questions and stop playing hide and seek!

Your questions are useless because we already told you KJV is not our standard. We use several versions of scriptures together in Bible study to eliminate potential translation errors. We look up strong's concordance and interlinear bible to confirm correct translations. None of the various versions claim to be the most accurate!

Your Bible fails in all of the above and still goes ahead to force itself on its adherents. Answer my questions!

After Michael547 got tired of questions after his fear of failure were exposed Aemmyjah the stupid apostate peddling brains can no longer find comfort in the midst of his fellow Jehovah’s witnesses ran back to the thread to advance his questions abandoned earlier like MaxInDHouse whose bye bye is not really bye bye


MaxInDHouse will boast that it is only Jehovah's Witnesses they bombard with questions, the hundreds of questions they asked on this thread negates that empty boast

achorladey:


. The day they agree with that account that higher powers are God's ministers is the day the madness and insanities peddling brains of MaxInDHouse about neutral to politics and war ends

Tell me something. So to them higher power is what?

Aemmyjah:



Where did the GB say they are inspired?

What about Oye that said Nigeria would
Nigeria indeed became world power

We know your stupid apostate peddling brains have been trained to speak from both side of their mouth.

Where did the GB say they are inspired?

The evidences, therefore, are overwhelming that the anointed Christian remnant among Jehovah’s witnesses today comprise the collective channel of communication. An abundance of additional detailed facts is being published in the series of articles in The Watchtower on the history of Jehovah’s witnesses. There are about 17,000 of these anointed ones still left in the earth, with a governing body of them residing at Bethel in Brooklyn, New York. Along with them there are over 560,000 “other sheep” companion associates. This small “faithful and discreet slave” class of anointed ones, as they are designated, have a legal servant known as the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, organized in 1884, which they use to represent them.

34 An official mouthpiece for this “slave” class is the Watchtower magazine, now in its seventy-sixth year of publication. This magazine makes no claim of inspiration but is guided by the inspired principles and prophecies recorded in the sacred Bible due for progressive fulfillment today. By means of this singular channel of reliable spiritual guidance all sincere, honest persons who love righteousness are being directed toward the “perfect day” in the post-Armageddon new world. You are invited to advance along with the anointed remnant from one God-directed progressive spiritual position to another in fulfillment of the promise: “The path of the righteous is as the dawning light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.”—Prov. 4:18, AS.


In connection with literal water the word “channel” is used to refer to a waterway, a watercourse or an established stream of water. In a larger sense the word “channel” is used to describe a means of conduction, a course into which something may be directed, a route through which anything passes or progresses. In this latter, larger way the word “channel” is appropriately used with reference to Jehovah’s age-old method of communication with his servants.


The key for your stupid apostate peddling brains to sort is the word CHANNEL. The animal Balaam was riding despite being an animal was used as a channel to convey message to Balaam from God. The message was accurate and deadly had Balaam ignored. Your religious organization says they are the channel of God's communication to all mankind on earth and yet they still manipulate your brains to tell you they are not inspired and they kick you out when you go against them for not being inspired


cc: FxMasterz

FxMasterz:


That's how foolish your organization is to have used English versions as the basis for your translations.

Answer my questions or you want me to ask you again?

We use interlinear translations okay? We don't depend on any one version. Get that into you.

He is seriously looking for means to save their bartered face and head from manipulations and lies. They found this thread a difficult nut to crack as they met more than they can chew. They had to abandon it allow it to cool off, the seek re-entry to try colour and make the thread look better on their side

Aemmyjah:


Here is a list of some common English Bible translations:

1. King James Version (KJV) - 1611
2. American Standard Version (ASV) - 1901
3. Revised Standard Version (RSV) - 1952
4. New American Standard Bible (NASB) - 1963
5. New International Version (NIV) - 1978
6. New King James Version (NKJV) - 1982
7. English Standard Version (ESV) - 2001
8. Christian Standard Bible (CSB) - 2017 (formerly Holman Christian Standard Bible, HCSB)
9. New Revised Standard Version (NRSV) - 1989
10. The Message (MSG) - 1993 (a paraphrased version)
11. Amplified Bible (AMP) - 1965
12. New Living Translation (NLT) - 1996
13. Contemporary English Version (CEV) - 1995
14. The Clear Word Bible (TCWB) - 1994
15. God's Word (GW) - 1995
16. International Standard Version (ISV) - 1998
17. New American Bible (NAB) - 1970
18. Revised English Bible (REB) - 1989
19. The Voice (VOICE) - 2012
20. Young's Literal Translation (YLT) - 1862


Which one(s) is accurate
A. One of some. Then mention
B. Some of them. Then mention
C. All of them. Do their translators agree that the KJV which is one of the oldest and most popular is accused of having errors. Where are the errors and what has been done to the errors in their own translation


If the correct ones are not listed above. Kindly mention or remain ignorant

Stupid apostate peddling brains hanged

Aemmyjah:



Liar
A big fat lie
The OP was trying to shame us but your folly has been revealed like sunshine and you're talking nonsense. OP was Trying to discredit the NWT not says that it was most accurate
Have you ever seen anyone or did the OP tell you that these interlinear translations acknowledge that KJV has errors but they still did not do anything
Does that make any sense?
We have never ever stopped anyone from using other translations. We have a lot of them even in our library
Personally, in my ministry, I encourage my students to read from their own Bible and we have used and printed other translations over the years.

You're not translators but you want to judge another translation shey?



Cos you have seen that it your own own interlinear translations that have fault by failing to remove errors cos of fear of public uproar, you now say it is human to make errors. This is just your level of intelligence and it's shameful on a old man like you

Now mention one translation that say it's not error free

That's the problem of your stupid apostate peddling brains

Liar

Liar that your Bible translations is filled with numerous manipulations

A big fat lie

So says your stupid apostate peddling looking for ways to look even with the very same religious organization and translations you condemned.

The OP was trying to shame us but your folly has been revealed like sunshine and you're talking nonsense. OP was Trying to discredit the NWT not says that it was most accurate

The title of the thread says manipulations of Bible verses in the Jehovah’s Witnesses Bible and you are referring to the same Courz you asked MaxInDHouse to abandon yet you want to advance the discussion with another person as it concerns Courz

FxMasterz:


Hypocrite, are you also a dullard like janosky?

No one is claiming complete accuracy. The fault of your organization is them claiming accuracy and forcing their manipulated and deliberately falsified Bible on their followers!

He is trying to save the face of their religious organization from the exposure and make them look even with those they love to condemn. More like damage control

Courz:


Mumu. He has answered this question again and again. You don't rely solely on one Translation. This is why all the Bible verses I mentioned, I made sure to show as many translations as possible from Bible hub. I know that you know nothing about reading The Bible because Watchtower never teaches you how to. FxMasterz has said that other translations never made the claim of being accurate but your Cult has made that claim knowing fully well the manipulation they have done. Accuracy is left to the reader by comparing whatever translation you read with the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts. I created this thread solely to show everyone how far your Manipulated Bible has deviated from the meaning of words and messages in the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts. This is why we have websites you can use to make comparison to ensure you are reading the right message from the Bible directly from the interlinear.

The Grave sin your Watchtower Cult has committed is changing words in the Bible that don't align with your Doctrines in order to give a different message completely different from all that is in the Hebrew and Greek Manuscripts. I have shown Bible verses where Almighty God has shown his anger against this act. For you to continue to argue for Manipulation of Bible verses means you have made your choice to receive the anger from Almighty God on Judgement day.

He asked MaxInDHouse to abandon you only to pick up the discussion about you with someone else. Imagine


All in the name to save their face and head from lies and manipulations packed into it as exposed here.

Courz:


Why are you focusing on only the King James Version? In all the Verses I mentioned in this thread, did you see only king James Version? Your points are useless! I quoted as many translations as possible and you saw how a lot of them aligned with the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts. You are trying to deviate from the grave sin your Watchtower has done but it will never work! You have failed!

Get this very clear! Watchtower changed , added or removed words from your Bible that don't align with your doctrines. They did this so that the verses can give a completely different message from that of the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts! This is the essence of this thread I created. Have other translations changed the message that is supposed to be contained in the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts? If there are translations that have done this, they have also committed the same sin which is why we have Bible websites to make comparison. If you can say other translations are doing the same therefore you are free to do it too, then they and your Cult are part of False Religion changing verses to push a different message from the Bible, telling you that you have no single argument. Your points are useless. You think you can use the King James Version as a shield against the Sin your Cult has committed. You have failed. And you have shown that you are indeed in support of Manipulated Bible verses. Remember, you will be judged by Almighty God for doing this.

Why he is not talk about that Kingdom Interlinear Translation . That same KIT they use.