AntiChristian:
Jesus didn't tell anyone to accept him. He himself worshipped God. We already believe in Jesus while you reject Muhammad who came after him! I am using my head and you should use yours too! My soul is settled on the religion of Abraham for he didn't worship God in trinity but only one God! I Sabi how to pray! Who did Jesus teach that neutral prayer? You just create one theology and you'll expect a sheeple to obey?

Allah acknowledged Christ had followers but this followers were called Muslims! Do definitely you're not among them.



Well, the lie that Allah will "throw Muslims" inside hell again! Same lie you ran away when it was time for you to prove it.

Anyone who obeys Allah and submits to Him is a Muslim. The followers of Jesus were called Muslims in that same Qur'an!

Keep deceiving yourself. Your Allah is laughing at you and waiting to put you all in hell for serving him well. You think he is the divine God. No he isn't. He is a deity, god of the sun, moon and stars which the Bible said the Jews should never worship He is telling you in clear terms that your destiny is hell. And he doesn't have the power to deliver you because Jesus has the keys of hell and death.

Ken4Christ:


And what is revealed to him says you will all enter hell first.

Is that what is written there? This your lies na follow come o!

Tell me, can anyone walking across a wildfire go through it unhurt even if a ladder is placed across it.

What does the long hadith you quoted say? This lies you dey lie you sure say no be hereditary lies since Christians dey inherit sin? You will quote verses and give it your own meaning! Where exactly was it said that all Muslims will enter hell?

Your Allah is mocking you all. Use your brain. Accept Jesus or perish. Your Allah told a little truth in Sura 3:55 when he said those who follow Jesus will be made superior to those who reject him until the day of judgment

This is the height of foolishness! Allah mocks who? Allah is far above such! Show where Jesus says you should accept him or perish? Of course when Jesus comes back his followers who would be Muslims would be superior until the day of resurrection! Jesus will come back to reject Christianity, practice Islam and use the Qur'an!

Of course he never knew the Bible in the first place!

Ken4Christ:


Keep deceiving yourself. Your Allah is laughing at you and waiting to put you all in hell for serving him well. You think he is the divine God. No he isn't. He is a deity, god of the sun, moon and stars which the Bible said the Jews should never worship He is telling you in clear terms that your destiny is hell. And he doesn't have the power to deliver you because Jesus has the keys of hell and death.

Anyways I won't like to go to hell at all like the Biblical Jesus!

Satan is not in hell. Satan is around us. Jesus didn't go for any nonsense key.

I will pass through the bridge with ease and enter paradise with the Prophet (salallahu alayhi wasalam). Jesus too will follow us with his followers!

And you will be led to hell where you and other devils belong!

Ken4Christ:


He assumed it was God revealing it to him but it wasn't God. This is why he was confused and sound frustrated. But there is certainty of salvation in Jesus.

You've moved from the previous lie to another lie! So tell me how do you know God revealed anything to Paul at all and God didn't reveal anything to Muhammad?

Jesus didn't tell anyone there's salvation in him!

AntiChristian:
Jesus didn't tell anyone to accept him. He himself worshipped God. We already believe in Jesus while you reject Muhammad who came after him! I am using my head and you should use yours too! My soul is settled on the religion of Abraham for he didn't worship God in trinity but only one God! I Sabi how to pray! Who did Jesus teach that neutral prayer? You just create one theology and you'll expect a sheeple to obey?

Allah acknowledged Christ had followers but this followers were called Muslims! Do definitely you're not among them.



Well, the lie that Allah will "throw Muslims" inside hell again! Same lie you ran away when it was time for you to prove it.

Anyone who obeys Allah and submits to Him is a Muslim. The followers of Jesus were called Muslims in that same Qur'an!

You are day dreaming. How could the followers of Jesus be called Muslim when Islamic religion started after over 500 years after the resurrection and ascension of Jesus. Even the man who smokes weed can't make such statement. You are all battling hard to give credibility to Islam through lies and unsubstantiated claims.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByIh7TcrZRA?si=LhIMliquIkaE83o2

Ken4Christ:


You are day dreaming. How could the followers of Jesus be called Muslim when Islamic religion started after over 500 years after the resurrection and ascension of Jesus. Even the man who smokes weed can't make such statement. You are all battling hard to give credibility to Islam through lies and unsubstantiated claims.

AntiChristian:
Jesus didn't tell anyone to accept him. He himself worshipped God. We already believe in Jesus while you reject Muhammad who came after him! I am using my head and you should use yours too! My soul is settled on the religion of Abraham for he didn't worship God in trinity but only one God! I Sabi how to pray! Who did Jesus teach that neutral prayer? You just create one theology and you'll expect a sheeple to obey?

Allah acknowledged Christ had followers but this followers were called Muslims! Do definitely you're not among them.



Well, the lie that Allah will "throw Muslims" inside hell again! Same lie you ran away when it was time for you to prove it.

Anyone who obeys Allah and submits to Him is a Muslim. The followers of Jesus were called Muslims in that same Qur'an!

I didn't come here to argue with you. But some day, you would understand, my friend.

honesttalk21:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByIh7TcrZRA?si=LhIMliquIkaE83o2

I thought Mohammed hates the Jews passionately. And the Quran even instructs you to hate them and kill them. So, why are you using testimony of those you hate to back up your claim?

Well, the present day Jews are spiritually blind and therefore prone to errors. So, his testimony doesn't hold water.

Your Mohammed was not God sent. He doesn't know God. It wasn't an angel of God who spoke to him. He was deceived and forced his deception on you all. Well, in a real sense, you are no longer deceived because you know your destination- Hell.

And he won't bring you out. Jesus has the keys of hell and death. Those in hell will only be released for final judgment on the last day and be thrown into bigger fire; Lake of fire- Revelation 20:11-15.

You had better received Jesus as your Lord and Saviour and save yourself from the coming wrath.

Ken4Christ:


I thought Mohammed hates the Jews passionately. And the Quran even instructs you to hate them and kill them. So, why are you using testimony of those you hate to back up your claim?

Well, the present day Jews are spiritually blind and therefore prone to errors. So, his testimony doesn't hold water.

Your Mohammed was not God sent. He doesn't know God. It wasn't an angel of God who spoke to him. He was deceived and forced his deception on you all. Well, in a real sense, you are no longer deceived because you know your destination- Hell.

And he won't bring you out. Jesus has the keys of hell and death. Those in hell will only be released for final judgment on the last day and be thrown into bigger fire; Lake of fire- Revelation 20:11-15.

You had better received Jesus as your Lord and Saviour and save yourself from the coming wrath.

I must clarify that Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) did not exclusively hate Jews or any other group of people. Islam teaches compassion, mercy, and respect towards all individuals, regardless of their background or beliefs.

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) interacted with people of various faiths, including Jews, Christians, and others, during his lifetime. He emphasized the importance of treating all individuals with kindness, fairness, and respect. There are numerous instances in the Hadith and Seerah (biography of the Prophet) where he showed kindness and compassion towards Jews and others.

It is important to remember that Islam promotes tolerance, understanding, and peaceful coexistence among people of different backgrounds. Hatred and discrimination are not in line with the teachings of Islam.

Muslims are encouraged to uphold justice, kindness, and respect towards all individuals, following the example of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) who was a mercy to all of mankind.

Despite instances of Jewish recognition and acceptance of Muhammad’s prophethood, there were also instances of opposition and polemics between Muslims and Jews. The reasons for this contention are complex and multifaceted, involving religious differences, political power struggles, and cultural tensions. It is essential to note that these historical accounts should be approached with caution due to their origins.

According to Islamic sources, some Jews in Arabia anticipated the arrival of a prophet like Muhammad. Ibn al-Hayyabān, a righteous Jew from Syria, was one such individual who prayed for rain during intense droughts, believing that the arrival of the prophet was imminent. He did not live to see this prophet. Another Jew pointed towards Mecca and Yemen, predicting that a prophet would emerge from that direction (Ibn Ishaq). In some stories, a Jew knew the night that Muhammad would be born and even described the sign of prophecy on his back (Ibn Qaṭāda).

When Muhammad moved from Mecca to Medina, the first person to announce his arrival was a Jew (Ibn Ishaq). Some pious Jews in Medina recognized Muhammad’s true status as a prophet and joined his community. Mukhayriq, a learned Jew from Banū ‘Abdul-Ashhal clan, went out to fight for Muhammad at the Battle of Uḥud despite it being on the Sabbath when fighting is forbidden according to Jewish law. Abdullah ibn Salām, another wise rabbi from Banū Qurayẓa tribe, not only recognized Muhammad’s prophethood but also informed him that other Jews acknowledged it but refused to admit it due to their disbelief.

You should be cautious in your claims on behalf of the Almighty God. Don't state things you have no known about unless you claim to be God or were somehow specifically told that by God.

You wrongly stick to a verse of the writtec Quran without adequate understanding of the language and the passage in which it occurs.

I tried explaining some of it here on this thread of yours

Explore2xmore:
Posted on the wrong thread in error previously

It is well established that these discussion are ignorant sinful jests. Not withstanding let the verses be appropriately understood.

In Surah Maryam from verses 68-72, Allah mentions the fate of different groups of people on the Day of Judgment. Here is the explanation of these verses:

But by your Lord, We will surely gather them and the devils; then We will bring them to be present around Hell upon their knees

Then We will surely extract from every sect/group those of them who were worst against the Most Merciful in insolence.

Then, surely it is We who are most knowing of those most worthy of burning therein.

And there is none of you except he will come to it. This is upon your Lord an inevitability decreed. (Everybody will pass through judgement; some swiftly and others not swiftly hence the hadith about walking over the bridge over hell)

Then We will save those who feared Allah and leave the wrongdoers within it, on their knees.


This is absolutely perfect justice unlike the fairy tale most people like to believe. The justice and fairness of Allah at the end is absolute hence the various degrees of enjoyment in paradise and various degrees of punishment in hell.

Do you think all that are righteous are righteous to the same degree? Though all of paradise is incomparable pleasure as is the reverse in hell

In Surah Maryam, verse 68, the translated meaning is:

"So by your Lord, We will surely gather them and the devils; then We will bring them to be present around Hell upon their knees." (Qur'an 19:68)

In this verse, it does not explicitly state that all of them are in Hell at that time. The imagery of humans and devils being gathered around Hell on their knees signifies the seriousness and gravity of the Day of Judgment. It symbolizes the accountability and submission of all beings before Allah, as they face the consequences of their deeds.

The presentation of humans and devils around Hell on their knees serves as a scene of judgment and accountability, where all beings will be brought before Allah to answer for their actions. It emphasizes the ultimate justice of Allah and the inevitability of facing the consequences of one's deeds.

Therefore, it is not indicating that they are all in Hell at that specific moment, but rather highlighting the scene of judgment and accountability on the Day of Judgment. The ultimate fate of individuals will be determined based on their faith, deeds, and the mercy of Allah.

honesttalk21:


I must clarify that Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) did not exclusively hate Jews or any other group of people. Islam teaches compassion, mercy, and respect towards all individuals, regardless of their background or beliefs.

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) interacted with people of various faiths, including Jews, Christians, and others, during his lifetime. He emphasized the importance of treating all individuals with kindness, fairness, and respect. There are numerous instances in the Hadith and Seerah (biography of the Prophet) where he showed kindness and compassion towards Jews and others.

It is important to remember that Islam promotes tolerance, understanding, and peaceful coexistence among people of different backgrounds. Hatred and discrimination are not in line with the teachings of Islam.

Muslims are encouraged to uphold justice, kindness, and respect towards all individuals, following the example of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) who was a mercy to all of mankind.

You are either ignorant or your religion or just chose to lie. How did Islam spread in its early years? Through sword. Go and read history. Don't tell me that you don't know about Utman Dan Fodio Jihad in West Africa. Or do you want me to quote your Quran verses for you supporting my claims?

Ken4Christ:


You are either ignorant or your religion or just chose to lie. How did Islam spread in its early years? Through sword. Go and read history. Don't tell me that you don't know about Utman Dan Fodio Jihad in West Africa. Or do you want me to quote your Quran verses for you supporting my claims?

Islam did not spread through the sword in its early years. The spread of Islam was primarily through peaceful means, preaching, and the exemplary character of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and his companions.

During the early years of Islam, the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and his followers faced persecution and hardships in Mecca. They endured oppression and violence for their beliefs. However, they remained patient, steadfast, and continued to convey the message of Islam with patience and wisdom.

When the Muslims migrated to Medina, they established a peaceful and just society based on the principles of Islam. The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) signed treaties with various tribes and communities, promoting peaceful coexistence and mutual respect.

While there were defensive battles fought in the early years of Islam against those who sought to harm the Muslim community, it is important to note that these battles were not for the purpose of spreading Islam through force. The primary goal was to defend the Muslim community and ensure the freedom to practice their faith.

The spread of Islam was largely due to the sincerity, dedication, and moral values of the early Muslims, as well as the appeal of the message of monotheism and social justice brought by Islam. People were attracted to the teachings of Islam and embraced the faith willingly.

It is essential to understand the historical context and the principles of Islam in order to accurately assess how the religion spread in its early years. Islam emphasizes peace, tolerance, and respect for others, and the early Muslims sought to embody these values in their interactions with others.

honesttalk21:


Islam did not spread through the sword in its early years. The spread of Islam was primarily through peaceful means, preaching, and the exemplary character of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and his companions.

During the early years of Islam, the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and his followers faced persecution and hardships in Mecca. They endured oppression and violence for their beliefs. However, they remained patient, steadfast, and continued to convey the message of Islam with patience and wisdom.

When the Muslims migrated to Medina, they established a peaceful and just society based on the principles of Islam. The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) signed treaties with various tribes and communities, promoting peaceful coexistence and mutual respect.

While there were defensive battles fought in the early years of Islam against those who sought to harm the Muslim community, it is important to note that these battles were not for the purpose of spreading Islam through force. The primary goal was to defend the Muslim community and ensure the freedom to practice their faith.

The spread of Islam was largely due to the sincerity, dedication, and moral values of the early Muslims, as well as the appeal of the message of monotheism and social justice brought by Islam. People were attracted to the teachings of Islam and embraced the faith willingly.

It is essential to understand the historical context and the principles of Islam in order to accurately assess how the religion spread in its early years. Islam emphasizes peace, tolerance, and respect for others, and the early Muslims sought to embody these values in their interactions with others.

You lie more than the devil himself. Which message does Islam have? Message of frustration where Mohammed is unsure of his destiny and that of the followers?

Message that says you will all enter into hell first?

Message that turns you into a slave of Allah? In Christianity, we are sons of God.

Message that makes women second class citizens?

Message that puts fear in adherents threatening to kill them if they convert?

Which Message? You don't have a message. No hope in Islam. No salvation in Islam.

Can your Allah heal the sick and raise the dead?

Can he save a sinner from his sinful ways?

How many Muslims can testify that they have a changed life? Are they not the terrorist causing insecurity in Nigeria. Please, say something else.

No wonder the government removed history from schools so you won't know where you are coming from.

Ken4Christ:


You lie more than the devil himself. Which message does Islam have? Message of frustration where Mohammed is unsure of his destiny and that of the followers?

Message that says you will all enter into hell first?

Message that turns you into a slave of Allah? In Christianity, we are sons of God.

Message that makes women second class citizens?

Message that puts fear in adherents threatening to kill them if they convert?

Which Message? You don't have a message. No hope in Islam. No salvation in Islam.

Can your Allah heal the sick and raise the dead?

Can he save a sinner from his sinful ways?

How many Muslims can testify that they have a changed life? Are they not the terrorist causing insecurity in Nigeria. Please, say something else.

No wonder the government removed history from schools so you won't know where you are coming from.

Your response shows it is impossible for you to see otherwise. In a listed manner you present templates of argument which you wrongly convince yourself to use as justification.

To your first paragraph can you tell me how much rain will fall tomorrow and how many drops will land on you directly and your vehicle? What time exactly it will rain and where you will be?

Can you explicitly show where it is stated I will enter into hell first. Kindly provide the arabic words and actual meaning then review the context?

If you are a slave is it not more honoring to be a slave to Allah the almighty and sole God rather than man or undesirable variations in daily leaving? Do you know the actual meaning of the concept of sons of God? Is it literal?
Even if it's symbolic, do you belittle your God so much that you make him have children like mortal man?

Is it like Greek mythology where Zeus bore Hercules and other children?

Does son of God not refer to one in conformity to the guidance of God who enjoys God's care as a result of humble submission ?

How are women made second class? Do not confuse culture or tradition for honourable position of women in islam.

In Islam, women hold an honorable and respected position. The teachings of Islam emphasize the dignity, rights, and equality of women in all aspects of life. Here are some key points highlighting the honorable position of women in Islam:

In the eyes of Allah, men and women are equal in terms of their spiritual duties and responsibilities. Both men and women have the same potential to earn rewards, seek knowledge, and draw closer to Allah through worship and good deeds.

Islam grants women various social rights, including the right to education, work, own property, and participate in public life. Women are encouraged to seek knowledge, engage in business, and contribute to society while fulfilling their roles as mothers and caretakers.

Islam emphasizes the protection and respect of women. Men are instructed to treat women with kindness, compassion, and fairness. The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said, "The best of you are those who are best to their wives."

Threat to kill converts? How? You obviously write what you don't have any knowledge about?

Is hope not seen in verses of the Quran that state that after difficulties comes ease, the eternal reward of paradise for the righteous and the bountiful forgiving mercies of Allah?

Are you certain that only acclaimed Muslims terrorise Nigeria? Were the famous Shina Rambo and Anini Muslims? Are the members of the Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta (MEND) who kidnap and vandalise national and private infrastructure Muslims?

Allah surely heals the seek and raises the dead, who other than Allah can do these? Muslims don't attach to miracles like others do as these things can easily be manipulated by tricksters and the Devil himself?

It's grossly disappointing that you seem to attach the loss of history from Nigeria's education system to Islam. Can you not research to understand obvious and hidden reasons for this?

Sadly, your lumping many issues together at once shows you lack resources to exhaustively discuss and finish one issue at time and look to bamboozle with many questions.

Kindly do better or be quiet please.

honesttalk21:


Your response shows it is impossible for you to see otherwise. In a listed manner you present templates of argument which you wrongly convince yourself to use as justification.

To your first paragraph can you tell me how much rain will fall tomorrow and how many drops will land on you directly and your vehicle? What time exactly it will rain and where you will be?

Can you explicitly show where it is stated I will enter into hell first. Kindly provide the arabic words and actual meaning then review the context?

If you are a slave is it not more honoring to be a slave to Allah the almighty and sole God rather than man or undesirable variations in daily leaving? Do you know the actual meaning of the concept of sons of God? Is it literal?
Even if it's symbolic, do you belittle your God so much that you make him have children like mortal man?

Is it like Greek mythology where Zeus bore Hercules and other children?

Does son of God not refer to one in conformity to the guidance of God who enjoys God's care as a result of humble submission ?

How are women made second class? Do not confuse culture or tradition for honourable position of women in islam.

In Islam, women hold an honorable and respected position. The teachings of Islam emphasize the dignity, rights, and equality of women in all aspects of life. Here are some key points highlighting the honorable position of women in Islam:

In the eyes of Allah, men and women are equal in terms of their spiritual duties and responsibilities. Both men and women have the same potential to earn rewards, seek knowledge, and draw closer to Allah through worship and good deeds.

Islam grants women various social rights, including the right to education, work, own property, and participate in public life. Women are encouraged to seek knowledge, engage in business, and contribute to society while fulfilling their roles as mothers and caretakers.

Islam emphasizes the protection and respect of women. Men are instructed to treat women with kindness, compassion, and fairness. The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said, "The best of you are those who are best to their wives."

Threat to kill converts? How? You obviously write what you don't have any knowledge about?

Is hope not seen in verses of the Quran that state that after difficulties comes ease, the eternal reward of paradise for the righteous and the bountiful forgiving mercies of Allah?

Are you certain that only acclaimed Muslims terrorise Nigeria? Were the famous Shina Rambo and Anini Muslims? Are the members of the Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta (MEND) who kidnap and vandalise national and private infrastructure Muslims?

Allah surely heals the seek and raises the dead, who other than Allah can do these? Muslims don't attach to miracles like others do as these things can easily be manipulated by tricksters and the Devil himself?

It's grossly disappointing that you seem to attach the loss of history from Nigeria's education system to Islam. Can you not research to understand obvious and hidden reasons for this?

Sadly, your lumping many issues together at once shows you lack resources to exhaustively discuss and finish one issue at time and look to bamboozle with many questions.

Kindly do better or be quiet please.

MEND are unbelievers. They are not Christians. Not everyone who was born into a Christian home or even attend church is a Christian.

The real term Christians refers to those who have received the free gift of salvation by believing and confessing Jesus as Lord and Saviour. We call Such people born again. A born again Christian cannot be a terrorist.

But a true Muslim is a terrorist. Because they are doing the instructions contained in the Quran.

Your Allah says that you should hate your enemies and kill them. But Jesus said that we should love our enemies. And Apostle Paul said we should even feed them.

Ken4Christ:


MEND are unbelievers. They are not Christians. Not everyone who was born into a Christian home or even attend church is a Christian.

The real term Christians refers to those who have received the free gift of salvation by believing and confessing Jesus as Lord and Saviour. We call Such people born again. A born again Christian cannot be a terrorist.

But a true Muslim is a terrorist. Because they are doing the instructions contained in the Quran.

Your Allah says that you should hate your enemies and kill them. But Jesus said that we should love our enemies. And Apostle Paul said we should even feed them.

Interesting you have just one point to respond to now. Do you really know members of MEND and choose to deny them as Christians now?

Is it false that MEND are affiliated to
Niger Delta People’s Volunteer Force (ND Pavp) and the Niger Delta Peoples Salvation Front (NDPSF)? Are all these people too not Christian?

You say Charles and Henry Okah are not Christian?

Can you clearly and unambiguously provide evidence to support the terrorist instruction to Muslims you claim is in the Quran?

I have clarified your wrongly understanding of what is said in Quran 19:71-72 and shown that Muslims are not going to first enter hell.

Sonny Bowie Okah aka Dr Bowie was an elder in Kaduna Praise Chapel for All Nations, a popular Pentecostal church.

Tompolo is an ordained evangelist of the Cherubim and Seraphim Church. I expect you will say these are not Christians.

honesttalk21:


Interesting you have just one point to respond to now. Do you really know members of MEND and choose to deny them as Christians now?

Is it false that MEND are affiliated to
Niger Delta People’s Volunteer Force (ND Pavp) and the Niger Delta Peoples Salvation Front (NDPSF)? Are all these people too not Christian?

You say Charles and Henry Okah are not Christian?

Can you clearly and unambiguously provide evidence to support the terrorist instruction to Muslims you claim is in the Quran?

I have clarified your wrongly understanding of what is said in Quran 19:71-72 and shown that Muslims are not going to first enter hell.

Mohammed is in hell.. Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 12, Number 770

I will respond to you other points later.

Ken4Christ:


Mohammed is in hell.. Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 12, Number 770

I will respond to you other points later.

You are scared to quote the translated text of the Hadith? Do quote it.

If it's too lengthy restrict the quote to 2 sentences before and answer the one which upholds your claim

honesttalk21:


You are scared to quote the translated text of the Hadith? Do quote it.

If it's too lengthy restrict the quote to 2 sentences before and answer the one which upholds your claim

The quote is in this thread but you pretended not to notice some submissions.

Mohammed said he be the first to place a ladder across hell. Is this not as good as entering hell. The heat of the flame will burn both him and the ladder. And he will become skeleton as the hadith says.

As he attempts to cross, the rest of you will do the same and you can't come out as Allah promised you. He is only deceiving you all.

Ken4Christ:


The quote is in this thread but you pretended not to notice some submissions.


Mohammed said he be the first to place a ladder across hell. Is this not as good as entering hell. The heat of the flame will burn both him and the ladder. And he will become skeleton as the hadith says.



As he attempts to cross, the rest of you will do the same and you can't come out as Allah promised you. He is only deceiving you all.

It cannot be that difficult for you to quote it here ?

Are you certain that Muhammad peace be upon him will place this ladder? This is why I ask you to write out the hadith or the sentences.

Take for instance though are you in the river Niger when you travel on the Niger bridge?

Fantastic you even add
The heat of the flame will burn both him and the ladder. And he will become skeleton as the hadith says.

Kindly screen shot and label this at least

honesttalk21:


It cannot be that difficult for you to quote it here ?

Are you certain that Muhammad peace be upon him will place this ladder? This is why I ask you to write out the hadith or the sentences.

Take for instance though are you in the river Niger when you travel on the Niger bridge?

Fantastic you even add
The heat of the flame will burn both him and the ladder. And he will become skeleton as the hadith says.

Kindly screen shot and label this at least

Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 12, Hadith Number 770
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Narated By Abu Huraira : The people said, “O Allah’s Apostle! Shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?” He replied, “Do you have any doubt in seeing the full moon on a clear (not cloudy) night?” They replied, “No, O Allah’s Apostle!” He said, “Do you have any doubt in seeing the sun when there are no clouds?” They replied in the negative. He said, “You will see Allah (your Lord) in the same way. On the Day of Resurrection, people will be gathered and He will order the people to follow what they used to worship. So some of them will follow the sun, some will follow the moon, and some will follow other deities; and only this nation (Muslims) will be left with its hypocrites. Allah will come to them and say, ‘I am Your Lord.’ They will say, ‘We shall stay in this place till our Lord comes to us and when our Lord will come, we will recognize Him.

Then Allah will come to them again and say, ‘I am your Lord.’ They will say, ‘You are our Lord.’ Allah will call them, and As-Sirat (A BRIDGE) WILL BE LAID ACROSS HELL AND I (MUHAMMAD) SHALL BE THE FIRST AMONGST THE APOSTLES TO CROSS IT WITH MY FOLLOWERS. Nobody except the Apostles will then be able to speak and they will be saying then, ‘O Allah! Save us. O Allah Save us.’

There will be hooks like the thorns of Sa’dan in Hell. Have you seen the thorns of Sa’dan?” The people said, “Yes.” He said, “These hooks will be like the thorns of Sa’dan but nobody except Allah knows their greatness in size and these will entangle the people according to their deeds; some of them will fall and stay in Hell forever; others will receive punishment (torn into small pieces) and will get out of Hell, till when Allah intends mercy on whomever He likes amongst the people of Hell, HE WILL ORDER THE ANGELS TO TAKE OUT OF HELL THOSE WHO WORSHIPPED NONE BUT HIM ALONE. The angels will take them out by recognizing them from the traces of prostrations, for Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away those traces. SO THEY WILL COME OUT OF THE FIRE, it will eat away from the whole of the human body except the marks of the prostrations. At that time, THEY WILL COME OUT OF THE FIRE AS MERE SKELETONS. The Water of Life will be poured on them, and as a result, they will grow like the seeds growing on the bank of flowing water. Then, when Allah had finished from the Judgments amongst his creations, one man would be left between Hell and Paradise, and he would be the last man from the people of Hell to enter paradise. He will be facing Hell and will say, ‘O Allah! Turn my face from the fire as its wind has dried me, and its steam has burnt me.’ Allah will ask him, “Will you ask for anything more in case this favour is granted to you?’ He will say, “No by Your (Honour) Power!” And he will give to his Lord (Allah) what he will of the pledges and the covenants. Allah will then turn his face from the fire. When he will face Paradise and will see its charm, he will remain quiet as long as Allah will. He then will say, ‘O my Lord! Let me go to the gate of Paradise.’ Allah will ask him, ‘Didn’t you give pledges and make covenants (to the effect) that you would not ask for anything more than what you requested at first?’ He will say, ‘O my Lord! Do not make me the most wretched amongst Your creatures.’ Allah will say, ‘If this request is granted, will you then ask for anything else?’ He will say, ‘No! By Your Power! I shall not ask for anything else.’ Then he will give to his Lord what He will of the pledges and the covenants. Allah will then let him go to the gate of Paradise. On reaching then and seeing its life, charm, and pleasure, he will remain quiet as long as Allah wills and then will say, ‘O my Lord ! Let me enter Paradise.’ Allah will say, May Allah be merciful unto you, O son of Adam! How treacherous you are! Haven’t you made covenants and given pledges that you will not ask for anything more than what you have been given?’ He will say, ‘O my Lord! Do not make me the most wretched amongst Your creatures.’ So Allah will laugh and allow him to enter Paradise and will ask him to request as much as he likes. He will do so till all his desires have been fulfilled. Then Allah will say, ‘Request more of such and such things.’ Allah will remind him and when all his desires and wishes; have been fulfilled, Allah will say “All this is granted to you and a similar amount besides.” Abu Said Al-Khudri, said to Abu Huraira, ‘Allah’s Apostle said, “Allah said, ‘That is for you and ten times more like it.’ “Abu Huraira said, “I do not remember from Allah’s Apostle except (his saying), ‘All this is granted to you and a similar amount besides.” Abu Sahd said, “I heard him saying, ‘That is for you and ten times more the like of it.”

Analysis of the Hadith revelations

1. If crossing the hell with a ladder does not hurt, why would they cry Allah save us?

2. Allah intends mercy on whomever He likes amongst the people of Hell, HE WILL ORDER THE ANGELS TO TAKE OUT OF HELL THOSE WHO WORSHIPPED NONE BUT HIM ALONE.

This sentence proves that worshipers of Allah will be in hell. Notice, it said that they worshipped Allah alone. But Allah put them in hell. So, it means all worshipers of Allah will go to hell first.

3. The angels will take them out by recognizing them from the traces of prostrations, for Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away those traces. SO THEY WILL COME OUT OF THE FIRE, it will eat away from the whole of the human body except the marks of the prostrations. At that time, THEY WILL COME OUT OF THE FIRE AS MERE SKELETONS.

This sentence confirms its referring to worshipers of Allah. They had traces or marks of their prostrations.

So this is the destination of all Allah worshipers.

I love Allah for this. He deceives you to worship him and also let you know that you will go to hell. But the truth is that he can't get you out of hell because Jesus has the keys of hell and death - Revelation 1:17-18.

The choice is yours. Serve your Allah that promised you hell or receive Jesus who delivered you from hell and promised you heaven- John 14:1-3.

AntiChristian:
This has been debunked over ten years now!

Just one of the offshoots of Sam Shamoun's blunders about Islam.

https://www.nairaland.com/1509559/all-muslims-enter-hell

Christians love telling lies sha!

Mr AntiChristian,
Did you even read the rebuttal your referenced?

Refutation

The claimer does not understand the meaning of 19:71.

A- The words of 19:71 are as follows:

"Every single one of you must pass by it and see it; this is an irrevocable decision of your Lord."

This verse indeed confirms that all humans will pass by Hell and see it, yet we immediately note an important use of words between this verse and other verses that speak of the disbeliever's entry into Hell.

In 19:71 the Arabic word (Waredha) is used, which means (pass by and see). However, in the verses that speak about the disbelievers entry into Hell, we note the word (Dokhool) is used which means (entering), as opposed to passing by:

Mr Liar,
Would the evildoers in verse 72 also pass by hell fire?

Self deluded human beings who will take the words of their prophet over that of their supposed Allah.

Quran 19:71
There is not one of you who will not go down to it (the Fire), that is a fixed Decree of your Lord

I understand that the bridge is down and not up.

Quran 19:72 
Then We will save those who feared Allah and leave the wrongdoers within it, on their knees."

Verse 71 says
1. ALL Muslims will enter Hell fire
2. It is a Fixed inescapable Decree of Allah
Verse 72 says
1. After an undetermined time, Allah will remove you Muslims and leave the bad people hobbling on their knees

Continue to cook up lies for yourself!

Ken4Christ:


Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 12, Hadith Number 770
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SAHIH BUKHARI VOLUME 1, BOOK 12, HADITH NUMBER 770
Narated By Abu Huraira : The people said, “O Allah’s Apostle! Shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?” He replied, “Do you have any doubt in seeing the full moon on a clear (not cloudy) night?” They replied, “No, O Allah’s Apostle!” He said, “Do you have any doubt in seeing the sun when there are no clouds?” They replied in the negative. He said, “You will see Allah (your Lord) in the same way. On the Day of Resurrection, people will be gathered and He will order the people to follow what they used to worship. So some of them will follow the sun, some will follow the moon, and some will follow other deities; and only this nation (Muslims) will be left with its hypocrites. Allah will come to them and say, ‘I am Your Lord.’ They will say, ‘We shall stay in this place till our Lord comes to us and when our Lord will come, we will recognize Him.

Then Allah will come to them again and say, ‘I am your Lord.’ They will say, ‘You are our Lord.’ Allah will call them, and As-Sirat (A BRIDGE) WILL BE LAID ACROSS HELL AND I (MUHAMMAD) SHALL BE THE FIRST AMONGST THE APOSTLES TO CROSS IT WITH MY FOLLOWERS. Nobody except the Apostles will then be able to speak and they will be saying then, ‘O Allah! Save us. O Allah Save us.’

There will be hooks like the thorns of Sa’dan in Hell. Have you seen the thorns of Sa’dan?” The people said, “Yes.” He said, “These hooks will be like the thorns of Sa’dan but nobody except Allah knows their greatness in size and these will entangle the people according to their deeds; some of them will fall and stay in Hell forever; others will receive punishment (torn into small pieces) and will get out of Hell, till when Allah intends mercy on whomever He likes amongst the people of Hell, HE WILL ORDER THE ANGELS TO TAKE OUT OF HELL THOSE WHO WORSHIPPED NONE BUT HIM ALONE. The angels will take them out by recognizing them from the traces of prostrations, for Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away those traces. SO THEY WILL COME OUT OF THE FIRE, it will eat away from the whole of the human body except the marks of the prostrations. At that time, THEY WILL COME OUT OF THE FIRE AS MERE SKELETONS. The Water of Life will be poured on them, and as a result, they will grow like the seeds growing on the bank of flowing water. Then, when Allah had finished from the Judgments amongst his creations, one man would be left between Hell and Paradise, and he would be the last man from the people of Hell to enter paradise. He will be facing Hell and will say, ‘O Allah! Turn my face from the fire as its wind has dried me, and its steam has burnt me.’ Allah will ask him, “Will you ask for anything more in case this favour is granted to you?’ He will say, “No by Your (Honour) Power!” And he will give to his Lord (Allah) what he will of the pledges and the covenants. Allah will then turn his face from the fire. When he will face Paradise and will see its charm, he will remain quiet as long as Allah will. He then will say, ‘O my Lord! Let me go to the gate of Paradise.’ Allah will ask him, ‘Didn’t you give pledges and make covenants (to the effect) that you would not ask for anything more than what you requested at first?’ He will say, ‘O my Lord! Do not make me the most wretched amongst Your creatures.’ Allah will say, ‘If this request is granted, will you then ask for anything else?’ He will say, ‘No! By Your Power! I shall not ask for anything else.’ Then he will give to his Lord what He will of the pledges and the covenants. Allah will then let him go to the gate of Paradise. On reaching then and seeing its life, charm, and pleasure, he will remain quiet as long as Allah wills and then will say, ‘O my Lord ! Let me enter Paradise.’ Allah will say, May Allah be merciful unto you, O son of Adam! How treacherous you are! Haven’t you made covenants and given pledges that you will not ask for anything more than what you have been given?’ He will say, ‘O my Lord! Do not make me the most wretched amongst Your creatures.’ So Allah will laugh and allow him to enter Paradise and will ask him to request as much as he likes. He will do so till all his desires have been fulfilled. Then Allah will say, ‘Request more of such and such things.’ Allah will remind him and when all his desires and wishes; have been fulfilled, Allah will say “All this is granted to you and a similar amount besides.” Abu Said Al-Khudri, said to Abu Huraira, ‘Allah’s Apostle said, “Allah said, ‘That is for you and ten times more like it.’ “Abu Huraira said, “I do not remember from Allah’s Apostle except (his saying), ‘All this is granted to you and a similar amount besides.” Abu Sahd said, “I heard him saying, ‘That is for you and ten times more the like of it.”

Analysis of the Hadith revelations

1. If crossing the hell with a ladder does not hurt, why would they cry Allah save us?

2. Allah intends mercy on whomever He likes amongst the people of Hell, HE WILL ORDER THE ANGELS TO TAKE OUT OF HELL THOSE WHO WORSHIPPED NONE BUT HIM ALONE.

This sentence proves that worshipers of Allah will be in hell. Notice, it said that they worshipped Allah alone. But Allah put them in hell. So, it means all worshipers of Allah will go to hell first.

3. The angels will take them out by recognizing them from the traces of prostrations, for Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away those traces. SO THEY WILL COME OUT OF THE FIRE, it will eat away from the whole of the human body except the marks of the prostrations. At that time, THEY WILL COME OUT OF THE FIRE AS MERE SKELETONS.

This sentence confirms its referring to worshipers of Allah. They had traces or marks of their prostrations.

So this is the destination of all Allah worshipers.

I love Allah for this. He deceives you to worship him and also let you know that you will go to hell. But the truth is that he can't get you out of hell because Jesus has the keys of hell and death - Revelation 1:17-18.

The choice is yours. Serve your Allah that promised you hell or receive Jesus who delivered you from hell and promised you heaven- John 14:1-3.

You actually say

Ken4Christ:

Mohammed said he be the first to place a ladder across hell Is this not as good as entering hell. The heat of the flame will burn both him and the ladder. And he will become skeleton as the hadith says.

I asked you to show the exact sentence stating Muhammad pbuh is the one who placed or places a ladder and you are unable to show this Why?

Also where in the hadith you quote does he (Muhammad pbuh) burn into skeleton?
You are mixing things up.

1. Knowing what will be the fate of those in the fire what is the error in asking to be saved from the fate of falling into and being in the eternal fire?

2. Question 2 does not say all Muslims will be amongst the people of fire.

It is the height of irresponsibility to feel there's no punishment for all wrong doings. If this is the case then where is the perfect justice?

In Sahih Al-Bukhari (7439) and Muslim (183) it is narrated from Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri (may Allah be pleased with him) in a lengthy Hadith: “……Then the Sirat (bridge) will be laid across Hell.’ We said, "O Messenger of Allah! What is the Sirat?’ He said, ‘It is a slippery bridge on which there are clamps and (hooks-like) thorns which are wide at one side and narrow at the other and have bent ends.

Muslim added: Abu Sa`id (may Allah be pleased with him) said: “I heard that the Sirat is narrower than a hair and sharper than a sword.”

3. Shows how people are saved according to their deeds justly receiving the amount of retribution for wrong doing.
The Sirat is a bridge that will be set up over Hell, over which people will pass according to their deeds. Some will pass as fast as the blink of an eye, or as fast as lightning, or as fast as the wind, or as fast as swift horses. Some will cross running, some walking, some crawling, and some will be snatched and thrown into the Fire, each according to his deeds.


Keep following your fantasy that allows you go in and out of sinful immorality with the illusions that a wrongful belief about or in Jesus will save you and you will bear no repercussions.

Does your Bible tell you there are no repercussions for wrong doing?

How limited is your thinking that you feel the ladder will be material that will be burnt?

Yeshua pbuh is one of the greatest prophets of God and all Muslims believe in him but do not commit the error of equating him to the almighty God.

Did Jesus specifically say I am God?

Do you agree with 1 Corinthians 3:15? Can you explain it in detail as well as 1 Corinthians 3:13?

honesttalk21:


You actually say


I asked you to show the exact sentence stating Muhammad pbuh is the one who placed or places a ladder and you are unable to show this Why?

Also where in the hadith you quote does he (Muhammad pbuh) burn into skeleton?
You are mixing things up.

1. Knowing what will be the fate of those in the fire what is the error in asking to be saved from the fate of falling into and being in the eternal fire?

2. Question 2 does not say all Muslims will be amongst the people of fire.

It is the height of irresponsibility to feel there's no punishment for all wrong doings. If this is the case then where is the perfect justice?

In Sahih Al-Bukhari (7439) and Muslim (183) it is narrated from Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri (may Allah be pleased with him) in a lengthy Hadith: “……Then the Sirat (bridge) will be laid across Hell.’ We said, "O Messenger of Allah! What is the Sirat?’ He said, ‘It is a slippery bridge on which there are clamps and (hooks-like) thorns which are wide at one side and narrow at the other and have bent ends.

Muslim added: Abu Sa`id (may Allah be pleased with him) said: “I heard that the Sirat is narrower than a hair and sharper than a sword.”

3. Shows how people are saved according to their deeds justly receiving the amount of retribution for wrong doing.
The Sirat is a bridge that will be set up over Hell, over which people will pass according to their deeds. Some will pass as fast as the blink of an eye, or as fast as lightning, or as fast as the wind, or as fast as swift horses. Some will cross running, some walking, some crawling, and some will be snatched and thrown into the Fire, each according to his deeds.


Keep following your fantasy that allows you go in and out of sinful immorality with the illusions that a wrongful belief about or in Jesus will save you and you will bear no repercussions.

Does your Bible tell you there are no repercussions for wrong doing?

How limited is your thinking that you feel the ladder will be material that will be burnt?

Yeshua pbuh is one of the greatest prophets of God and all Muslims believe in him but do not commit the error of equating him to the almighty God.

Did Jesus specifically say I am God?

Do you agree with 1 Corinthians 3:15? Can you explain it in detail as well as 1 Corinthians 3:13?

Quran 19:71-72 is very clear.

Why do you fool yourself with a fiction written 200 years after Mohammed about the bridge of Sirat?

You said:

The Sirat is a bridge that will be set up over Hell, over which people will pass according to their deeds. Some will pass as fast as the blink of an eye, or as fast as lightning, or as fast as the wind, or as fast as swift horses. Some will cross running, some walking, some crawling, and some will be snatched and thrown into the Fire, each according to his deeds.

1. Sirat bridge over Hell: But Quran 19:71 has not a single word about OVER
2. Verse 72 nails it for you: will the evildoers also be over the bridge of sirat?





Self deluded human beings who will take the words of their prophet over that of their supposed Allah.

Quran 19:71
There is not one of you who will not go down to it (the Fire), that is a fixed Decree of your Lord

I understand that the bridge is down and not up.

Quran 19:72 
Then We will save those who feared Allah and leave the wrongdoers within it, on their knees."

Verse 71 says
1. ALL Muslims will enter Hell fire
2. It is a Fixed inescapable Decree of Allah
Verse 72 says
1. After an undetermined time, Allah will remove you Muslims and leave the bad people hobbling on their knees

Continue to cook up lies for yourself!

honesttalk21:


You actually say


I asked you to show the exact sentence stating Muhammad pbuh is the one who placed or places a ladder and you are unable to show this Why?

Also where in the hadith you quote does he (Muhammad pbuh) burn into skeleton?
You are mixing things up.

1. Knowing what will be the fate of those in the fire what is the error in asking to be saved from the fate of falling into and being in the eternal fire?

2. Question 2 does not say all Muslims will be amongst the people of fire.

It is the height of irresponsibility to feel there's no punishment for all wrong doings. If this is the case then where is the perfect justice?

In Sahih Al-Bukhari (7439) and Muslim (183) it is narrated from Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri (may Allah be pleased with him) in a lengthy Hadith: “……Then the Sirat (bridge) will be laid across Hell.’ We said, "O Messenger of Allah! What is the Sirat?’ He said, ‘It is a slippery bridge on which there are clamps and (hooks-like) thorns which are wide at one side and narrow at the other and have bent ends.

Muslim added: Abu Sa`id (may Allah be pleased with him) said: “I heard that the Sirat is narrower than a hair and sharper than a sword.”

3. Shows how people are saved according to their deeds justly receiving the amount of retribution for wrong doing.
The Sirat is a bridge that will be set up over Hell, over which people will pass according to their deeds. Some will pass as fast as the blink of an eye, or as fast as lightning, or as fast as the wind, or as fast as swift horses. Some will cross running, some walking, some crawling, and some will be snatched and thrown into the Fire, each according to his deeds.


Keep following your fantasy that allows you go in and out of sinful immorality with the illusions that a wrongful belief about or in Jesus will save you and you will bear no repercussions.

Does your Bible tell you there are no repercussions for wrong doing?

How limited is your thinking that you feel the ladder will be material that will be burnt?

Yeshua pbuh is one of the greatest prophets of God and all Muslims believe in him but do not commit the error of equating him to the almighty God.

Did Jesus specifically say I am God?

Do you agree with 1 Corinthians 3:15? Can you explain it in detail as well as 1 Corinthians 3:13?

It doesn't matter if it was Mohammed who placed the ladder. But he is the first to cross. And the Hadith says they will all come out like Skeletons.

It's stupidly to follow a faith with such promises that doesn't guarantee your salvation.

This is why Mohammed confessed his hopelessness and that of his followers in Sura 46:9.

Christianity is just the opposite.

Jesus died and paid the price for the sins of mankind.

Our sins have been washed away by the blood of Jesus.

If you accept him as your Lord has and Saviour, you are automatically saved. And heaven is guaranteed.

And Jesus proved his statement by rising from the dead. He is alive and in heaven right now. On the contrary, Mohammed is dead and he is in hell right now. And you will join him if you don't repent.

You are asking where Jesus said I am God. Oh, he said it in many ways. And his audience knew he claimed to be God. If you can't decode the message, then you need to see a psychiatrist.

Notice a few statements Jesus made that an ordinary man cannot say;

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

The name I Am is the very name God introduced himself to Abraham. Can an ordinary man make such a statement? Please, use your brain.

Revelation 1:17-18.
17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

Only God can say he is the first and the last.

This is one of the names of your Allah.

In another place, Jesus said he will send the Holy Spirit. How can a mortal man send the Holy spirit?
Please, use your brain.

You are just defending the lies in your religion at all cost. Why not humble yourself and receive the free gift of salvation. Don't let pride make you burn in hell for the rest of your life.

Allah is not God. Mohammed is not a prophet of God. He is a false prophet. He doesn't have the credentials of a prophet. A prophet without prophecies. A prophet without any notable miracle. A prophet who lived grossed immoral life. A prophet that turns members into monsters terrorising the world. Please, repent or perish. Jesus loves you and so do I.

Ken4Christ:


It doesn't matter if it was Mohammed who placed the ladder. But he is the first to cross. And the Hadith says they will all come out like Skeletons.

It's stupidly to follow a faith with such promises that doesn't guarantee your salvation.

This is why Mohammed confessed his hopelessness and that of his followers in Sura 46:9.

Christianity is just the opposite.

Jesus died and paid the price for the sins of mankind.

Our sins have been washed away by the blood of Jesus.

If you accept him as your Lord has and Saviour, you are automatically saved. And heaven is guaranteed.

And Jesus proved his statement by rising from the dead. He is alive and in heaven right now. On the contrary, Mohammed is dead and he is in hell right now. And you will join him if you don't repent.

You are asking where Jesus said I am God. Oh, he said it in many ways. And his audience knew he claimed to be God. If you can't decode the message, then you need to see a psychiatrist.

Notice a few statements Jesus made that an ordinary man cannot say;

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

The name I Am is the very name God introduced himself to Abraham. Can an ordinary man make such a statement? Please, use your brain.

Revelation 1:17-18.
17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

Only God can say he is the first and the last.

This is one of the names of your Allah.

In another place, Jesus said he will send the Holy Spirit. How can a mortal man send the Holy spirit?
Please, use your brain.

You are just defending the lies in your religion at all cost. Why not humble yourself and receive the free gift of salvation. Don't let pride make you burn in hell for the rest of your life.

Allah is not God. Mohammed is not a prophet of God. He is a false prophet. He doesn't have the credentials of a prophet. A prophet without prophecies. A prophet without any notable miracle. A prophet who lived grossed immoral life. A prophet that turns members into monsters terrorising the world. Please, repent or perish. Jesus loves you and so do I.

It is pathetic that you cannot own up to your speaking an untruth about prophet Muhammad pbuh in regard of you saying he (the prophet) is the one who placed the ladder.

Yes prophet Muhammad pbuh is the first to cross the ladder as he is foremost of those to swiftly pass it.

You wrote:

some of them will fall and stay in Hell forever; others will receive punishment (torn into small pieces) and will get out of Hell, till when Allah intends mercy on whomever He likes amongst the people of Hell, HE WILL ORDER THE ANGELS TO TAKE OUT OF HELL THOSE WHO WORSHIPPED NONE BUT HIM ALONE.

You speak English pretty well and understand some is not the same as all. You also know that some is not one of Prophet Muhammad pbuh' s names.

HE WILL ORDER THE ANGELS TO TAKE OUT OF HELL THOSE WHO WORSHIPPED NONE BUT HIM ALONE. The angels will take them out by recognizing them from the traces of prostrations, for Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away those traces. SO THEY WILL COME OUT OF THE FIRE, it will eat away from the whole of the human body except the marks of the prostrations. At that time, THEY WILL COME OUT OF THE FIRE AS MERE SKELETONS.

Can you point to what in your copied statement of hadith above points at all Muslims being taken out of hell? Where does it include prophet Mohammed pbuh as one of those to come out of hell as a mere skeleton?
Rationally the heat of hell is much more than any man made fire yet people get cremated with even the bones burning to ash. Kindly reassess your remarks about stupidity.

Luke 12:47-48 reads The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows.

But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.

Matthew 7:21 states, “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

Ditto the will of the father not the will of Jesus.

You cannot provide a verse where your Jesus directly says he is God but rely on ambiguous statements. Present a clearly stated one if my statement is not correct.

The concept of the Sirat (the Bridge over Hell) is derived from various Hadiths and the explanations provided by scholars based on the teachings of Islam. While the term "Sirat" is not explicitly mentioned in the Quran, the idea of a bridge that people will cross on the Day of Judgment is supported by the following verse:

In Surah Maryam, Chapter 19, Verse 71
And there is none of you except he will come to it. This is upon your Lord an inevitability decreed.

While this verse does not explicitly mention the term "Sirat," it indicates that every soul will inevitably pass over something on the Day of Judgment, which is understood in Islamic teachings to refer to the crossing over the Sirat.

You read verse 71 in exclusion which is grossly inadequate and myopic of you.

Quran 19:68 reads So by your Lord, We will surely gather them and the devils; then We will bring them to be present around [/b]Hell upon their knees." (Qur'an 19:68)

([b]Present around doesn't equate to being inside or are the grasses growing in your lawn inside your house? Unless you have a lawn inside your house building )


This verse describes a scene on the Day of Judgment where humans and devils will be gathered and presented around Hell on their knees. This imagery symbolizes the submission, humility, and accountability of all beings before Allah on that Day. It signifies the recognition of the truth and the acceptance of the consequences of one's actions.

The presentation of humans and devils around Hell on their knees emphasizes the seriousness of the Day of Judgment and the ultimate justice of Allah. It serves as a reminder of the inevitable accountability that all beings will face for their deeds. This scene highlights the power and authority of Allah as the ultimate Judge, and the importance of seeking His guidance and mercy in this life to avoid the punishment of Hell in the Hereafter.

Quran 19:69 then reads Then We will surely extract from every sect those of them who were worst against the Most Merciful in insolence.

Quran 19:70 states Then, surely it is We who are most knowing of those most worthy of burning therein.

These are verses before 19:71 so you best understand the selection process of those deserving from those who aren't.

Quran 46:9 you all like to repeat is simply
Prophet Muhammad pbuh stating what he is instructed to say. That he is not unique among the messengers of Allah; he is doing the will of God as all prophets before him, and that he does not have knowledge of the unseen or what will happen in the future. This verse highlights the concept of destiny (Qadr) in Islam, which is the belief that Allah has knowledge of all things, including what will happen in the future.

Prophet Muhammad pbuh acknowledges that he only conveys the message revealed to him by Allah and that he is a warner to the people. This verse emphasizes the importance of following the guidance and revelations sent by Allah, as they are the source of true knowledge and guidance for humanity. It also serves as a reminder that ultimately, Allah is the Knower of the unseen and the Controller of destiny.

Exact details of all that will happen to a person. I had asked you if you new where you will be if rain falls and can tell exactly how many drops of rain will fall on you and where exactly you will be when this happens.

honesttalk21:


It is pathetic that you cannot own up to your speaking an untruth about prophet Muhammad pbuh in regard of you saying he (the prophet) is the one who placed the ladder.

Yes prophet Muhammad pbuh is the first to cross the ladder as he is foremost of those to swiftly pass it.

You wrote:

some of them will fall and stay in Hell forever; others will receive punishment (torn into small pieces) and will get out of Hell, till when Allah intends mercy on whomever He likes amongst the people of Hell, HE WILL ORDER THE ANGELS TO TAKE OUT OF HELL THOSE WHO WORSHIPPED NONE BUT HIM ALONE.

You speak English pretty well and understand some is not the same as all. You also know that some is not one of Prophet Muhammad pbuh' s names.

HE WILL ORDER THE ANGELS TO TAKE OUT OF HELL THOSE WHO WORSHIPPED NONE BUT HIM ALONE. The angels will take them out by recognizing them from the traces of prostrations, for Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away those traces. SO THEY WILL COME OUT OF THE FIRE, it will eat away from the whole of the human body except the marks of the prostrations. At that time, THEY WILL COME OUT OF THE FIRE AS MERE SKELETONS.

Can you point to what in your copied statement of hadith above points at all Muslims being taken out of hell? Where does it include prophet Mohammed pbuh as one of those to come out of hell as a mere skeleton?
Rationally the heat of hell is much more than any man made fire yet people get cremated with even the bones burning to ash. Kindly reassess your remarks about stupidity.

Luke 12:47-48 reads The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows.

But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.

Matthew 7:21 states, “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

Ditto the will of the father not the will of Jesus.

You cannot provide a verse where your Jesus directly says he is God but rely on ambiguous statements. Present a clearly stated one if my statement is not correct.

Also provide for me the any scripture where Jesus said, I am not God, don't worship him.

You will keep arguing until your soul enters hell.

Show me any scripture in your Quran which says that Mohammed will not be hurt by the fire of hell.

All those that Allah pulls out of hell are certainly Muslims. Or will Allah save those whom he has condemned?

There is no point arguing with you. Follow your Allah to hell and I will follow my Jesus to heaven.

Ken4Christ:


Also provide for me the any scripture where Jesus said, I am not God, don't worship him.

You will keep arguing until your soul enters hell.

Show me any scripture in your Quran which says that Mohammed will not be hurt by the fire of hell.

All those that Allah pulls out of hell are certainly Muslims. Or will Allah save those whom he has condemned?

There is no point arguing with you. Follow your Allah to hell and I will follow my Jesus to heaven.

You stubbornly refuse to acknowledge your false claim that prophet Muhammad pbuh will burn and come out as a skeleton.

Did Jesus not say during the Last Supper: “Father,… This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent” (John 17.3)?

Jesus acknowledges being sent by God but you rather twist this to be God sent God?

He also told his Jewish opponents that the Father is “the one and only God” (John 5.44) and commanded his disciples, “believe in God, believe also in Me” (John 14.1) The belief in me is Jesus emphasis as bearing word from God. Not equating himself to or calling himself God

The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "I will be the first to intercede and the first whose intercession will be accepted. I will be the first to be granted permission to intercede and the first to intercede. I will be the first for whom the earth will be split open, and I will be the first to cross the Sirat (bridge over Hell), and I will be the first to enter Paradise." (Sahih Muslim Book 1)

You obviously turn a blind eye to

...Verily those (hooks) would be like the thorns of Sa'dan, but no one knows their size except Allah. These would seize people for their misdeeds. Some of them would escape for their (good) deeds, and some would be rewarded for their deeds till they get salvation.

Disappointed you cannot hoodwink me as you do others? May Allah keep me on the right path and save me and other Muslims from getting misled by you and your type. Ameen