budaatum:


What regular Joes? My knowledgeable live in America friend has said here that no one would have been charged with this crime if their name was not Biden, so there can't be any regular Joes to compare his sentence with.

budaatum:


So, justice prevailed against Hunter just as it did against dump?

budaatum:


Does it? Sorry, but do you live in the United States of America?

I must ask because I'm told only those who live in America are intelligent enough to know if the system works or not in America.

bemeruca:
@budaatum, it took a lot of time but now the West has grown some balls and lifted the restriction from Ukraine to hit inside Russia.

raumdeuter:


The system overall still works that's why we are not a banana republic yet

budaatum:


Who are they not considered extremist by? You?

I consider them murderers, which I think is far worse than considering them extremists. Unfortunately, I don't get to make the laws in Pakistan. If I did make the law in Pakistan, and if they were tried and found guilty, I'd make sure their penalty is death too. And not because they killed a Christian, but for the simple fact they killed a human being.

raumdeuter:


In both cases Trump and Hunter, I believe the name of the defendant played a part.

budaatum:


You should ask the West why it took them so long.

Perhaps its because they did not have enough weapons yet considering they were not prepared for war.

Go study the Hitler War. It took the West a long time to attack Hitler's Germany too. In fact, Britain waited until Hitler had occupied France all of most of Europe, and was just across the Channel before they attacked Germany.

bemeruca:

it is just a matter of time when they feel they have the numbers.

happney65:


Of course. But because the system still working well,his plea deal was thrown out of the window.

So when you people want to talk about weaponisng the DOJ,I hope you can look yourself in the mirror and see your hypocrisy.

Anyone found guilty should have his day in court.

Be you a Former President or the Son of a sitting president

budaatum:


This is the reason I disagree with my I live in America friend. I don't create some imaginary fear and start fighting it.

When anyone terrorises in UK we don't just turn our heads and let them be. Though, in contradiction of that, go read up about terrorist IRA and Sinn Fein their political wing who now can sit in parliament, to understand how complex the law can sometimes be.

ijebosb:


I keep going back and forth with Budattum about the dangers of right wing propaganda. Because it infiltrates the system.
I'm not calling you out but this is an example.
The point of Justice wearing a blind fold is that Justice should be meated out fairly and without favor.

So, if you look at the plea deal, it was actually HARSHER than anyone else would have gotten.
But Republicans politicized it and made the Trump appointed prosecutor backtrack.

How do we know it was harsher, we can easily compare comparable cases.
This gun case is rarely if every charged without an underlying crime.
The Tax case is rarely charged criminally if people pay back their taxes.
These aren't subjective statements, they can be objectively verified by going back and looking at similar cases.

But Republicans politicized it, propagandized with the "sweetheart deal" verbiage. And good people repeat it and believe that he was in fact getting a sweetheart deal when he wasn't.

Here is Trey Gowdy, no friend of the Biden's, who was a Prosecutor on this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvstdFw-g-I

bemeruca:


the fear is not imaginary. they are telling you what is coming and they are also showing snippets of what is coming.

budaatum:


So, you agree that magas must be eliminated because they are showing snippets that they will make 4 black votes equal 1 white vote and ban my body my choice and black lives won't matter?

Sorry, but I can't have such stupid fear from from snippets, and I don't mind waiting to conquer you on election day, which I even expect lots of Rinos to help me ensure you lose.

As for we Brits, we will take care of ourselves in our very liberal way.

budaatum:


The last few days have been me arguing that the United States is not a banana republic so they can't get away making 4 black votes equal 1 white vote, but I've been informed that I am ignorant and don't know what I'm talking about because I don't live in America, so, sorry, I don't believe you.

budaatum:

Show me your America Passport or your entry visa on you non-American passport to prove you are in America please. You may email it to me using the email on my profile. Photos of bridges will not be accepted.

happney65:


Of course. But because the system still working well,his plea deal was thrown out of the window.

So when you people want to talk about weaponisng the DOJ,I hope you can look yourself in the mirror and see your hypocrisy.

Anyone found guilty should have his day in court.

Be you a Former President or the Son of a sitting president

ijebosb:

This whole thing is a non-sequitur. I honestly don't even understand what this means. Let's leave alone the usage of the term "banana republic". People have somewhat contorted the meaning. The rule of law is determined by what the law is. At a point the constitution said a black person was equal to 3/4 a white person. Was that a "banana republic" based on what I think ur usage is?



You sound hurt, emotional and increasingly ridiculous. How many times have you spoken about me now? Grow up.

Some of the things you say betray an ignorance of the US. Of course they do. As would some of the things I say would, if I spoke at length about the UK, only being there for short periods. Or did you think by watching US news, never studying US history, government and not ever stepping foot in the US, you'd know everything? There is that pride/ego I'm talking about. The truth is you can't know what you don't know.

ijebosb:

At a point the constitution said a black person was equal to 3/4 a white person. Was that a "banana republic" based on what I think ur usage is?

bemeruca:


can someone be friends with you?

Me and Raumdeuter disagree on many things and many times we agree to disagree. you can do the same with budaatum since both of you are on the same side.
You are talking about emotions here when Budaatum is not emotional about this. HURT? what are you talking about?

happney65:



See,I understand your point. For and against.

However if the parties involved are not okay with the judgement there is a chance for an appeal isnt it?

Cool.

But the fact that the son of a sitting president can be found guilty on crimes he committed is a good one. This can only happen in the united states' of America.

We hope in Nigeria,the son of a sitting president,EG Seyi Tinubu can be tried too of crimes he committed.

If he didn't commit any crime,you know there is nothing to charge him with.

We in Nigeria would love us to experience such justice system,But hey,Back home,out justice system is for the highest bidder

budaatum:


I'm laughing my head off. The stupid idiot (had to add that to remind him, sorry), is defending buda.

bemeruca:


Lmao.
I don't know why people will come on the internet and take everything so seriously. Yesterday, I visited the white house as protesters protest. Biden was glad to receive me as a guest and showed me around as long as I didn't take photos or record anything.

ijebosb:


I agree with this sentiment and I think that's the reason why Biden is so determined to show that the RULE of LAW works by saying he won't pardon his son.

He did commit a crime. And he was found guilty of it. But normally the Justice system works to advance Social policy. And brings cases to do such. The Justice system spent millions of dollars to convict an addict of having a gun for 10 days based on the fact he wrote a book to help others and called the police to report the gun his sister threw away What policy goals does this serve?

And we haven't talked about how this treats one person differently than others. Weed is a controlled substance. So technically millions of Americans who smoke weed and own guns should be facing criminal charges as well like Hunter Biden.

This was an overzealous prosecution.

budaatum:


Me, I'm watching CNN emotionally claim a lot of people use marijuana for medical reasons, as if Hunter was using crack cocaine for medical reasons, lol.

Americans can make me laugh.

"As I said last week, I am the president, but I am also a dad. Jill and I love our son, and we are so proud of the man he is today,” he said.

The younger Biden, a 51-year-old Yale-educated attorney and lobbyist turned visual artist, has admitted to struggling with addiction for decades. His father said he can relate to the “many families who have had loved ones battle addiction” and he shares “the feeling of pride” at seeing a relative “come out the other side and be so strong and resilient in recovery” after overcoming alcohol or drug dependency.

The president added that he ”will accept the outcome of this case and will continue to respect the judicial process” while his son considers whether to appeal the conviction.

He also said he and First Lady Jill Biden “will always be there for Hunter and the rest of our family with our love and support.”

“Nothing will ever change that,” he added.

bemeruca:


illegal drugs are illegal drugs

The case “seemed like a waste of taxpayer dollars,” one female juror told CNN.

budaatum:


CNN is gaslighting by making it sound like Hunter's drug was marijuana which many see as a less harmful drug and is legal in some states, and not crack cocaine that is not legal anywhere.

budaatum:


CNN is gaslighting by making it sound like Hunter's drug was marijuana which many see as a less harmful drug and is legal in some states, and not crack cocaine that is not legal anywhere.

ijebosb:


Marijuana is illegal federally. This was a federal prosecution. Hunter lied on a federal gun form. So, anyone who smokes marijuana should be prosecuted just as Hunter was. That is the point CNN is making.

ijebosb:
The case “seemed like a waste of taxpayer dollars,” one female juror told CNN.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/hunter-biden-trial-06-11-24#h_49def32184abfa994afffb9347a238e3