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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Godstime001: 6:34pm On Jun 13 |
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 7:04pm On Jun 13 |
BlueRayDick: And those that didn't get killed in the shootout what do you think they will do when 20 men are herding 60 people into the bush with at least 20 if them armed? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:20pm On Jun 13 |
raumdeuter: They would’ve disarmed u immediately after the shootout. U think those guys are dull enough to allow u conceal weapon while they are leading u inside the bush ? ![]() Did u not read the part where the guy mentioned how his vehicle was ransacked ? Even the phone he hid under the car seat they located it. If people are allowed to carry weapons , the kidnappers will be more deadlier sef . The initial shootout will always be highly fatal. And only the few that survived will be taxed for huge ransoms after they must have disarmed them. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 7:24pm On Jun 13 |
raumdeuter: You have watched too many movies jare. No be your police for Texas wey fear for their life the other day in a school shooting? What makes heroism work in the US is that you have a working alert system and you know that someone has called the cavalry. So all you have to do is hold off the Indians till reinforcements arrive, called in by 911. In Nigeria you are often on your own in the city, so how much more are you on your own in the middle of a bush surrounded by murderers who are supported by the locals and the police? 3 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 7:26pm On Jun 13 |
BlueRayDick: And while they are disarming them 20 kidnappers to 60 hostages, the hostages will just be looking like dundee? Three shots the kidnappers will flee, no one wants to die. If one of the kidnapper get dropped the others will flee If kidnappers believe at least 20 people can be armed, they won't go on such journey in the first place, they always look for soft targets and most of Nigeria is a soft target except for barracks which is why they hardly attack barracks except you are a terrorist ready to die not those hoping to collect ransom |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 7:31pm On Jun 13 |
GloriousGbola: The hostage takers always look for soft targets e.g elementary schools, malls where unarmed people are. How many of these mentally unstable people pick on a gun range to test his mental illness? It's only when they see elementary school where no one is armed that they become mentally ill In the US many people are armed which is why you know others will come to your aid Below is a typical example inside a church, they didn't dial 911, they didn't wait for police they handled the intruder without those armed parishioners the gunman will kill until bullet finish or he's satisfied like Fulanis do to Benue and Plateau churches https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53hleVLARbE?si=h0vSOUwxzhSq1FRI Neighborhood robbers in Nigeria the moment they know there might be ex soldiers or soldiers in a neighborhood they avoid it and go to unprotected places where 1million boys gang will come and be raping housewives and daughters while the man of the house looks on helplessly 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:35pm On Jun 13 |
raumdeuter: U obviously don’t follow the timeline of how the attacks/kidnappings are carried out. While u are driving on speed u will just see bullets flying into ur windshield . The kidnappers have an element of surprise . Or are u saying everybody will be driving with one hand and the other hand on their own gun also spraying bullets into the air ? Even if u carry a gun with u, it is difficult for u to escape such attacks especially when the kidnappers are laying in ambush waiting for u. The solution is not people carrying guns but for our security as a nation to be beefed up. There are so many under-policed space in the country . By the way, I think the guy said the kidnappers were like 35 in number . Almost even their victims’ number sef |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 7:45pm On Jun 13 |
BlueRayDick: the real problem is the police are not ready to do police work there is n way they are not getting support from communities or other cattle rearers but knowing our police, they collect thier cut and that is that |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 7:59pm On Jun 13 |
Is there an agreement that the last to leave is a fool cos I'm not understanding these exits. 5 Likes
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 8:01pm On Jun 13 |
BlueRayDick: If the kidnappers are trying to kill everybody that's a different matter but they want to take some people alive which pose a different challenge People will die including the kidnappers and they don't want that, they want the monopoly of terror, they want to kill and not be harmed 3 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 8:01pm On Jun 13 |
Spy360:Very brilliant speech honestly. Let's hope Tinubu who isn't from the military like Buhari will release those end Sars prisoners. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 8:07pm On Jun 13 |
GloriousGbola: Real police work is dirty and many of us are not ready for it. Some of the dirty police work involves harassment of some people who might be innocent and invasion of privacy Like with Sars Even in America there are places where 10 people can get shot and no single person will snitch including the families of those killed So when police harass everyone to get information it becomes another scandal While police remain with a big targets on their backs you get more props for killing cops. It's a tough and almost thankless job. I can't do it. I won't advice anyone to do it and big respect to anyone who chooses to |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 8:18pm On Jun 13 |
I actually understand ![]() 2 Likes
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:18pm On Jun 13 |
raumdeuter: The kidnappers know they can die the moment they chose the criminal way of life ; same can’t be said for other law abiding citizens who are their victims . U have not answered my question . How does carrying a gun save u from kidnappers who lay in ambush waiting for and then proceeded to shoot at ur vehicle ? The guy narrated his own experience which was similar to what the other lady on agidigbo fm narrated in the YouTube video. How u wan shoot back at people u didn’t even know were laying in ambush waiting for u ? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 8:21pm On Jun 13 |
raumdeuter: You dey advocate for mass murder laidis |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 8:30pm On Jun 13 |
Back in the days, Coaches and Luxury buses usually travel with an armed escort to protect them from robbers Well, it made it worse and they had to stop. The robbers didn't have the patience to stop the bus and rob. They opened fire immediately they saw one. The fact that you have no weapon on you gives you a higher chance to survive. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:35pm On Jun 13 |
izzou: Exactly . Back then the first casualties during such robberies are usually the armed escorts . |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:39pm On Jun 13 |
GloriousGbola: How do u want police officers to put their lives on the line when there’s no guarantee their loved ones will get life insurance payout if they die in action? Nigeria police are not motivated to the extent of facing armed gangs with automatic weapons . Hope u remember this guy below who Jejely hid himself while the last robbery in Kogi was taking place ? ![]()
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GrammarNazi1(m): 8:39pm On Jun 13 |
raumdeuter: I watched a video on YouTube of how a woman shot a police officer. The officer was as civil and professional as possible, giving the woman too much freedom while he was interrogating her. What did the officer get in return? Gunshots. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zFrF8PCR08?si=tQ1N3UIE7JBCttGC |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 8:54pm On Jun 13 |
Roland17: Mass murder? What is the one happening in Plateau and Benue called? In that kidnapping twitter thread the guy said he saw many villages abandoned, previous inhabitants killed or fled why? because there was always one side who had the gun As shocking as it may be, there is another village going to be raided this weekend, the inhabitants probably are aware and are just like chicken waiting in the cage for their turn for slaughter 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 8:56pm On Jun 13 |
BlueRayDick: The kidnappers are not ready to die that is why they collect ransom, dead men dont spend ransom. Criminals are different from Terrorists. Terrorists are ready to die, criminals want to enjoy life after their actions When he shoots at your vehicle, the motive is to stop people not to kill everyone, if he shoots and kill everyone then who will pay him ransom or what does he gain? just to see blood? Kidnappers do it for a reward and only people alive can pay that reward 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 8:58pm On Jun 13 |
izzou: How has that been working for the people in Plateau, Kaduna Benue etc I remember the trial of Zamani Lekwot, his main crime against the Fulani was that he armed his own people. That act got the Fulani people upset. How dare you have a weapon to defend yourself instead of just laying down and wait your turn Why do herdmen slow down when they know Ebubeagu or Amotekun are around vs a village they know everyone is depending on prayers 5 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 9:02pm On Jun 13 |
GrammarNazi1: There is a reason many of us will not want to be police officers. This man too wanted to get home t his family but in the line of his work thats the hazard he ran into For me I am always respectful and grateful to law enforcements, Its them putting their lives on the line thats making regular folks to go to bed and sleep 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:03pm On Jun 13 |
raumdeuter: They didn’t need everybody alive . They shoot at as many vehicles as possible ; some people will get injured in the shootings while others will die . It is the few that survive that they collect ransom from. They don’t mind to kill some of the hostages , u read where the guy mentioned how they are willing to kill anybody that slows them down or gives them problem . Carrying gun will never solve the problem 👎 |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 9:07pm On Jun 13 |
BlueRayDick: So how do they know the few people that survived wont be carrying a weapon? If they attack 40 people kill 10, How do they know how many of the 30 remaining who are armed? You know why the kidnappers were bold to walk around and pick each of the survivors from their cars? Because they know all of them not a single one is armed. If they are going to one car and they hear gunshot and one of the kidnappers down, do you think they will proceed? or run back into the forest The reason why robbers will write letters informing you they are coming, keep to the date, stay for 6hrs even cook food and rape peoples wifes and daughters is because they know all these are lame ducks and can offer very little resistance |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 9:15pm On Jun 13 |
raumdeuter: I can also make the same arguement for ISWAP. Villages who surrender to them get to live. The ones that fought back get to count casualties (mostly our uniformed men) My goal is to live, not to kill 20 robbers and get shot by the 21st one. I'll rather bet on begging them to let me live, than shooting 2 and still get killed. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 9:18pm On Jun 13 |
izzou:What is the goal of ISWAP and whats the goal of kidnappers If its to collect ransom or kill then will anyone be alive? ISWAP wants you to convert and join them in their struggle for whatever and once you do that they spare you Do you think telling kidnappers or herdsmen that I have confessed kidnaping as my profession, I will join you from today and become a fellow kidnapper/herdsmen " see if they will let the person live Begging those kidnappers how well did it work for the kidnapped? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 9:22pm On Jun 13 |
raumdeuter: I don't know if they will let me live, but i am willing to take that risk. My goal is to live, not to kill 500 and still die. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 9:23pm On Jun 13 |
izzou: Why do you think those kidnapped people never thought it will be a great idea to beg the kidnappers Or if they begged, how many of them that begged have been released based on the volume of tears or mercy from the kidnappers Those killed by kidnappers you think they didn't beg hard enough |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by PDPGuy: 9:24pm On Jun 13 |
liveLongNprospa:The presidency should sell the 19-yr old aircraft, and in its place, purchase an A330-900 neo Business Jet. The A330 neo (business jet) is a relatively new jet with a range exceeding 9,000nm, and would be cheaper to maintain. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 9:28pm On Jun 13 |
PDPGuy: Buying a new vehicle might be cheaper than spending on a older dying car 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 9:31pm On Jun 13 |
raumdeuter: More people have been released alive than killed True or False. Even the tweet that brought this talk showed that the guy has been released. Abi na AK47 dem see before dem release am? 1 Like |
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