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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 11:18am On Jun 10 |
ijebosb: Evidence already suggests we the people are not voting for antiabortionists, but you think we the people will now vote for segregation? You keep forgetting that seats are apportioned by we the people who elect whom we want to those seats, and are presenting this as if the Supreme Court elects them. Do you also fear that some states would make the votes of 4 black people equal one white person's vote too, and the supreme court would agree and black lives would stop mattering and not burn down America too? Sorry, but I just don't have this your fear that the majority in America would be that stupid. And even if they just happen to be stupid for one cycle, they'd change their mind by the next after seeing the consequences of their choice just as they did with dump after his one term, and it might even end up with the stupid party never having a majority or president for the rest of the century, to my delight. And if the supreme court decides to abandon reason and common sense and do what you suggest they'd do, I can see the United States at War with itself. ijebosb:Yet, here I am caring about America that doesn't directly affect/touch me. Perhaps own your own seeming please. Even most white folks in America wouldn't accept segregation in schools. And an election after it is introduced just might give the Democrats that filibusting majority is what I think, especially after many Republicans who don't buy that nonsense swop party and become Democrats. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 12:00pm On Jun 10 |
budaatum: I dey laugh O. Is that the Harvard graduate you was discussing with a few day ago ? That fool , conjugator of verbs expert. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 1:22pm On Jun 10 |
ijebosb , Ill never stop making fun of you till you grow a pair. Compare and contrast the swamp vs Trump with no bias at all. They cannot afford to let Donald Trump, using the White House’s bully pulpit, show Americans that they don’t need the government to succeed, that problems can be solved without government “help,” and to demonstrate that the government is often the problem.https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/06/the_swamp_s_rational_hatred_for_donald_trump.html I suspect you will dismiss author because he probably he is a "white working class voter who still clings to his guns and religion" according to another character with zero private sector experience. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 2:39pm On Jun 10 |
budaatum: I think who we vote for is mattering less and less. The Supreme Court is filled with Right Wing pseudo Christian fascists, though the majority of Americans aren't. The House which should have direct Representation is Republican controlled, though by the Representative vote of America it should be Democratic controlled. The Senate is Democratic controlled barely, though the majority of America is more Democratic. The only branch that is representative of where the majority of the country is, is the Presidency. So you keep speaking of this majority, whereas the country is more and more being run by the minority. And structural impediments are being erected to keep it that way. Such as gerrymandering. budaatum: Most may not, but if the Supreme Court pushes it back to states to decide, how many of those right wing states do you think would choose that? I'm sure there would be some like Alabama. And here we go back to the privilege thing. My deep blue state of Massachusetts would be fine. But Massachussetts is very expensive. How many of those people in states like Alabama, if they do decide on some form of segregation, could afford to move to an expensive blue state? So, some people in these gerrymandered states, where some people have lost their representation, would be affected. Your argument is that those people are disposable and we shouldn't care about them, because people in my Blue state wouldn't be touched? I could argue they didn't work hard enough to fend off the issue, but then understand there is that privilege of mine, and not all those people have the ability nor resources to fight power. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 2:47pm On Jun 10 |
ijebosb: Dude stop making noise. In life, not everyone will agree with you. What is a right-wing Christian fascist? Why do you bring the word Christian into this? How are they fascist? They make decisions according to the constitution and you don't like it so they are fascist? 🍼🍼🍼🍼🍼 Take one of these anytime you want to cry here. People who don't want to live in shithole New York or California move to red states. The abortion laws have been shown to favour democrats since they moved to the States. That is a democracy, people are choosing what they want and if the state's policy does not align with their beliefs or wallet, they move. What is wrong with you? Why do you always think like a spoilt 3 year old that will always get what he wants? Ice cannot act in New York or most blue states because of state laws. Is that not the same thing? 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 2:53pm On Jun 10 |
@budaatum, islamist and people are allowed to roam the UK, calling for jihad and singing praise to terrorists, calling for the death of nations and are protected by the MetP... But a man who is there to cover the event as a journalist is the problem. Do you think this is good? The way Europeans are fast tracking your own desolation is outstanding. https://twitter.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1799881976222200031?t=2jBjd7BW37CNQB_OHOwo0A&s=19 Very selective freespeech. Only the LGBT and the other eastern minority groups are enjoying the largest share of freespeech. Every other group will have to take what is left. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 3:03pm On Jun 10 |
ijebosb: And this just about sums up your fear, and sounds like those in other threads who tell me that elections don't count in Nigeria that has a much less robust democracy than USA, but whom I constantly tell to get their pvcs and vote like their lifes depends on it because their livelihoods pretty much do. If you don't trust the democratic process in the United States of America, then so be it. I can't really be bothered arguing to convince you to, because the last time I checked, the majority elected the President despite the guy with the minority votes still crying that he won.
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 3:08pm On Jun 10 |
ijebosb: I expect this from the stupid idiot, but not from you. If you don't understand my argument, kindly ask for clarification instead of resorting to the stupid idiot's maths is racist illogical reasoning and mischaracterisationing. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 3:16pm On Jun 10 |
Your racist source says quite a lot about you. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson_(activist) bemeruca: |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 3:21pm On Jun 10 |
budaatum: I showed you a video about police harassing someone and your problem is the source. This is why you were called a coward and a snake. How is it that the UK police protect jihadists protesting in the street but will arrest someone covering the protest? There was a time when I said Muslims are trying to enforce sharia laws in the London by roaming the streets and harassing people, your default reaction was to try and deny it then make excuses for them. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 3:32pm On Jun 10 |
budaatum: How do votes count when the means of voting is corrupted? Say with gerrymandering? If I can choose how districts are drawn to water down certain votes, is the election really representative? I'm talking about structural impediments. Let's go further with another example, let's say we had an election where everyone voted 'like their livelihood' depended on it, but then a governor/state house decided to just select their own electors opposite of how the majority voted and the Supreme Court accepted it. Would you still say the democratic process works? Because that is a plausible situation given how some state constitutions are written to allow electors to be chosen and the Federal Constitution allows states to decide how to select their electors. I hear what you are saying from a idealized mile high perspective, but I'm arguing how easily things can change when you get into the weeds. I think there is a real palpable fear right now about what is going on in the US, that is being expressed beyond just myself. Especially if the Supreme Court rules that a president is immune from prosecution. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 3:35pm On Jun 10 |
budaatum: Of course, my words border more on the rhetorical, but there is a point behind them. When I argue, I hope I'm arguing from the perspective of the least amongst us. I feel sometimes your arguments wash over that perspective. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 3:50pm On Jun 10 |
ijebosb: You are not saying anything. You are only showing us all you have in common with MAGA I think this will anger budaatum. The problem with you guys is your bias and hatred for the other side. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 3:52pm On Jun 10 |
The fact that the prosecution immunized the gun store dealer tells you everything you need to know about the Hunter Biden prosecution. Usually there is a policy goal behind prosecutions. Ex. We want less illegal guns on the street. So, if they have an option to prosecute someone who lied on a gun form to get a gun or a gun dealer who forged a gun form to sell someone a gun, they would go after the gun store owner as it gives the government the ability to potentially get more illegally bought guns off the street. In this case they went after the buyer and gave the dealer a free pass. Makes so much sense.. NOT! Only makes sense because this Special Prosecutor wanted to go after Hunter Biden.
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 4:00pm On Jun 10 |
bemeruca: Listen, don't presume that because I abuse you because of your lies about living in the US, that you and I are on equal footing with the understanding of the US constitution or anything for that matter. Wtf do you know about the US Constitution or US courts, that you can presume to tell me about it? If I need your opinion on how to be a degenerate, sound and wrike like an illiterate, be a dead-beat dad, clumsily steal Nairalander's IP addresses, or clumsily lie about being in the US, I'll ask. Otherwise stay in your lane you trollish buffoon. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 4:12pm On Jun 10 |
ijebosb: 🍼🍼🍼 Take this first. Yes I live in the United States, I am a dad you are not, gays are denerate and you are gay. You sounded like a 3-year-old disregarding the constitution. Isn't it ironic that Budaatum who lives in the UK is schooling you on US matters? How tempted are you to tell him he should keep quiet because he does not live in the US? It's pride month, go spend time with your buddies. You are an underachieved noise maker on Nairaland who has a hard time with people's opinions or reality. At least, go drink Coke or Fanta in a Bar and take photos of it. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 4:45pm On Jun 10 |
bemeruca: I can't imagine the broken and insecurity it takes to wake up everyday and lie about living in another country. So let's try this again. Take it as me trying to help you, jolt you back to reality. Here are the pictures that YOU posted on this site fromm the day you said you landed in the US. These aren't lies I made up. These are things YOU chose to post here to lie to and manipulate readers of this thread. Tell us from these pictures when you actually landed in the US. The picture of the crappy motel you posted and was in the US was actually in Canada. Do I need to post those receipts again? The picture of you in the car you said was in the US was actually taking in a mall in Canada. Do I need to post those receipts again? The car you said your company gave you belongs to the family that is hosting you. Do I need to post those receipts again? You're a delusional person, a practiced liar and a bad one at that. A true nutcase. 1 Like
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 4:57pm On Jun 10 |
ijebosb: But I do and this is what is keeping you up at night ![]() you keep repeating yourself. I will present the challenge to you again. If you want to know where I am and more about me, reveal yourself. we know it is envy that is making you die on this matter and I like this state you find yourself. You are desperately trying to stay alive ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 5:06pm On Jun 10 |
bemeruca: Let me do it again. You are a loser who has to lie about living in the US to your other idiot mentally ill friends like Basilico who spend their lies spreading propaganda about a place they do not live. This is what YOU posted. Tell us again, how this was a motel in the US. If you were actually in the US, you wouldn't need to post pictures of Canada claiming it is the US. lol How envious I must feel that you are a asylum seeker in Canada? lol He said challenge. I know exactly where you are. I got your ip address the day you tried your half ass intrusion into my work pc.
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 5:09pm On Jun 10 |
After posting the pictures of your Canadian motel: Another loser: So, this is the America they make so much noise about? Yeah, a crappy motel in Canada would be a blah place. Lol. This is comedy. You nut. I bet you were proud of yourself after fooling Basilico and all the other idiots in this thread into believing you were in the US. lol
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 5:16pm On Jun 10 |
ijebosb: Are you gonna take my challenge? This will give you a clue. Conversations from last year and early this year. But take up my challenge I will show you my passport More junks for you to save on your phone. But my conversation with these beautiful ladies will pinpoint where I am for you. It's a clue. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 5:37pm On Jun 10 |
bemeruca: Bwahhhaha.. So, you lie to your friends as well. Bwahahahahah. To prove he wasn't lying he posted screenshots of him lying to other people. Lol. You are legit degenerate. People should fear you. What type of 419 loser goes around telling people they are in a country they are not. Lol. Holy shit you are a nut. Let's recap the lies you told from my previous post. After I got your IP after you clumsily tried to hack my work pc and found out you were in Surrey, it was easy enough to figure where the pictures you posted were from. https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-2024-elections/4105#129289908 1.) This is a pic you posted of where you supposedly stayed the first night you supposedly landed in the "USA". Notice the bus stops I circled. Now, in every local/city/state/country, the bus stops signs are different, and of course different from country to country. So which city/country uses this Bus stop sign you may ask? Lol.. None other than Surrey British Columbia, Canada. Lol https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-2024-elections/3789#122962336 2.) This is the Pic of the Bus stop sign from the Surrey website (circled in Red). Notice the similarities - they are the same. Lol 3.) The Bus Stop from his original picture blown up.
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 5:42pm On Jun 10 |
ijebosb: You gonna take the challenge or not 😎 |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 5:50pm On Jun 10 |
bemeruca: Listen, I wonder if Jayedna ![]() I doubt she believes you. Look at your response to her. "It's fun if you ignore politics and some crazy shit. The ferry is nice." Tell me you don't really live in Seattle without telling me. As if everyone walks around talking about politics I bet she would love to know you are running 419 on her and posting your chats with her to run other 419s. ![]() You're a bigger nut than I thought. I assumed this was a Nairaland meant lie. But you're spreading this lie in your real life as well. You one fuxing broken person.
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:07pm On Jun 10 |
ijebosb: Stop crying, try and get some sleep 🤣 |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 6:14pm On Jun 10 |
bemeruca: Holy shit, you are really really invested in this lie. A person who was telling the truth would post a passport, a flight ticket a pic of them in the US, like the ones I've posted. Instead, you post personal chats with Jayedna and Obum, revealing their personal info, where you are lying to them, telling them you are in the US. Lol. You are fuxing nut. That ish is undeniable now. Lol |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:19pm On Jun 10 |
ijebosb:This is basilico's mules 2000 line, and was dump's kraken too. And if I remember correctly, he tried taking it all the way to the so called 6-3 Supreme Court, but even they weren't having it. So pray tell, why would I have it from you? ijebosb: In the United States of America, Ije? A country where the constitution allows people to open carry AK47s and where nutters shoot children in schools? Or do you think some who disagree wouldn't use their AK47s instead to sort out those who do such nonsense? Do you also expect those supposed 3 on the Supreme Court who disagree to be quiet and say nothing too? And what about all those who voted and had their votes stolen, would they too be silent, along with the party that was cheated, and CNN, and MSNBC, and WSJ and NYT and Wapo, and BBC, and Aljazeera and even China and Russia and Iran who would be laughing their heads off at how low USA has fallen? I'm not going to live in fear of your hypothetical impossible scenario, sorry. But if and when it does happens, do hola me. The revolution will be televised live on the 10 O'clock news and I would definitely enjoy watching we the people burn Rome. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:25pm On Jun 10 |
ijebosb: More on the rhetorical? Really? That's what that stupid idiot does, and he too claims there's points behind it. See him posting that fascist racist ex-convict Tommy Robinson as evidence for free speech. Its like posting Kkk to prove how well blacks are loved in America. I'm going to ignore your appeal to being holier than thou. It is patronisingly condescending and beneath me. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:26pm On Jun 10 |
ijebosb: Then take my challenge. I know you will die once you see it. I am challenging you on that. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:32pm On Jun 10 |
budaatum: Budaatum hates the guy who exposes child grooming more than the predators. This is not new for you. But we saw what happened in Germany and France lately. I guess more and more people are becoming fascists. I wonder why. The other day you attacked libs of TikTok for reposting a video a child groomer made. Libs of TikTok bad... Child groomer victim according to you. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:35pm On Jun 10 |
bemeruca: You showed me a video of Tommy Robinson being cautioned, and only if you know nothing about him would you be surprised that he wasn't arrested on the spot! Below are just some of his crimes. Others are insighting hatred against Jews and blacks and Muslims, as you'd find in the source previously posted. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 6:38pm On Jun 10 |
budaatum: You are doing what the media does so well, both siding it. You fell into the trap that Trump and co have created. What has allowed them to be so effective in what they do. They lie about everything,. so then everyone assumes everything is a lie or just thorws their hands up and doesn't care. Just because Trump's lies about Jan 6th were bullshit, doesn't mean the institutionalized means of corrupting an election such as gerrymandering aren't there. I never understood the desire to appear impartial, when that means removing the ability to objectively review sides of any argument. A can be false without B also being false. budaatum: This is weak sauce form you. Just FYI, the Biden campaigns lawyers Gamed out such scenarios during the election with Trump. They gamed out that Trump would try to steal the election, and took step after step to prevent it. They gamed out the the House would try to overturn the state's electors. That's why they had Biden give updates and had attorneys ready when it did happen. Btw, the 3 Supreme Court justices always right dissents. What would change? Also, look at the sates of WI, OH and NC and their extreme gerrymandering. Look at how long they were gerrymandered. And the kind of things/policies that happened. Did the citizens revolt? As I said you seem to have 2 poles. Complete faith that nothing bad will happen and then this view that a violent revolution will make it better if it does happen. You seem to miss all those people that will die in the 2nd one, vs doing the work now to ensure the 2nd one never happens. And I hate to say this, but you don't live in the US, so you can chalk this up as a impossible hypothetical because it won't affect you. |
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