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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 10:29am On May 24 |
daveP:I'll prefer a good Watkins over a good Haaland 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 10:31am On May 24 |
Jodera: ESR is a very good player, it is just the injury concern I have against him and nothing else . That was why I referred him to white Diaby cos anytime Diaby played we always see the quality; it is just that he didn't play often enough. I guess Mostob is a bit harsh in his assessment of ESR sha |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 10:43am On May 24 |
BlueRayDick:Yeah, I really understand your view on ESR and it's really valid. Na Mos.tob own dey surprise me cos he was here when ESR burst into limelight so at least he should have seen first hand the things ESR did for us. Saying without injuries Viera get more skillset than ESR in this team is really surprising. And like you said he was really harsh on ESR |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 10:54am On May 24 |
daveP:Iwobi doesn't press much to Sanchez arrived and started doing the headless chicken running. Later, we saw Iwobi doing the same thing. Sometimes, pressing is not about the players alone but the structure and tactic the coach employed. Rashford will learn if he later makes it to Arsenal. Moreso, he is 26 currently. 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 10:55am On May 24 |
daveP:Nah...the question should be, who can offer us more than what Haaland offers City? 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 11:01am On May 24 |
Jodera: I knew all these before I said what I said. Don't make it seems I'm rating one above the other or that I dislike ESR. But I tell you if it comes to who Arteta wants to retain currently between both, he will choose Vieira. I really don't want to compare both because it will seem I'm undermining ESR. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 11:09am On May 24 |
Jodera:And how is that harsh? In another system, ESR will get the nod. It is simple. The current system doesn't suit him. I was clear enough. Na you wan turn this to Vieira vs ESR. ESR is a final third specialist who will get you goals. He is not someone that would drop deep and help with buildup. His positioning and late runs into the box is quote alright but in situations where we need numbers in midfield to beat the press, he is limited. Where do you think he should play then? |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 11:17am On May 24 |
mostob: Sanchez do headless chicken run bawo ? ![]() Sanchez was like our best player and his runs were note headless chicken in any way. He is one guy that that gave us end product bro. U disrespect Sanchez's period with us with this phrase o |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 11:20am On May 24 |
BlueRayDick:The context was pressing. PRESSING. The way he runs after the ball. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 11:31am On May 24 |
mostob:You invariably compared them when you said Viera has more skillset to this team than ESR and that ESR is limited in wing and Midfield. The only reason why Arteta would choose Viera over ESR is that he bought the former just recently with good sum compared to ESR who's homegrown and will bring profit according to ffp regardless of the price. And if that injury concern is put into consideration, then it's no brainer if that money would be spent on someone better than ESR especially if it's without injuries. Pound for pound, Skillset for Skillset, ESR Is better than Viera in this our system. Maybe except for outside the box shot |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 11:42am On May 24 |
mostob:Lol.... Omorr, we are talking about ESR here and you're saying this thing? Someone that's good at buildups, one touch and move play. Someone that's good at pressing (at least our match against Luton where he was even half fit yet won Motm should give you a pointer). He's good at beating the press is whom you're saying all these bolded? Anyways, I still dey wait for this setup to suit Viera sha. God keep us Alive to see it 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by germaphobe(m): 11:45am On May 24 |
mostob:ESR drops when he needs to bro. You are making the comparison but trying to convince yourself that you're not. ESR has pace, and he he's someone that's always ready to help this team however way he can. I think he's more suited to play that odegaard role more than Viera but what do I know... He has the physicality and sharpness that Viera lacks. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by germaphobe(m): 11:47am On May 24 |
Jodera:I'm beginning to wonder if he watch ESR from his early days down to even last Sunday match. How can he say ESR doesn't drop and help in build up. Well every man get his opinion shaa |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 11:56am On May 24 |
germaphobe:Gbammm!!That physicality. I remember how Southampton bullied him when we dropped points two seasons ago in the run in when he replaced injured Xhaka. Sporting did same thing too when he replaced Odegaard (2nd leg) And that was a fit Viera. My guy just lost for pitch. Those two matches decided our season in both competition. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 12:02pm On May 24 |
germaphobe:That's why I said he must have probably forgotten who ESR was. Before Odegaard came, ESR manned our Midfield (Am) well that we started winning matches consistently till we bought Odegaard. Prior to his emergence, we were winning match once a month. That's whom he said is limited Midfield. Let him watch ESR assist to Saka against West Brom(5-0) and let him see where ESR started the buildup to the goal from In terms of wing play. ESR is even more pacy and explosive than Saka. I guess he's forgotten that too. Or is it pressing?. The Luton match, the goal Odegaard scored is a pure highlight. He won Motm too These are just highlights of his skillets that led to goals I even remembered off my head |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 12:30pm On May 24 |
Spy360:If his problem is now environment and he just changes and begins to do all required of him at Emirates, e no go funny o πππ |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 12:31pm On May 24 |
Jodera: Only ish now is they're playing UCL too. So to lure him away from Ebening go hard. But deep down he supposed know too sha. Well.. let him eat reward there small. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 12:33pm On May 24 |
daveP:Lol... Better "Watkins" full everywhere . Watkins himself go even cost sef and I doubt Villa would wanna sell. Make we just go for Gyokeres or better striker abeg |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 12:34pm On May 24 |
mostob: That's true. Till now it's still a big Achilles for iwobi but he makes up for it other ways. But no manager would love to see him strolling when he should be covering. The structure matters. Just that Rashford own is that the structure is not bad at Niagara Falls stadium but he and Hoila no get connection too. Both have some funny positioning this last season. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 12:37pm On May 24 |
mostob:Potentially, i believe such players exist. As you said-structure. Rem i keep saying our structure is perfect for a sensible and terrific 9 to fit into. Meaning it will be more a leap of faith than what we see. But the candidates are available already. I pray we choose well. Bully in air and on ground and for 90 and a good presser when pressing and also superb on counter(pace and acceleration) |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by afrodoc2: 12:39pm On May 24 |
The ESR disrespect is solid. God no go shame us o. Health is wealth. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 12:39pm On May 24 |
Jodera:they go slap 100m on that guy as it stands. Or at least 70m. Make he enjoy one season more with villa sha. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 12:41pm On May 24 |
What aspect of Ozil's game do you need Odegaard to adopt next season? And what part of Odegaard's game did you feel Ozil should have used during his spell with usm
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by germaphobe(m): 12:44pm On May 24 |
daveP:Arsenal will not look in his direction after this season, AGE factor 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 12:44pm On May 24 |
Jodera:You're still judging ESR based on his exploits three seasons ago, that's what you're still holding on to. When both were available, Vieira usually gets the nod ahead of ESR, that should tell you something. ESR has regressed badly which is what you are not considering here. His incessant injuries didn't help matter too. The few times he was subbed on this season, he disappointed. Three years ago when he was still hot, this argument wouldn't happen. But since last season that both have been together in that team, with what they have both shown, Vieira will always get the nod. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by germaphobe(m): 12:46pm On May 24 |
daveP:I love Ozil, but odegaard is gradually getting there abi he's there already. Ozil can't run and press like Odegaard but he's developing that crazy vision of Ozil. 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 12:47pm On May 24 |
daveP:I'll pick Odegaard. When it comes to picking passes, Ode has been trying o but Ozil na boss. It is just that Ode offers more. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 12:48pm On May 24 |
germaphobe:That one dey too sha but he's in his prime sha |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by germaphobe(m): 12:48pm On May 24 |
mostob:I gently disagree with you on that bro, |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 12:50pm On May 24 |
germaphobe:What Vieira lacks in physicality, he makes it up with technicality. I think you're using that season to judge ESR. That is why you are not getting the point. ESR ain't fast bro... we saw that against Villa. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by germaphobe(m): 12:51pm On May 24 |
daveP:He's 29 and Arsenal focus on youth and age, so I don't think anyone from the team will still consider his signing when he hits 30 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by germaphobe(m): 12:53pm On May 24 |
mostob:ESR have that technical ability too, both weren't rushed this season so their injury can be managed and contained. And bruh ESR has pace, I followed that boy from his Hale end days, he has pacemore than Saka sef. |
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