Wednesday's election is one for the history books.

It feels like a moment to remember, and you, the South African voters, will decide exactly how seminal it will be in the next few hours.

The 2024 election is a first in many ways, despite being the seventh democratic election in a year which marks 30 years since the fall of apartheid and the rise of a constitutional democracy.

Crucially, it is the first time the governing ANC may lose its outright majority, not because the polling says so, but because the ANC's electoral dominance has been in steady decline since 2009, dropping to a low of 57.5% in 2019 and slipping below 50% for the first time in the 2021 municipal elections.

Unemployment, a limping economy, corruption, incompetence, crumbling infrastructure, and power and water cuts have all contributed to the decline in confidence in the ANC.

It is also the first election in which independent candidates will contest for a seat in Parliament.

It is the first in which voters are compelled to vote only at the voting station where they are registered.

It is the first time an ANC splinter party is headed by a former party president and head of state.

Former president Jacob Zuma's uMkhonto weSizwe (MK) Party's inaugural election performance will be closely watched - it is expected to perform reasonably in KwaZulu-Natal and parts of Gauteng. However, its main role in the election build-up so far has been its rapid and dangerous attempt to sow seeds of doubt in the integrity of the Electoral Commission of SA's (IEC) running of the elections.

IEC chief electoral officer Sy Mamabolo, at a media briefing late on Tuesday, flagged this as an acute risk and challenge for the commission.

The year 2024 has also witnessed a record number of young people registering to vote. A record number of political parties will be contesting it and, over the last two days, a record number of special votes were cast by the elderly and those who could not make it to the polls.

Voting stations are set to open at 07:00 and close at 21:00 - what happens within those 14 hours will decide the country's fate for the next five years.

It has been a gruelling campaign for the many parties contesting the polls.

A key distinguishing factor, at least for the ANC, setting it apart from the 2021 elections is a consistent 62 days without load shedding (power cuts).

Planned power cuts devastated the ANC's support in the last two elections, particularly in crucial provinces such as Gauteng and KwaZulu-Natal. Eskom's ability to keep the lights on for over two months is a boon for the incumbent.

Political parties, primarily the three largest, will be focused on one thing during this 14-hour window: ensuring their supporters turn out at voting stations to cast their votes.

Voter turnout will be crucial at the end of the day. It will give each party a sense of their performance long before results begin trickling in, it will help them gauge the mood of the electorate, to determine whether the long, gruelling campaign preceding the election paid off.

"From an ANC point of view, our major opponent in this election would be an inability to mobilise and energise our support base to go out and vote on election day," ANC head of elections Mdumiseni Ntuli told a webinar with party veterans this week.

"The ANC has had difficulty in the past elections to mobilise our support base to go out and vote on election day."

This time around, the party is taking no chances. Ntuli has implemented a new strategy to ensure ANC voters pitch up. Each voting district has been allocated a minimum of 20 volunteers. Each volunteer has been allocated 50 to 100 registered voters.

The volunteers must ensure that all the voters allocated to them pitch up to vote by comparing their lists to the voters' roll. Volunteers will knock on the doors of these voters (known to be supporters of the ANC) to ensure that they vote.

"These elections are going to be won on our capacity to coordinate this work, but equally to enforce accountability [by volunteers]," he said. A central operation centre has been set up to coordinate this, provide support where needed, and step in where local structures or volunteers drop the ball.

The ANC is in a unique position - it benefits from both a low and a high voter turnout.

A medium voter turnout, which we had in 2019, generally spells disaster for the ANC.

A low voter turnout implies that opposition parties failed to turn out their supporters, and a high voter turnout means the ANC has managed to successfully energise its voter base to ensure that it pitches up at the polls. This time around a gruelling 40-day "battle plan" adopted by the ANC's highest decision-making body, the national executive committee, was adopted to ensure its base turns up to vote on election day.

A small part of this plan was to roll out former party leaders, which the ANC has not done since the 2004 election when it obtained a two-thirds majority in electoral support. The balance of the campaign entailed intense door-to-door work.

This time around, it is targeting 11 million voters. The difference from the last election is that each voter is allocated to a volunteer who must ensure they turn up to cast their votes.

The ANC is matched only by the DA in terms of national reach and coverage. Only the ANC and DA have party machinery that stretches the length and breadth of the country.

The DA's acting campaign manager, Ashor Sarupen, said a high voter turnout would suit it better. The official opposition's sweet spot is a high-medium to high turnout.

"When voter turnout is low, we find that the smaller parties do well, a situation which is not ideal for us," he said.

The DA must know precisely who their voters are - a determination made between elections and during the campaign.

Those voters are approached on election day to ensure that they turn up to vote. The DA will also provide transport for those in need, using an extensive volunteer base . A practice used by both the ANC and EFF in the past - in which they bus people en-masse to voting stations - will not be possible this time around due to legal changes compelling voters to cast their votes only where they are registered.

The EFF is also pushing its volunteers and established voters to bring 20 people with them to vote for the party. Party leader Julius Malema told the party's final campaign rally on Sunday that volunteers must ensure that EFF supporters are transported to their respective voting stations.

"We have not won elections, we are starting now… Fighters, any of the leaders who lie and say there are party agents and there are none, any leader who says there is transport and there is none is worse than a spy and an agent," he said.

He urged all party volunteers to be honest about their capacity to ensure voters are transported to voting stations, so that the national leadership can "intervene" if required. The EFF also has an election nerve centre, with call centre agents to ensure that they can respond where their volunteers or party agents encounter problems.

Small parties are at a distinct disadvantage when it comes to ensuring their voters pitch up due to a lack of capacity and resources. This can be seen in election results - despite more than 60 parties contesting the 2019 polls, only a handful obtained seats in Parliament.

Despite being well into winter, mild, sunny weather has been forecast for most of the country on Wednesday. This, Mamabolo said at a media briefing late on Tuesday, boosts chances of a higher voter turnout.

Another crucial factor is whether people believe voting will make a difference, according to the DA's Sarupen.

"In this election, we believe opposition voters are very motivated because of the ANC's poor performance in 2021," he said. Opinion polls have gone some way in influencing this perception too. Many showed a drop in support for the governing party, some predicting a fall of nearly 20 percentage points: unlikely, given past election and by-election trends.

If na HiNEC go call the results...

Hmmmmm.....Nigerians and other African nationals living there should lock themselves up untill the election is over, those lazy black xenophobic ass-es will want to use someone's lifeless body to demonstrate ...

Ever8090:
Hmmmmm.....Nigerians and other African nationals living there should lock themselves up untill the election is over, those lazy black xenophobic ass-es will want to use someone's lifeless body to demonstrate ...

Over the past 30 years of democracy, when have other Africans been attacked during elections? Supply facts.

WannaHowzit:


Over the past 30 years of democracy, when have other Africans been attacked during elections? Supply facts.

I gave a warning to save lives and not for argument..

Ever8090:
I gave a warning to save lives and not for argument..

A warning based on fiction and not facts?

WannaHowzit:


A warning based on fiction and not facts?

as long as people receive and apply it and are safe, it doesn't matter if it were based on fiction and vision...

Apart from USA, South Africa is probably the only other country with a significant number of black citizens and still manage to WORK.

Imagine an incumbent being nervous about an election because they've been cutting power supply.

Just imagine an African country with consequences for bad and ineffective leadership.

Meanwhile, Nigerians live in INTERMINABLE darkness while FAT mosquitoes feast on their bony bodies.

YET they attend political functions to SERENADE the root of all their problems so fervently and loudly that he was forced to tell them to "SHUT THE FUUUCK UP!"

Nigeria and South Africa are not on the same level.

Ever8090:
I gave a warning to save lives and not for argument..

They are too busy peddling drugs and selling pirated CDs(in 2024 lol) in the dirty streets of Hillbrow to pay this "warning" any attention.

If the right party wins we'll sure do them a great service of deporting their asses back to the open sh*t gutter streets of Makoko and Kirikiri so that the peaceful ritualists and boko haram can give them a royal welcome-back🤔🤞

Ever8090:
as long as people receive and apply it and are safe, it doesn't matter if it were based on fiction and vision...

Foreign nationals living in SA know the reality, not fiction concocted from Japageria.

Ever8090:
I gave a warning to save lives and not for argument..

You simply don't have an answer

People that kills and burn alive their fellow Africans just because 1$ = 20 ZAR

JaceBlaze:


They are too busy peddling drugs and selling pirated CDs(in 2024 lol) in the dirty streets of Hillbrow to pay this "warning" any attention.

If the right party wins we'll sure do them a great service of deporting their asses back to the open sh*t gutter streets of Makoko and Kirikiri so that the peaceful ritualists and boko haram can give them a royal welcome-back🤔🤞

And who are the people still buying pirated CDs in 2024?...lol, the bigger joke will forever be on you


And I hope the most xenophobic candidate wins....I have my reasons

Starzo:


And who are the people still buying pirated CDs in 2024?...lol, the bigger joke will forever be on you

They're just a front for Japageria's real globally renowned exports - drugs and fraud 🇳🇬👎🏾

Insert gutter pooping emojis 💩💩💩

Starzo:


And who are the people still buying pirated CDs in 2024?...lol, the bigger joke will forever be on you


And I hope the most xenophobic candidate wins....I have my reasons

South Africans don't live in Hillbrow so I guess you pretty much still remains the butt of the joke?🤔

And trust me,I'm not even the least interested in what your reasons are.🤡🤡

JaceBlaze:


They are too busy peddling drugs and selling pirated CDs(in 2024 lol) in the dirty streets of Hillbrow to pay this "warning" any attention.

If the right party wins we'll sure do them a great service of deporting their asses back to the open sh*t gutter streets of Makoko and Kirikiri so that the peaceful ritualists and boko haram can give them a royal welcome-back🤔🤞

the list financial incapacitated nigerian living in south Africa is doing better the lazy black ass south African who are slaves in their country.

What else does a black south African does than looking for hardworking Nigerian living in south Africa to hate?

Nigerians have taken your wealth and women and instead of working hard to retrieve those, you are looking for improved xenophobic tactics to deal with Nigerians and other blacks.

If not for Nigeria who came to your aid, no one can imagine where you guys would have been in your own father's land owned by whites.

Ever8090:
the list financial incapacitated nigerian living in south Africa is doing better the lazy black ass south African who are slaves in their country.

What else does a black south African does than looking for hardworking Nigerian living in south Africa to hate?

Nigerians have taken your wealth and women and instead of working hard to retrieve those, you are looking for improved xenophobic tactics to deal with Nigerians and other blacks.

If not for Nigeria who came to your aid, no one can imagine where you guys would have been in your own father's land owned by whites.

Terrible and unintelligent to use such metric for this particular comparison.Why don't you compare a lazy poor Nigerian living in Nigeria and a lazy poor South African living in South Africa and let's see which one lives in true hell? We all know why lol .Nigerians are stacked up 80 deep like sadines in dilapitated Hillbrow buildings but you think that's good living,,says a lot about your previous conditions before you came here.

No such thing as a hardworking Nigerian,sorry,never heard of it.All the innocent souls whose organs you sold to your village voodoo doctor? Is that what's called hardwork over there? Then I'm happy to be called lazy.


Impossible that a country that sold and still sell it's own people into slavery can come to the aid of someone living 10 thousand kilometers down in Southern Africa.Cooked up a fantasy just to stroke your ego?

I'll prefer Julius Malema

Ever8090:
the list financial incapacitated nigerian living in south Africa is doing better the lazy black ass south African who are slaves in their country.

What else does a black south African does than looking for hardworking Nigerian living in south Africa to hate?

Nigerians have taken your wealth and women and instead of working hard to retrieve those, you are looking for improved xenophobic tactics to deal with Nigerians and other blacks.

If not for Nigeria who came to your aid, no one can imagine where you guys would have been in your own father's land owned by whites.

"hardworking" people my a$$! you roaches are despised all over the world for a reason, banned all over the world for your criminality, so please spare us this "they are Lazy" played-out nonsense! if we indeed are so-called "lazy" how on earth does it concern you? Are we perhaps "lazy" in your country? do we burden your welfare system? do you see jobless South African hobos roaming the streets of Lagos? yes/ no? So how is our supposed "laziness" in our own country your business? how is it your business what we South Africans get up to in our country? I don't get the obsession! The only lazy people I see are you people, who'd rather flee to countries built by the sweat of other men than remain and build your own country to a desirable level! you'd rather scam and even boil your mother's heads for money rituals...traffic people or push drugs all for a quick buck.! You are the epitome of laziness, just look how uncouth you are, shitting all over the place like unevolved apes you are!!

LOL. Compare an average South African to a Nigerian, and you'll see who lives like a slave.. who'd rather leave a banking job in Nigeria to go scrub arab feces in Dubai toilets, whose women would leave Nigeria to go prostitute in Italy, who is willing to risk drowning in the Mediterranean en route to Spain, who's relocating to who's country for a better life?..etc etc.. You have the worst of everything my guy, the worst infrastructure, the worst standard of living, the worst sanitation, literacy, electricity, standard of life, etc, but have the gall to call inhabitants of the most industrialized nation in Africa "slaves"? if so, what the hell are you even doing in SA? the land of "slaves"? is life so unbearable in Nigeria that you'd rather be a "slave" in South Africa? You have an abundance of oil but most of you live like paupers! and the dream of an average Nigerian is to settle abroad..so who's a slave between me and you?

Who told you you Nigerians in SA are wealthy and take our women? ..Dude, the wealthiest blacks in South Africa are black South Africans!! Johannesburg alone has the most black millionaires in Africa, so which wealth have you taken? apart from a few professionals here and there, most Nigerians in SA are scraping the bottom of the barrel and are known for nothing other than criminality, so please stop over-hyping your people, we live with them, we know!

And don't get me started with SA women, you can never "take" them away from us, we are still their preferred choice, every country prefers their own men, and there are so many beautiful women in SA, that it's pointless getting in a tussle with a Nigerian not used to nice huns,

Nigeria came to who's aid? Did a Nigerian die for our struggle? yes? no? Nigeria's good for nothing country, all it's good for is producing born refugees and ignorant loudmouths like you.. Which aid are you providing now? Congo's burning? Palestine's burning? who are you helping? You had to ask everyone in the world to help you search for a few missing girls, missing in your own country!! kidnapped by a few thugs useless country

WannaHowzit:
Wednesday's election is one for the history books.

It feels like a moment to remember, and you, the South African voters, will decide exactly how seminal it will be in the next few hours.

The 2024 election is a first in many ways, despite being the seventh democratic election in a year which marks 30 years since the fall of apartheid and the rise of a constitutional democracy.

Crucially, it is the first time the governing ANC may lose its outright majority, not because the polling says so, but because the ANC's electoral dominance has been in steady decline since 2009, dropping to a low of 57.5% in 2019 and slipping below 50% for the first time in the 2021 municipal elections.

Unemployment, a limping economy, corruption, incompetence, crumbling infrastructure, and power and water cuts have all contributed to the decline in confidence in the ANC.

It is also the first election in which independent candidates will contest for a seat in Parliament.

It is the first in which voters are compelled to vote only at the voting station where they are registered.

It is the first time an ANC splinter party is headed by a former party president and head of state.

Former president Jacob Zuma's uMkhonto weSizwe (MK) Party's inaugural election performance will be closely watched - it is expected to perform reasonably in KwaZulu-Natal and parts of Gauteng. However, its main role in the election build-up so far has been its rapid and dangerous attempt to sow seeds of doubt in the integrity of the Electoral Commission of SA's (IEC) running of the elections.

IEC chief electoral officer Sy Mamabolo, at a media briefing late on Tuesday, flagged this as an acute risk and challenge for the commission.

The year 2024 has also witnessed a record number of young people registering to vote. A record number of political parties will be contesting it and, over the last two days, a record number of special votes were cast by the elderly and those who could not make it to the polls.

Voting stations are set to open at 07:00 and close at 21:00 - what happens within those 14 hours will decide the country's fate for the next five years.

It has been a gruelling campaign for the many parties contesting the polls.

A key distinguishing factor, at least for the ANC, setting it apart from the 2021 elections is a consistent 62 days without load shedding (power cuts).

Planned power cuts devastated the ANC's support in the last two elections, particularly in crucial provinces such as Gauteng and KwaZulu-Natal. Eskom's ability to keep the lights on for over two months is a boon for the incumbent.

Political parties, primarily the three largest, will be focused on one thing during this 14-hour window: ensuring their supporters turn out at voting stations to cast their votes.

Voter turnout will be crucial at the end of the day. It will give each party a sense of their performance long before results begin trickling in, it will help them gauge the mood of the electorate, to determine whether the long, gruelling campaign preceding the election paid off.

"From an ANC point of view, our major opponent in this election would be an inability to mobilise and energise our support base to go out and vote on election day," ANC head of elections Mdumiseni Ntuli told a webinar with party veterans this week.

"The ANC has had difficulty in the past elections to mobilise our support base to go out and vote on election day."

This time around, the party is taking no chances. Ntuli has implemented a new strategy to ensure ANC voters pitch up. Each voting district has been allocated a minimum of 20 volunteers. Each volunteer has been allocated 50 to 100 registered voters.

The volunteers must ensure that all the voters allocated to them pitch up to vote by comparing their lists to the voters' roll. Volunteers will knock on the doors of these voters (known to be supporters of the ANC) to ensure that they vote.

"These elections are going to be won on our capacity to coordinate this work, but equally to enforce accountability [by volunteers]," he said. A central operation centre has been set up to coordinate this, provide support where needed, and step in where local structures or volunteers drop the ball.

The ANC is in a unique position - it benefits from both a low and a high voter turnout.

A medium voter turnout, which we had in 2019, generally spells disaster for the ANC.

A low voter turnout implies that opposition parties failed to turn out their supporters, and a high voter turnout means the ANC has managed to successfully energise its voter base to ensure that it pitches up at the polls. This time around a gruelling 40-day "battle plan" adopted by the ANC's highest decision-making body, the national executive committee, was adopted to ensure its base turns up to vote on election day.

A small part of this plan was to roll out former party leaders, which the ANC has not done since the 2004 election when it obtained a two-thirds majority in electoral support. The balance of the campaign entailed intense door-to-door work.

This time around, it is targeting 11 million voters. The difference from the last election is that each voter is allocated to a volunteer who must ensure they turn up to cast their votes.

The ANC is matched only by the DA in terms of national reach and coverage. Only the ANC and DA have party machinery that stretches the length and breadth of the country.

The DA's acting campaign manager, Ashor Sarupen, said a high voter turnout would suit it better. The official opposition's sweet spot is a high-medium to high turnout.

"When voter turnout is low, we find that the smaller parties do well, a situation which is not ideal for us," he said.

The DA must know precisely who their voters are - a determination made between elections and during the campaign.

Those voters are approached on election day to ensure that they turn up to vote. The DA will also provide transport for those in need, using an extensive volunteer base . A practice used by both the ANC and EFF in the past - in which they bus people en-masse to voting stations - will not be possible this time around due to legal changes compelling voters to cast their votes only where they are registered.

The EFF is also pushing its volunteers and established voters to bring 20 people with them to vote for the party. Party leader Julius Malema told the party's final campaign rally on Sunday that volunteers must ensure that EFF supporters are transported to their respective voting stations.

"We have not won elections, we are starting now… Fighters, any of the leaders who lie and say there are party agents and there are none, any leader who says there is transport and there is none is worse than a spy and an agent," he said.

He urged all party volunteers to be honest about their capacity to ensure voters are transported to voting stations, so that the national leadership can "intervene" if required. The EFF also has an election nerve centre, with call centre agents to ensure that they can respond where their volunteers or party agents encounter problems.

Small parties are at a distinct disadvantage when it comes to ensuring their voters pitch up due to a lack of capacity and resources. This can be seen in election results - despite more than 60 parties contesting the 2019 polls, only a handful obtained seats in Parliament.

Despite being well into winter, mild, sunny weather has been forecast for most of the country on Wednesday. This, Mamabolo said at a media briefing late on Tuesday, boosts chances of a higher voter turnout.

Another crucial factor is whether people believe voting will make a difference, according to the DA's Sarupen.

"In this election, we believe opposition voters are very motivated because of the ANC's poor performance in 2021," he said. Opinion polls have gone some way in influencing this perception too. Many showed a drop in support for the governing party, some predicting a fall of nearly 20 percentage points: unlikely, given past election and by-election trends.

Pls can I've your WhatsApp number

I've few questions for you please

JaceBlaze:


They are too busy peddling drugs and selling pirated CDs(in 2024 lol) in the dirty streets of Hillbrow to pay this "warning" any attention.

If the right party wins we'll sure do them a great service of deporting their asses back to the open sh*t gutter streets of Makoko and Kirikiri so that the peaceful ritualists and boko haram can give them a royal welcome-back🤔🤞

Amplify it noble man. You are a true son of your father. You are just like your ancestor, You are doing great.
South Africa was built by the owners of South Africans. I hope EFF wins, so Malema can free those our black brothers from their owners. I love Malema's attempt at this.

TheBillyonaire:


Amplify it noble man. You are a true son of your father. You are just like your ancestor, You are doing great.

Let me ask you a random question - why did you vote for that old man Tinubu?

JaceBlaze:


Let me ask you a random question - why did you vote for that old man Tinubu?

Because he is a human being. Why did you ask?

IronGalaxy:
"hardworking" people my a$$! you roaches are despised all over the world for a reason, banned all over the world for your criminality, so please spare us this "they are Lazy" played-out nonsense! if we indeed are so-called "lazy" how on earth does it concern you? Are we perhaps "lazy" in your country? do we burden your welfare system? do you see jobless South African hobos roaming the streets of Lagos? yes/ no? So how is our supposed "laziness" in our own country your business? how is it your business what we South Africans get up to in our country? I don't get the obsession! The only lazy people I see are you people, who'd rather flee to countries built by the sweat of other men than remain and build your own country to a desirable level! you'd rather scam and even boil your mother's heads for money rituals...traffic people or push drugs all for a quick buck.! You are the epitome of laziness, just look how uncouth you are, shitting all over the place like unevolved apes you are!!

LOL. Compare an average South African to a Nigerian, and you'll see who lives like a slave.. who'd rather leave a banking job in Nigeria to go scrub arab feces in Dubai, whose women would leave Nigeria to go prostitute in Italy, who is willing to risk drowning in the Mediterranean en route to Spain, who's relocating to who's country for a better life..etc etc.. You have the worst of everything my guy, the worst infrastructure, the worst standard of living, the worst sanitation, literacy, electricity, standard of life, etc, but have the gall to call inhabitants of the most industrialized nation in Africa "slaves"? if so, what the hell are you even doing in SA? the land of "slaves"? is life so unbearable in Nigeria that you'd rather be a "slave" in South Africa? You have an abundance of oil but most of you live like paupers! and the dream of an average Nigerian is to settle abroad..so who's a slave between me and you ?

Who told you you Nigerians in SA are wealthy and take our women? ..Dude, the wealthiest blacks in South Africa are black South Africans!! Johannesburg alone has the most black millionaires in Africa, so which wealth have you taken? apart from a few professionals here and there, most Nigerians in SA are scraping the bottom of the barrel and are known for nothing other than criminality, so please stop over-hyping your people, we live with them, we know!

And don't get me started with SA women, you can never "take" them away from us, we are still their preferred choice, every country prefers their own men, and there are so many beautiful women in SA, that it's pointless getting in a tussle with a Nigerian not used to nice huns,

Nigeria came to who's aid? Did a Nigerian die for our struggle? yes? no? Nigeria's good for nothing country, all it's good for is producing born refugees and ignorant loudmouths like you.. Which aid are you providing now? Congo's burning? Palestine's burning? who are you helping? You had to ask everyone in the world to help you search for a few missing girls, missing in your own country!! kidnapped by a few thugs useless country

You spend so much time writing critically nonsensical epistles from your emotional budget. This makes you feel better - a therapy from your burdens of sufferings and pain. I encourage you to continue, if it makes you feel better. Playing around with kids forum and thinking people really come here. Do you own a stake in South Africa? Or just a suffering wave that dissipates with time with zero history.

TheBillyonaire:


Because he is a human being. Why did you ask?

Okay,

I saw you interrupt my mentions with some random texts and I thought I'd humour you with a random question of mine.

JaceBlaze:


Okay,

I saw you interrupt my mentions with some random texts and I thought I'd humour you with a random question of mine.

I do not interrupt mentions, I saw random posts disturbing my play ground and it seems to me that who ever is using this username derailed the thread about South Africa's attempt to find a better governing structure to free it's blacks from poetic poverty into dynamics of mental masturbation.

Are you a sane person at all? Why not stay on the title of the thread than derail the thread about SA into your neanderthal culture of hate.

TheBillyonaire:


You spend so much time writing critically nonsensical epistles from your emotional budget. This makes you feel better - a therapy from your burdens of sufferings and pain. I encourage you to continue, if it makes you feel better. Playing around with kids forum and thinking people really come here. Do you own a stake in South Africa? Or just a suffering wave that dissipates with time with zero history.

hahahaha..Your people spend so much time insulting..why's that? The thread says" South Africans go to the polls after 30 years of democracy" and your first instinct is to insult.. for what? you need to ask yourselves why you're the way you are instead of deflecting

Nice one!