KGBKremlin:


Ode from ravaged uninhabitable place wants Delta, continue dreaming after you've sacrificed your dead Biafra for ritualist.

That's my state below.
Oloko

I won't join issues with son of a nobody

Everyone clamouring for Anioma state are chasing clout,dreams that will never happen.Igbos have not successfully developed the states in their region,they are looking for more additional state. wishful thinking 🤔

Konquest:

I doubt if Ned Nwoko as a brilliant international lawyer who is from Aniocha North LGA made this statement of referring to the proposed Anioma State as the "6th South East" state because he knows full well that the people that make up what is NOW known as Anioma ancestrally come from multiple ethnic groups of Bini, Esan, Yoruba, Igala, Nri, etc. Several towns in the different parts of Anioma know their ancestral origins and NOBODY can just push everybody to join the South East. This is the reason why when the Nigerian Civil War took place the bearded rebel leader and his group of secessionists did NOT dare to include Delta North in the rebel enclave. Even the people of Onitsha (as told by Olisa Agbakoba, SAN, who granted an interview in 2006 where he said he and his older teenage brother were arrested and forcibly conscripted by the secessionists during the two-years-six months Nigerian Civil War. Olisa Agbakoba's lawyer father was in Lagos during the War) who are an Anioma people on the Eastern side of River Niger that had been balkanized into the Eastern Region by the British after the Ekumeku War led by Issele Uku and other Anioma allies from Olukumi (Yoruba descent) commanders in Aniocha North and more were NOT enthusiastic about joining the so-called secession in 1967. This is also why Dr. Ukpabi Asika from Onitsha was the Administrator of the newly created East Central State and did not align with the rebel secessionists.
Even Asaba, Ebu, Illah and Okpanam have significant Igala origins. Nnebisi of Asaba whose father was of Igala ethnicity we know full well from history gave all his children Igala names.
Reverend Father (Dr.) Kunirum Osia who is from Obamkpa in Aniocha North in Delta North of Delta State had granted interviews in the past where he emphasized on the mixed ethnic origins of Anioma folksand he said CLEARLY that it is wrong to refer to Delta North as Delta Ibo, so, YOU cannot say that Anioma State is an Ibo State (even though there were migrants some migrants who came areas on the East of River Niger such as Nri). That is HIGHLY irresponsible and Ned Nwoko would NEVER say that, and if the Facebook post is not fake and he did say so, then he must be testing the waters to see reactions and stimulate discussions.

You have sense of history!
Kudos to you,brother !

Is it your confusion? Face front!

Macphenson:
You people already said you are not Igbos so why exhibiting this confusion?

KGBKremlin:


Creating Igbo state in Benin land are you people normal?

Is ANIOMA an Edo name?

onuman:
Lol.
It's like asking for Ikwerre, Ahoadas, and other upland areas of Rivers state of SS zone to be created a state and joined to the SE zone.
Anioma is in the SS zone. Talk for now is about creating a merited and deserved 6th state in the SE zone.
If future states are to be created, that's when agitation for Anioma State comes up.

what are you talking about?,,,,ok you want to create another fiefdom where you corrupt Igbo politicians can call the shots! Yours is a minority opinion!

pazienza:


https://www.facebook.com/share/p/z2ms4X6huz1Mdc3v/?mibextid=oFDknk

All these tribal tribal wars. Aren’t we more than this ? South west , south South , I tire .
I am Nigerian every other thing is minute.

ggood:
there is no Igbo in Akwa ibom , out of the 31 LGAs no Igbo there

Igbos dominates annang in akwa ibom

Konquest:

I doubt if Ned Nwoko as a brilliant international lawyer who is from Aniocha North LGA made this statement of referring to the proposed Anioma State as the "6th South East" state because he knows full well that the people that make up what is NOW known as Anioma ancestrally come from multiple ethnic groups of Bini, Esan, Yoruba, Igala, Nri, etc. Several towns in the different parts of Anioma know their ancestral origins and NOBODY can just push everybody to join the South East. This is the reason why when the Nigerian Civil War took place the bearded rebel leader and his group of secessionists did NOT dare to include Delta North in the rebel enclave. Even the people of Onitsha (as told by Olisa Agbakoba, SAN, who granted an interview in 2006 where he said he and his older teenage brother were arrested and forcibly conscripted by the secessionists during the two-years-six months Nigerian Civil War. Olisa Agbakoba's lawyer father was in Lagos during the War) who are an Anioma people on the Eastern side of River Niger that had been balkanized into the Eastern Region by the British after the Ekumeku War led by Issele Uku and other Anioma allies from Olukumi (Yoruba descent) commanders in Aniocha North and more were NOT enthusiastic about joining the so-called secession in 1967. This is also why Dr. Ukpabi Asika from Onitsha was the Administrator of the newly created East Central State and did not align with the rebel secessionists.

Even Asaba, Ebu, Illah and Okpanam have significant Igala origins. Nnebisi of Asaba whose father was of Igala ethnicity we know full well from history gave all his children Igala names.

Reverend Father (Dr.) Kunirum Osia who is from Obamkpa in Aniocha North in Delta North of Delta State had granted interviews in the past where he emphasized on the mixed ethnic origins of Anioma folksand he said CLEARLY that it is wrong to refer to Delta North as Delta Ibo, so, YOU cannot say that Anioma State is an Ibo State (even though there were migrants some migrants who came areas on the East of River Niger such as Nri). That is HIGHLY irresponsible and Ned Nwoko would NEVER say that, and if the Facebook post is not fake and he did say so, then he must be testing the waters to see reactions and stimulate discussions.

You are talking nonsense.

The people of Urhobo are made of Igbo, Bini, Esan, etc. The Bini are made up of Igbo, Yoruba , Nupe, Esan, Igala, Ijaw!
The Igala is made up of Igbo, Yoruba, Hause, Fulani, Idoma (Okpoto), Junkun.

Yoruba has Ogu, Nupe, Bini, Sudan, etc!

Point being that every ethnic group on this earth has Minorities they assimilated.
Anioma is Igbo, any non Igbo in Anioma has been assimilated and acculturated as Igbo.

Move on!

ggood:
Igbos have started with their disunity, allow Orlu State scale through first

Will you shut up? Anioma State is indeed increasing both landmass and population to South East. Orlu state is sharing the same available land and same population. Learn to reason properly like a human being. Idiocy should not be celebrated.

Where it would be carved out from weren't stated.

..... I wish we could get
Obigbo
Ekpeye
And all our delta brothers and akwaibom and crossriberian igbos plus those in beue and kogi
Together as one state.
NOW THE QUESTION IS, WHO AND WHERE IN AKWA IBOM DO YOU REFER TO AS IBOS AND WHERE CAN YOU FIND THEM IN AKWA IBOM STATE?
If you say brothers and stand on it, I can understand but when you say Akwa Ibom and crossriverian Igbos then you are mixing up things.
No single fellow in Akwa Ibom State where I come from is an Igbo person by origin except of course those that are married into or married to Akwa Ibom. Perhaps the offsprings of such marriage is what you are talking about which ofcourse are indigenes of where their fathers come from.
As for a full blooded Akwa ibomite, we are Ibibio, annang, oron and ofcourse Efik.
We are not IBOS.
WE ARE NEIGHBOURS OF LONG STANDING BUT WE KNOW WHO WE ARE.

amba1:
Where it would be carved out from weren't stated.

Aniomaland is well noted.
It doesn't need to be stated. Aniomaland boundaries are never in dispute.

Ziggylee:
Everyone clamouring for Anioma state are chasing clout,dreams that will never happen.Igbos have not successfully developed the states in their region,they are looking for more additional state. wishful thinking 🤔

You are nobody to dictate for Ndi Anioma what they want.
This call was made by an Anioma son not a person from SE, you should sit down, keep quiet and mind your own ethnic group problems.
What is wrong with you guys?

For having the audacity to state this, is goes to show that you are a condemned fool..

There are no Igbos in Akwa ibom.
An annang man and woman is as well an Ibibio man than Igbo man, you stupid idiot want to gum body by force.
God punish you.
If you say the two inter marry and all that, then it is true but anything farther than that if fa fa fa far.
Idiot..
tiswell post=130409181]Igbos dominates annang in akwa ibom [/quote]

Ziggylee:
Everyone clamouring for Anioma state are chasing clout,dreams that will never happen.Igbos have not successfully developed the states in their region,they are looking for more additional state. wishful thinking 🤔

You will have no choice than to respect the wishes of majority of ANIOMA people who Ned Nwoko represents.
It is their wish not the wish of people of southeast.

[quote author=pazienza post=130402178]

Yes it is.
The SE Senate and house of representatives should now have a consultation meeting with those in Delta North including Igbanke, to work on actualising this noble plan.
Ohaneze Ndiigbo should be the ones to anchor this meeting and make it happen.
The Orlu state agenda is good, but bringing Anioma back home( reunited with kin and kiths in SE) where they belong, and allowing the minorities to move capital of the remnants of Delta state to Warri, is a
win-win situation for all involved.

Anioma is rich in crude oil and gas. Asaba is merging with Onitsha to form a mega metropolis.
The state is brimming with human and natural resources and is very much viable.

Ndiigbo let's push and make this happen![/quote


Oil dey your head.

paramakina202:


You will have no choice than to respect the wishes of majority of ANIOMA people who Ned Nwoko represents.
It is their wish not the wish of people of southeast.

I'm surprised that these minorities (Urhobo, Isoko, Ijaw, Itsekiri) really believe that their wishes, opinions and demands matters if Anioma wish to join SE. Like they see Aniomaland as conquered territory that belongs to them, that they need to be informed or permission taken from them before Anioma can decide her destiny.
It's their audacity and temerity for me. It's dumbfounding.

66spirit:
For having the audacity to state this, is goes to show that you are a condemned fool..

There are no Igbos in Akwa ibom.
An annang man and woman is as well an Ibibio man than Igbo man, you stupid idiot want to gum body by force.
God punish you.
If you say the two inter marry and all that, then it is true but anything farther than that if fa fa fa far.
Idiot..
tiswell post=130409181]Igbos dominates annang in akwa ibom

you just ended up sounding like a legendary Id!ot!

You aren't more akwa ibom than me.

Unam ikot!

pazienza:


https://www.facebook.com/share/p/z2ms4X6huz1Mdc3v/?mibextid=oFDknk

That's the way to go in addition to Anioma in Delta the Igbos in Benue, Rivers, Cross-rivers, and Kogi should also been joined with their kins in the Southeast region. Enough of this confusion and deception.
Likewise the yorubas in Kwara and Kogi should also be joined to their brothers in Southwest region and the Ijaws in Ondo joined to their people in South-south region too.

Zulu11zulu:
wish one is Benin land again I don't understand what is wrong with this people call Yoruba though not all some of illiterate among them are damaging the reputation of good people of yeruba land.

Get a life mr.

You are not different from him. How do you that he is Yoruba?

Barteze:

That's the way to go in addition to Anioma in Delta the Igbos in Benue, Rivers, Cross-rivers, and Kogi should also been joined with their kins in the Southeast region. Enough of this confusion and deception.
Likewise the yorubas in Kwara and Kogi should also be joined to their brothers in Southwest region and the Ijaws in Ondo joined to their people in South-south region too.

Please let's stop playing the Voltron game.
Our concern is only about Anioma for now.
The fate of Yorubas in Kwara or Kogi is non of our business and we don't give a f**king hoot about them. For all we care the North should keep them, after all the Yorubas don't wish us good in our battle to Reunite with our Igbo kin and kiths in SS.

As for Ijaw, for all we care, Yorubas should keep Arogbo and Apoi forever and never release them. We really don't care and will not speak for or against them..
The Ijaw i know have been working steadfastly to annex our Igbos in Bonny and Opobo, as well as making sure Igbo groups in Rivers state remain Igbophobic.

It's about time we started paying evil for evil. We must learn to play Nigerians by same rules they play us.
We defend our interests only and do so ruthlessly and we make sure we maintain tactical silence on other people interests, we don't go about playing the righteous equity game no more.
We keep our peace!

Ndewo.

Orlu state would never materialize as nobody from Anambra state wants to be part of that, so it is much better to shift focus towards Anioma state.

pazienza:


You are talking nonsense.

The people of Urhobo are made of Igbo, Bini, Esan, etc. The Bini are made up of Igbo, Yoruba , Nupe, Esan, Igala, Ijaw!
The Igala is made up of Igbo, Yoruba, Hause, Fulani, Idoma (Okpoto), Junkun.

Yoruba has Ogu, Nupe, Bini, Sudan, etc!

Point being that every ethnic group on this earth has Minorities they assimilated.
Anioma is Igbo, any non Igbo in Anioma has been assimilated and acculturated as Igbo.

Move on!

You have to be guided with some of your highly irresponsible posts here. What you irresponsibly posted is what several Anioma folks including the great Rev. Father (Dr.) Kunirum Osia a prominent Anioma son from Aniocha North LGA (where Ned Nwoko also comes from) have complained about in the past. Kunirum Osia spoke about some of you the Ibos from the South East who have an overbearing penchant for referring to Aniomas as Ibos. He rejected that appellation! In an interview he granted in 2016, he CLEARLY took a swipe at ONLY the Ibos for painting Anioma as Ibos when in fact Anioma is made up of immigrants from different ethnicities that still maintain their DISTINCT ethnic origins e.g Ebu (Igala), Ugbodu and Eko Efun (Olukumis from Yoruba descent), etc. The fact that Americans speak English doesn't mean all Americans are English people. The fact that Brazilians speak Portuguese doesn't mean all Brazilians are Portuguese people. Kunirum Osia made these statements in that 2016 interview.

Your feeble response shows that YOU are an amateur in this game you are playing here. I have been a veteran member of Nairaland since 2005 and I know you to be one of the very notorious and well-known irredentists from the Ibo South East on this NL platform who try to brow-beat others into accepting warped histories and play mind games to intimidate those who are NOT well grounded.

It is instructive that you have been away but suddenly crawled out of where you have been hibernating with that moniker and have started talking in absolute terms in an insidious manner and posting sensationalism and revisionist tales. I have had reasons to burst one of your falsehoods posted on the events leading right up to the Nigerian Civil War and the 1967 states creation on this Website sometime in 2017.

As a well-read veteran of advanced global and Nigerian history including the Nigerian Civil War years we will be very ruthless in observing your every move from here on out with reference to your spread of disinformation. Period.

Konquest:

You have to be guided with some of your highly irresponsible posts here. What you irresponsibly posted is what several Anioma folks including the great Rev. Father (Dr.) Kunirum Osia a prominent Anioma son from Aniocha North LGA (where Ned Nwoko also comes from and spoke about some of you the Ibos from the South East who have an overbearing penchant for referring to Aniomas as Ibos. He rejected that appellation! In an interview he granted, he clearly took a swipe at ONLY the Ibos for painting Anioma as Ibo.

Your feeble response shows YOU are an amateur in this game you are playing here. I have been a veteran member of Nairaland since 2005 and I know you to be one of the very notorious and well-known irredentists from the Ibo South East on this NL platform who try to brow-beat others into accepting warped histories and play mind games to intimidate those who are NOT well grounded.

It is instructive that you have been away but suddenly crawled out of where you have been hibernating with that moniker and have started talking in absolute terms in an insidious manner and posting sensationalism and revisionist tales. I have had reasons to burst one of your falsehoods posted on the events leading right up to the Nigerian Civil War and the 1967 states creation on this Website sometime in 2017.

As a well-read veteran of advanced global and Nigerian history including the Nigerian Civil War years we will be very ruthless in observing your every move from here on out with reference to your spread of disinformation. Period.

Bunch of gibberish.
You have no point to make so you resorted to verbose obfuscation.
Move on bro .

This ned is highly intelligent, the few times he spoke in that assembly, hes always making sense, he should be the senate president....even rivers and crossriver has igbos who can't wait to join South east, create from there and leave Anambra alone

pazienza:


Please let's stop playing the Voltron game.
Our concern is only about Anioma for now.
The fate of Yorubas in Kwara or Kogi is non of our business and we don't give a f**king hoot about them. For all we care the North should keep them, after all the Yorubas don't wish us good in our battle to Reunite with our Igbo kin and kiths in SS.

As for Ijaw, for all we care, Yorubas should keep Arogbo and Apoi forever and never release them. We really don't care and will not speak for or against them..
The Ijaw i know have been working steadfastly to annex our Igbos in Bonny and Opobo, as well as making sure Igbo groups in Rivers state remain Igbophobic.

It's about time we started paying evil for evil. We must learn to play Nigerians by same rules they play us.
We defend our interests only and do so ruthlessly and we make sure we maintain tactical silence on other people interests, we don't go about playing the righteous equity game no more.
We keep our peace!

Ndewo.

My brother to achieve your goal in a democratic setting you need to offer a hand of fellowship build bridges it is called lobbying when you convince people that their interests are aligned with yours they will easily support you. It is a game of numbers in democracy and right now the bitter truth is that we don't have it.

[quote author=Obi1kenobi post=130406111]

At a time when everybody is crying "restructuring" without understanding that it should entail devolution of power from the centre and fiscal federalism, calling for creation of more states within the SE borders makes zero sense. The only way it makes sense is if you want to create the extra state so that the Federal government can give the SE more money. If true federalism is an objective, then given that most states in Nigeria are not economically viable, we should actually be merging states instead of creating more states. The truth is there is no good reason for the SE to get an extra state. We have the smallest regional population, and have by far the smallest landmass, and have by far the most ethnically homogenous region in the country. The agitation to create another SE state has never made any sense to me.[/
🛑 Stop Deceiving ur Self]

Barteze:

My brother to achieve your goal in a democratic setting you need to offer a hand of fellowship build bridges it is called lobbying when you convince people that their interests are aligned with yours they will easily support you. It is a game of numbers in democracy and right now the bitter truth is that we don't have it.

Well the North wants to keep Kogi and Kwara, and they have more numbers in the Senate and house of reps, so maybe supporting them to keep Kwara and Kogi will win us more votes than supporting Yorubas to get Kwara and Kogi back!

Supporting Ijaw to get Apoi and Arogbo will also be seem as an acto of provocation by Yorubas.

Supporting Yorubas to get Kwara and Kogi back will piss off the North who will thwart our own agenda too.

So do the maths!
Between the North with 19 states and SW with just 6 states who would you rather not piss off, if democracy like you noted is a game of numbers?

The point I'm making is that we don't need to support Yorubas to get Kwara and Kogi back or Ijaws to get Arogbo and Apoi back.
We stylishly maintain tactical silence on that and keep pushing our own agenda which is about increasing SE to 6th state by creating Anioma and zoning it to SE.
We let Yorubas and Ijaw worry about themselves.
Chikina!

Why are you disturbing ya sef?

The person you quoted is a Yoruba person. Since this news came out, they have been raving mad on this thread.

I told one of them that sienna #7000 will take them back to ONDO state and the buzu started crying.

The buzu doesn't know the even ibibios are even in Abia State sef..

We dey watch them..

tiswell:
you just ended up sounding like a legendary Id!ot!

You aren't more akwa ibom than me.

Unam ikot!

Lovelyn451:
This ned is highly intelligent....even rivers and akwaibom has igbos who can't wait to join South east, create from there and leave Anambra alone

There are Hausa-Fulani indigenes with native homelands in Kwara, Adamawa, and in other NC and NE states. NW zone is the main zone of Hausa-Fulani.
Do you create states for such Hausa-Fulani groups native outside the NW zone, to reunite them to the NW zone?
There are Yorubas with native homelands in Kwara and other NC states.
Do you create states for such Yorubas in order to reunite them to the SW zone?
Why would Nigeria create states for Igbos native in the SS to reunite them to the SE? Doesn't make sense.
The people using reuniting Igbos in Delta state with Igbos in the SE through creating Anioma State and join it to the SE, are pursuing their parochial agenda.

Amah70:


There are Hausa-Fulani indigenes native homelands in Kwara, Adamawa, and in other NC and NE states. NW zone is the main zone of Hausa-Fulani.
Do you create states for such Hausa-Fulani groups native outside the NW zone, to reunite them to the NW zone?
There are Yorubas with native homelands in Kwara and other NC states.
Do you create states for such Yorubas in order to reunite them to the SW zone?
Why would Nigeria create states for Igbos native in the SS to reunite them to the SE? Doesn't make sense.
The people using reuniting Igbos in Delta state with Igbos in the SE through creating Anioma State and join it to the SE, are pursuing their parochial agenda.

define indigene?