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Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology / Worldly Targets Set By Churches: How My Friend Began Preaching Rubbish / "I Have Seen My House In Heaven, I Can't Wait To Go" - Pastor Adeboye (2) (3) (4)
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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 5:43am On Jun 17 |
MaxInDHouse: oh duh most dum and lost false jw mad max @bold, those who leave false jw org. are not disowning Christ oh most confused one: 1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints 2 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:45am On Jun 17 |
Aemmyjah:I have done my homework and research in a thorough way before dedicating my life as one of Jehovah's Witnesses so i can confidently, boldly assure anyone that that's the one and only organization belonging to God. The apostates thought they've known all since they were raised in God's organization so there is nothing more to know but just ask any of them to present another church he or she will like to associate with after leaving God's organization instantly they will be provoked! The wumiwumi guy said he is an elder, he gave the talk yesterday, he knows Bethelites who are looking for a way out of the organization all of that he was saying to me but when i asked him the $1,000,000,000 question: "Which church are you eyeing after leaving God's organization?" He flared up saying i shouldn't call it God's organization but Jehovah's Witnesses organization. OK i rephrased the question: "Which church are you eyeing after leaving Jehovah's Witnesses organization?" He said it's none of my business. Abeg why did he quote me in the first place if his faith is none of my business? Ọmọ the judgment has begun pure worship has been restored so all those not disposed for everlasting life will take their leave while the precious gems among the nations will flock into God's organization. When you see all these things happening "stand up straight and lift up your heads, because your deliverance is getting near.” Luke 21:28 So my brother “exert yourselves vigorously to get in through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will seek to get in but will not be able." Luke 13:24 See you when all evildoers are gone! Psalms 37:7-11 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:54am On Jun 17 |
johnw47:Deeperlife, The Apostolic Church, Apostolic Faith, C.A.C, RCCG, Christ Embassy, Winner Chanel, M.F.M., Lord's Chosen, Foursquare, Catholics, Anglican, SCOAN and many more are contradicting themselves in teachings and doctrines that's not CONFUSION to you shey? Just yesterday you quoted the Pope saying what you feels is wrong o yet that's the spiritual head of the most populated denomination in Christendom. You're just lying to your own soul!
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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:21am On Jun 17 |
wumiwumi100: Ọmọ brother Jackson said: "It will be presumptuous to say that" Their brother and master also faced the same question when he walked the earth! “By what authority do you do these things? And who gave you this authority?” Matthew 21:23 To rephrase that question they mean to say: "Are you the only means of salvation?" Since he entered into the temple and started doing as if he has authority to do and undo in God's Temple. John 2:13-17 Jesus asked them a rhetorical question if they believe John the baptist. So those asking brother Jackson should ask themselves: Which religion is gathering millions throughout the earth and making them zealous preachers and industrious teachers of God's word just as Jesus commanded in the Bible? Matthew 28:19-20 If it's only the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses then they are God's only channel of communication. Of course it's apostates of your kind that will tell those people to put my brother into that tight situation so i perfectly understand what happened in that video. Get to know today that God's organization and pure worship has been restored so if you're no longer feeling comfortable in our midst please take your leave but you can't drag others along with you Jehovah's sheep will stay within the city of refuge when the avenger of blood comes around my people will be saved! Joshua 20:9 I know you're just growing in the faith so if you want to know more about the city of refuge and the avenger of blood go and and ask the elders in your congregation to enlighten you, you don't have to tell that what led to it just tell them one of their brothers told you something about the city of refuge and the avenger of blood on Nairaland! |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 6:23am On Jun 17 |
MaxInDHouse: Ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool oh duh most dum and lost false jw mad max i wasn't talking about those churches, i was talking about you and false jw org. see your confusion yet oh blinded false accuser: confused: 1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints blinded: 2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them false accuser: Rev_12:10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night. 2 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 6:30am On Jun 17 |
MaxInDHouse: oh duh most dum and lost false jw mad max as i said, those who leave false jw org. are not disowning Christ oh most confused one, but they are disowning your christ who you say is a deceiver: 1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints 2 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:10am On Jun 17 |
JEHOVAH is so good that no one can find a replacement for Him or His organization! |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 9:44am On Jun 17 |
johnw47: A divide and rule tactics to lie and manipulate people. That's why their good news is always Jehovah’s witnesses are the only ones who don't go to war to kill fellow Jehovah's Witnesses in order to advance that other religious denominations go to war to fight one another and just like you stated put others against one another. 4 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 9:46am On Jun 17 |
johnw47: They cannot be good in the eyes of others the moment they stop lying. That's why they must keep covering their errors they use to call others liars. 4 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 9:46am On Jun 17 |
MaxInDHouse: A concept that does not exist in the Bible. It is in your Bible that when you have Jesus paapaa you have Jehovah. Who needs Jehovah's organization? Jehovah's organization na lies pack into your brains 2 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 9:49am On Jun 17 |
johnw47: Yes they are indeed disowning those Christ MaxInDHouse bow to those Jesus mentioned in Matthew 24:5....for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. The 9 Governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses says they are the anointed ones who collectively are the voice of Jesus today. In essence they are saying they are the Christ and are misleading many 4 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 9:52am On Jun 17 |
MaxInDHouse: Your religious organization are very much among the 41,000 contradicting themselves in teachings and doctrines. MaxInDHouse already agreed to that. Changing mouth over it buttress the fact that you are a liar and manipulator 3 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 9:56am On Jun 17 |
Courz: No be small work wumiwumi100 is doing. Climbing platform week in week out keeping up appearances knowing it mostly lies and manipulations. We too sabi how the package be before we pack load say enough is enough. Once he reach the front of the queue he will leave jejely. Climbing the ladder of the that organization will expose more the hypocrisy in their midst. It is their pants and slacks wearing regimented conscience that will make an individual remain 2 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by wumiwumi100(m): 9:57am On Jun 17 |
MaxInDHouse: Jesus was bold and courageous, unlike Jackson, whose fear of men prevents him from speaking the truth. Could you imagine if Christ had responded to Caesar the way G. Jackson did? Caesar: “Are you the King of the Jews?!” Christ: “Uhhhh, well... it would be quite presumptuous for me to claim that I’m the only king of the Jews.” According to Luke 6:6-11, Jesus demonstrated courage by healing the man with the withered hand on the Sabbath, despite knowing that the Pharisees and scribes were watching Him closely, seeking to accuse Him of breaking the Sabbath laws. Jesus showed courage in several ways: He knew the risks: Jesus was aware of the Pharisees' intentions and the potential consequences of His actions, but He chose to act anyway. He confronted the critics: Jesus addressed the Pharisees' concerns directly, asking them if it was lawful to do good or harm on the Sabbath. He took action: Despite the potential backlash, Jesus healed the man, showing that His compassion and commitment to doing good outweighed His fear of criticism. He stood firm: Even after the Pharisees became enraged and plotted against Him, Jesus remained steadfast in His actions and message. By healing the man on the Sabbath, Jesus demonstrated that His priorities were focused on showing love, compassion, and kindness, rather than fearing the opinions of others. This took great courage and continues to inspire people to stand up for what is right, even in the face of adversity. Unlike Jesus, G. Jackson and the Governing Body are not courageous enough to assert in court that they are the sole channel of God on earth. 5 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 9:58am On Jun 17 |
Courz: He must find a way to dodge the missiles coming within his very own religious organization. He got hooked on whether to call him enemy, brother or friend knowing which ever direction he turns put him and his religious organization in bad spotlight 2 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 10:01am On Jun 17 |
Courz: To see more and the extent to which they can lie is when they are in court. You see where they categorically say they will lie to members and members are to accept the lies at all cost to maintain unity . 2 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 10:02am On Jun 17 |
johnw47: A big hypocrite who said it is not right for members of his religious organization to not post nude pictures only for him to start sharing some for us on his thread 2 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 10:03am On Jun 17 |
johnw47: They have to run when their lies cannot hold up against the truth. 3 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 10:04am On Jun 17 |
johnw47: Looool 2 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by wumiwumi100(m): 10:05am On Jun 17 |
achorladey: It's not easy at all. You know the feeling you get when you say something you know is a lie. I am already causing some real trouble among the body of elders. I don't allow them to police people arbitrarily or discipline publishers as they wish. I've also won the majority of the elders to my side, so anything I say is final. The body of elders is like politics: the majority wins the context. But by next month, I will resign from my position as an elder. 4 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 10:06am On Jun 17 |
MaxInDHouse: Seeking consolation as usual. 3 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 10:06am On Jun 17 |
johnw47: MaxInDHouse did you see the message? 4 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:06am On Jun 17 |
I have always told all enemies of God's people on this forum that we have our own common language that wherever we hear it no matter what religion such a belongs presently he or she is one of Jehovah's Witnesses and no matter who the person is or his office of oversight in God's organization once he can't speak our language he or she missed his road he will sooner or later find his way out of God's organization. God's organization! If a Buddhist, Hindu, Judaist, Muslim or member of any religion strongly believe that only his religion is God's only channel to reach mankind such a person is one of Jehovah's Witnesses we call them the lost sheep of the house of Israel! |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 10:08am On Jun 17 |
MaxInDHouse: consolation mode activated. MaxInDHouse are you happy? Psalms 1:1 See you when all evildoers are gone! Psalms 37:7-11 Ask Anthony Morris III he is no longer a faithful and discreet slave after demonstrating how despicable apostates will go up like smoke 3 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 10:15am On Jun 17 |
wumiwumi100: Na the concept Jehovah's organization dey colour their thinking and vision. . 3 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 10:20am On Jun 17 |
wumiwumi100: You see that politics ehn no be small in the midst of elders. Even the circuit overseer looks more like the godfather in whatever circuit he serve regarding playing politics with lives of their members made subject under them The shock of your resignation go catch them, they start running helter-skelter to seek why 3 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 10:22am On Jun 17 |
MaxInDHouse: You must console your lies and manipulations filled brains If a Buddhist, Hindu, Judaist, Muslim or member of any religion strongly believe that only his religion is God's only channel to reach mankind such a person is one of Jehovah's Witnesses we call them the lost sheep of the house of Israel You don't call them lost sheep of the house of Israel, they are part of babylon the great empire of false religion. 4 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 10:31am On Jun 17 |
For your reading delight... As I understand it, people who no longer want to be known as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, but who have been, must then dissociate; is that right?” says Angus Stewart, the Senior Counsel Assisting to the Australian Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse. Stewart looks briefly up at the witness under oath and then back at his notes. Across from him is a TV screen projecting a videoconference feed of Geoffrey Jackson, a member of the eight-man governing body of Jehovah’s Witnesses responsible for the spiritual and organizational leadership of over 8.5 million Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide. Jackson: No, not necessarily. I meet many people in my travels that perhaps were Jehovah’s Witnesses at one stage but then have decided no longer to be active. So, they haven’t gone through a formal process. Stewart: Well, I have chosen my words deliberately, Mr. Jackson. Stewart repeats the question, challenging Jackson’s evasion. Stewart: If someone no longer wants to be known as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, they must then disassociate; is that right? Jackson: Again, please, if they want to take the action of doing that. But, of course, they have total freedom. If they don’t want to apply to officially be removed as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, they can tell anyone they want that they are no longer a Jehovah’s Witness. 2 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 10:34am On Jun 17 |
The prosecutor then reads from the official policy of Jehovah’s Witnesses as published by the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society of Pennsylvania (WTS) regarding the procedure for discontinuing membership as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. The policy is clear: if a Jehovah’s Witness (JW) decides that she no longer wants to be a member of the religion, she must disassociate herself and will be shunned from the community. Further, if she chooses not to formally disassociate but is later discovered to have violated the organization’s strict code of conduct, she will be disfellowshipped. (Disfellowshipping refers to WTS’s disciplinary policy of formal excommunication from the religion. The policy also calls upon close friends and blood relatives to shun the disfellowshipped person.) Stewart again attempts to hold Jackson to the unambiguous policy of disassociation and disfellowshipping enforced by the influential preacher. Stewart: So is it the case, then, that someone who no longer wants to be recognized as or known as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses must then disassociate? Jackson: No, it doesn’t say that they must do anything. If you read on, you will see there is a process. This gives the person the right to officially have an announcement made that they are no longer one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. But, as I already said, if they decide they don’t want to exercise that right, they don’t automatically come under this provision. Stewart: But then people who don’t exercise that right are then (...) still subject to the rules and discipline of the organization, aren’t they? 2 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 10:38am On Jun 17 |
Jackson evades again. Jackson: I would have to check on that, because personally that’s not my field. But my understanding is, if a person has made it known by their actions in the community over a period of years that they are not a Witness, we would only hold any reports in abeyance until they decided they wanted to return. Stewart pushes back once more. Stewart: Mr. Jackson, I have to say that my understanding is if someone in that position is caught transgressing one of the rules, they would still be subject to the disciplinary proceedings, including possibly disfellowshipping; is that not right? Jackson: That is a possibility, but in all fairness to your question, I think there are circumstances, but I couldn’t make a definitive comment on that. 2 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 10:41am On Jun 17 |
Stewart goes on to present a hypothetical in which a JW who chooses not to formally disassociate and face shunning from his friends and family is caught by congregation elders celebrating Christmas or a birthday (customs considered by JWs to be part of false religion and detestable to God). Stewart: They would be found to be in transgression of the rules, would they not? Jackson: That is not my understanding. But again, as I said, it is not my field, that goes into policy with regard to those types of things, but from my personal experience, that’s not the case. Stewart (indignantly): Mr. Jackson, you say it’s not your field, but you are a member of the Governing Body which is responsible, as you have said, for the whole field, and you have been a member for 10 years, and all the committees are responsible to and accountable to the Governing Body. Jackson: That is correct. You see how a governing body member can lie under oath To be continued........ 3 Likes |
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 10:46am On Jun 17 |
At this point in the proceedings, Stewart is only barely able to conceal his frustration. Official policy is clear: every JW is subject to the rules of the organization under threat of judicial action. This includes prohibitions on premarital sex, the celebration of holidays, voting, and violating the policy of shunning by having spiritual association with ex-member family or friends. Stewart: Well, there’s no middle road, is there? I mean, you are either a member and subject to the organization or are not – isn’t it the case? Jackson: Yes, but I thought you were asking me about disassociation. Stewart: Well, I am, indeed. So if someone hasn’t disassociated but has sought merely to become inactive or to fade [away from the organization], they are then still subject to the organization’s discipline and rules? Jackson: If they acknowledge being one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Stewart: And if they do the contrary – which is to say they are not one of Jehovah’s Witnesses – the effect of that is disassociation? Jackson: That’s if they decide to go down that course. (…) Stewart: So someone who wants to leave the organization must choose, you accept, between freedom from the organization on the one hand and friends, family, and social network on the other? 1 Like |
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