BlueRayDick:


Those guys would've killed u before u can use ur gun sef. They shoot at cars indiscriminately in a bid to make them stop

raumdeuter:


And those that didn't get killed in the shootout what do you think they will do when 20 men are herding 60 people into the bush with at least 20 if them armed?

raumdeuter:


And those that didn't get killed in the shootout what do you think they will do when 20 men are herding 60 people into the bush with at least 20 if them armed?

BlueRayDick:


They would’ve disarmed u immediately after the shootout. U think those guys are dull enough to allow u conceal weapon while they are leading u inside the bush ?

Did u not read the part where the guy mentioned how his vehicle was ransacked ? Even the phone he hid under the car seat they located it.

If people are allowed to carry weapons , the kidnappers will be more deadlier sef . The initial shootout will always be highly fatal. And only the few that survived will be taxed for huge ransoms after they must have disarmed them.

GloriousGbola:
You have watched too many movies jare.

No be your police for Texas wey fear for their life the other day in a school shooting?
What makes heroism work in the US is that you have a working alert system and you know that someone has called the cavalry. So all you have to do is hold off the Indians till reinforcements arrive, called in by 911. In Nigeria you are often on your own in the city, so how much more are you on your own in the middle of a bush surrounded by murderers who are supported by the locals and the police?

raumdeuter:


And while they are disarming them 20 kidnappers to 60 hostages, the hostages will just be looking like dundee? Three shots the kidnappers will flee, no one wants to die. If one of the kidnapper get dropped the others will flee

If kidnappers believe at least 20 people can be armed, they won't go on such journey in the first place, they always look for soft targets and most of Nigeria is a soft target except for barracks which is why they hardly attack barracks except you are a terrorist ready to die not those hoping to collect ransom

BlueRayDick:


I obviously don’t follow the timeline of how the attacks/kidnappings are carried out.

While u are driving on speed u will just see bullets flying into ur windshield . The kidnappers have an element of surprise . Or are u saying everybody will be driving with one hand and the other hand on their own gun also spraying bullets into the air ?

Even if u carry a gun with u, it is difficult for u to escape such attacks especially when the kidnappers are laying in ambush waiting for u.

The solution is not people carrying guns but for our security as a nation to be beefed up. There are so many under-policed space in the country .

By the way, I think the guy said the kidnappers were like 35 in number . Almost even their victims’ number sef

BlueRayDick:


I obviously don’t follow the timeline of how the attacks/kidnappings are carried out.

While u are driving on speed u will just see bullets flying into ur windshield . The kidnappers have an element of surprise . Or are u saying everybody will be driving with one hand and the other hand on their own gun also spraying bullets into the air ?

Even if u carry a gun with u, it is difficult for u to escape such attacks especially when the kidnappers are laying in ambush waiting for u.

The solution is not people carrying guns but for our security as a nation to be beefed up. There are so many under-policed space in the country .

By the way, I think the guy said the kidnappers were like 35 in number . Almost even their victims’ number sef

Spy360:

He told the president what he wanted to hear and also what he needed to hear without raising any dust and even getting an applause. Brilliant speech from the heart.

GloriousGbola:


the real problem is the police are not ready to do police work
there is n way they are not getting support from communities or other cattle rearers
but knowing our police, they collect thier cut and that is that

raumdeuter:


If the kidnappers are trying to kill everybody that's a different matter but they want to take some people alive which pose a different challenge

People will die including the kidnappers and they don't want that, they want the monopoly of terror, they want to kill and not be harmed

raumdeuter:


This is another reason to have a gun seankafor

izzou:
Back in the days, Coaches and Luxury buses usually travel with an armed escort to protect them from robbers

Well, it made it worse and they had to stop.

The robbers didn't have the patience to stop the bus and rob. They opened fire immediately they saw one.

The fact that you have no weapon on you gives you a higher chance to survive.

GloriousGbola:


the real problem is the police are not ready to do police work
there is n way they are not getting support from communities or other cattle rearers
but knowing our police, they collect thier cut and that is that

raumdeuter:


Real police work is dirty and many of us are not ready for it. Some of the dirty police work involves harassment of some people who might be innocent and invasion of privacy

Like with Sars

Even in America there are places where 10 people can get shot and no single person will snitch including the families of those killed

So when police harass everyone to get information it becomes another scandal

While police remain with a big targets on their backs you get more props for killing cops.

It's a tough and almost thankless job. I can't do it. I won't advice anyone to do it and big respect to anyone who chooses to

Roland17:


You dey advocate for mass murder laidis

BlueRayDick:


The kidnappers know they can die the moment they chose the criminal way of life ; same can’t be said for other law abiding citizens who are their victims .
U have not answered my question . How does carrying a gun save u from kidnappers who lay in ambush waiting for and then proceeded to shoot at ur vehicle ?

The guy narrated his own experience which was similar to what the other lady on agidigbo fm narrated in the YouTube video. How u wan shoot back at people u didn’t even know were laying in ambush waiting for u ?

izzou:
Back in the days, Coaches and Luxury buses usually travel with an armed escort to protect them from robbers

Well, it made it worse and they had to stop.

The robbers didn't have the patience to stop the bus and rob. They opened fire immediately they saw one.

The fact that you have no weapon on you gives you a higher chance to survive.

GrammarNazi1:
I watched a video on YouTube of how a woman shot a police officer.

The officer was as civil and professional as possible, giving the woman too much freedom while he was interrogating her.

What did the officer get in return? Gunshots.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zFrF8PCR08?si=tQ1N3UIE7JBCttGC

raumdeuter:


The kidnappers are not ready to die that is why they collect ransom, dead men dont spend ransom. Criminals are different from Terrorists. Terrorists are ready to die, criminals want to enjoy life after their actions

When he shoots at your vehicle, the motive is to stop people not to kill everyone, if he shoots and kill everyone then who will pay him ransom or what does he gain? just to see blood?

Kidnappers do it for a reward and only people alive can pay that reward

BlueRayDick:


They didn’t need everybody alive . They shoot at as many vehicles as possible ; some people will get injured in the shootings while others will die .

It is the few that survive that they collect ransom from. They don’t mind to kill some of the hostages , u read where the guy mentioned how they are willing to kill anybody that slows them down or gives them problem .

Carrying gun will never solve the problem 👎

raumdeuter:


How has that been working for the people in Plateau, Kaduna Benue etc

I remember the trial of Zamani Lekwot, his main crime against the Fulani was that he armed his own people. That act got the Fulani people upset. How dare you have a weapon to defend yourself instead of just laying down and wait your turn

Why do herdmen slow down when they know Ebubeagu or Amotekun are around vs a village they know everyone is depending on prayers

izzou:


I can also make the same arguement for ISWAP.

Villages who surrender to them get to live. The ones that fought back get to count casualties (mostly our uniformed men)

My goal is to live, not to kill 20 robbers and get shot by the 21st one.

I'll rather bet on begging them to let me live, than shooting 2 and still get killed.

raumdeuter:


What is the goal of ISWAP? If its to collect ransom or kill then will anyone be alive? ISWAP wants you to convert and join them in their struggle for whatever and once you do that they spare you

Do you think telling kidnappers that I have confessed kidnaping as my profession, i will join you from today and become a fellow kidnapper "
see if they will let the person live

izzou:


I don't know if they will let me live, but i am willing to take that risk.

My goal is to live, not to kill 500 and still die.

liveLongNprospa:
I actually understand

PDPGuy:

The presidency should sell the 19-yr old aircraft, and in its place, purchase an A330-900 neo Business Jet.
The A330 neo (business jet) is a relatively new jet with a range exceeding 9,000nm, and would be cheaper to maintain.

raumdeuter:


Why do you think those kidnapped people never thought it will be a great idea to beg the kidnappers

Or if they begged, how many of them that begged have been released based on the volume of tears or mercy from the kidnappers

Those killed by kidnappers you think they didn't beg hard enough