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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:04pm On May 28 |
Amigoss: https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2013/10/17/fashola-commissions-alausa-power-plant/?amp=1 Fashola actually commissioned the project in October 2013 as promised and the project is still in existence till date . The IPP powers the Alausa secretariat https://www.elektronenergy.com/projects/
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 6:17pm On May 28 |
BlueRayDick: I lived in Lagos during the regime of Tinubu and Fashola and I agree that Tinubu was the father of modern Lagos. It was the template he laid that Fashola and others after him followed 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 6:19pm On May 28 |
izzou: WHich is true, even Fashola said it publicly |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 6:20pm On May 28 |
BlueRayDick: Fashola cannot aspire to be president for the next 16yrs at least. The best he can be will be VP |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 6:22pm On May 28 |
GloriousGbola: Its easy to be starboy when someone is handling the politicking. Shebi na him Wike and Fubara don start now. All the project Yar Adua had in mind when militancy came, didnt he shelve it Fashola knows who gave him the platform. He will normally not even win Surulere LGA chairman on his own |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 6:34pm On May 28 |
GloriousGbola: So who blocked Fashola from passing any bill? Who sabotaged his initiatives? What were his initiatives? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:37pm On May 28 |
raumdeuter: lol. As expected . What we are discussing is the best governor as regards what was done in their respective tenures and I can boldly say Fashola outperformed Tinubu is all areas of governance . All those talk about father of modern Lagos is mere political talks . Those are what politicians tell themselves in their parties. We ordinary citizens rate governors based on what they did while in power . |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:38pm On May 28 |
raumdeuter: He should avoid it at all cost if knows what’s good for him. He should learn from Osinbajo |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 6:39pm On May 28 |
raumdeuter: Na dem sabi. Dem fit use Lord Lugard template sef. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 6:41pm On May 28 |
Amigoss: These are dogs not elephants |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 6:47pm On May 28 |
iamoyindamola: Revenue is not profit They have always been unprofitable and always been destined to be. Subsequent governors had to drop the costly millstone around their neck. Only a mumu will think tourism is a competitive advantage of the Niger Delta or Nigeria in general. Porters 5 forces will be crying at Dukes decisions 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 6:49pm On May 28 |
izzou: Fashola performed really well but the guy was below par in terms of setting up the foundation and getting the relevant people on his side to support his plans. Most of what he achieved was done while stepping on people’s toes all over the place, and would not have been possible without Tinubu’s intervention and support at key points. Whose master plan it was I am not sure. His lack of diplomacy and politicking ability is partly responsible for his failure as a minister. In a military regime he would have been a fantastic minister. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 6:52pm On May 28 |
BlueRayDick: What Tinubu did was more than what Fashola did Fashola did not fight any FG unlike what Tinubu did. It was the grund work of Tinubu that made Fasholas regime relatively smooth All the with held funds that was starved Tinubus administration, was released later to benefit mostly Fasholas administration How will Fashola have fared if he had to go through the rigours Its like an immigrant child who was riding bus and grew up in an apartment claiming he did better than his parents who had to trek through Sahara desert and sleep in refugee camp for years before finding their feet 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 6:52pm On May 28 |
afrodoc2: Help me throw more light on this. Because i know he started having issues with Tinubu in his 2nd term |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 6:53pm On May 28 |
BlueRayDick: Why should he avoid it? His power ministry maybe it would have been different if he had a Tinubu who lay down the blueprint and was collecting the political bullets while he can focus on his work as administrator |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amigoss: 6:54pm On May 28 |
BlueRayDick: Ohh ok,I read it somewhere under ambode light up Lagos initiative,thought he never commissioned it |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amigoss: 6:55pm On May 28 |
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 6:55pm On May 28 |
There have been 2 governors after Fashola and none of them is telling us that Fashola did this and that for them, Na Tinubu dem still dey credit |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 7:00pm On May 28 |
izzou: Yes they started having issues in the 2nd term, but they often ironed out their problems, which is why they are still able to work together now. His first 4-6 years were littered with countless meetings at Tinubu’s house and at Baba Eto’s house to settle discord between him and the latest person/group he had offended in his projects. He was able to be singleminded in his projects because the politicking, diplomacy, and grassroots stuff were taken care of by others, in a state which was essentially a one-party dictatorship. 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:17pm On May 28 |
raumdeuter: We are not going to be rehashing the “held Lagos funds “ story all over again. FG held the LG funds of all states that created additional LGA’s , not just Lagos alone . The affected states were Lagos, Ebonyi, Katsina, Nasarawa and Niger states. If Lagos didn’t have money , they would’ve backed down like the other states. The held funds are LG funds and not state funds . Lagos got its allocation from FAAC all through the period . Tinubu didn’t do anything more than Fashola , maybe he fought FG more than Fashola sha. We are talking about real development that people can feel not some “ I pave way for you “ , “ I walk so you can fly “ political talks 5 Likes 1 Share
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 7:21pm On May 28 |
"I pave way for you" Tinubu na John the Baptist 6 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:24pm On May 28 |
raumdeuter: Did anybody lay any blueprint for Tunji-Ojo that is performing as a minister in interior ministry today ? The thing is the ministries Fashola got under Buhari were ministries he was wrong fit for . If Fashola had gotten ministry of justice and had performed well , nobody will be talking about any blueprint talk. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 7:24pm On May 28 |
BlueRayDick: Did FG hold Lagos funds or No? Lagos didnt have money, Tinubu created new revenue pathways through taxation that made governance continue despite the FG holding money Tinubu did the heavy lifting already for people like Fashola to thrive. Its easy to build when there is an architectural plan to follow and when someone has fought all the Legal battles with Land commission When dem hand am Power ministry without any fore runner to provide masterplan or fight political battles, how did it go |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:25pm On May 28 |
izzou: Tinubu the Forerunner , set awon John onitebomi 😂 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 7:28pm On May 28 |
BlueRayDick: All these low impact ministry like interior. He for try works, Finance, Power or ministry wey public focus go always dey ontop, That performance metric is delivering passports in a few weeks and announcing public holidays abi 90% of Nigerians will never interface with the works of Tunji Ojo as they dont have nor need passports, unlike in Power, Works or finance ministry What else, Look calendar and declare October 1 as Public holiday? If its not by force to have 36ministers should we have a minister dedicated to telling us that Dec 25 is Christmas? What makes Tunji Ojo a fit for interior ministry, did he study Interior design in school? Fashola you claimed excel in Lagos state, was it in ministry of Justice? What made Fashola successful in a whole state like Lagos but not in ministry of Power? Probably no Tinubu template |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 7:32pm On May 28 |
PDPGuy: Favorite President - Too early to say but Looking like Bola Ahmed Tinubu Favorite governor - Undisputed Bola Ahmed Tinubu Worst Governor - Adebayo Alao Akala 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:40pm On May 28 |
raumdeuter: I didn’t claim Fashola excelled in Lagos , Fashola actually did excel and both local and international observers gave him his due credit . Na only Tinubu fanatics Dey claim Tinubu outperformed Fashola as per John the Baptist of Lagos 😂 If u carry microphone enter street interview non-APC-member adults on whose administration they felt government impact most in Lagos , majority will tell u it is Fashola . 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 7:44pm On May 28 |
BlueRayDick: If Fashola was good enough to be best governor in the whole of Nigeria for the past 25yrs, How come ministry of Power he wasnt good enough? You were already giving excuses for Fashola in Power the position where he didnt have Tinubu clear road for him Both are good, But Tinubu was the best governor in the past 25yrs |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 7:45pm On May 28 |
BlueRayDick: You havent told us the metric to make Tunji Ojo perform well? He checked calendar and reminded us not to forget Xmas day? Or what exactly? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 7:49pm On May 28 |
BlueRayDick: Non of these 2 people are card carrying APC emembers In a statement, Chimaroke Nnamani, a PDP senator, gives a candid assessment of Tinubu era and passed the verdict: Ahmed Bola Tinubu is the MOST successful Governor in modern Nigeria bar none. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqjLDuNQhE0
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:54pm On May 28 |
raumdeuter: Two well known political sycophants in the last general elections 😂 Nnamani that was aiming for senate presidency seat by supporting Tinubu before his constituency people shock am ….lmao When next u are in Lagos carry mic 🎤 enter street and hear people of Lagos’ opinion on the matter not some political jobbers twerking for Tinubu 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 7:54pm On May 28 |
You'd think the person he's rubbishing Fashola for isn't failing as president...maybe he's still fighting FG 9 Likes 2 Shares |
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