MaxInDHouse:


God's organization said it today in the study edition of Watchtower:

On the other hand, a Christian who remains immature can easily be misled by “trickery” and “deceptive schemes” and be taken in by conspiracy theorists and apostates. (Read Ephesians 4:14, 15.) He may be prone to being jealous, creating strife, taking offense, or yielding to temptation.​—1 Cor. 3:3

Such ones aren't growing spiritually but since their parents are influencing them you will think they are growing spiritually speaking.
Remember the Watchtower said they can't make sound decisions on their own it's either their parents or others that's deciding for them Whereas each [b]person will carry his own load! Galatians [/b]6:5

And he wants to carry his own load by disassociating from that religious organization and yet before he leaves you want to paint him as bad as possible by tarnishing his image here. Imagine if he were to be in your congregation. You will go and report to your fellow elders that he market pornographic content on the Internet as means to get him kicked out quickly instead of allowing him to leave on his own by carrying his own load.


Regarding apostasy you don't know what apostasy is

Emusan:


Your blood is getting high, keep it up!

The link is from this same thread not even outside link.



The fact that ONLY Jws is using this DATE 607 should first help you to ask genuine question.

Why ONLY JWS?

When the same Jws agreed with the same historians DATE.



Already answered.

You switched off your brain then!



That is why you don't know what the prophecy all about.

In case you don't know the prophecy of 70years are about 3 different category.

Just take your time to click the link.

Pele...



You're still ignorance of the prophecy in the first first place.

Did archeological evidence support 587BC



First of all, I'm not the archeologists who put the date in 587BC

Secondly, the archeologists did their jobs not because of watchtower in fact, watchtower is of no important to them.

Lastly, I'm in support of Bible and God.

That watchtower decided to twist God's word doesn't mean I'm against God and His word.

You can disregard ARCHEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE while claiming you supported God.



How does that relate to my post?



If not for ignorance, if historians/archeologists should be a liar.

Then the date 537BC you added 70years to to arrive at 607BC will also be lie.

Does that make any sense to you or you're just speaking out of frustration and ignorance.



Yes!



ANd it's your problem!



We have achieved more than what watchtower couldn't achieve for over 100 years of fruitless effort.

Looool

wumiwumi100:

That is non of your business bro.

But this is one of my business shey?

wumiwumi100:
I am currently serving as an Elder in my congregation

Na wah for you o!

wumiwumi100:
What does the Bible say about 607 B.C.E?
Zechariah 7:1 The "fourth year of King Darius" is December 518 B.C.E. The organization agrees with this.

Zechariah 7:3 The people of Bethel were asking the religious leaders if they should continue to weep and fast each year to commemorate the fall of Jerusalem. Since they asked this in December 518 B.C.E. they were asking about the upcoming month in July/August of 517 B.C.E.

Zechariah 7:5 "In the fifth month and in the seventh month" is a clear reference to the destruction of Jerusalem (2 Kings 25:8, 25). They said they had been commemorating Jerusalem's destruction for 70 years. So counting back 70 years from 517 B.C.E. takes you to exactly 587 B.C.E. That's around the year all archeologists put Jerusalem's destruction at. The Bible confirms that year internally.

Summary The organization has ignored this section of Zechariah for decades. An attempt was made to explain it in Aid to Bible Understanding (page 339) where the claim was that they fasted for 70 years, stopped for 20 years, and then asked if they should stop. Unsurprisingly, that paragraph was taken out of the Insight Books (volume 1, page 463) because the reasoning doesn't make any sense. There was even a two-part article about the date of Jerusalem's destruction in the October 1st & November 1st 2011 Watchtower, and Zechariah was completely ignored in that discussion. The governing body knows these verses are a problem, because it completely agrees with the date archeologists give.

Indisputable Facts In 1914 the world populat

ion was around 1.8 billion people. Over 110 years later, the population of China alone is 1.5 billion. When Muslim majority countries are included, at minimum there are well over 3 billion people with no chance of being contacted. So how can 607 B.C.E. and 1914 C.E. have significance if after 110 years of preaching and warning there are more uncontacted people than when the "last days" started?

You're not serious

King James Version
Zechariah 7:5
Speak unto all the people of the land, and to the priests, saying, When ye fasted and mourned in the fifth and seventh month, even those seventy years, did ye at all fast unto me, even to me?

According to Zechariah, is it true that the Jews were mourning for 70 years, (not 50) but seventy years
You want to bring your false reasoning to fool yourself and your friends
They were not telling the king that they had been mourning for 70 years. Jehovah himself said these when you fasted . . . for seventy years, did you really fast to me, even me?” . So Jehovah was referring to an action they did for 70 years. So you counting 70 years from the 4th reign of Darius... The joke is on you and your comprehension of scriptures is low and that is expected of someone who mind is filtered with pornography. How will comprehension of Bible n porn dwell on someone's head?

Zechariah 7:3... saying to the priests of the house of Jehovah of armies and to the prophets: “Should I weep in the fifth month and abstain from food, as I have done for so many years?”. So they met the leaders to ask if they could resume something they had done for so many (70) years. You sef reason am, the year of return, will they be mourning and fasting again that same year as if in captivity? Stop twisting the scriptures!

You quoted Aid to Bible Understanding, apparently to fool your friends. Lemme quote the book and that page and the statement to show how cunning you can be. It says
Various attempts have been made to harmonize this seventy-year period with the Ptolemaic dates used by modern historians, such as counting the seventy years from the initial exile, when King Jehoiachin, Daniel, and others were taken captive (2 Ki. 24:12-17), or by considering the seventy years as counting from the time of the temple’s desolation until the time of its completed reconstruction in the sixth year of Darius I. (Ezra 6:15) Endeavoring to uphold this seventy-year temple destruction theory (supposedly running from 586 to 516 B.C.E.), some scholars cite Zechariah 7:5-7. Jehovah there refers to the fasting done by the Jews in certain months of each year for seventy years. But nothing is said in this text as to this seventy-year period terminating with the completion of the rebuilt temple in 516/515 B.C.E. Rather, [b]it is quite evident that Jehovah is referring to the past practice of the Jews, when they fasted at those specific times during the seventy years prior to their return to Jerusalem and Judah in 537 B.C.E. [/b]This is evident also from the fact that these words were spoken in the “fourth year of Darius the king,” whereas the temple was not completed until Darius’ “sixth year.”—Ezra 6:15; Zech. 7:1.
So the publishers of the book were only mentioning attempts by scholars on the 70 years as foretold and one of which is the one you mentioned about Darius. If you want to adopt that school of thought, it is your own problem. You can only fool your unreasoning friends here especially someone like Fxmasterz


What has 1914 has to do with population of China or any nation? Who cares about population?
Many significant events in the Bible refers to the same time period
The Lord's day, the time of the end, the last days or end time, end of the appointed time of nations, the Great war in heaven leading to the expulsion of Satan by Michael, the beginning of the pangs of distress, the harvest of the weeds amd the wheat, the beginning of the rule of God's invisible kingdom, the gathering of the Anointed, the instalment of Jesus Christ as king, etc. all these are like connecting a jigsaw puzzle and they happened in 1914. Jesus himself gave signs that his disciples will observe during that time and 1914 was the start of a negatively momentous time in world history cos as foretold, the whole world went to war and every other sign Jesus mentioned. When our students, people see how we got to 1914 and the significant event that happened that year and since then, they are amazed.
Charles Russell with the IBS were able to discern that 1914 would be a significant year marking the end or fulfillment of the gentiles or appointed nations but their mistake, which is published is was their ignorance on what will happen to faithful Christiana then. They thought they would be taken to heaven...

Deep Bible understanding is not for feeble, haughty minds or those addicted to watching nonsense. It's for spiritual minded people

MaxInDHouse:

And it's OK for a member of God's organization to share nude pictures on social media shey?

Who shared it on this thread?

A. MAXINDHOUSE

B. AEMMYJAH

C. others


I don't know what MaxInDHouse shared on his thread. Are they euro 2024 live matches

Emusan:


Your blood is getting high, keep it up!

The link is from this same thread not even outside link.



The fact that ONLY Jws is using this DATE 607 should first help you to ask genuine question.

Why ONLY JWS?

When the same Jws agreed with the same historians DATE.



Already answered.

You switched off your brain then!



That is why you don't know what the prophecy all about.

In case you don't know the prophecy of 70years are about 3 different category.

Just take your time to click the link.

Pele...



You're still ignorance of the prophecy in the first first place.

Did archeological evidence support 587BC



First of all, I'm not the archeologists who put the date in 587BC

Secondly, the archeologists did their jobs not because of watchtower in fact, watchtower is of no important to them.

Lastly, I'm in support of Bible and God.

That watchtower decided to twist God's word doesn't mean I'm against God and His word.

You can disregard ARCHEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE while claiming you supported God.



How does that relate to my post?



If not for ignorance, if historians/archeologists should be a liar.

Then the date 537BC you added 70years to to arrive at 607BC will also be lie.

Does that make any sense to you or you're just speaking out of frustration and ignorance.



Yes!



ANd it's your problem!



We have achieved more than what watchtower couldn't achieve for over 100 years of fruitless effort.

You're not serious
Shame on you
You're confused and trying to sit on the fence

Lemme also ask myself,
Why are JWs the only ones with Christian neutrality
Why are they the only ones who will not got to war
Why are they the only ones who make God's name known
Why are they the only ones actively preaching and teaching the Bible everywhere they are found
Why are they the only ones so hated by all, even by religious people that use the Bible


Lemme ask, which other church do you know is so meticulous with dates and events and people in Bible times. Does your pastor know when Jerusalem was destroyed?


The list is many, we're not supposed to be joining league of Christendom

oteneaaron:


HYPOCRISY is smelling.

Look at this man that has insulted many people on Nairaland trying to form holy.

😂😂😂

Just a little poke and your true nature will be revealed.

We know your modus operandi.

😂😂😂

You see how I purposely remove that madness and insanities peddling from my post about him. To make him see that his brains can work without insulting and peddling abuse on Nairaland

MaxInDHouse:

Thanks for commenting!

Lool. Confirmation that he is right

Emusan:


See delusion

He said, he is still an ELDER in one of your hall.

You're asking which CHURCH he is currently attending...

Are you sure you understand what he has been saying since?

Don't mind him, I was even the one who delivered the public talk in my congregation today.

Na my outline be this

Emusan:


The man has not even left Jws but see the hatred towards his person.

He is still one of JWS for now and there's no one line of thought.

Na we wey comot sabi how terrible this hatred can be. .

Aemmyjah:



You're not serious

King James Version
Zechariah 7:5
Speak unto all the people of the land, and to the priests, saying, When ye fasted and mourned in the fifth and seventh month, even those seventy years, did ye at all fast unto me, even to me?

According to Zechariah, is it true that the Jews were mourning for 70 years, (not 50) but seventy years
You want to bring your false reasoning to fool yourself and your friends
They were not telling the king that they had been mourning for 70 years. Jehovah himself said these when you fasted . . . for seventy years, did you really fast to me, even me?” . So Jehovah was referring to an action they did for 70 years. So you counting 70 years from the 4th reign of Darius... The joke is on you and your comprehension of scriptures is low and that is expected of someone who mind is filtered with pornography. How will comprehension of Bible n porn dwell on someone's head?

Zechariah 7:3... saying to the priests of the house of Jehovah of armies and to the prophets: “Should I weep in the fifth month and abstain from food, as I have done for so many years?”. So they met the leaders to ask if they could resume something they had done for so many (70) years. You sef reason am, the year of return, will they be mourning and fasting again that same year as if in captivity? Stop twisting the scriptures!

You quoted Aid to Bible Understanding, apparently to fool your friends. Lemme quote the book and that page and the statement to show how cunning you can be. It says
Various attempts have been made to harmonize this seventy-year period with the Ptolemaic dates used by modern historians, such as counting the seventy years from the initial exile, when King Jehoiachin, Daniel, and others were taken captive (2 Ki. 24:12-17), or by considering the seventy years as counting from the time of the temple’s desolation until the time of its completed reconstruction in the sixth year of Darius I. (Ezra 6:15) Endeavoring to uphold this seventy-year temple destruction theory (supposedly running from 586 to 516 B.C.E.), some scholars cite Zechariah 7:5-7. Jehovah there refers to the fasting done by the Jews in certain months of each year for seventy years. But nothing is said in this text as to this seventy-year period terminating with the completion of the rebuilt temple in 516/515 B.C.E. Rather, [b]it is quite evident that Jehovah is referring to the past practice of the Jews, when they fasted at those specific times during the seventy years prior to their return to Jerusalem and Judah in 537 B.C.E. [/b]This is evident also from the fact that these words were spoken in the “fourth year of Darius the king,” whereas the temple was not completed until Darius’ “sixth year.”—Ezra 6:15; Zech. 7:1.
So the publishers of the book were only mentioning attempts by scholars on the 70 years as foretold and one of which is the one you mentioned about Darius. If you want to adopt that school of thought, it is your own problem. You can only fool your unreasoning friends here especially someone like Fxmasterz


What has 1914 has to do with population of China or any nation? Who cares about population?
Many significant events in the Bible refers to the same time period
The Lord's day, the time of the end, the last days or end time, end of the appointed time of nations, the Great war in heaven leading to the expulsion of Satan by Michael, the beginning of the pangs of distress, the harvest of the weeds amd the wheat, the beginning of the rule of God's invisible kingdom, the gathering of the Anointed, the instalment of Jesus Christ as king, etc. all these are like connecting a jigsaw puzzle and they happened in 1914. Jesus himself gave signs that his disciples will observe during that time and 1914 was the start of a negatively momentous time in world history cos as foretold, the whole world went to war and every other sign Jesus mentioned. When our students, people see how we got to 1914 and the significant event that happened that year and since then, they are amazed.
Charles Russell with the IBS were able to discern that 1914 would be a significant year marking the end or fulfillment of the gentiles or appointed nations but their mistake, which is published is was their ignorance on what will happen to faithful Christiana then. They thought they would be taken to heaven...

Deep Bible understanding is not for feeble, haughty minds or those addicted to watching nonsense. It's for spiritual minded people

I asked him which church he's eyeing now after leaving God's organization he flared up saying i should call it "JW religion" ok i asked him which church he is eyeing after leaving JW RELIGION.
He said it's none of my business but the same person was telling me about his appointment as an elder in JW RELIGION.

Abeg if the new religion of his choice is none of my business what made his former religion and office my business?

Aemmyjah:
You're not serious
Shame on you
You're confused and trying to sit on the fence

Lemme also ask myself,
Why

The fact are:

1. Bible never supported 607BC

2. Historians and Archeologists all agreed that 587BC is the date Jerusalem was destroyed.

3. 70 years is accurate.

4. Watchtower lied for personal gain by disagreeing with archeologists.

oteneaaron:


Is it OK for the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses to make money from the sale of weapons, tobacco cigarettes and the porn industry?

Is it OK for the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses to use the two witness rule to protect pedophiles who rape children in the organization?

Is OK for the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses to accept free money from the Norwegian Gambling Authority?

Is OK for the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses to be registered members of the United Nations for 10 years even when the United Nations is the scarlet colored wild beast?

If you agree that it is OK for the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses to do these things without any repercussion, then you have no right to question wumiwumi100.

What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

The nude picture wey you Oteneaaron see this evening on this thread na celestial church of christ member share am?

Wetin be your answer?

The guy no sabi reason. It is not OK for wunmi to share but OK for MaxInDHouse to share


What a load of hypocrisy.

Emusan:


You don't know him,

To him the elder here won't know his works of the past, maybe that can still convince the elder not to leave watchtower

Looool! Painting others bad to look good na im mode of operation

Emusan:


The fact are:

1. Bible never supported 607BC

2. Historians and Archeologists all agreed that 587BC is the date Jerusalem was destroyed.

3. 70 years is accurate.

4. Watchtower lied for personal gain by disagreeing with archeologists.

1. Has Bible every mentioned any specific year? What are the three ways to determine timing of events in the Bible?
2. Historians and archaeologists do not agree and confirm many things in the Bible. Do you equally side them on these too?
3. From when to when? Explain and educate me sir
4. Personal gain from who?

oteneaaron:


Thanks for reading!

Abi

wumiwumi100:


That is the Watchtower doctrine for you: anyone who disagrees with the Governing Body must be shunned and hated.

For those who doubt me, here is a screenshot of my JW account. The information shown is only accessible by the Elders.

I can relate ooooo.

When I left I didn't go back up till this very day to see if they had block it or not . The secretary one of the key administrators regarding it anyway


MaxInDHouse cannot deny it

Emusan:


You don't know the person behind this moniker.

Do you know that the moniker he deactivated @maximus69 the only thread created on that account was a ponzi scheme.

We have dragged this before and I'm still very sure that, was the reason he deactivated that account.

You think I call him hypocrite for fun!

The question is,

If he hasn't been on Nairaland sexuality section to understand what is going on, how come he pick something from it?

The hypocrisy hit ceiling fan when he said it is not OK for a member of Jehovah's Witnesses to post nude content on social platforms and he was doing the very same thing that is not OK just to tarnish the image of wumiwumi100

When I said madness and insanities peddling dey his brains. I know why I said so

oteneaaron:


Evidence choke.

Maxindhouse can you show us a screenshot of your own JW account to prove that you're truly an Elder as well?

This should be interesting.

😁😁😁

Na so e suppose be ooo. We don't want empty boasting and bragging of being an elder without evidence

achorladey:


The nude picture wey you Oteneaaron see this evening on this thread na celestial church of christ member share am?

Wetin be your answer?

The guy no sabi reason. It is not OK for wunmi to share but OK for MaxInDHouse to share


What a load of hypocrisy.

Na Jehovah's Witness member share am oo.

Aemmyjah:
1. Has Bible every mentioned any specific year?

No!

You see I answered your question!

Now, where did watchtower got the date 537BC from?

What are the three ways to determine timing of events in the Bible?

Bible never talk about that.

Archeological evidence it's not a joke.

Watchtower also rely on that.

2. Historians and archaeologists do not agree and confirm many things in the Bible.

So why do watchtower still rely on historians and archeologists for many things?

Do you equally side them on these too?

Not ALL HISTORIANS AND ARCHEOLOGISTS.

I've been asking you to provide JUST ONE who supported your 607BC

3. From when to when? Explain and educate me sir

You don't need education for now.

The evidence on this thread is enough.

4. Personal gain from who?

To keep deceiving people like you.

Why would ALL HISTORIANS AGAINST 607BC?

MaxInDHouse:

He's now your brother in atheism nah so enjoy his company i'm not your brother so why should i share confidential things with someone who is neither an elder nor even a brother but an apostate!

Carry your own come

Jehovah's Witnesses have atheist and apostates in their midst.

wumiwumi100:


You will be surprised by the number of Bethelites who are PIMO (Physically In, Mentally Out), including some Branch Committee members. They are the ones who always leak information about the different things going on underground.

Thanks ooo. We always tell MaxInDHouse that those on the outside have far reaching information than those on the inside. They think sey na joke

MaxInDHouse:


Assurance!

Pikin no dey dey too wicked make we come send am to the mouth of lion

We cannot make enemies out of people because the lies and manipulations of MaxInDHouse wants us to do so.

wumiwumi100:


I am not an atheist. I believe in God; I just don't agree with the Governing Body anymore. Don't talk as if anyone who wants to disassociate from Jehovah's Witnesses is an atheist.

Be prepared oooo. From today he will call you all sort of names. Except you come and beg him that you have decided to remain and beg their mini gods manning each congregation that you are remorseful about what you did.

MaxInDHouse:


So which church are you now attending or you are become an atheist after leaving God's organization?

wumiwumi100 you see am.

MaxInDHouse lacks integrity. He wants to start lying on your head that you are now attending churches when he saw your post repeatedly saying you are still a Jehovah's Witness. He is now ready to keep denigrating and tarnish your image here just to save his head and face from the exposure about 1914


Aemmyjah said leave him alone. Your itchy fingers cannot stop responding to wumiwumi100

oteneaaron:


Interesting.

Now that you have admitted that you have access to "confidential things", don't come and claim tomorrow that you don't have a Clergy Class.

Just like in screct societies where the higher your degree, the more "confidential things" you have access to.

He is an Elder and he has shown us proof.

Show us your evidence or else stop claiming to be an Elder.

Sweet

Some said letter A is letter A with evidence.

MaxInDHouse says he is letter A carry evidence come. No way.


Clergy class in their midst na foregone conclusion.

MaxInDHouse:

So which church have you figured out as a replacement for God's organization?

You have seen a sign already but you may not grasp it.

Your first thread on Nairaland religion section remains on the first page as your fellow apostates can't continue chatting with one another in the absence of Jehovah's Witnesses.

So it goes with the rich man begging Lazarus for a sip from his finger tips but now you're here on my own thread to chat with the same people who supposed to join you on your thread.

That's the assurance that you will surely have them around you when you need them as JWs are lying to themselves but these ones are telling themselves undiluted truth!

Itchy fingers still responding. He is one of your members. He remains an elder in your midst. When you have position in any church you want to forcefully put him, notify us

wumiwumi100:


Oga use your brain na, JW religion is not God's Organization, and me leaving the religion does not make me an atheist.

Na im mode of operation. He wants to tarnish your image now. That's what is left for him

MaxInDHouse:


OK you're not an atheist so which church are you eyeing after leaving JW RELIGION?

He is an atheist, he is not an atheist. Lies and manipulations of the liar and manipulator from same brains

wumiwumi100:


That is non of your business bro.

Let him ask until he fix you into one in his lies and manipulations filled brains

Emusan:


See delusion

He said, he is still an ELDER in one of your hall.

You're asking which CHURCH he is currently attending...

Are you sure you understand what he has been saying since?

He understand, they cannot accept that insider can expose them like this so the next step is to tarnish his image and make him look as if he is not part of them.