Jamesclooney:


A number of issues with your post:
1. IMHO, You’re wrong! Even if it’s one person impacted by the fx crisis, it’s worth noting and being empathetic because no one can plan for that. Also for those who’s plan it was to pay fees with odd jobs in the UK, you’ll have little or no help if you decide to fall back on plan b of crowdfunding from friends and family back home because their Naira/assets lost tremendous value in a short space of time. So fx rate is still relevant.

2. You’re clueless saying fx rates applying to BSC alone because a good number of MSC students didn’t pay 100% at the start. Lots of people did deposit and then 30/30/40. Or whatever payment plan their university allowed them. For example, if I joined a programme Jan 2023, I’d pay my final instalment by Dec 2023, by then the new fx rates kicked in. I know someone who had a payment plan of £500/monthly running almost 12 months post graduation.

3. Based on the above, if that was my plan as it was obtainable for other students in the past and the university drastically changes their policy, why should I go back to Nigeria “quietly” so I don’t offend kwakudtraveller‘a sensibilities?
What do I have to lose? You can bet your bottom dollar I would make all the noise possible in the hope escalation leads to positive intervention and a solution. (Plus the empathy and understanding from compassionate people)

There is something you forgot to consider.
Unlike for undergrad studies, the 28- day PoF rule applies for masters studies differently.

Even if the university agrees on a £20 per month instalments, the UKVI requires an applicant to show evidence that they have 100% of the complete fees. For good measure, the UKVI insists that any PoF an applicant shows MUST be money that is available to the applicant for use whilst in the UK.
The problem is, an applicant shows this evidence. The money is there. In the bank. Visa is granted (based on the trust as per the PoF evidence). Then suddenly, the same student who showed ‘korokoro’ evidence now complains that forex fluctuations made them unable to pay fees? E get K-leg.

By the way, if the UK is serious about this, they can very easily implement the Belgium, Germany etc model of ‘Blocked accounts’

babajeje123:

School not responding to emails again.

That's a shame especially as he paid the outstanding fees.

Bukad:


What if they did MSc but switched visas to Health and Care before finishing the studies and still graduated and above 26 years?

Yes they can still qualify for the new entrant route if they graduated in the last 4 years.

Note that the new entrant visa is for a maximum of 4 years from the point of graduation, so the visa will only be allocated for the period left of the 4 years if that makes sense.

Zahra29:


Yes they can still qualify for the new entrant route if they graduated in the last 4 years.

Note that the new entrant visa is for a maximum of 4 years from the point of graduation, so the visa will only be allocated for the period left of the 4 years if that makes sense.

Makes a lot of sense. Thanks for this.

So for example, the person graduated from MSc say September 2023, even if on H and C visa before graduation, they can only use the new entrant route for any other skilled worker visa till September 2027.

But what happens after 2027, would they have to leave the job and look for another with 38k pay or be paid the going rate?

kwakudtraveller:

Running to the press isn’t doing as much good as it once did. This is election season and frankly they are only reinforcing the fact that the government needs to have stricter laws for students financial stability before they are granted their Tier 4 visa.

We don't always agree 🙈 but I'm 💯 on this post.

The reality is that the more articles there are of this nature, it desensitizes the issue and creates a false economy image of Nigerian students which will ultimately lead to more universities adopting stricter rules to ensure they get their money.

UK universities might begin to consider the overall benefit of courting certain international students if they then have to unenroll a significant proportion of them or they have to set up long winded payment plans or incur additional costs on admin/ agencies to chase collection of fees .

Bukad:


Makes a lot of sense. Thanks for this.

So for example, the person graduated from MSc say September 2023, even if on H and C visa before graduation, they can only use the new entrant route for any other skilled worker visa till September 2027.

But what happens after 2027, would they have to leave the job and look for another with 38k pay or be paid the going rate?

You're very welcome.

Correct, so after 2027 the idea is that they are no longer a new entrant and would be expected to have sufficient experience to qualify for the standard going rate or 38,700 salary (whichever is higher) for a skilled worker visa. Alternatively they have the option to switch back to a health and care visa.

Zahra29:


You're very welcome.

Correct, so after 2027 the idea is that they are no longer a new entrant and would be expected to have sufficient experience to qualify for the standard going rate or 38,700 salary (whichever is higher) for a skilled worker visa. Alternatively they have the option to switch back to a health and care visa.

So if they have dependents what happens to them after 2027 assuming they can't secure role of 38k 🤔

ReesheesuKnack:


There is something you forgot to consider.
Unlike for undergrad studies, the 28- day PoF rule applies for masters studies differently.

Even if the university agrees on a £20 per month instalments, the UKVI requires an applicant to show evidence that they have 100% of the complete fees. For good measure, the UKVI insists that any PoF an applicant shows MUST be money that is available to the applicant for use whilst in the UK.
The problem is, an applicant shows this evidence. The money is there. In the bank. Visa is granted (based on the trust as per the PoF evidence). Then suddenly, the same student who showed ‘korokoro’ evidence now complains that forex fluctuations made them unable to pay fees? E get K-leg.

By the way, if the UK is serious about this, they can very easily implement the Belgium, Germany etc model of ‘Blocked accounts’

They should have done this a long time ago tbh, but implementing it now would be akin to locking the stable door after the horses have bolted.

Their focus now is not to further discourage international students with stricter laws so it will be left to universities to decide their risk appetite and fee strategy. Some might tailor their approach based on nationality and risk of default and require students from those countries to pay a greater proportion of their fees upfront.

Bukad:


So if they have dependents what happens to them after 2027 assuming they can't secure role of 38k 🤔

It's a calculated risk decision they have to make.

If the current care dependant restrictions are still in force in 2027, then they would need to find a care/support worker role in the NHS or similar that allows dependants.

Zahra29:


It's a calculated risk decision they have to make.

If the current care dependant restrictions are still in force in 2027, then they would need to find a care/support worker role in the NHS or similar that allows dependants.

Many thanks for this breakdown.

@missjekyll, signs that this Labour party is not as pro-immigration as you might think:

Labour's health secretary wants to ban the NHS from recruiting from red list countries such as Nigeria and Zim - calls it immoral as these countries are dealing with increasing shortages of health care workers.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/wes-streeting-labour-ban-nhs-161432247.html

Streeting also said that Labour has no plans to reverse the dependant ban and that their focus is on recruiting and training workers in the UK

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/29/labour-has-no-plans-to-allow-health-worker-visas-to-include-family-members

seunoj:


Boss, the main reason for the demand for care visa by pple with families. With care visa, all na £2k but the road don cast.

I can see more clearly now ......👁️😞

Zahra29:


That's a shame especially as he paid the outstanding fees.

Sincerely! They opened his portal for 2 days after full payment and then closed it again.

Treadway:
lol. Just conjured a scene in my head...

Phone available in heaven and hell..

And a person in heaven can call his/her padi in hell, and say somefin like 'ha far padi! How is the afterlife treating ya?'

Lol

Pastor no wan go heaven 😂

Please who can put me through the visa application process? What documents would I need for the HCW visa. I have COS

Lexusgs430:


WHAT........😞🤔

£19,000 for only 5 years visa ....... Haba, the cost of immigration is equitable to paying a deposit on a mortgage + all other logistical cost ....... Loads of respect.....👍

He can come in with his wife then the children can come later. Also hope they have shift for him cos some people will come in then they will start telling them they don’t have shift.

kumbhuru:
Please who can put me through the visa application process? What documents would I need for the HCW visa. I have COS

Start here:
https://www.gov.uk/health-care-worker-visa

And jump in here:
https://www.gov.uk/health-care-worker-visa/documents-you-must-provide

RalphJean:


Start here:
https://www.gov.uk/health-care-worker-visa

And jump in here:
https://www.gov.uk/health-care-worker-visa/documents-you-must-provide

Bless you

Trendytessy:
Is it possible to apply for new visa to vary a processing one with the current student visa/BRP expired? I’ve been trying to apply for skilled worker visa but the UK ID app keeps saying wrong document and has locked me out of the app for 24hrs (I’m using BRP and same thing happened again today).

Is there another way to apply without using the app and can I apply with my BRP expired. It expired today.

Any responses will be appreciated. Experienced folks pls help

kumbhuru:
Please who can put me through the visa application process? What documents would I need for the HCW visa. I have COS

Kumbhuru??

kumbhuru:
Please who can put me through the visa application process? What documents would I need for the HCW visa. I have COS

lol, thought we are haters and I thought our mental health nurse is perfect and knows all

@Zahra29, na so the UK system weak so? See where our taxes and IHS going for God's sake. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13470893/Bulgaria-fraud-Britain-benefits-scam-detective-exposed-gang.html

babajeje123:
@Zahra29, na so the UK system weak so? See where our taxes and IHS going for God's sake. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13470893/Bulgaria-fraud-Britain-benefits-scam-detective-exposed-gang.html

Lol no system is completely foolproof and the fraudsters did run quite a sophisticated operation with a team spanning across the UK and Bulgaria.

Nevertheless the good news is they were eventually caught and have been sentenced (and most likely deported afterwards), and the government is making attempts to recover all the looted funds , even the assets in Bulgaria. Going forward there will be added scrutiny on applications from Bulgaria, Poland and the like to prevent such fraud from happening again.

Random post:

Sunak recently announced that he would seek to close down low quality university courses in favour of funding more apprenticeships. He also also stated that a university education is not essential to be successful.

Some people have interpreted this that Brits do not value higher education and the UK will soon "go down" as a result 🙄

However there are many vital vocations that do/did not require a university degree and are better obtained via apprenticeships - such as nursing, engineering, plumbing, construction and even data analysis.

Some people spend tens of thousands to acquire a paper certificate that adds no real value (other than being able to say you have a degree), while some choose to earn while they learn and come out with lower debt, valuable work experience and sought after skills that the country needs.

And did you know that 9 British prime ministers never went to university, including John Major who is still highly respected today and the famous war time PM Winston Churchill.

Zahra29 please i need clarity on something, for someone applying for student visa (undergraduate),does the person need to show maintenance for the 3yrs of study.
Please note that the fees have been paid.I just want to give the right info to the person in question.
Thank you

Zahra29:


We don't always agree 🙈 but I'm 💯 on this post.

The reality is that the more articles there are of this nature, it desensitizes the issue and creates a false economy image of Nigerian students which will ultimately lead to more universities adopting stricter rules to ensure they get their money.

UK universities might begin to consider the overall benefit of courting certain international students if they then have to unenroll a significant proportion of them or they have to set up long winded payment plans or incur additional costs on admin/ agencies to chase collection of fees .

Lol no be every time be fight na.

You are absolutely correct. Sentiments aside, universities aren't charities. It's still a business, and they cannot be operating at a loss.

Trendytessy:


Any responses will be appreciated. Experienced folks pls help

You should contact them ASAP. Have you tried to use your passport details instead?

hyzich:


lol, thought we are haters and I thought our mental health nurse is perfect and knows all

You need to rest in Jesus name. Hatred looks bad on you

ehizario2012:


Kumbhuru??

Hello

Ejid1:
Zahra29 please i need clarity on something, for someone applying for student visa (undergraduate),does the person need to show maintenance for the 3yrs of study.
Please note that the fees have been paid.I just want to give the right info to the person in question.
Thank you

Hi Ejid,

No they only need to show evidence of living costs/financial requirement for the 1st academic year (9 months) and attach proof of payment of the tuition fees.

kwakudtraveller:

You should contact them ASAP. Have you tried to use your passport details instead?

It doesn’t accept passport. I tried to capture my international passport but it said wrong document

Zahra29:


Hi Ejid,

No they only need to show evidence of living costs/financial requirement for the 1st academic year (9 months) and attach proof of payment of the tuition fees.

Thank you Zahra