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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 5:24pm On Jun 11 |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 5:25pm On Jun 11 |
budaatum: In both cases Trump and Hunter, I believe the name of the defendant played a part These 2 are cases normally overlooked but to make a political statement both were high profiled |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 5:27pm On Jun 11 |
budaatum: There are multiple layers that catches corruption It's like a layered defence in depth approach where if one fails one gets it The system overall still works that's why we are not a banana republic yet |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 5:27pm On Jun 11 |
bemeruca: You should ask the West why it took them so long. Perhaps its because they did not have enough weapons yet considering they were not prepared for war. Go study the Hitler War. It took the West a long time to attack Hitler's Germany too. In fact, Britain waited until Hitler had occupied France all of most of Europe, and was just across the Channel before they attacked Germany. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 5:33pm On Jun 11 |
raumdeuter: The last few days have been me arguing that the United States is not a banana republic so they can't get away making 4 black votes equal 1 white vote, but I've been informed that I am ignorant and don't know what I'm talking about because I don't live in America, so, sorry, I don't believe you. Show me your America Passport or your entry visa on you non-American passport to prove you are in America please. You may email it to me using the email on my profile. Photos of bridges will not be accepted. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 5:35pm On Jun 11 |
budaatum: Well, you can see children involved in killing a man. In Palestine, they are always innocent even if they have held guns before their 10th bday and waged war on Israel. when they get to 16 to 19 and die in the war while carrying RPGs they will be recorded as innocent children. that's not to say innocent children are not dying, they are. War is shit. people with this belief that you will die if you are seen as blasphemous are in the UK. it is just a matter of time when they feel they have the numbers. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 5:36pm On Jun 11 |
raumdeuter: Only my personal bias would make me believe what you believe. While Hunter's case is straight forward guilty, dump should have been imprisoned just for his contempt and stupid antics during the trial, and it was his past position that saved him. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 5:39pm On Jun 11 |
budaatum: they have the weapons, but they restrict their use. the restriction was Ukraine only use them inside Ukraine, which was a waste of time and money. All those weapons they have been giving to Ukraine were a waste. if they did the right thing from the start, the war should have ended by now, who knows? this scenario is different. we are talking about the survival of Ukraine here. Hitler overran nations before Britain entered. they should learn from that and not allow Russia to overrun Ukraine from the get-go. Now it will be difficult to retake the grounds Russia took. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 5:42pm On Jun 11 |
bemeruca: This is the reason I disagree with my I live in America friend. I don't create some imaginary fear and start fighting it. When anyone terrorises in UK we don't just turn our heads and let them be. Though, in contradiction of that, go read up about terrorist IRA and Sinn Fein their political wing who now can sit in parliament, to understand how complex the law can sometimes be. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 5:51pm On Jun 11 |
happney65: I keep going back and forth with Budattum about the dangers of right wing propaganda. Because it infiltrates the system. I'm not calling you out but this is an example. The point of Justice wearing a blind fold is that Justice should be meated out fairly and without favor. So, if you look at the plea deal, it was actually HARSHER than anyone else would have gotten. But Republicans politicized it and made the Trump appointed prosecutor backtrack. How do we know it was harsher, we can easily compare comparable cases. This gun case is rarely if every charged without an underlying crime. The Tax case is rarely charged criminally if people pay back their taxes. These aren't subjective statements, they can be objectively verified by going back and looking at similar cases. But Republicans politicized it, propagandized with the "sweetheart deal" verbiage. And good people repeat it and believe that he was in fact getting a sweetheart deal when he wasn't. Here is Trey Gowdy, no friend of the Biden's, who was a Prosecutor on this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvstdFw-g-I |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 5:54pm On Jun 11 |
budaatum: the fear is not imaginary. they are telling you what is coming and they are also showing snippets of what is coming. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 6:03pm On Jun 11 |
ijebosb: See,I understand your point. For and against. However if the parties involved are not okay with the judgement there is a chance for an appeal isnt it? Cool. But the fact that the son of a sitting president can be found guilty on crimes he committed is a good one. This can only happen in the united states' of America. We hope in Nigeria,the son of a sitting president,EG Seyi Tinubu can be tried too of crimes he committed. If he didn't commit any crime,you know there is nothing to charge him with. We in Nigeria would love us to experience such justice system,But hey,Back home,out justice system is for the highest bidder 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:04pm On Jun 11 |
bemeruca: So, you agree that magas must be eliminated because they are showing snippets that they will make 4 black votes equal 1 white vote and ban my body my choice and black lives won't matter? Sorry, but I can't have such stupid fear from from snippets, and I don't mind waiting to conquer you on election day, which I even expect lots of Rinos to help me ensure you lose. As for we Brits, we will take care of ourselves in our very liberal way. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:07pm On Jun 11 |
budaatum: the ones burning and threatening people, Rioting, burning churches, Courts, police departments, etc. are not MAGA. the thing is, even the Vice president and the other politicians support the rioters. they even ask them to confront Judges and politicians. MAGA are not the ones doing all that. Well, don't vilify the ones who do then. We saw how Europe voted, the Media is calling them Far Right. in France, the left is rioting because they did not like the result. there is nothing liberal about Islam. ask Iran. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 6:10pm On Jun 11 |
budaatum:This whole thing is a non-sequitur. I honestly don't even understand what this means. Let's leave alone the usage of the term "banana republic". People have somewhat contorted the meaning. The rule of law is determined by what the law is. At a point the constitution said a black person was equal to 3/4 a white person. Was that a "banana republic" based on what I think ur usage is? budaatum: You sound hurt, emotional and increasingly ridiculous. How many times have you spoken about me now? Grow up. Some of the things you say betray an ignorance of the US. Of course they do. As would some of the things I say would, if I spoke at length about the UK, only being there for short periods. Or did you think by watching US news, never studying US history, government and not ever stepping foot in the US, you'd know everything? There is that pride/ego I'm talking about. The truth is you can't know what you don't know. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 6:11pm On Jun 11 |
happney65: The plea deal wasn't thrown out because he's a Biden. Judge saw through the diversion agreement in the plea deal. It was meant to immunize Hunter from any other crimes, tax evasion, compliance to acting as unregistered FARA agent etc. Which Congress is bringing up in referrals to DOJ because Hunter is still unindicted for acting for foreigners without registration. Flynn and Manafort were strung along with FARA. Hunter, nothing yet despite proof of selling out it America to foreigners. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:13pm On Jun 11 |
ijebosb: can someone be friends with you? Me and Raumdeuter disagree on many things and many times we agree to disagree. you can do the same with budaatum since both of you are on the same side. You are talking about emotions here when Budaatum is not emotional about this. HURT? what are you talking about? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:14pm On Jun 11 |
ijebosb: Of course it was a banana republic And it definitely would be a banana republic if said now. Or wouldn't you call a nation that does that today a banana republic unless you lived there? |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:16pm On Jun 11 |
bemeruca: I'm laughing my head off. The stupid idiot (had to add that to remind him, sorry), is defending buda. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 6:18pm On Jun 11 |
happney65: I agree with this sentiment and I think that's the reason why Biden is so determined to show that the RULE of LAW works by saying he won't pardon his son. He did commit a crime. And he was found guilty of it. But normally the Justice system works to advance Social policy. And brings cases to do such. The Justice system spent millions of dollars to convict an addict of having a gun for 10 days based on the fact he wrote a book to help others and called the police to report the gun his sister threw away What policy goals does this serve? And we haven't talked about how this treats one person differently than others. Weed is a controlled substance. So technically millions of Americans who smoke weed and own guns should be facing criminal charges as well like Hunter Biden. This was an overzealous prosecution. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:20pm On Jun 11 |
budaatum: Lmao. I don't know why people will come on the internet and take everything so seriously. Yesterday, I visited the white house as protesters protest. Biden was glad to receive me as a guest and showed me around as long as I didn't take photos or record anything. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:27pm On Jun 11 |
bemeruca: Me, I'm watching CNN emotionally claim a lot of people use marijuana for medical reasons, as if Hunter was using crack cocaine for medical reasons, lol. Americans can make me laugh. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 6:29pm On Jun 11 |
ijebosb: The guy was clearly guilty. Recap.. not happy because he has not been charged with FARA violations. Every claim of the defense seemed to collapse in the first two days of the trial. The defense argued that Hunter did not check the box on the gun form, so the prosecutors called the employee who watched him fill out the form. It claimed he was not using drugs at the time, so the prosecutors read texts from the next day in which Hunter sought to buy crack and called a series of witnesses on his continual use of crack during the period. The defense previously claimed the laptop showed evidence of tampering, so the prosecutor called a FBI agent establishing that there is no evidence of tampering and that the laptop is authentic. The defense claimed that Hunter just wandered into the store and was pressured to buy a gun, so prosecutors called an employee who testified that Hunter came in specifically wanting to buy a gun. As previously discussed, the lack of a defense is becoming glaringly obvious as is the nullification strategy. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:34pm On Jun 11 |
budaatum: illegal drugs are illegal drugs
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:36pm On Jun 11 |
President Biden's statement on his son's conviction. "As I said last week, I am the president, but I am also a dad. Jill and I love our son, and we are so proud of the man he is today,” he said. The only other thing he didn't say and which I wish he had said is, "no one is above the law". 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:38pm On Jun 11 |
bemeruca: CNN is gaslighting by making it sound like Hunter's drug was marijuana which many see as a less harmful drug and is legal in some states, and not crack cocaine that is not legal anywhere. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 6:39pm On Jun 11 |
The case “seemed like a waste of taxpayer dollars,” one female juror told CNN.https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/hunter-biden-trial-06-11-24#h_49def32184abfa994afffb9347a238e3 |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:40pm On Jun 11 |
budaatum: Hunter only uses his camera when he sees a prostitute or cocaine. they need to gaslight. i am sure people will see the other side on social media |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 6:41pm On Jun 11 |
budaatum: Marijuana is illegal federally. This was a federal prosecution. Hunter lied on a federal gun form. So, anyone who smokes marijuana should be prosecuted just as Hunter was. That is the point CNN is making. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:50pm On Jun 11 |
ijebosb: Most see a difference between a schedule 1 drug marijuana and schedule 2 drug crack cocaine, so I don't see the point of the false equivalence. And nor do I accept the argument that he was charged only because of whom he is, since the same argument can be made for dump's conviction in NY, which CNN conveniently did not make at the time, and even for Bobrisky's conviction in Nigeria. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:53pm On Jun 11 |
ijebosb: Yet, she sat on the jury and convicted, as the evidence required her to. Guess that is sufficient evidence that USA is not bananas. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:55pm On Jun 11 |
Lol!
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