Naa poor man they japa they are well to do and go and come anytime they want

teebaxy:
Next is Japa to America with his family

Skydivine:
People would say he proposed the parish under the grace of the GO . However, they must be something in him that attracts super rich people.
Someone that has dined and wine with mighty of the society is not just an everyday guy. He is not a push over.
Envy is the bedrock of this backlash. So many woujd want that position but a very few can sustain it .
May God not let us build for another to occupy.

He actually is a well to do man before he started pastoring RCCG, City of David, the rich where in the church before he became the pastor of that particular church. RCCG is structured to stand with or without any pastor. I pray he remains with the church and not allow the multitude to sway him away. A very nice man, likewise his wife very nice couple. All pastors in RCCG are advised to be extra careful in order not to bring reproach to the church. People should just allow the Illuyomade's to breathe...

SavageResponse:


Well the church leadership is not angry with him because he invited Flavour to his wife's birthday bash, the main reason they are angry with him is the timing and flamboyance of the birthday party considering the fact that a major financial pillar of the church died in an accident less than a month before the party.

That party was very insensitive and disrespectful considering that almost the entire family of a very important parishioner was wiped out in one fell swoop!

I think this is the crux of the matter. I doubt RCCG will make a move to remove him if powerful members of the church didn't request it. Adeboye only approved it.
The decision to have him removed must have come from within the church itself.
If above is the case, then Pastor ID goofed. As a pastor of such powerful church, U have to be highly sensitive to the feelings of your members. U should also avoid decisions that polarize the church because the outcome is always controversial.

I pray the church pull through this challenge because major actions like this could split that church or even tear it down.

Maxymilliano:
Next move is to float his own mega church like Ituah Ighodalo

He left the redeemed church also ?

gtassure:

What's wrong with flavour? Dunsin etc are for spirit, Flavour is for entertainment and happiness!

Lol. I'm not that religious but people like you are the reasons we think Christianity is a big joke this days.

I can remember that even the Bible made it clear that people with spiritual calling were to abstain from secular attractions as much as possible. Eg Sons of Levi were restricted from receiving inheritance. Bible even talks about vessels set apart for holy use. There are certain things someone with a spiritual office should not entangle himself with, else he becomes ordinary. There are even rules in the new testament for someone who is to become a Bishop/Pastor

Just imagine entrusting your spiritual care into someone that craves the secular world as much as you do. Tomorrow he will come to tell you that God spoke to him . You guys make me laugh. Clowns.

JohnBullMySon:


Lol. I'm not that religious but people like you are the reasons we think Christianity is a big joke this days.

I can remember that even the Bible made it clear that people with spiritual calling were to abstain from secular attractions as much as possible. Eg Sons of Levi were restricted from receiving inheritance. Bible even talks about vessels set apart for holy use. There are certain things someone with a spiritual office should not entangle himself with, else he becomes ordinary. There are even rules in the new testament for someone who is to become a Bishop/Pastor

Just imagine entrusting your spiritual care into someone that craves the secular world as much as you do. Tomorrow he will come to tell you that God spoke to him . You guys make me laugh. Clowns.

You are just a bigot! "Music is the food for the soul." Spirituality have nothing to do with music!
Bigot
One who is narrow-mindedly devoted to their own ideas and groups, and intolerant of (people of) differing ideas, races, genders, religions, politics, etc.

DMCY:


But we all know why he was transferred, don’t we?

sure we do, he should take it good faith. Join another church or start his own. He will always get followers

How are the mighty fallen.

AdesegunSanni89:
This man should go further and convert that VI church into his own ministry. Redeem likes to use and dump. Oga no gree for them o

How was he used and dumped, talking nonsense sometimes has becomes the other of the day.
Let him convert it naa if he can be able to pay the 1billion Hubert Nwigwe loaned to the church and a also account for other money other people donated what it was used for.

An elderly man once told me that " Don't ever allow your wife to always have her way especially when it's regarding your survival, career or family" Think very well about every action and act accordingly to spirit that can never go wrong.

This woman pushed this Simp of a Pastor into this disaster. The simp pastor might have told her to relax and make it a small celebration or even postpone it but some Women with their greedy behaviour as this Siju, must have shed crocodile tears and cajole the Sim, lilly liver, naive Pastor into accepting her to hold the celebration according to her wish. If it was her father or brother that died or even her simp of a husband fake pastor that died, will she still go ahead to hold that elaborate Owanbe party? Most aren't worth a face value of what we take them for especially all these fake and prosperity quoting Pastors.

naptu2:


https://thestreetjournal.org/idowu-iluyomade-resigns-pastoral-appointment-with-rccg/

Appletek:



For a lady, you're too dumb. So disappointed.

The Bible contains the rules and regulations of the church. Please read it.

Wotowotoman:


No time to read your epistle but I saw ‘Jesus dined…’. So I wan ask if na the same way Baba GO drink tea with Baba God

The Bible contains the rules and regulations of the church. Please read it and stop expecting pastors to compromise in order to please church financiers.

Bamss1:
Someone was trying to justify that preparation for the party has long been in motion before the Wigwe's demise and lots if money was already spent.
But why invite flavor? As a senior pastor why flavor? Wetin do Dunsin, frank, tope alabi Or even Sunny Ade?
It was just a show of gross insensitivity

You're very correct. I call it lack of discretion on his part..I am not their member but I was very irked with the event then..A young man in ur church dies with his wife and son in a tragic accident, then their pastor throws a party because it was already planned before..I was honestly disappointed in him and if you watch him closely, it seems his wife somehow had a strong hold on him..I stand to be corrected though..
Transferring pastors from one branch to another is NORMAL and it's should be a routine exercise, so why resigned? I knew he would but something in me hope he wouldn't and he will take it as a lesson to grow and be a better person..He would have taken it, imbibe the lesson and take it as though God is teaching him a lesson... He missed a rare opportunity to reconcile with his maker...
For the rest of us, pls take stock, review the kind of place you worship, ask questions, don't be a fool! Christendom is serious biz in Nig.

sweetrace:


The Bible contains the rules and regulations of the church. Please read it and stop expecting pastors to compromise in order to please church financiers.

I’m only asking if baba GO drank tea with God the way Jesus dined with sinners. Abi can I find it in the Bible

Praxis758:



Iluyomade isn’t a Pentecostal Christian, he’s a charismatic guy.

RCCG has two strains of parishes: the ones with core Pentecostal believe and those with charismatic believe.

Parishes like city of David are charismatic with no iota of Pentecostal values/belief.

We are getting it wrong by mixing Pentecostal and charismatic churches together. Winners, Christ Embassy, House on the Rock, Covenant Nations etc are Charismatic denominations while Deeper Life, MFM, Assemblies of God, GOFAMINT etc are Pentecostal denominations.

There’s sense in this analysis of yours. Nice one.

gtassure:

You are just a bigot! "Music is the food for the soul." Spirituality have nothing to do with music!
Bigot
One who is narrow-mindedly devoted to their own ideas and groups, and intolerant of (people of) differing ideas, races, genders, religions, politics, etc.

Spirituality has nothing to do with music but yet Lucifer was a musician?!

Omo! You’re lost and don’t even know.

Saao:
is not possible, I use to be an admin in rccg and minister, I can bet you as small as parish or area or zone or provincial level is not possible, then talk of regional level. Rccg is one of the most organise church in Nigeria if not in the world. Even a pen bought for rccg, will be receipted in the name of rccg. Their are processes both manual and digital that goes on in rccg you may not understand. That idea is not possible

Do you know that the land even has a pending litigation on it?
Are you aware that they paid the Oniru Chieftaincy family twice after initially buying the land?

In whose name did they take the loan to build the church? You think it was in the name of RCCG? Abi RCCG told you that they gave) paid back any loan?
Dey play

Are you aware that when Mama Adeboye asked that Pastors wives cover their hair in church, Siju Iluyomade openly flouted this directive repeatedly.
In the parishes where you were an admin, how many Pastor's wives were opening their hair in church while ministering?

Baba, you can argue all you want but when lawyers start bringing our documents, you will turn around to blame RCCG for allowing these guys buy that land in their name.

luluman:
I agree with you on this. Men of God should not do worldly music.

I have a different view on this thou. Define worldly?

jmichael259:


First of all, the(se) church(es) na business.
And I just mentioned the bank MDs as colleagues in Wigwe's sector incase you didn't understand that.

Most importantly nobody is more important in Christianity. The fact that a rich man died doesn't and shouldn't affect others including Pastors being punished for doing their wedding or birthdays. A particular date on the calendar wouldn't disappear or shift because anybody died.
Do you cry for this your social norms and etiquette for other church members that died or it's only the rich that'll enter God's kingdom.
What are we even talking about, it is the wife of the pastor's birthday. She has her own separate life to live and it was hosted outside of the church. Her husband being with her doesn't change the fact because Whatever your employee does outside of your premises and working time with his own personal space and time is beyond your jurisdiction!! For f#ck sakes

It is fine if you think they are businesses . While I agree that some are , not all are . It is a shame what is happening but not all churches are like that.

However we should reason that if any member of the church dies( rich or poor)) , it is expected that the church leadership show empathy and restraints during such periods . The pastor’s wife is a reflection of the pastor . Anything she does falls back on her husband . Almost a whole family died ! I have lost loved ones and I couldn’t do much for two weeks. Nothing stops any member of the church to celebrate their birthdays . But with leadership comes a greater responsibility .

I understand your argument from a business perspective . But churches are not businesses according to the laws of this country .

That is much glorious now thqt the ovation is still loud.

Start another church, church seems successful but crash within a year.

wallrichy:
An elderly man once told me that " Don't ever allow your wife to always have her way especially when it's regarding your survival, career or family" Think very well about every action and act accordingly to spirit that can never go wrong.

This woman pushed this Simp of a Pastor into this disaster. The simp pastor might have told her to relax and make it a small celebration or even postpone it but some Women with their greedy behaviour as this Siju, must have shed crocodile tears and cajole the Sim, lilly liver, naive Pastor into accepting her to hold the celebration according to her wish. If it was her father or brother that died or even her simp of a husband fake pastor that died, will she still go ahead to hold that elaborate Owanbe party? Most aren't worth a face value of what we take them for especially all these fake and prosperity quoting Pastors.

An insider, not confirmed though, said his wife had a 'hold on him'..if you're married and you observed them closely you might agreed...if madam insisted on going ahead, oga should not have attended..He should have just attend the service and ignore d reception.That singular action would have sent a strong signal to HQ...when Nig judiciary was still very intact, you don't see judges in parties, you hardly see them in social event..My Uncle, a judge gave her daughters hand in marriage, after church service, baba returned home while the rest of the family proceed to reception..You must be discreet about somethings..You must be able to READ your environment and act wisely, all the times.... Where I worship, overseers can be posted anytime, anywhere! Lagos to Maiduguri, Maiduguri to America and vice versa..You are supposed to make disciples, you're not supposed to be too comfy...It's should be ROUTINE...

sweetrace:

The Bible contains the rules and regulations of the church. Please read it.

Is smoking a sin?
Is smoking referred to as a sin in the Bible?

Not everything is Bible. Use your brain to think.

This is a typical example of how the woman you marry can make or marr you. That is why as a man marry a woman that is not stubborn & listens to reason. I am sure that pastor would have told his wife to calm down but she no gree so him sef align. Now loot at it.

blaise26abj:


It is fine if you think they are businesses . While I agree that some are , not all are . It is a shame what is happening but not all churches are like that.

However we should reason that if any member of the church dies( rich or poor)) , it is expected that the church leadership show empathy and restraints during such periods . The pastor’s wife is a reflection of the pastor . Anything she does falls back on her husband . Almost a whole family died ! I have lost loved ones and I couldn’t do much for two weeks. Nothing stops any member of the church to celebrate their birthdays . But with leadership comes a greater responsibility .

I understand your argument from a business perspective . But churches are not businesses according to the laws of this country .

I'm not discussing laws of the land neither was it why you retorted with the question.

Stop over flogging the issue. I've lost family members (husband and wife) in plane crash here in Nigeria, full families are dieing everyday in road crashes or home disasters, does their church members get roasted like una wan roast this family untop Wigwe matter?

If the pope dies, will all catholic mass, weddings, church festivals be cancelled for that week?

What this man's wife does in her secular time outside the premises of the church is none of the church's business neither does it concern the Wigwe family most especially, it doesn't concern all of you internet in-laws and holy holy judges

Appletek:


The land wasn't bought in the name of RCCG.

I don't think so.

teekay213:
why didn't your daddy G.O go to villages to preach or even Afghanistan. Do you know how Rome became a Vatican city today? Because the apostles and others laid down their lives

Foolish question ...

GO started gospel journey in the village and he still goes to the village to preach the gospel till tomorrow...and I'm sure if need be he will willing go to the village to preach the gospel.....However for adminstrative purposes he oversees the affair of the churches ....from the headquarters....and the headquarters used to be village in Lagos state and the new headquarters in Ogun state is still a village
Apart from Convention and Holy ghost programme which made the place busy ....if you visit the place ..at night you will truly know that it is a village where big reptiles and other deadly animals resides ..



Now, do you think it is logical for Tinubu to be leading the country from the village ?



Now ask yourself

I was thinking sometime ago that dis man fit resign O

The transfer him from cbn to mfb

Lolzzzzz 🤣

Oga no fit hold am, agba resign

jmichael259:


I'm not discussing laws of the land neither was it why you retorted with the question.

Stop over flogging the issue. I've lost family members (husband and wife) in plane crash here in Nigeria, full families are dieing everyday in road crashes or home disasters, does their church members get roasted like una wan roast this family untop Wigwe matter?

If the pope dies, will all catholic mass, weddings, church festivals be cancelled for that week?

What this man's wife does in her secular time outside the premises of the church is none of the church's business neither does it concern the Wigwe family most especially, it doesn't concern all of you internet in-laws and holy holy judges

Lolzzzzz 🤣

When wigwe na their church cash cow na

That resignay was very unnecessary

Now later if this man starts saying nonsense about the church people will be saying it's true.

Lots of Nigerians christains are not Christlike pastors included.

If you cannot take discipline, you really are not a christain.

Ordinary posting - resignation lool.

If it were some other churches Gan just for his wife inviting flavor to her birthday. Both of them will be suspended and sit at the back of the church for long and he will do it in good fate because it's discipline.

G. Os are trying honestly. When churches begin to grow with many branches different fruits begin to yield, the wolves will join the sheep and the greedy nature of Nigerians begin to show. How many places G. O want to be.

jmichael259:


I'm not discussing laws of the land neither was it why you retorted with the question.

Stop over flogging the issue. I've lost family members (husband and wife) in plane crash here in Nigeria, full families are dieing everyday in road crashes or home disasters, does their church members get roasted like una wan roast this family untop Wigwe matter?

If the pope dies, will all catholic mass, weddings, church festivals be cancelled for that week?

What this man's wife does in her secular time outside the premises of the church is none of the church's business neither does it concern the Wigwe family most especially, it doesn't concern all of you internet in-laws and holy holy judges

Then we deserve the leaders without empathy we have in this country with your mindset . Apparently you have no idea what leadership is .

Sorry about your loss. Imagine the mom of the husband that died in the plane did a big party shortly after the plane crash . Or the board of the bank throws a party a couple of weeks after he died .How would you take it ?

You keep arguing for argument sake with zero point . No one has said a thing about church members activities . We are talking about church leadership !

See whatever rocks your boat .