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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 3:59pm On Jun 10
Goodenoch:


Extremely interesting that their plan to fund all of this and fill the shortfalls is very literally a footnote here.

I have read the full statement on their website on how they'd raise the funds and it's similarly vague with a lot of bashing 'bureaucracy, red-tape, quangos, consultants etc.' but very little in the way of actionable plans.

It all sounds very similar to the promises on Farage's Brexit bus. Arguably, the knowledge that they'll never actually have to put up is arguably part of what's fuelling these outlandish promises.

That's why I caveated my comment with "if" their policies can be implemented.

The main parties have faced similar criticism with the IFS accusing both Labour and the Tories of not being open with the public on their costings and the cuts/tax rises they would have to make in order to fund their proposals.

Reform is not aiming to be the ruling government so they arguably don't have to spend too much time costing out plans they won't need to deliver.

However it does provide them with a stick to beat the government with and hold them to account. All governments become complacent given half the chance, and most need an effective opposition to keep them focused. For most people that's the main appeal - bringing more balance into parliament so we don't tip too much to one side.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by humblemoi: 5:24pm On Jun 10
Osoderi:



Sorry visa extension for FLR on Spousa Visa.

Ideally you should use the government website to fill the form after which there are designated points to submit biometrics. You do not have to go to London if it is very far away from you. Please beware of agents
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 6:07pm On Jun 10
iyatrustee:


You must be looking for Shymmex aka Mr Cork cheesy

Oh my God, I am currently in a feud with him because he had the temerity to try to derail my feminist thread with some crude language and awful syntax. I no know say im no well.

Update: he is currently running amok in my mentions.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ehizario2012: 9:52pm On Jun 10
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by toughest007: 12:16am On Jun 11
Lexusgs430:
A word of advice for people seeking cheap vehicle insurance.......

Avoid using agents, it would always end up in tears........😭😭😭

You would lose your money + have a CIFAS marker on your credit report + if you're unlucky to get stopped by the police, you would appear before a magistrate........

Chief, how do you mean cheap? Cheap, expensive are both relative.

I'd be getting one in a couple of weeks and just need you to clarify and shed more light as I'm already comparing quotes on confused dot com et al.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lightnlife: 12:22am On Jun 11
The pumped generation!

I've been really worried about the consumption rate of energy drinks in this UK.

Seeing loads of youngies under 30, unabatedly taking these drinks make me wonder the values of this society.

Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 12:27am On Jun 11
toughest007:


Chief, how do you mean cheap? Cheap, expensive are both relative.

I'd be getting one in a couple of weeks and just need you to clarify and shed more light as I'm already comparing quotes on confused dot com et al.


If you're buying it via legitimate routes, you have nothing to worry about.......

Some people are falling prey to the likes of John, at the pub.......
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by toughest007: 12:35am On Jun 11
Lexusgs430:



If you're buying it via legitimate routes, you have nothing to worry about.......

Some people are falling prey to the likes of John, at the pub.......

Ah, I see... I don't want to believe that those getting it from the back door do so entirely out of ignorance. They probably deserve the consequences.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 1:11am On Jun 11
toughest007:


Ah, I see... I don't want to believe that those getting it from the back door do so entirely out of ignorance. They probably deserve the consequences.

We all love a bargain...... But some bargains are very poisonous.......😯😂

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by deept(m): 3:48am On Jun 11
jedisco:


The relationship with higher taxes and what the govt eventually gets is a complex one.

Somethings are clear-
1. There is an elastic point above which a further increase in tax rates would not bring more income for the government. Some European nations like France found out the hard way.

2. Effective taxation is one of the very few basic measures to ensure redistribution of wealth in a society. Keyword: effective.

3. On a wider scale, most Europeans would choose the higher tax but better social safety and less inequality of Europe to the less tax, higher growth but less social nets of the U.S. On a personal note though, it's different. Reason why Nordic nations or Switzerland with higher tax rates are still sought after.

In GB, yes some folks may leave Scotland but if the Scottish govt is able to use the early rise in income from taxes effectively, (e.g higher education tuition fees e.t.c), many more would move in and they might turn our better overall.

I would agree that there are more effective ways of managing tax e.g reduced the steep effect around tax bands to encourage those around the bands to be more productive, reducing tax rates but making capital gains and PAYE equivalent. Taxing long-term wealth more effectively and a few others. But always remember that any tax change always comes with unforseen outcomes.

In summary, it's not as straightforward as it seems. Only time would tell.

Good submission.

My point is higher taxes increases risk of capital flights.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Gerrard59(m): 4:06am On Jun 11
Zahra29:


Agree completely, but any suggestions on how this can be achieved when the prevailing advice is to "japa at all costs" and many japarees would rather seek asylum than return to their homeland with their recently acquired degrees?

It depends on the political elites. They must have that sense of nationhood and the resolve to prosper at all costs. Once that political will is present, they develop the country with the talents available in the country. As the country prospers, nobody go tell those outside to move to Nigeria and contribute their quota.

Chinese political elites have done it. IF we as black people cannot do, anything wey black people receive outside the sub-continent, they should take it like that.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 5:10am On Jun 11
deept:


Good submission.

My point is higher taxes increases risk of capital flights.

But what capital? They are using every loopholes to evade taxes. Money in offshore companies,factories in Asia.

What are we losing in real terms?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by vikaosi: 6:23am On Jun 11
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hyzich(m): 8:15am On Jun 11
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 11:52am On Jun 11
@babejeje, has your friend been re-enrolled by Teeside? Article below says some students have been reinstated while a small group have been offered financial support to fund flights back to Nigeria and asked to complete their studies in Nigeria or reapply at a later date.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx004z4k22go

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by DoubleN(m): 12:01pm On Jun 11
Hi All,

Please what's the most cost-effective way to receive USD in a Nigerian Dorm account or Dollar Card? It's a small amount and the SWIFT charge via bank transfer is not it at all.

Thanks.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Ladyzain: 1:00pm On Jun 11
Hello my elders,
Thank you for all your invaluable advice on this platform.

I am presently on maternity leave working in an NHS Trust.
I attended a cultural festival here in the UK where I had the opportunity of putting down my name as volunteer to interpret for people from my ethnic background.
They plan to pay 20 pounds per hour and pay cost of travel time to any hospital or wherever the service user need the service.
My concern is since am on maternity pay presently,
If I get paid will I be breeching terms of my contract as am on maternity leave.
Meanwhile, I have explained to them my present circumstances and they said its a volunteer work that I won't run into any trouble.

My elders I need your opinion
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 1:18pm On Jun 11
Ladyzain:
Hello my elders,
Thank you for all your invaluable advice on this platform.

I am presently on maternity leave working in an NHS Trust.
I attended a cultural festival here in the UK where I had the opportunity of putting down my name as volunteer to interpret for people from my ethnic background.
They plan to pay 20 pounds per hour and pay cost of travel time to any hospital or wherever the service user need the service.
My concern is since am on maternity pay presently,
If I get paid will I be breeching terms of my contract as am on maternity leave.
Meanwhile, I have explained to them my present circumstances and they said its a volunteer work that I won't run into any trouble.

My elders I need your opinion



You’re getting paid per hour and for time in transit.

That’s NOT volunteer work.

Doing it while receiving maternity pay would be fraud with consequences ranging from being asked to resume/repay the OMP you have received, or suspension/dismissal.

Not worth the risk. Don’t do it.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 1:53pm On Jun 11
Perusing the libdem manifesto- they seem to be a breath of fresh air and are ready to have a grown up conversation on topical issues. e.g immigration- they are looking at it from a need perspective and deciding where and how many rather than the Tories (Reform) who go would the populist narrative of 'we dont need them' but then turn around and open the flood gates.

Also, they seem to be the largest part with a reasonable percentage in England looking to reenact Brexit. I'm mixed on this. Rejoining the EU would not necessarily favour the African community in the UK esp those looking to move in. It would favour those already here as they can traverse Europe and retire wherever easily. Regarding the effect on the economy, its a mixed bag.

I'm leaning towards them. It also helps that they have a good chance in my area.

https://www.libdems.org.uk/manifesto

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by babajeje123(m): 1:59pm On Jun 11
Zahra29:
@babejeje, has your friend been re-enrolled by Teeside? Article below says some students have been reinstated while a small group have been offered financial support to fund flights back to Nigeria and asked to complete their studies in Nigeria or reapply at a later date.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx004z4k22go
Heard they only reinstated some of the January '24 intakes.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 2:07pm On Jun 11
The gift that keeps on giving. Keep milking the cow.

You don't want immigrants but after paying tax and NI, they are the one which are needed to susidise fees for local students, taxed specially for the NHS (which they seldom use), fund a rise in pay for civil servants and now fund 8000 more police officers.... and yet, you still don't want immigrants. As migrants, its worth knowing the burden we carry and our importance to the system.

It's odd how the populace wants lower taxes, low immigration and at same investment (whatever that means) in the local labour force. Ask where the money would come from and folks start twiddling their thumbs.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by AgentXxx(m): 2:19pm On Jun 11
Nothing is happening than organisations aren’t spending enough on their IT and Security Department.
ehizario2012:
https://metro.co.uk/2024/06/10/nhs-makes-urgent-call-blood-donors-following-major-cyberattack-21003172/amp/

What's happening with these constant cyber hacks?

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 2:42pm On Jun 11
Manifesto don land o!. Rishi, what does it say ? Thoughts?

Unfortunately I won't be able to look at it before the weekend and Labour's will be there by then.

Thoughts,anyone? Apparently it's uncosted. Is that true?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 2:44pm On Jun 11
jedisco:
Perusing the libdem manifesto- they seem to be a breath of fresh air and are ready to have a grown up conversation on topical issues. e.g immigration- they are looking at it from a need perspective and deciding where and how many rather than the Tories (Reform) who go would the populist narrative of 'we dont need them' but then turn around and open the flood gates.

Also, they seem to be the largest part with a reasonable percentage in England looking to reenact Brexit. I'm mixed on this. Rejoining the EU would not necessarily favour the African community in the UK esp those looking to move in. It would favour those already here as they can traverse Europe and retire wherever easily. Regarding the effect on the economy, its a mixed bag.

I'm leaning towards them. It also helps that they have a good chance in my area.

https://www.libdems.org.uk/manifesto

Very good .Tactical voting is where it's at. Are these plans costed?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 3:45pm On Jun 11
Gerrard59:


It depends on the political elites. They must have that sense of nationhood and the resolve to prosper at all costs. Once that political will is present, they develop the country with the talents available in the country. As the country prospers, nobody go tell those outside to move to Nigeria and contribute their quota.

Chinese political elites have done it. IF we as black people cannot do, anything wey black people receive outside the sub-continent, they should take it like that.

Surely it also depends on the people, at the very least to use their vote more judiciously and to hold their leaders to account.

There's a saying, "in a democracy, the people get the leaders they deserve', or in other words, "the government you elect is the government you deserve". The leaders are largely a reflection of the people, and vice versa
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 3:49pm On Jun 11
missjekyll:


Very good .Tactical voting is where it's at. Are these plans costed?

Lol not really, just a nice wish list because Libdems are not expecting to be the ruling government and execute any of their plans.

Plus they have proposed a hefty tax on second homes, just fyi as you are opposed to additional taxation.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Ladyzain: 3:50pm On Jun 11
Thank you for your candid advise
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 3:54pm On Jun 11
jedisco:
The gift that keeps on giving. Keep milking the cow.

You don't want immigrants but after paying tax and NI, they are the one which are needed to susidise fees for local students, taxed specially for the NHS (which they seldom use), fund a rise in pay for civil servants and now fund 8000 more police officers.... and yet, you still don't want immigrants. As migrants, its worth knowing the burden we carry and our importance to the system.

It's odd how the populace wants lower taxes, low immigration and at same investment (whatever that means) in the local labour force. Ask where the money would come from and folks start twiddling their thumbs.

Nowhere have they, or their manifesto, espoused zero migration or said that they don't want immigrants. So this statement is misleading.

Their proposals are to reduce net migration levels from the current unsustainable, record high levels to about half the number, which would still be the highest on record but at least a bit more reasonable.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 3:56pm On Jun 11
babajeje123:

Heard they only reinstated some of the January '24 intakes.

Were all those affected from Jan 24 intake?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 3:56pm On Jun 11
missjekyll:


Very good .Tactical voting is where it's at. Are these plans costed?

They have posted an document ( https://www.libdems.org.uk/sums ) on how these would be funded. Largely by reversing some tax cuts to banks and by higher taxes but not on ordinary citizens. While there might be some areas needing further details, overall nothing jumps out. At least, it does not include further tax on migrants/students and not the air castles Reform are promising.

The IFS has also reviewed their plans and nothing odd so far:
https://ifs.org.uk/articles/liberal-democrat-manifesto-reaction

Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ReesheesuKnack: 4:39pm On Jun 11
missjekyll:
Manifesto don land o!. Rishi, what does it say ? Thoughts?

Unfortunately I won't be able to look at it before the weekend and Labour's will be there by then.

Thoughts,anyone? Apparently it's uncosted. Is that true?


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I don see the thing. E be like say last last na Orange 🍊 get me ohh.
Red - I no trust.
Blue- dey fall hand eventhough na my namesake be leader.
Yellow- I kukuma no dey Alba town

That’s my problem with this Parliamentary thing joor.. and my local MP is a very decent individual ohh

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