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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 3:04pm On Jun 08
Ijebosb, I hope you don't lose appetite because of this.
4 was rescued

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 3:04pm On Jun 08
bemeruca:


These people will eat shit if a government entity from the left asked them to.

My argument all long has been that the virus exists in nature in bats, but was modified in a lab to test if it can infect humans. They were looking for a possible corona virus vaccine. Transhumanized mice. Then leaked to human beings by mistake or design?.
They 'quickly' came up with a vaccine. It would not have passed CDC/ FDA User Authorization if there was some drug (HCL/IVM )relieving or treating the infection. Hence the lies an demonizing the two drugs efficacy.
The pandemic served an important experience in how to manage the public through big tech and main stream media.

Some MIT scientist...
https://archive.is/cEv0Y
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 3:08pm On Jun 08
bemeruca:
Ijebosb, I hope you don't lose appetite because of this.

He is a Jew hater.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 3:14pm On Jun 08
budaatum:


I'm just glad that Biden is leaving the Supreme Court alone.
A lot of people disagree. The Supreme Court size is a norm. The question is what do you believe is more important, protecting a norm of 9 justices and lifetime appointments, or protecting people's rights such as a woman's right to have life saving surgery.

budaatum:

You made this personal by assuming the majority of Americans are not smart like you and will fall for maga nonsenses. Me, I have the personal faith that the majority of Americans are not that stupid, as confirmed by the last election and hopefully by the next.
You can't gain knowledge by osmosis. And how do you figure something out if you are presented misinformation? I believe that Education is the foundation of a Democracy. A lot of people in the US aren't getting that education. ANd the truth is repeated propaganda works, if it didn't we wouldn't see all the ads we do everywhere. The problem is that a majority of the US could get it and Biden wouold still lose as our elections are based on the Electoral College. And the spaces with the unfair electoral advantage are the least educated. This isn't a me thing, just look at the polls on people's beliefs on something as simple as the economy. Misinformation works. You shouldn't take it personally, but yes there are vast amount of Americans that are stupid and get easily fooled by misinformation. And those tend to be the loudest voice. It's the truth. And this thread isn't the outlier you think it is.

budaatum:

US has the silly notion of freedom of speech, and guns, both of which we definitely thankfully don't have. Would you like to migrate here perhaps?
Though we have free speech doesn't mean we can't stop protecting those who spread it. Places like Twitter can publish lies from people and not clean it up because of section 230, which gives them immunity. It may be time to tweak section 230. And also look into editing the libel/defamation laws.
I wanted to live in London after college. But my long term g/f at the time got into Harvard Law School. So stayed around for her. Probably worst decision I ever made. Never make plans for a woman who's not your wife.


budaatum:

1) If I were Biden, I'd beg Merchan.
As for enforcing the law, that is not Biden's duty, and him doing so would be an abuse of power. Besides, the law, slow as it may seem, is being enforced already.

Biden begging Meechan would be political interference. Even more egregious given the power imbalance and the interference into another branch of government. Biden shouldn't interfere either way.

As head of the Executive Branch, Biden's duty is to enforce the law. The DOJ falls under him. It's been norm that the President walls himself off given them independence, but Attorney General reports to him, so untested because of the Norm, but many people believe the President can dictate prosecutions.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 3:15pm On Jun 08
basilico:


My argument all long has been that the virus exists in nature in bats, but was modified in a lab to test if it can infect humans. They were looking for a possible corona virus vaccine. Transhumanized mice. Then leaked to human beings by mistake or design?.
They 'quickly' came up with a vaccine. It would not have passed CDC/ FDA User Authorization if there was some drug (HCL/IVM )relieving or treating the infection. Hence the lies an demonizing the two drugs efficacy.
The pandemic served an important experience in how to manage the public through big tech and main stream media.

Some MIT scientist...
https://archive.is/cEv0Y


Fauci and all the people behind this will see karma one day

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 3:32pm On Jun 08
Summary of Hunter trial.
Every claim of the defense seemed to collapse in the first two days of the trial. The defense argued that Hunter did not check the box on the gun form, so the prosecutors called the employee who watched him fill out the form. It claimed he was not using drugs at the time, so the prosecutors read texts from the next day in which Hunter sought to buy crack and called a series of witnesses on his continual use of crack during the period. The defense previously claimed the laptop showed evidence of tampering, so the prosecutor called a FBI agent establishing that there is no evidence of tampering and that the laptop is authentic. The defense claimed that Hunter just wandered into the store and was pressured to buy a gun, so prosecutors called an employee who testified that Hunter came in specifically wanting to buy a gun. As previously discussed, the lack of a defense is becoming glaringly obvious as is the nullification strategy.

Hunter is clearly guilty as charged.
He will walk like that lawyer Klinesmith.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 3:38pm On Jun 08
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 4:17pm On Jun 08
Amber rose says she is voting trump. She did her research.
https://twitter.com/TheThe1776/status/1799353619927691684?t=3iC9llEoBHmZDksj8tZfvA&s=19
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 5:22pm On Jun 08
This is human rights abuse of 3 innocent people.
If you burn the American flag you are considered a hero

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1799107067845980211?t=FTvCnMcFbxLb8ozpfbS6Sg&s=19
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:46pm On Jun 08
budaatum:


US has the silly notion of freedom of speech, and guns, both of which we definitely thankfully don't have. Would you like to migrate here perhaps?


Budaatum has a problem with you having free speech. My body my choice is silly in this scenario.
But the quote below shows how confused he is
budaatum:


For now though, no way would I be letting your sort tell me what I do with the content of my womb. It's my body my choice.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 9:00pm On Jun 08
ijebosb:


Even when Biden wins this election, this election cycle would have taken its toll on the US. Trump has effectively destroyed Trust in the Media, US law enforcement, the Presidency, and now the courts. Look at what is going on with Trump's trials. The Supreme Court, a Federal Judge (Judge Cannon) and a State Supreme court (Georgia Supreme Court) have all put their hands on the scales of justice to delay his trials. That Alito was flying flags supporting Jan 6th is nuts on its own. In another time he would resign. At the minimum, he would recuse himself from any Trump case. Neither has happened.

Trump with the support of a sycophantic Republican party is destroying the appendages of what makes the US the US. The court is the most worrisome one. I don't believe the Dems are strong enough to counter it. Worrisome days ahead.

US politicians are so compromised in more than one ways, and rampant beuracracy has made the Senate be issuing threats than outright subpoena to Clarence and alito. I believe one of these judges will be impeached next year.

But in my whole heart, convicted felon trump is losing in historic fashion this fall, trust me. Some of my friends are feeling hesitant that Dems are not attacking the convict where it hurts but I tell them that they are a bit reaching because The Biden campaign has been maintaining a sustained attack, and really hard ones. Also Dems in the house in all the hearings have disgraced the convicted felon trump Tru out right from the jim jordan new york crime conference trash.

Even if God forbid President Biden got replaced by a kitchen knife one month to the election, convicted felon trump will lose so magnificently.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 9:02pm On Jun 08
bemeruca:
Amber rose says she is voting trump. She did her research.
https://twitter.com/TheThe1776/status/1799353619927691684?t=3iC9llEoBHmZDksj8tZfvA&s=19

a low quality individual like you would think amber rose is a house of reason. OMG, maga cultists are so dumb na wa oo 😁😂😂😭😅
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 9:35pm On Jun 08
ijebosb:

A lot of people disagree.
And isn't that why we have democracy, to sort out what we do despite our differences and disagreement?

ijebosb:

The Supreme Court size is a norm. The question is what do you believe is more important, protecting a norm of 9 justices and lifetime appointments, or protecting people's rights such as a woman's right to have life saving surgery.

The supreme court said the state should decide whether to protect people's rights such as a woman's right to have life saving surgery, which means the majority people in the state get to decide whether to protect people's rights such as a woman's right to have life saving surgery. But in the current end, it boils down to my body my choice, since no one can stop me leaving a state where I am in a minority and go to a state where I am part of the majority. That, is democracy at work.

Now, if Biden would do me good, he'd put my body my choice in the constitution so states can't take over my body. But I guess he'd find it difficult getting past federalism and state autonomy.

ijebosb:
I believe that Education is the foundation of a Democracy. A lot of people in the US aren't getting that education.

Now, that's a pity, that a lot if people in the US aren't getting that education.

Happened in Nigeria too by the way. A lot of people did not get educated by Buhari's APC hardship and elected Tinubu's APC who is now educating us on his own even worse hardship.

I hope we learn, but if we don't and behave again like turkeys voting for more APC Christmas, I guess we'd just be repeating the class and our education continues, I say.

ijebosb:
The problem is that a majority of the US could get it and Biden wouold still lose as our elections are based on the Electoral College. And the spaces with the unfair electoral advantage are the least educated.
Its gerrymandering. And it makes USA seem undemocratic in my view. But it is at it is until we amend the constitution I'm afraid. Pity Biden isn't looking to change it already

ijebosb:
yes there are vast amount of Americans that are stupid and get easily fooled by misinformation. And those tend to be the loudest voice. It's the truth. And this thread isn't the outlier you think it is.
Loudest voices, but still one vote each. And yes, this thread isn't the outlier. I got Newsmaxx, Infowars, OAN and Fox on my telly talking the same ignorant stupid qanon 2000mules rubbish, and there's many on Twitter and a reddit and that dump's failing Lies Social. And almost half the country showed they are stupid, so I ought to know this thread and others like it here aren't outliers. My hope is they continue to be the minority they were at the last election, and the next election would let me know if they are or not.

ijebosb:
Though we have free speech doesn't mean we can't stop protecting those who spread it.
I don't want to protect those spreading lies. What I want to be done is have them charged to court and be found guilty and fined a la Alex Jones and dump and Guiliani and Sidney Powell and Bannon et al. I gain much pleasure when the jail time and money they are being asked to pay results in them going bankrupt and imprisoned.

ijebosb:
Biden begging Meechan would be political interference.
I know it is. Still, as soon as dump is jailed by Merchan, Biden should beg the state governor for dump's release. The humiliation would make my day.

ijebosb:
As head of the Executive Branch, Biden's duty is to enforce the law. The DOJ falls under him. It's been norm that the President walls himself off given them independence, but Attorney General reports to him, so untested because of the Norm, but many people believe the President can dictate prosecutions.
See above where I am asking Biden to illegally jump over the wall and free dump, lol.

I'd hate it though if Biden jumped over that same wall and weaponised the DOJ to prosecute dump.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 10:09pm On Jun 08
budaatum:

And isn't that why we have democracy, to sort out what we do despite our differences and disagreement?


The supreme court said the state should decide whether to protect people's rights such as a woman's right to have life saving surgery, which means the majority people in the state get to decide whether to protect people's rights such as a woman's right to have life saving surgery. But in the current end, it boils down to my body my choice, since no one can stop me leaving a state where I am in a minority and go to a state where I am part of the majority. That, is democracy at work.

Do you think slavery should have been left up to the states to decide?
In fact, states rights was the very argument used to try to prevent the end of slavery by Southern States.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 10:11pm On Jun 08
Obrigardo:


US politicians are so compromised in more than one ways, and rampant beuracracy has made the Senate be issuing threats than outright subpoena to Clarence and alito. I believe one of these judges will be impeached next year.

I'd settle for at the minimum a real hearing. Our courts are the differentiator between us and other countries. The Dems have to take this seriously and fight for it.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 10:29pm On Jun 08
ijebosb:


Do you think slavery should have been left up to the states to decide?
In fact, states rights was the very argument used to try to prevent the end of slavery by Southern States.

And then we fought a war. And slavery is not even left to a country these days not to talk of a state.

Slaves couldn't just up from those states and go to states where there were free people like I can take my body out of a state that wants to own my choice, so sorry, I don't see them as being the same thing. When they run after me and jail me for my choice, we can equate them then.

In fact, I would love those who want to own my body to be stupid and jail me for my choice so I can Rosa Park their stupid asses or even go to war, though I feel the majority would vote them out long before then or a Biden might put my body my choice in to the constitution.

In fact, the way the world is currently leaning, I wouldn't be surprised if one day in the future, my body my choice isn't eventually a right enshrined in the world constitution just like antislavery is. I just hope its sooner rather than not soon.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:22am On Jun 09
bemeruca:
Ijebosb, I hope you don't lose appetite because of this.
4 was rescued

Probably angry that Israel dared to rescue their citizen when his Hamas friends refused to release them
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 4:31am On Jun 09
raumdeuter:


Probably angry that Israel dared to rescue their citizen when his Hamas friends refused to release them

they were held in part by the Palestinian people. So the people. it is not the first time. some of the ones that was released complained that they were held by UNWRA teachers, this recently rescued hostages said Palestinian civilians were involved in holding them hostage.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 8:25am On Jun 09
ijebosb:

ANd the truth is repeated propaganda works, ..

I think you say the above based on the sort of magas here who love their conspiracies.

Most will do some research instead of just believing the maga propaganda they are fed.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 8:47am On Jun 09
bemeruca:


they were held in part by the Palestinian people. So the people. it is not the first time. some of the ones that was released complained that they were held by UNWRA teachers, this recently rescued hostages said Palestinian civilians were involved in holding them hostage.

Hamas is Palestinian and Palestinians are Hamas. Palestinians are fatah , black September and PLO from the cradle to the grave.
If the world recognized that, there would be chance for peace.The world should stop pressuring a two state solution for Israel with a people who want to exterminate them. Lay that fact on the table, then ignore the Palestinians in all ways till they wholeheartedly agree to coexist with Israel.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 8:55am On Jun 09
budaatum:


And then we fought a war. And slavery is not even left to a country these days not to talk of a state.

Slaves couldn't just up from those states and go to states where there were free people like I can take my body out of a state that wants to own my choice, so sorry, I don't see them as being the same thing. When they run after me and jail me for my choice, we can equate them then.

In fact, I would love those who want to own my body to be stupid and jail me for my choice so I can Rosa Park their stupid asses or even go to war, though I feel the majority would vote them out long before then or a Biden might put my body my choice in to the constitution.

In fact, the way the world is currently leaning, I wouldn't be surprised if one day in the future, my body my choice isn't eventually a right enshrined in the world constitution just like antislavery is. I just hope its sooner rather than not soon.

I don't think you understand my body my choice. Noone has a problem with that. Let baby murderers go on unabated, as long as they are paying for it themselves.
Govts can provide IUDs, condoms, depo provera, sterilization, pills, castration, hysterectomies, sex ed on abstinence & coitus interruptus & safe/fertile days, cervical rings, burdizzos, pliers, etc.
Govts should not pay for abortion unless its for medical emergencies. Or incest or rape. Strictly case by case basis.
Abortion is not a human right that's enshrined in the constitution like the right to assemble or education.
You miss the point by a fuckin mile.
You think Govts can also promote lesbianism, homosexuality, masturbation because these cant lead to pregnancy?
Ive done my research, noone is born gay
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:24am On Jun 09
The trans shooter who killed pupils and a teacher manifesto has been released. They dilly dallied because it would hurt the trans community.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13505849/Nashville-school-shooter-Audrey-Hale-trans-kill-puberty-blockers.html

She needed counselling, obviously brainwashed by such nonsense as being born in the wrong body
She wished for a dick so she would bang women , was ready to kill in order to get puberty blockers.
In the narrow writings, she used federal grants to buy her guns.
The gun was the problem its always the problem , never the shooter's upbringing, exposures or schooling.
Add in Christian parents, it becomes worse. Nonsense.

Had there been an action as this one below, maybe that massacre would not have occured, she would have tbought twice hopefully about the indoctrination

Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry (R) signed a bill on Wednesday requiring transgender individuals to use restrooms and public facilities that match their biological sex, which will take effect on August 1.

HB608 is called “The Women’s Safety and Protection Act,” WBRZ reported, adding:

HB608, authored by Rep. Roger Wilder, R-Denham Springs, will segregate all bathrooms, changing and locker rooms, as well as sleeping quarters by sex in public schools, domestic violence shelters and correctional facilities. This would prohibit transgender people from using facilities that align with their gender identity.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 12:52pm On Jun 09
basilico:


Govts should not pay for abortion unless its for medical emergencies. Or incest or rape.

You need to educate yourself.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyde_Amendment

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 1:42pm On Jun 09
budaatum:


You need to educate yourself.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyde_Amendment

Look like without your input, I hold the same views as Hyde.
Imma genious
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 1:47pm On Jun 09
bemeruca:


they were held in part by the Palestinian people. So the people. it is not the first time. some of the ones that was released complained that they were held by UNWRA teachers, this recently rescued hostages said Palestinian civilians were involved in holding them hostage.

One of the freed hostages was held in the home of a photo journalist

https://www.nairaland.com/8119287/noa-argamani-israeli-hostage-held
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 1:48pm On Jun 09
basilico:


Hamas is Palestinian and Palestinians are Hamas. Palestinians are fatah , black September and PLO from the cradle to the grave.
If the world recognized that, there would be chance for peace.The world should stop pressuring a two state solution for Israel with a people who want to exterminate them. Lay that fact on the table, then ignore the Palestinians in all ways till they wholeheartedly agree to coexist with Israel.

Israel is fighting for survival. No country should be in that position.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 1:48pm On Jun 09
raumdeuter:


One of the freed hostages was held in the home of a photo journalist
Abdallah aljamah.


Imagine that
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 1:53pm On Jun 09
budaatum:


I think you say the above based on the sort of magas here who love their conspiracies.

Most will do some research instead of just believing the maga propaganda they are fed.


How do you advocate for my body my choice for abortion but not for freedom of speech? Why do you want people to be free to have abortion but not be free to have freedom of speech?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 2:19pm On Jun 09
bemeruca:


How do you advocate for my body my choice for abortion but not for freedom of speech? Why do you want people to be free to have abortion but not be free to have freedom of speech?

I am not against freedom of speech. I am against you claiming to use your so called freedom of speech to knowingly tell lies about others and thereby make life miserable for them.

And that is why I buda sitting as the judge and the jury in the State of Connecticut in the United States of America that has a First Amendment that protects freedom of speech found Alex Jones conduct particularly reprehensible and harmful, and fined him one billion dollars so that you know and are deterred from using your so called freedom of speech to spread malicious lies about others.

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/03/1115414563/alex-jones-sandy-hook-case

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/02/1115269280/sandy-hook-alex-jones-trial

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/10/12/alex-jones-sandy-hook-shooting/
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 2:24pm On Jun 09
basilico:


Look like without your input, I hold the same views as Hyde.
Imma genious

So, do you see the lie in your statement, that government funds abortions, when they haven't since 1980?

When we say, 'my body my choice', it includes 'my money' too. Because, if we decided to wait for government to pay for it, they might not pay at all or pay in the 10th month.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 3:13pm On Jun 09
budaatum:


I am not against freedom of speech. I am against you claiming to use your so called freedom of speech to knowingly tell lies about others and thereby make life miserable for them.

And that is why I buda sitting as the judge and the jury in the State of Connecticut in the United States of America that has a First Amendment that protects freedom of speech found Alex Jones conduct particularly reprehensible and harmful, and fined him one billion dollars so that you know and are deterred from using your so called freedom of speech to spread malicious lies about others.

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/03/1115414563/alex-jones-sandy-hook-case

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/02/1115269280/sandy-hook-alex-jones-trial

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/10/12/alex-jones-sandy-hook-shooting/

you are not against freedom of speech but you are against freedom of speech. your confusion is still high and we need to reduce it.

your quote below is dealing with free speech in general not the one from the idiot Alex Jones.
budaatum:

US has the silly notion of freedom of speech, and guns, both of which we definitely thankfully don't have. Would you like to migrate here perhaps?


so looking at your quote above, How do you have an issue with free speech in general and still believe " MY BODY MY CHOICE " below
budaatum:


For now though, no way would I be letting your sort tell me what I do with the content of my womb. It's my body my choice.


you want to kill babies with no government control but you want the government to control what people say.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 3:15pm On Jun 09
budaatum:


So, do you see the lie in your statement, that government funds abortions, when they haven't since 1980?

When we say, 'my body my choice', it includes 'my money' too. Because, if we decided to wait for government to pay for it, they might not pay at all or pay in the 10th month.

I said govt funds should not be used, I didn't say they are.
Most vocal proponents of abortion are more likely not evangelicals or people of the cross. They are liberals.
Hmm. Lets see who would really like abortion on demand, no questions upto an including just sending abortion pills via mail.Top three on my list.
Epstein clients. Rich people who dont want them known for sleeping with let alone impregnating under ages.
Pimps. A pregnant hooker or sex slave means less hourly rate or at worst an indictment.
Hollyweirdos and Celebs. For obvious reasons. They have casting couches, plus many make a lot of money with plenty of time to involve themselves in debauchery.

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