Lexusgs430:


It's not paywalled...... I am not subscribed to the Telegraph......

Ok, looks like just registration needed. Someone provided an alternative.

Paxziano:


If the person is a fresh graduate it may be possible from what i gathered. but different civil service jobs hv their different pay grades

@Zahra49, can you please shed more light on this

Lexusgs430:


It might be a faceless forum, but people could still reach out to each other, by dropping telephone numbers/or alternative contact details........ Of course, this is subject to the personalities involved.........

Some of us don't only chat to Nairalanders on Nairaland, we still chat via WhatsApp or telephone calls (even meet up when occasion warrants).....

Some of us cannot all be introverts or a strange mix of been extroverted......😂😁

Yes oo, some of us have Lexus430 whatsapp..Infact am sending you a message on an unrelated matter.

To add to what's said, best bet is to return home. As you've overstayed, keep in mind that this comes with a re-entry ban. If you leave now at your own expense, it's a 12-month ban allowing you to re-strategise and re-enter in a year's time.

All the best.

Osoderi:
Good day house pls I need advice for my family friend who is here in the UK with her husband, she needs help from us/ advice/ suggestions. The home office has written to them to leave the UK, because their student route was not successful after the hubby failed on several occasions. Before their visa expired this year January, the lady tried looking for sponsorship,unfortunately she did not get, so a lawyer adviced they apply for PSW on the ground that her hubby will repeat and pass the exams,which they quickly did, but he failed it again and home office refused the application. We are so confused now. They are now overstayers. She is trying to seek asylum. please have anybody gone through this process OR you know any one that has gone through this asylum. Some pple advised to seek asylum in Ireland. Can anybody help us with a good lawyer that can assist. She doesn't have a job now.

Going back home is not the best solution now. pls help we are confused now. Not easy on them. Thank u.

Osoderi:
Good day house pls I need advice for my family friend who is here in the UK with her husband, she needs help from us/ advice/ suggestions. The home office has written to them to leave the UK, because their student route was not successful after the hubby failed on several occasions. Before their visa expired this year January, the lady tried looking for sponsorship,unfortunately she did not get, so a lawyer adviced they apply for PSW on the ground that her hubby will repeat and pass the exams,which they quickly did, but he failed it again and home office refused the application. We are so confused now. They are now overstayers. She is trying to seek asylum. please have anybody gone through this process OR you know any one that has gone through this asylum. Some pple advised to seek asylum in Ireland. Can anybody help us with a good lawyer that can assist. She doesn't have a job now.

Going back home is not the best solution now. pls help we are confused now. Not easy on them. Thank u.

This might not be the answer you want to hear but tell her to try
1) Germany Opportunity Card (opens in June I think)
2) Funded US PhD programs, if she has a degree with good standing

Applying for Asylum when her life is not in obvious danger is an abuse of immigration system and it ends up causing more problems for people who truly need it. Ireland has ramped up their scrutiny for Nigerians moving from UK to seek Asylum in Ireland and the UK is even something else with the new Rwanda scheme and all.

Sorry about your friend's situation..

I feel like the lawyer didn't try by making them spend more money to apply for PSW .. i might be wrong.. ..

Yet again, i will always state the bitter truth...

Going back to Nigeria should always be an option .. even if it is the very last option....

Overstaying, asylum, etc is another dimension entirely....

I wish them well

Osoderi:
Good day house pls I need advice for my family friend who is here in the UK with her husband, she needs help from us/ advice/ suggestions. The home office has written to them to leave the UK, because their student route was not successful after the hubby failed on several occasions. Before their visa expired this year January, the lady tried looking for sponsorship,unfortunately she did not get, so a lawyer adviced they apply for PSW on the ground that her hubby will repeat and pass the exams,which they quickly did, but he failed it again and home office refused the application. We are so confused now. They are now overstayers. She is trying to seek asylum. please have anybody gone through this process OR you know any one that has gone through this asylum. Some pple advised to seek asylum in Ireland. Can anybody help us with a good lawyer that can assist. She doesn't have a job now.

Going back home is not the best solution now. pls help we are confused now. Not easy on them. Thank u.

Bukad:


@Zahra49, can you please shed more light on this

Hi Bukad,

For someone who isn't already on a skilled visa or isn't applying on the new entrant route, the eligible salary has to be the higher of the standard going rate or £38,700.

Bros don’t tell me you subscribed for telegraph because me I can’t oo. Oya tell me the cheat on how you read their news? 🙌🏾

Lexusgs430:
See how your taxes are wasted...... You would truly cringe........ 😕😕


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/05/28/bulgarian-town-boomed-from-uks-biggest-benefits-fraud/

Zahra29:


Hi Bukad,

For someone who isn't already on a skilled visa or isn't applying on the new entrant route, the eligible salary has to be the higher of the standard going rate or £38,700.

Thanks for the breakdown @Zahra29.

Please how does this affect someone on Health and Care Visa who gets say a Project support officer Civil service role of say 30,900 pay.

Which rule apply??

Zahra29:
Similar story as Teeside university, but this time at Sussex:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clwwql8gzx0o.amp

@babajeje, what's happening with your friend at Teeside?

Nothing yet

Bukad:


Thanks for the breakdown @Zahra29.

Please how does this affect someone on Health and Care Visa who gets say a Project support officer Civil service role of say 30,900 pay.

Which rule apply??

As they are switching into the skilled visa route, the new salary rules would apply.

However the project support role meets the salary requirements under the new entrant route. Are they a recent graduate (in the last 4 years) or under 26 for example?

babajeje123:

Nothing yet

Has he tried reaching out to Teeside again following the news article?

How much time is left of his notice? Is he applying for sponsored roles, (or another school might be an option if Teeside refunds him the unused portion of his fees)

Zahra29:


As they are switching into the skilled visa route, the new salary rules would apply.

However the project support role meets the salary requirements under the new entrant route. Are they a recent graduate (in the last 4 years) or under 26 for example?

What if they did MSc but switched visas to Health and Care before finishing the studies and still graduated and above 26 years?

Hi Everyone,

I need some advice for a friend. He has a 5-year sponsorship visa but cannot afford to pay for visas for all three of his dependents for the full duration. Is it possible for him to apply for 3-year visas for his dependents using his 5-year sponsorship code?

Thanks in advance for your help!

willyede:
Hi Everyone,

I need some advice for a friend. He has a 5-year sponsorship visa but cannot afford to pay for visas for all three of his dependents for the full duration. Is it possible for him to apply for 3-year visas for his dependents using his 5-year sponsorship code?

Thanks in advance for your help!

5 years for all.

NezzyMike:



5 years for all.

Thank you for your response. The total cost is far too high for my friend. He cannot afford £19K for one adult and two children ATM. Is it possible for him to pay for a 5-year visa for his wife and 3-year visas for the children to reduce the financial burden?

Thank you.

willyede:

Thank you for your response. The total cost is far too high for my friend. He cannot afford £19K for one adult and two children ATM. Is it possible for him to pay for a 5-year visa for his wife and 3-year visas for the children to reduce the financial burden?

Thank you.

WHAT........😞🤔

£19,000 for only 5 years visa ....... Haba, the cost of immigration is equitable to paying a deposit on a mortgage + all other logistical cost ....... Loads of respect.....👍

Zahra29:


Has he tried reaching out to Teeside again following the news article?

How much time is left of his notice? Is he applying for sponsored roles, (or another school might be an option if Teeside refunds him the unused portion of his fees)

School not responding to emails again.

This is crazy!

Lexusgs430:
See how your taxes are wasted...... You would truly cringe........ 😕😕


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/05/28/bulgarian-town-boomed-from-uks-biggest-benefits-fraud/

Zahra29:
Similar story as Teeside university, but this time at Sussex:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clwwql8gzx0o.amp

@babajeje, what's happening with your friend at Teeside?

Running to the press isn’t doing as much good as it once did. This is election season and frankly they are only reinforcing the fact that the government needs to have stricter laws for students financial stability before they are granted their Tier 4 visa.

willyede:

Thank you for your response. The total cost is far too high for my friend. He cannot afford £19K for one adult and two children ATM. Is it possible for him to pay for a 5-year visa for his wife and 3-year visas for the children to reduce the financial burden?

Thank you.

Your friend should speak to his employer about this. They could pay for him and just deduct it from his pay on a monthly basis.

kwakudtraveller:

Running to the press isn’t doing as much good as it once did. This is election season and frankly they are only reinforcing the fact that the government needs to have stricter laws for students financial stability before they are granted their Tier 4 visa.

But for the students in question , it’s a cry for help…last resort of sorts. Encouraged to see NHC will intervene, hopefully something good comes out of it.

Jamesclooney:


But for the students in question , it’s a cry for help…last resort of sorts. Encouraged to see NHC will intervene, hopefully something good comes out of it.

Understood. Hopefully they sort it out, and it deters people from moving here without their complete fees in hopes that they’ll work enough hours to pay for a £10,000 balance.

kwakudtraveller:

Understood. Hopefully they sort it out, and it deters people from moving here without their complete fees in hopes that they’ll work enough hours to pay for a £10,000 balance. 

That’s not all of the story. £/Ngn fx rates have also plummeted since 2022/2023. I recall changing Naira at black market rate of 700+/£ in Jan 2022 (CBN rate was about 540+/£ then). At the peak of FX crises, black market was as high as 2,200/£ and the official CBN window no longer accessible to students. Meaning £10k went from 7 million to 22 million in just a few months. So maybe have some sympathy for those caught up in the evil disaster called APC/Tinubunomics!

Lexusgs430:


WHAT........😞🤔

£19,000 for only 5 years visa ....... Haba, the cost of immigration is equitable to paying a deposit on a mortgage + all other logistical cost ....... Loads of respect.....👍

option 1: speak to his employers
option 2: approach a bank for loan payable over 5 years
option 3: reach out to ukvi on his circumstances (never say never)

Jamesclooney:


That’s not all of the story. £/Ngn fx rates have also plummeted since 2022/2023. I recall changing Naira at black market rate of 700+/£ in Jan 2022 (CBN rate was about 540+/£ then). At the peak of FX crises, black market was as high as 2,200/£ and the official CBN window no longer accessible to students. Meaning £10k went from 7 million to 22 million in just a few months. So maybe have some sympathy for those caught up in the evil disaster called APC/Tinubunomics!

I’m a serial empath, but I also know when to be a realist and not blame a situation that isn’t truly the reason why these people can’t pay their fees. 

FX rates to pay fees mostly apply to BSc students who expect to be funded annually by their family back home and not Master’s students, who are the main perpetrators. A number of these people expected to pay their fees by working odd jobs. 

This whole situation doesn’t even affect only Nigerians; some of these Indians are guilty of not paying their full fees, and they get locked out of the school portals, but they don’t run to the press because they know that they came without their complete fees, and they do their merry-go-round to pay up instead of running to the press. That’s why you see most headlines shouting "Nigerian students asked to leave" and "Nigerian students this and that”.

It’s as if you people don’t understand that the consequences of our actions affect innocent people. People have messed up the marriage route to the point that other nationalities who got married to genuine foreign spouses can’t bring in their partners because they do not meet the salary threshold. I personally know a Brit who got married to an American and is struggling to bring his wife over because he earns way less than the approved amount. Go on Reddit and see people complaining. 

Now sef with whatever policy they come up with, I’m certain that genuine students who actually want to come here would have to go through hoops to prove that they can actually afford their fees.

Is it possible to apply for new visa to vary a processing one with the current student visa/BRP expired? I’ve been trying to apply for skilled worker visa but the UK ID app keeps saying wrong document and has locked me out of the app for 24hrs (I’m using BRP and same thing happened again today).

Is there another way to apply without using the app and can I apply with my BRP expired. It expired today.

kwakudtraveller:

I’m a serial empath, but I also know when to be a realist and not blame a situation that isn’t truly the reason why these people can’t pay their fees. 

FX rates to pay fees mostly apply to BSc students who expect to be funded annually by their family back home and not Master’s students, who are the main perpetrators. A number of these people are expected to pay their fees by working odd jobs. 

This whole situation doesn’t even affect only Nigerians; some of these Indians are guilty of not paying their full fees, and they get locked out of the school portals, but they don’t run to the press because they know that they came without their complete fees, and they do their merry-go-round to pay up instead of running to the press. That’s why you see most headlines shouting "Nigerian students asked to leave" and "Nigerian students this and that”.

A number of issues with your post:
1. IMHO, You’re wrong! Even if it’s one person impacted by the fx crisis, it’s worth noting and being empathetic because no one can plan for that. Also for those who’s plan it was to pay fees with odd jobs in the UK, you’ll have little or no help if you decide to fall back on plan b of crowdfunding from friends and family back home because their Naira/assets lost tremendous value in a short space of time. So fx rate is still relevant.

2. You’re clueless saying fx rates applying to BSC alone because a good number of MSC students didn’t pay 100% at the start. Lots of people did deposit and then 30/30/40. Or whatever payment plan their university allowed them. For example, if I joined a programme Jan 2023, I’d pay my final instalment by Dec 2023, by then the new fx rates kicked in. I know someone who had a payment plan of £500/monthly running almost 12 months post graduation.

3. Based on the above, if that was my plan as it was obtainable for other students in the past and the university drastically changes their policy, why should I go back to Nigeria “quietly” so I don’t offend kwakudtraveller‘a sensibilities?
What do I have to lose? You can bet your bottom dollar I would make all the noise possible in the hope escalation leads to positive intervention and a solution. (Plus the empathy and understanding from compassionate people)

seunoj:


option 1: speak to his employers
option 2: approach a bank for loan payable over 5 years
option 3: reach out to ukvi on his circumstances (never say never)

£20,000 bank loan at 6.9 APR, over 5 years would be about £420 each month for 5 years....... When the loan payment is over, another visa renewal would be due....... Where would it end.... I cannot even offer a better solution......

Lexusgs430:


£20,000 bank loan at 6.9 APR, over 5 years would be about £420 each month for 5 years....... When the loan payment is over, another visa renewal would be due....... Where would it end.... I cannot even offer a better solution......

Boss, the main reason for the demand for care visa by pple with families. With care visa, all na £2k but the road don cast.

Jamesclooney:


A number of issues with your post:
1. IMHO, You’re wrong! Even if it’s one person impacted by the fx crisis, it’s worth noting and being empathetic because no one can plan for that. Also for those who’s plan it was to pay fees with odd jobs in the UK, you’ll have little or no help if you decide to fall back on plan b of crowdfunding from friends and family back home because their Naira/assets lost tremendous value in a short space of time. So fx rate is still relevant.

2. You’re clueless saying fx rates applying to BSC alone because a good number of MSC students didn’t pay 100% at the start. Lots of people did deposit and then 30/30/40. Or whatever payment plan their university allowed them. For example, if I joined a programme Jan 2023, I’d pay my final instalment by Dec 2023, by then the new fx rates kicked in. I know someone who had a payment plan of £500/monthly running almost 12 months post graduation.

3. Based on the above, if that was my plan as it was obtainable for other students in the past and the university drastically changes their policy, why should I go back to Nigeria “quietly” so I don’t offend kwakudtraveller‘a sensibilities?
What do I have to lose? You can bet your bottom dollar I would make all the noise possible in the hope escalation leads to positive intervention and a solution. (Plus the empathy and understanding from compassionate people)

Your whole logic is highly flawed. To embark on a Master’s degree, you have to be able to afford it. The universities expect that you pay a high percentage when you arrive. They are usually nice enough to give you the option of a payment plan, but they expect you to be able to afford it. Why wasn't the money you locked in your account for 28 days to prove that you can pay your fees and support yourself for the duration of your studies changed to pounds and brought in? 

Yes, they can shout to the roof to get the university to change their minds, which is great and well done to them but the Noise centred around Nigerian students is getting a tad bit annoying and is putting a stigma on Nigerians that can actually afford it. So let’s be realistic and stop making it seem like these universities are the devil out to get students. 

One even said he has been working 18 hours so that he can pay his £14,000 balance. Guy how?

New people hoping to come in should learn that if they cannot fully afford to pay for their fees, they should just forget about embarking on that journey.