daveP:
Im sure in the speculation room with Josh, Edu and co, one question will be

Whom among these guys can compete in numbers with Haaland if in our XI?

That question will be helpful to an extent. Having a Watkins and an Erling.....

I'll prefer a good Watkins over a good Haaland

Jodera:


I believe you've forgotten who ESR really is.

Naaahh, you've forgotten. Nothing wey you wan tell me

Lemme remind you that ESR initially played as our number 10(Am) in the 2020/21 season. He started his first EPL match under Arteta in the 3-1 over Chelsea on boxing Day. We were 16th that period as we were playing one of the most boring football. ESR came and we started winning games back to back because we finally got our Am. We not only beat Chelsea 3-1, we whitewashed westbrom 5-0 the very next match. First time we'll be scoring 3+ goals consecutively and playing fluid football and winning matches b2b in MONTHS.
ESR ensured we were on an upward move till Odegaard was loaned at the end of that Loan window where we moved from 16th to 8th position by season's end. His telepathy and Understanding with Saka was perfect. In fact he was the first that brought this "understanding" with Saka before anything like Odegaard-Saka telepathy was even known in arsenal. There was pictures flying around then (attached below)

I remember having argument with Spy when he said the reason we were playing boring football was because of lack of Am that's why we're playing that stupid 343 and that if we get an Am everything go set. I disagreed saying it was because Arteta wasn't good enough reason why we were playing this nonsense. ESR practically and literally made arsenal playing the 4231 we're enjoying today which obviously improved to 433. I later gave kudos to Spy for getting it right

The very next season, because of Martinelli injury, he stood in for him and played very well that we barely missed Martinelli. He was unarguably our top scorer (even without penalties). The only reason Saka topped him was because Martinelli became fit by early December which made him go back to the bench. And even at that with penalties included, Saka just surpassed him with 1goal (11 to 10).


There's a reason he's called Croydon De bruyne by arsenal fans and it's not just because they're almost same complexion.

I never see wetin Viera don do for this arsenal and even his skillset I never too see am (I believe he'll gel in a more counter attacking team sef) . He can't even play wing effectively, something ESR did excellently. And even that Midfield, most times he's shown he's limited
But make I dey watch.


But omorr, no talk this thing about ESR again biko. Ejoorr🙏🙏🙏🙏.

He's worth the hype.

Na that injury wey Blueray even show me make me calm down for this ESR matter

ESR is a very good player, it is just the injury concern I have against him and nothing else . That was why I referred him to white Diaby cos anytime Diaby played we always see the quality; it is just that he didn't play often enough.

I guess Mostob is a bit harsh in his assessment of ESR sha

BlueRayDick:


ESR is a very good player, it is just the injury concern I have against him and nothing else . That was why I referred him to white Diaby cos anytime Diaby played we always see the quality; it is just that he didn't play often enough.

I guess Mostob is a bit harsh in his assessment of ESR sha

Yeah, I really understand your view on ESR and it's really valid.

Na Mos.tob own dey surprise me cos he was here when ESR burst into limelight so at least he should have seen first hand the things ESR did for us.

Saying without injuries Viera get more skillset than ESR in this team is really surprising. And like you said he was really harsh on ESR

daveP:
See the way Arteta face changes when his wingers don't tackle or press? I doubt Rashford will want to move from frying pan to fire. Guy doesn't press. If he now comes to us and begins to do all of that, the backlash from man u will even be worse. Plus his age. They should just get someone else. But sincerely, if na him dey push for the move, na him sabi

That guy is a double GA winger but is wallowing away in despondency

Iwobi doesn't press much to Sanchez arrived and started doing the headless chicken running. Later, we saw Iwobi doing the same thing.

Sometimes, pressing is not about the players alone but the structure and tactic the coach employed. Rashford will learn if he later makes it to Arsenal.

Moreso, he is 26 currently.

daveP:
Im sure in the speculation room with Josh, Edu and co, one question will be

Whom among these guys can compete in numbers with Haaland if in our XI?

That question will be helpful to an extent. Having a Watkins and an Erling.....

Nah...the question should be, who can offer us more than what Haaland offers City?

Jodera:


I believe you've forgotten who ESR really is.

Naaahh, you've forgotten. Nothing wey you wan tell me

Lemme remind you that ESR initially played as our number 10(Am) in the 2020/21 season. He started his first EPL match under Arteta in the 3-1 over Chelsea on boxing Day. We were 16th that period as we were playing one of the most boring football. ESR came and we started winning games back to back because we finally got our Am. We not only beat Chelsea 3-1, we whitewashed westbrom 5-0 the very next match. First time we'll be scoring 3+ goals consecutively and playing fluid football and winning matches b2b in MONTHS.
ESR ensured we were on an upward move till Odegaard was loaned at the end of that Loan window where we moved from 16th to 8th position by season's end. His telepathy and Understanding with Saka was perfect. In fact he was the first that brought this "understanding" with Saka before anything like Odegaard-Saka telepathy was even known in arsenal. There was pictures flying around then (attached below)

I remember having argument with Spy when he said the reason we were playing boring football was because of lack of Am that's why we're playing that stupid 343 and that if we get an Am everything go set. I disagreed saying it was because Arteta wasn't good enough reason why we were playing this nonsense. ESR practically and literally made arsenal playing the 4231 we're enjoying today which obviously improved to 433. I later gave kudos to Spy for getting it right

The very next season, because of Martinelli injury, he stood in for him and played very well that we barely missed Martinelli. He was unarguably our top scorer (even without penalties). The only reason Saka topped him was because Martinelli became fit by early December which made him go back to the bench. And even at that with penalties included, Saka just surpassed him with 1goal (11 to 10).


There's a reason he's called Croydon De bruyne by arsenal fans and it's not just because they're almost same complexion.

I never see wetin Viera don do for this arsenal and even his skillset I never too see am (I believe he'll gel in a more counter attacking team sef) . He can't even play wing effectively, something ESR did excellently. And even that Midfield, most times he's shown he's limited
But make I dey watch.


But omorr, no talk this thing about ESR again biko. Ejoor

He's worth the hype.

Na that injury wey Blueray even show me make me calm down for this ESR matter

I knew all these before I said what I said. Don't make it seems I'm rating one above the other or that I dislike ESR. But I tell you if it comes to who Arteta wants to retain currently between both, he will choose Vieira.

I really don't want to compare both because it will seem I'm undermining ESR.

Jodera:

Yeah, I really understand your view on ESR and it's really valid.

Na Mos.tob own dey surprise me cos he was here when ESR burst into limelight so at least he should have seen first hand the things ESR did for us.

Saying without injuries Viera get more skillset than ESR in this team is really surprising. And like you said he was really harsh on ESR

And how is that harsh? In another system, ESR will get the nod. It is simple. The current system doesn't suit him. I was clear enough. Na you wan turn this to Vieira vs ESR.

ESR is a final third specialist who will get you goals. He is not someone that would drop deep and help with buildup. His positioning and late runs into the box is quote alright but in situations where we need numbers in midfield to beat the press, he is limited. Where do you think he should play then?

mostob:
Iwobi doesn't press much to Sanchez arrived and started doing the headless chicken running. Later, we saw Iwobi doing the same thing.

Sometimes, pressing is not about the players alone but the structure and tactic the coach employed. Rashford will learn if he later makes it to Arsenal.

Moreso, he is 26 currently.

Sanchez do headless chicken run bawo ?

Sanchez was like our best player and his runs were note headless chicken in any way. He is one guy that that gave us end product bro. U disrespect Sanchez's period with us with this phrase o

BlueRayDick:


Sanchez do headless chicken run bawo ?

Sanchez was like our best player and his runs were note headless chicken in any way. He is one guy that that gave us end product bro. U disrespect Sanchez's period with us with this phrase o

The context was pressing. PRESSING.
The way he runs after the ball.

mostob:


I knew all these before I said what I said. Don't make it seems I'm rating one above the other or that I dislike ESR. But I tell you if it comes to who Arteta wants to retain currently between both, he will choose Vieira.

I really don't want to compare both because it will seem I'm undermining ESR.

You invariably compared them when you said Viera has more skillset to this team than ESR and that ESR is limited in wing and Midfield.

The only reason why Arteta would choose Viera over ESR is that he bought the former just recently with good sum compared to ESR who's homegrown and will bring profit according to ffp regardless of the price. And if that injury concern is put into consideration, then it's no brainer if that money would be spent on someone better than ESR especially if it's without injuries.

Pound for pound, Skillset for Skillset, ESR Is better than Viera in this our system. Maybe except for outside the box shot

mostob:
And how is that harsh? In another system, ESR will get the nod. It is simple. The current system doesn't suit him. I was clear enough. Na you wan turn this to Vieira vs ESR.

ESR is a final third specialist who will get you goals. He is not someone that would drop deep and help with buildup. His positioning and late runs into the box is quote alright but in situations where we need numbers in midfield to beat the press, he is limited. Where do you think he should play then?

Lol....
Omorr, we are talking about ESR here and you're saying this thing?

Someone that's good at buildups, one touch and move play. Someone that's good at pressing (at least our match against Luton where he was even half fit yet won Motm should give you a pointer). He's good at beating the press is whom you're saying all these bolded?


Anyways, I still dey wait for this setup to suit Viera sha. God keep us Alive to see it

mostob:
And how is that harsh? In another system, ESR will get the nod. It is simple. The current system doesn't suit him. I was clear enough. Na you wan turn this to Vieira vs ESR.

ESR is a final third specialist who will get you goals. He is not someone that would drop deep and help with buildup. His positioning and late runs into the box is quote alright but in situations where we need numbers in midfield to beat the press, he is limited. Where do you think he should play then?

ESR drops when he needs to bro. You are making the comparison but trying to convince yourself that you're not. ESR has pace, and he he's someone that's always ready to help this team however way he can.
I think he's more suited to play that odegaard role more than Viera but what do I know... He has the physicality and sharpness that Viera lacks.

Jodera:

Lol....
Omorr, we are talking about ESR here and you're saying this thing?

Someone that's good at buildups, one touch and move play. Someone that's good at pressing (at least our match against Luton where he was even half fit yet won Motm should give you a pointer). He's good at beating the press is whom you're saying all these bolded?


Anyways, I still dey wait for this setup to suit Viera sha. God keep us Alive to see it

I'm beginning to wonder if he watch ESR from his early days down to even last Sunday match. How can he say ESR doesn't drop and help in build up. Well every man get his opinion shaa

germaphobe:

ESR drops when he needs to bro. You are making the comparison but trying to convince yourself that you're not. ESR has pace, and he he's someone that's always ready to help this team however way he can.
I think he's more suited to play that odegaard role more than Viera but what do I know... He has the physicality and sharpness that Viera lacks.

Gbammm!!That physicality.

I remember how Southampton bullied him when we dropped points two seasons ago in the run in when he replaced injured Xhaka.
Sporting did same thing too when he replaced Odegaard (2nd leg)


And that was a fit Viera. My guy just lost for pitch. Those two matches decided our season in both competition.

germaphobe:

I'm beginning to wonder if he watch ESR from his early days down to even last Sunday match. How can he say ESR doesn't drop and help in build up. Well every man get his opinion shaa

That's why I said he must have probably forgotten who ESR was.

Before Odegaard came, ESR manned our Midfield (Am) well that we started winning matches consistently till we bought Odegaard. Prior to his emergence, we were winning match once a month. That's whom he said is limited Midfield.
Let him watch ESR assist to Saka against West Brom(5-0) and let him see where ESR started the buildup to the goal from

In terms of wing play. ESR is even more pacy and explosive than Saka. I guess he's forgotten that too.

Or is it pressing?. The Luton match, the goal Odegaard scored is a pure highlight. He won Motm too

These are just highlights of his skillets that led to goals I even remembered off my head

Spy360:

Spot on.

In terms of pressing, Arteta will have his work cut out.

If his problem is now environment and he just changes and begins to do all required of him at Emirates, e no go funny o 😂😂😂

Jodera:

I'll prefer a good Watkins over a good Haaland

Only ish now is they're playing UCL too. So to lure him away from Ebening go hard. But deep down he supposed know too sha. Well.. let him eat reward there small.

daveP:


Only ish now is they're playing UCL too. So to lure him away from Ebening go hard. But deep down he supposed know too sha. Well.. let him eat reward there small.

Lol...
Better "Watkins" full everywhere .

Watkins himself go even cost sef and I doubt Villa would wanna sell.

Make we just go for Gyokeres or better striker abeg

mostob:
Iwobi doesn't press much to Sanchez arrived and started doing the headless chicken running. Later, we saw Iwobi doing the same thing.

Sometimes, pressing is not about the players alone but the structure and tactic the coach employed. Rashford will learn if he later makes it to Arsenal.

Moreso, he is 26 currently.

That's true. Till now it's still a big Achilles for iwobi but he makes up for it other ways. But no manager would love to see him strolling when he should be covering. The structure matters. Just that Rashford own is that the structure is not bad at Niagara Falls stadium but he and Hoila no get connection too. Both have some funny positioning this last season.

mostob:
Nah...the question should be, who can offer us more than what Haaland offers City?

Potentially, i believe such players exist. As you said-structure.

Rem i keep saying our structure is perfect for a sensible and terrific 9 to fit into. Meaning it will be more a leap of faith than what we see. But the candidates are available already. I pray we choose well. Bully in air and on ground and for 90 and a good presser when pressing and also superb on counter(pace and acceleration)

The ESR disrespect is solid. God no go shame us o. Health is wealth.

Jodera:

Lol...
Better "Watkins" full everywhere .

Watkins himself go even cost sef and I doubt Villa would wanna sell.

Make we just go for Gyokeres or better striker abeg

they go slap 100m on that guy as it stands. Or at least 70m. Make he enjoy one season more with villa sha.

What aspect of Ozil's game do you need Odegaard to adopt next season?

And what part of Odegaard's game did you feel Ozil should have used during his spell with usm

daveP:
they go slap 100m on that guy as it stands. Or at least 70m. Make he enjoy one season more with villa sha.

Arsenal will not look in his direction after this season, AGE factor

Jodera:

Lol....
Omorr, we are talking about ESR here and you're saying this thing?

Someone that's good at buildups, one touch and move play. Someone that's good at pressing (at least our match against Luton where he was even half fit yet won Motm should give you a pointer). He's good at beating the press is whom you're saying all these bolded?


Anyways, I still dey wait for this setup to suit Viera sha. God keep us Alive to see it

You're still judging ESR based on his exploits three seasons ago, that's what you're still holding on to. When both were available, Vieira usually gets the nod ahead of ESR, that should tell you something.

ESR has regressed badly which is what you are not considering here. His incessant injuries didn't help matter too. The few times he was subbed on this season, he disappointed. Three years ago when he was still hot, this argument wouldn't happen. But since last season that both have been together in that team, with what they have both shown, Vieira will always get the nod.

daveP:
What aspect of Ozil's game do you need Odegaard to adopt next season?

And what part of Odegaard's game did you feel Ozil should have used during his spell with usm

I love Ozil, but odegaard is gradually getting there abi he's there already. Ozil can't run and press like Odegaard but he's developing that crazy vision of Ozil.

daveP:
What aspect of Ozil's game do you need Odegaard to adopt next season?

And what part of Odegaard's game did you feel Ozil should have used during his spell with usm

I'll pick Odegaard.

When it comes to picking passes, Ode has been trying o but Ozil na boss. It is just that Ode offers more.

germaphobe:

Arsenal will not look in his direction after this season, AGE factor

That one dey too sha but he's in his prime sha

mostob:
You're still judging ESR based on his exploits three seasons ago, that's what you're still holding on to. When both were available, Vieira usually gets the nod ahead of ESR, that should tell you something.

ESR has regressed badly which is what you are not considering here. His incessant injuries didn't help matter too. The few times he was subbed on this season, he disappointed. Three years ago when he was still hot, this argument wouldn't happen. But since last season that both have been together in that team, with what they have both shown, Vieira will always get the nod.

I gently disagree with you on that bro,

germaphobe:

ESR drops when he needs to bro. You are making the comparison but trying to convince yourself that you're not. ESR has pace, and he he's someone that's always ready to help this team however way he can.
I think he's more suited to play that odegaard role more than Viera but what do I know... He has the physicality and sharpness that Viera lacks.

What Vieira lacks in physicality, he makes it up with technicality. I think you're using that season to judge ESR. That is why you are not getting the point.

ESR ain't fast bro... we saw that against Villa.

daveP:
That one dey too sha but he's in his prime sha

He's 29 and Arsenal focus on youth and age, so I don't think anyone from the team will still consider his signing when he hits 30

mostob:
What Vieira lacks in physicality, he makes it up with technicality. I think you're using that season to judge ESR. That is why you are not getting the point.

ESR ain't fast bro... we saw that against Villa.

ESR have that technical ability too, both weren't rushed this season so their injury can be managed and contained. And bruh ESR has pace, I followed that boy from his Hale end days, he has pacemore than Saka sef.