missjekyll:


You know what this means ,don't you? Far from interesting, the rise of the far right is a calamity for anyone who is not white, male,Christian or straight.

They have previous form for deadly persecution. I am usually very open to other ideas but I do not understand their supporters on this thread, to be frank.

humblemoi:


Your question is quite vague. Could you clarify what extension this is for? Visa extension? Or Passport renewal? Let's start from there.

missjekyll:


The French have been offering to do this for years but the tories want immigration to keep being an issue.

https://www.france24.com/en/france/20211129-french-minister-urges-uk-to-open-legal-migration-route-amid-channel-crisis

Did you not know about France's offer, Rishi? I m happy to have helped clear it up this morning.

Lexusgs430:


Are you an experienced grower......🤣😂

missjekyll:


You know what this means ,don't you? Far from interesting, the rise of the far right is a calamity for anyone who is not white, male,Christian or straight.

They have previous form for deadly persecution. I am usually very open to other ideas but I do not understand their supporters on this thread, to be frank.

stephoye:
Hi all. My dependants will expire in November and I want to apply for extension. Can I apply now or I need to wait until August when their visa is 3 months before expiration?

Gerrard59:


Proper upbringing and once in a while living in Nigeria are the best ways to go about preventing such. They need to see how and what the alternatives look like. On the other hand, they need to see/experience that there are other ways black people succeed rather than the few means in the UK. I believe it is important for black kids raised in societies with few black people to live and experience life in black-dominated societies and see that it is possible to thrive in any condition.



With a British passport, you are almost a global citizen. Nigeria should not be your only option and is not the only black-dominated country. There is South Africa, the Cayman Islands, Barbados, Ghana etc., depending on how your investments grow. If it gets too big, there is Hong Kong and Singapore.

Raalsalghul:


Never would have imagined you were single from your write ups, experience and exposure.

missjekyll:


You know what this means ,don't you? Far from interesting, the rise of the far right is a calamity for anyone who is not white, male,Christian or straight.

They have previous form for deadly persecution. I am usually very open to other ideas but I do not understand their supporters on this thread, to be frank.

Cyberknight:


It's the broad church in operation.

There are the people who people who feel the UK is changing too much too fast due to immigration, the low tax advocates who feel they dont want to pay taxes to support the feckless, the so-called libertarians who believe that they should be free to do whatever they want without regulation, the social conservatives who take sides in any culture war going, etc., etc. Point is - its a wide spectrum of people and people are happy to espouse any party/candidate who appears to be travelling part of the way in which they'd like to go, even if they're not going the whole way.

Same tensions exist everywhere - lots of religious blue collar black voters in the US left the Dems due to gay marriage and things like that.

missjekyll:


This 1 case is not enough to truncate the experiences of thousands of trans people. He was clearly a predator. The trans thing was just incidental.

Yes, the country will certainly be better off with an extra 1.3 billion pounds . It's not nothing. Otherwise that 1.3 billion will be raised from you and I . I ve had enough of tax rises.

jedisco:


Hehe.
First, most immigrants are from conservative backgrounds and would be largely opposed to most things around LGBTQ. But then, there need to be some common sense decisions around certain things.

Secondly, I find it interesting that over the last few pages on the elections, the focus has been on vat for private schools. If just 7 % of kids are in private schools, the ratio of Nigerian immigrants whose kids would go to private schools would be very low. 1-2% at most. I.e, this would hardly affect us as a community. Personally, if I had kids here, I would look to send them to grammar or private schools. I factored this in when buying a property and had to buy in a town with a good number of well-rated fee paying schools. Even at that, I'm not opposed to the idea. Private schooling is increasingly becoming a status symbol and some vat on that is fair game. One might argue other areas e.g healthcare- the answer is simple. No tax is universally 'fair'. Every nation decides on what to tax and what not to.

My main concern is that the money raised would likely be wasted on some 'new shiny project' in state schools that would later be scrapped. Seen this happen too many times in the NHS. Finally, don't be surprised the number of children in private schools will keep rising despite this change. The psychology around items seen as luxury is very much different from essentials.

Cyberknight:


You can apply at any time. Probably not a bad idea to do it now before the Tories/Labour/Reform/various combinations of the above take control and start to slash at immigration.

oluwaleokey:
Biko... you guys are just pushing me around with these arguments... lets sentiments be put aside and critically analyze who's the best suitable candidate/party to vote considering flexible suitable immigration policies.

Can you just put heads together, to select a candidate that would likely favour immigrants... I wish to vote a "Peter Obi" kinda candidate... if not I would gladly opt to "to-mbom to-mbom" method to cast my vote.

oluwaleokey:
Biko... you guys are just pushing me around with these arguments... lets sentiments be put aside and critically analyze who's the best suitable candidate/party to vote considering flexible suitable immigration policies.

Can you just put heads together, to select a candidate that would likely favour immigrants... I wish to vote a "Peter Obi" kinda candidate... if not I would gladly opt to "to-mbom to-mbom" method to cast my vote.

jedisco:


Hehe.
First, most immigrants are from conservative backgrounds and would be largely opposed to most things around LGBTQ. But then, there need to be some common sense decisions around certain things.

Secondly, I find it interesting that over the last few pages on the elections, the focus has been on vat for private schools. If just 7 % of kids are in private schools, the ratio of Nigerian immigrants whose kids would go to private schools would be very low. 1-2% at most. I.e, this would hardly affect us as a community . Personally, if I had kids here, I would look to send them to grammar or private schools. I factored this in when buying a property and had to buy in a town with a good number of well-rated fee paying schools. Even at that, I'm not opposed to the idea. Private schooling is increasingly becoming a status symbol and some vat on that is fair game. One might argue other areas e.g healthcare- the answer is simple. No tax is universally 'fair'. Every nation decides on what to tax and what not to.

My main concern is that the money raised would likely be wasted on some 'new shiny project' in state schools that would later be scrapped. Seen this happen too many times in the NHS. Finally, don't be surprised the number of children in private schools will keep rising despite this change. The psychology around items seen as luxury is very much different from essentials.

Cyberknight:


I don't think private schooling is "becoming" a status symbol. In its pure, historical form, it's always been that.

For me, I'm more concerned about people like myself, who have got a child who would perform better, get more attention, smaller class sizes, etc. outside mainstream state schooling and have to consider paying for that and the fact that tax in private education would probably put that out of reach/render it more expensive. The private schools people in my income bracket are looking at aren't the Etons, Harrows, Winchester Colleges et al, just simply non-state schools where the children get more focused attention.

jedisco:


Yeah, it's always been a status symbol but the kids enrolled are on the increase. There are a number of reasons for that but thats hardly the issue here. It's the optics on the 'haves- vs 'have-nots'. Your concerns I must add are all legit.

Without VAT, fees have been on a constant rise (manytimes above inflation). Including VAT might not translate to thesame fee rise for parents in the longterm. There are options to consider e.g you could look to move and target cheaper fee paying or better still grammar schools. The fact is that the overwhelming majority who are already paying fees would keep paying even with the change. It's for you to adapt.

No need stressing on things one cant change. Labour is likely going to win and just like Brexit and recent elections, this is one of their cardinal policies. It's a policy that would only affect a vanishingly small number of Nigerians.

Peerielass:


This could be the case in England where there are a lot of black people but in Scotland where population is predominantly whites, majority of parents from ethnic minority background send their kids to private schools which offer more diversity than council run schools. You wouldn’t want your child to be the only black in the entire school and to be picked on by bullies all the time because they are different.

jedisco:


I see... all legit. Infact Bullying and unruly kids are major issues with many state schools.

On a wider scale, this is a very easy sell for labour. As inequality and 'poverty' rises, those being envious would only increase. It doesn't help that many of the state schools need lots of work.
Also, private schooling offers good advantages in this country. You only have to look at the increasing ratio of private schooled MPs. Its not like they're more intelligent but that education gave them a pedestal. Just like with 'unfair' additional rate taxes, the larger society wants a cut of your money.

Lexusgs430:


I hope you're aware that if your child attends the closest grammar school to home, you're also entitled to free school bus pass...... If you haven't applied for this awoof, key in..... 🤣😂

My son attended Sir Joseph"s , absolutely brilliant school, whilst my daughter attended RGS....... .. My last daughter is at Fort Pitt .........

Kent is the grammar school gateway.........🤣😂

Make we enjoy the awoof, before Keir use hin bad belle comot them ........🤔😂

deept:


In Scotland where income taxes are higher, I know of people who are planning on moving down south because they will pay significantly higher taxes in scotland compared to England. With everything considered, they don't have to stay because work is remote. In the end Scotland lose all the tax revenue.

jedisco:


Absolutely agree with the first. Let the child not grow up and start reffering to his compatriots as 'black and brown people'. Also, this is my worry with recent migrants. Due to a number of factors- mainly cost and home security, very few of folks have been able to take family home in 5 yrs. Even among a group of folks who are doing well, virtually no one I know has done that.

Being a Nigerian offers me certain investment advantages when investing in Nigeria. As na small small money wey person dey look to invest, the whole process of setting shop in a foreign country while staying in the west is cumbersome. Imagine if we had well developed financial markets where one could buy global index funds safely and cheaply.. That could be a backup option where one could drip feed funds into and profits would be subject to home tax rules which are much lower. Also, with 9ja, we have the advantage of knowing the country quite well and what opportunities exist. We just need the country back on the right track

Gerrard59:


Just as I read an earlier post where a black British-bred dude mocked or derided a Nairalander or the video I watched on Twitter where a black dude, most likely born and bred in France, was yelling at a recent black African migrant to "go back to her country". The white French lass nearby looked amused and was somehow confused.

In a world where black people, especially black Africans, are not liked, it is important for would-be parents to train their children for the challenges ahead. As long as sub-Saharan Africa - home of black people - remains poor - racism is tied to wealth/poverty - black people will keep encountering racial slurs and discrimination. One can only hope for a prosperous sub-Saharan Africa.

Zahra29:


No I don't think that's what it means at all. I have read their manifesto and none of it calls for "deadly persecution" against Christians, females or non whites.

Like they would put that in their manifesto. But hypernationalism has always always lead to this in the past.

I said it was "interesting" to see if the UK would follow the same movement as Europe and the US. That doesn't equate to campaigning for or supporting Reform.

Are you not? You ve been complimentary to them in the past. If I misread you , I apologise.

However, I also do not think it is a "calamity" to have voices on the opposite side of the debate on issues such as trans Vs women's rights, Christian church Vs gay rights, energy/green issues , immigration, tax and so on.

I am happy to have opposing sides but not reform please. I will have no truck with neo nazis and white nationalists.


You do know that some policies of the far left parties such as the SNP could also be seen as catastrophic to many people such as women, whose rights and identity have systematically been infringed to cater to another group or Christian businesses that have been sued and shut down because their beliefs did not allow them to carry out the services imposed on them. Why should the rights of one group of people come at the expense of another? Balance is needed on both sides.

Is the SNP far left? Far left is socialism, what policy of theirs is socialist?

Finally, a uKiP MP was elected to parliament in 2015. UKIP is regarded as more to the right than Reform and yet Parliament did not fall down and no one faced any deadly persecution that I'm aware of.

Hitlers deadly Nazi Party also started with 1 MP then drummed up support and devastated the world . If enough wallys people vote for them,they ll be a threat .

jedisco:


It's sad sometimes. Many second gen folks have been exposed to decades of humiliation of black folks without experiencing or hearing our stories. Their psyche has been conditioned towards self-hate.
Also the timidity and impoverishment of many Africans back home and in the West doesn't help. It's like we're too quick to absorb insults. It's one reason I'm vehemently against anything that'd unfairly limit attainment or wealth of immigrants e.g selective taxation in the name of exhorbitant visa fees or different bottlenecks in the workplace.

Go back a few years on NL and I remember one chap from Peckham who's hobby was to insult Nigerians especially health workers and how they wouldn't survive a day in his UK. Not surprising, he has since gone quiet. I don dey find find the rascal since.

jedisco:




Go back a few years on NL and I remember one chap from Peckham who's hobby was to insult Nigerians especially health workers and how they wouldn't survive a day in his UK. Not surprising, he has since gone quiet. I don dey find find the rascal since.

Zahra29:


I wouldn't say I'm complimentary to them, but I'm a bit more open minded towards their headline policies, many of which make sense and would be good for the country if they can be implemented. For example they, like you, favour lower taxes (zero tax on the first £20k), they have a sensible proposal to retain NHS doctors and nurses, they're advocating for more police, greater housing and defence spending etc.

The single issue for most immigrants is their policy on reducing immigration, which the general public has agreed is too high and needs to come down.

Besides a party that many would regard as parochial, and firmly wants to remain out of the EU, is highly unlikely to be interested in pursuing a world domination agenda. I think those concerns should directed towards the likes of Russia and China.

Gerrard59:


As I stated a few days ago in response to another Nairalander, poverty is a bad thing, and I dare say, it is worse than death. The excruciating poverty experienced across the sub-continent has made blacks in Europe, who, unlike their counterparts in the US, are WILLING and recent migrants who can trace their ancestry to Africa to behave like the downtrodden.



And this is why black Africa, aka sub-Saharan Africa, has to be rich.