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Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by PresidObi: 7:44pm On Jun 10
LegendHero:


Zamfara can never be Dubai. To be Dubai, it takes more than wishful thinking.

Peter Obi actually took Anambra backward. Go to NBS to check the statistics, Anambra regressed during Peter Obi tenure in all metrics economically.

I told you to stop using Obi as an example, you no dey listen.

Lastly, you’re wrong about a single man coming to change Nigeria, it’s impossible. In all the politician I know in my life that are honest, Buhari is number one. No one can say they saw Buhari stealing money but see what happened when he governed?

It takes more than honesty and integrity to govern Nigeria. Even an ordinary Local government, you can’t govern it with honest or integrity alone let alone an ethnically diverse Nigeria.

Buhari honest?

Brother, please stop commenting on social media, you may infect a lot of people with your myopic and jaundiced thoughts.
Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by LegendHero(m): 7:48pm On Jun 10
PresidObi:


Buhari honest?

Brother, please stop commenting on social media, you may infect a lot of people with your myopic and jaundiced thoughts.

Buhari is the only politician since 1999 that can be said to not be corrupt and with integrity in the Nigeria definition.

Mention one politician that comes close to him.

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Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by 042reports(f): 7:56pm On Jun 10
LegendHero:


What make you think government can pay 100k?

This is exactly why politicians take us for granted. Promise eldorado while in reality, they can’t get things going because real life is different from fantasy.

Is it Zamfara that is still struggling with 18k minimum wage to their workers that will pay 100k? Some governors even borrow loans to pay salaries, shey na those go pay 100k?

When you’re all done whyning yourself, you will wake up to reality.

Zamfara now 30k under dauda
Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by LegendHero(m): 7:59pm On Jun 10
042reports:


Zamfara now 30k under dauda

Dauda said he’ll start paying in June. Let’s see what happens this month end.

That means Zamfara will start paying any new minimum wage by 2028 at most. If it takes them 5 years to pay the minimum wage after 2019 signing, then it’ll take them that same time for this one.

Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by MT: 8:01pm On Jun 10
LegendHero:
In 2023 for example, Oyo state wage bill was 7.2bn monthly. Let’s say they increase from 30k to 100k, it means the wage bill will roughly shoot up to 16bn for example. It’s not going to increase 3 fold like that due to the calculation being used.

For Feb 2024, Oyo received 10bn net allocation from FAAC. So that means the 16bn wage bill will be up to 50% more than their monthly FAAC.

And I am even being generous with the 16bn wage bill.

There are lot of Ghost workers.

Many workers have left for abroad and still sharing salaries with their Ogas.

Without automation, there will always be fraud
Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by hmohammed(m): 8:05pm On Jun 10
PresidObi:


My brother, that you support a government with people of low intelligence and capacity doesn't men you will support for Nigeria to suffer because your chosen leaders cannot see beyond their short noses. Your government should shape up or get out, Nigeria is not an IDP camp.

We need a president with capacity and vision.

What is your point now?
Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by LegendHero(m): 8:06pm On Jun 10
MT:


There are lot of Ghost workers.

Many workers have left for abroad and still sharing salaries with their Ogas.

Without automation, there will always be fraud

Government has tried to consistently weed off those ghost workers. Sometimes Labour union go on strike for that by trying to say government is witch-hunting them and trying to downsize the workforce.

We need a ruthless government to deal with the menace. I know in Oyo state, Ajimobi did it and Makinde probably did too but still the issue continue to fester.
Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by lexy2014: 8:08pm On Jun 10
these guys are not serious. you are waiting for tinubu to tell you what to do or you should be telling tinubu what to do?
Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by LegendHero(m): 8:08pm On Jun 10
MT:


Without automation, there will always be fraud

Even with automation, there will be fraud so far that automation will be controlled by Nigerians.

Until they start sending people to death by hanging, nothing will change in Nigeria.

I remember when NYSC started thumb printing, we had thought it will be 100% foolproof. But now, we have vast number of ghost corpers who are not even in the state of service but yet they get paid and money gifted to their LIO, principal of workplace, and etc.

Come to Nigeria embassy abroad, even with all the usual optics, corruption is still madly apparent in there.
Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by Diligence: 8:10pm On Jun 10
Guz: I HV BN hearing what Labour is proposing is REASONABLE BUT NOT REALISTIC...

Abeg, make I ask una: 1. Was increasing fuel pump price from 185 to over N600 REASONABLE & REALISTIC ?

2. Was Floating the Naira also R&R?

3. Was arbitrarily increasing Import Duties R&R?

4. Were double taxations R&R?

5. Was increasing Electricity Tariffs over & over again REASONABLE & REALISTIC?

Pls why una be like this? Shey dem bewitch una?
Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by MT: 8:12pm On Jun 10
LegendHero:


Even with automation, there will be fraud so far that automation will be controlled by Nigerians.

Until they start sending people to death by hanging, nothing will change in Nigeria.

I remember when NYSC started thumb printing, we had thought it will be 100% foolproof. But now, we have vast number of ghost corpers who are not even in the state of service but yet they get paid and money gifted to their LIO, principal of workplace, and etc.

Come to Nigeria embassy abroad, even with all the usual optics, corruption is still madly apparent in there.

That's not automation that captures the entire process.

Even abroad, the whites want to steal but the processes are well automated and they know they cannot escape.

We lack proper data. Why is NYSC not linked to all the universities, track the graduands - it is disjointed. See, there are ways to handle this and it will work, but they wont allow it.
Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by Konquest: 8:16pm On Jun 10
Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by LegendHero(m): 8:18pm On Jun 10
MT:


That's not automation that captures the entire process.

Even abroad, the whites want to steal but the processes are well automated and they know they cannot escape.

We lack proper data. Why is NYSC not linked to all the universities, track the graduands - it is disjointed. See, there are ways to handle this and it will work, but they wont allow it.

It’s like you don’t understand. In USA, the major reason why people don’t game the government easily is simply because the law actually work. You know that if they catch you, it’s jail straight so it deter people from general crime.

No system anywhere is foolproof. During the Covid intervention, the SBA shared loan for businesses in USA and lot of people gamed the system with billions of dollars lost to scam. Nowhere is foolproof if the people don’t align.

You don’t understand the NYSC issue. It is linked to schools and that’s not what I am saying.

A student graduated from Uni, they send his name to NYSC, he got called up to camp and then posted to a state like Edo. Then after camp, he says he got a PPA and continue to collect his salary monthly but the guy is not anywhere near Edo state. Some are not even anywhere near Nigeria. Someone within NYSC is doing all the stuffs and they are collecting his pay and etc.

This kind of thing is applicable to every sector. Until people know that if you are corrupt and you get caught you will indeed go to prison at an expedited time, corruption will never end in Nigeria.

If you like go and bring FBI to design our system, I tell you Nigerians will find a loophole tomorrow.

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Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by brownbib(m): 8:18pm On Jun 10
250k isn't a crime.
Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by Kukutente23: 8:23pm On Jun 10
LegendHero:


So what is the wage bill? Since the governor said it’s 7.2bn, how much do you think it is?

Even in 2019 when Makinde just got sworn in, he claimed the wage bill was 5.2bn.

So why can’t it move to 7.2 in 2023?

And here is same Makinde claiming wage bill as 11bn in 2020
You're typing like someone who doesn't know Nigerian politicians

Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by LegendHero(m): 8:28pm On Jun 10
Kukutente23:

And here is same Makinde claiming wage bill as 11bn in 2020
You're typing like someone who doesn't know Nigerian politicians

This stil dosent answer the question I asked you. What is Oyo state true state wage bill?

Below is the same news you shared, The accuser stated that Ajimobi left 5.2bn as wage bill for workers in 2019.

So having 7.2bn in 2023 as mentioned by Makinde seems correct to me.

Now can you present any evidence that shows Oyo wage bill is less than that? If less than that by how many percentage?

So if they’re paying 30k and they incur 7bn, how much will they incur with 100k? How much is FAAC and IGR?

https://dailypost.ng/2020/03/13/oyo-we-deserve-explanation-over-your-claim-on-115000-workers-n11b-wage-bill-alao-tackles-makinde/

Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by Tareq1105: 8:38pm On Jun 10
Jostoman:
dont mind those APC bingos

Where's Ajaero and Usifo?

Are they in the country to lead the strike?

They've abandoned their Core Course for Estacode.
Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by Kukutente23: 8:50pm On Jun 10
LegendHero:


This stil dosent answer the question I asked you. What is Oyo state true state wage bill?

Below is the same news you shared, The accuser stated that Ajimobi left 5.2bn as wage bill for workers in 2019.

So having 7.2bn in 2023 as mentioned by Makinde seems correct to me.

Now can you present any evidence that shows Oyo wage bill is less than that? If less than that by how many percentage?

So if they’re paying 30k and they incur 7bn, how much will they incur with 100k? How much is FAAC and IGR?

https://dailypost.ng/2020/03/13/oyo-we-deserve-explanation-over-your-claim-on-115000-workers-n11b-wage-bill-alao-tackles-makinde/
It is reasonable to discountenance conflicting figures. It is simple logic. Alao claimed 100,000 workers in 2019 were earning 5.2bn. So how can 115,000 workers earn 7.2bn in 2023? For additional 15,000 workers to earn 2bn when 100,000 earned 5.2bn means those 15,000 most be special breed of workers. It makes no logical sense. Oyo state workers was put at 40,000 as at 2017. Lagos workers then was 100,000 while Kano had a whopping 160,000
If nothing, you should know how governors in Nigeria are fond of inflating and bandying figures to suit there agenda.

https://dailytrust.com/30-states-generate-n516bn-spend-n1-4trn-on-wages/
Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by LegendHero(m): 9:02pm On Jun 10
Kukutente23:

It is reasonable to discountenance conflicting figures. It is simple logic. Alao claimed 100,000 workers in 2019 were earning 5.2bn. So how can 115,000 workers earn 7.2bn in 2023? For additional 15,000 workers to earn 2bn when 100,000 earned 5.2bn means those 15,000 most be special breed of workers. It makes no logical sense. Oyo state workers was put at 40,000 as at 2017. Lagos workers then was 100,000 while Kano had a whopping 160,000
If nothing, you should know how governors in Nigeria are fond of inflating and bandying figures to suit there agenda.

https://dailytrust.com/30-states-generate-n516bn-spend-n1-4trn-on-wages/

You still haven’t answered my question. What is the wage bill of Oyo and how do you measure wage bill sincerity.

Ajimobi government mentioned 5.2bn in 2019
Makinde mention 7bn in 2023.

How much do you think it should be? 1bn or 3bn? If I should not believe Makinde and Ajimobi, should I believe a nobody like you?

Do you know Oyo state will be in the top 5 -6 states with the largest number of workers in the country?
Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by Kukutente23: 9:13pm On Jun 10
LegendHero:


You still haven’t answered my question. What is the wage bill of Oyo and how do you measure wage bill sincerity.

Ajimobi government mentioned 5.2bn in 2019
Makinde mention 7bn in 2023.

How much do you think it should be? 1bn or 3bn? If I should not believe Makinde and Ajimobi, should I believe a nobody like you?

Do you know Oyo state will be in the top 5 -6 states with the largest number of workers in the country?
You're free to believe whatever suits your fancy. But common sense and logic will tell you those figures are false. Read the link I gave you to see the top 5 or 6 workforce in the country as given by NBS in 2017. Oyo is not among top wage bill either.
So again, you can believe whatever suits your narrative and throw away common sense in that pursuit.
Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by richie240: 9:16pm On Jun 10
Hehehehehe.....una water don pass garri abi??
So una nor fit confront the state governors abi??

We know right from the start that Ajaero's NLC is a political tool to fight the FG and nothing else.

Una go get sense by fire by force!
grin

Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by richie240: 9:18pm On Jun 10
seunmsg:
Thank God. Going on strike again is absolutely senseless. Glad to see that common sense has prevailed.
Nothing like 'common sense' here, d state govs have already checkmated him. He had no choice but to eat the humble pie.

The FG was their focus, -the wrong focus because the FG has d financial muscle to pay, but now that the states have shown that they can't pay, he has to fold his tail btw his legs.
grin

Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by LegendHero(m): 9:20pm On Jun 10
Kukutente23:

You're free to believe whatever suits your fancy. But common sense and logic will tell you those figures are false. Read the link I gave you to see the top 5 or 6 workforce in the country as given by NBS in 2017. Oyo is not among top wage bill either.
So again, you can believe whatever suits your narrative and throw away common sense in that pursuit.

You are even more dumberr than I initially thought.

In the PremiumTimes news you shared for 2017, it stated clearly that Oyo wage bill was 63billion per annum which stood at 5.25billion monthly.

If you believed the report of 5.25 billion wage bill in 2017, why can you not believe 7.2billion in 2023? Do you know that as at 2017, they were still paying the 18k minimum wage?

So what exactly are we arguing here? Do you just create argument for the fun of it?

Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by richie240: 9:31pm On Jun 10
LegendHero:


Yes, you’re correct. I know food is damn expensive.

But how does increasing minimum wage to 100k for less than 10% of the population bring food price down or allow the remaining 90% to afford the food?

What economic theory are you using?

It is more easier to invest massively in food production, allow imports in the interim, subsidize food import until we can get it right, declare state of emergency in agriculture and bring the price down by increasing output.

Those are more better for everyone in the long run than 100k minimum wage for less then 10% of the population.
10% (25 million) ke?
E nor even reach that size.
Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by LegendHero(m): 9:34pm On Jun 10
richie240:

10% (25 million) ke?
E nor even reach that size.

I was even being generous. I am not sure those workers are up to 3% of the population self.
Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by ViktorCash: 9:38pm On Jun 10
Las Las na 100k go be the new minimum wage grin
Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by Segxydube: 9:42pm On Jun 10
LegendHero:
NLC should up their minimum wage to 700k.

Then strike for 3 years so that Obi can be elected as president in 2027.

That is the reasoning of the headless mob.

No state in Nigeria can pay even 100k minimum wage, I even doubt the FG can pay that amount. When all of you finish your theatrics, you will start being serious.


No state can pay 100k because that is what they always tell daft citizens like you...
Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by kayperry: 9:43pm On Jun 10
PresidObi:


There you go again spreading your dose of ignorance and stunted knowledge.

Politicians have failed to achieve, they promise and fail, not because we dont live in an era of abundance, but because each of them has been poor in mentality.

Let's face the fact.

The target of most politicians that come out of Nigeria is to loot, since they invested too much to get into power. They loot you dry, and pay back foreign powers that allowed them get in there. In the end there will be little to share, or to build up the country.

We need a man who is not ready to spend shi shi to fraudulently climb to power, we need a leader with proven track records of successfully administering somewhere, not propaganda of building Lagos. We need a man with the capacity to harness our natural resources.

Zamfara can become Dubai if the right persons climb to power there, they could use their natural resources to better their state.

Anambra was once a poor, disorganised and unsafe state like Zamfara till one Peter Obi came out from nowhere to put things in place, since then, Anambra has become a success story till today.


How can you assert one Peter obi put Anambra when it took Obiano to give anambra an Airport ...
A Govt that could not boast of capital projects, how did he put anambra in place ??
Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by LegendHero(m): 9:47pm On Jun 10
Segxydube:


No state can pay 100k because that is what they always tell daft citizens like you...

So how much do you think they can pay? As an intelligent citizen that you are, can you tell us.
Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by richie240: 9:47pm On Jun 10
....and that is the real plot of Ajaero's NLC.
It's not that they truly care about the masses workers.
They've since showed their hands by showing their political affiliation.
They have bcum a political group to fight the FG.......and d reason is clear!
They are just hiding behind'minimum wage' to execute their plot.
cool
Platinumbillz:
Thank you so much for this!

What most people don't know is immediately the new minimum wage is approved the pepper sellers and all will start adding price to already expensive food items and things will become more expensive not minding the fact that it isnt everyone that is on salary..... then everyone will start blaming the government again.

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Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by Platinumbillz(f): 10:01pm On Jun 10
Well said!!!


richie240:
....and that is the real plot of Ajaero's NLC.
It's not that they truly care about the masses workers.
They've since showed their hands by showing their political affiliation.
They have bcum a political group to fight the FG.......and d reason is clear!
They are just hiding behind'minimum wage' to execute their plot.
cool

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Re: NLC Rules Out Labour Strike Tomorrow, Awaits Tinubu’s Intervention by richie240: 10:07pm On Jun 10
Hehehehehe .....dey there.
Tinubu can pay FG workers ANY MW but the state can't, and he CAN'T FORCE them.
So the NLC's gra-gra wings have bn cut to size.
cool
lexy2014:
these guys are not serious. you are waiting for tinubu to tell you what to do or you should be telling tinubu what to do?

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