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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 7:10pm On Jun 17 |
IjeBos: Your original claim was I was spreading propaganda that it is a black church, then you showed photos of whites who were in the church to see trump but may not be members of the ch urch to disprove it is a black church on a Saturday. And you accused others for spreading propaganda. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 7:23pm On Jun 17 |
budaatum: There seems to be an emotional underpinning why you can't let this go. Is truly asinine to argue you can understand something without experiencing that thing first. It's such asinine logic, it gives me a headache. If you love the US so much, get a ticket to the US and visit some cities. At least it'll get you on the path to a fuller understanding of the country. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 7:32pm On Jun 17 |
IjeBos: Budaatum see 😂😂😂 |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 7:32pm On Jun 17 |
bemeruca: This conversation: Me trying to explain to a white person what "Black church" is. Not doing it with your wannabe white man ignant ass.
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 7:37pm On Jun 17 |
bemeruca: Don Lemon on it. 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 7:37pm On Jun 17 |
IjeBos: I have never lived in Israel nor Palestine, and nor have I ever experienced what those who live there experience. Judge for yourself if I understand or not from what I've posted on the subject and I will live with your judgement. IjeBos:I don't love the US at all, and nor do I have any interest in going there not to talk of living there amongst the dumb fuqs that scare you who live there in a nation that had to fight war to teach itself to hold the truths it claimed were self-evident that all men are created equal. They have this thing called an amendment that lets them carry guns for christsakes, but they want to ban the pill! The ignorance scares me, so I'd rather remain where I am, thank you very much, watching and learning about you from afar. Love America my ass! And I now suppose I'd see you switch and give me the "if you hate America" version, which I don't. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 7:44pm On Jun 17 |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 7:45pm On Jun 17 |
budaatum: You can understand it to a degree, but I'm sure visiting it would enhance your understanding. I visited France in high school to better understand the culture just so I could speak better French. I'm Nigerian, spend a good amount of time in Nigeria, but understand my knowledge about it is incomplete as I don't actively live there. So, when I want to understand something better esp. about the culture, I call my boys there. I'm ok acknowledging that. Why is this something that is even in discussion? It's a truism. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 7:51pm On Jun 17 |
budaatum: Anothe hoax like the big switch.north south. Jews were Palestinians, now Arabs are Palestinians 2 Likes
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 8:05pm On Jun 17 |
basilico: Lmao... Maybe Don Lemon will come and tell us that he grew up in Palestine and all the time he has been in Palestine, Jews were not Palestinians. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 8:16pm On Jun 17 |
@budaatum, from today, you have to add trigger warning on all your posts. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 8:52pm On Jun 17 |
IjeBos:Visiting might "enhance your understanding", but I'd only need to observe people who've visited Disney or who live in US all their lives and only understand US to a degree that I would argue is nearer to zero to disabuse myself of that stupid illogical thought, don't you think? IjeBos: That's you. I've visited France a number of times, but mostly, I read lots of French history and philosophy, not to learn dates or remember names, but to understand how its culture developed so I can better understand its culture today. But I guess we'd need to accept your degree is better because you visited and speak French. IjeBos: Dude. It must be very difficult for you to accept that there are people who have lived all their lives in Nigeria who don't even know Nigeria has cultures not to speak of understand what those cultures are and how they interact and affect each other. In fact, I'm rather surprised that despite your "spend a good amount of time in Nigeria", you don't seem to know it is Nigerian culture for some dumb fuq who knows very little to stand in your face and say you know fuq. Perhaps your "spend a good amount of time in Nigeria" taught you little I guess. IjeBos: I like Nairaland for one thing, Ije. Its fruitiness is divine. Not even, "Call Harvard there"? Me, I don't "call my boys there". I get off my ass and do my research with the sweat off my own brow is what I do. There's books afterall, and though much less these days, they have been my daily bread, still its far more than most get from living there not to talk of just visit I'd have thought, especially since one can't exactly visit or send ones boys to the Estates General of 1789 or the Battle of Tours/Poitiers to find out for one. Or does one not need to learn such knowledge to understand French culture, I wonder. Its the buda ego you see. First, it arrogantly doesn't trust that boys would do the work to make sure their eyes work like buda's do. And boys got better things to do than just feed buda their own understanding of anything not to talk of a culture of an entire nation. That, Ijebos, is buda's egotistically self chosen truism. And we are discussing it because you'd rather buda accept your truism which buda obviously doesn't because it is flawed logic, and is like a professor in Harvard arguing their understanding is superior "because my tenure is longer". "Call your boys", lol! 1 Share
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 8:54pm On Jun 17 |
bemeruca: Warning saying what? Not for stupid idiots, perhaps? |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 9:06pm On Jun 17 |
In that story, Ijebos, i guess I should have pulled rank and said I was born there and should know better than them. But despite that being only sIx months of living there, I'd already learnt what happened to ajebutas who pulled rank, especially when they argue God said in a language they can't speak in a book they haven't read. Dem "your boys", I'd bet. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 9:16pm On Jun 17 |
budaatum: Just add it for the sake of the people you trigger. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 9:18pm On Jun 17 |
bemeruca: Did buda trigger you? Tell us where and how buda triggered you so your sake can be considered please. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 9:23pm On Jun 17 |
budaatum: IjeBos: |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 9:30pm On Jun 17 |
bemeruca, love thy neighbour does not suit those who drop tactical nuclear bombs on those whose lands you stole. Please concern yourself with your own sake. Besides. He deserves it.
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 9:38pm On Jun 17 |
budaatum: If my neighbors tries to wipe me out, I will do the same. 🤣😂 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 9:46pm On Jun 17 |
bemeruca: Stop being dramatic. No one is wiping anyone out. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 9:50pm On Jun 17 |
budaatum: As I said it's ur ego not allowing you to believe that you aren't the end all and be all of knowledge. I crossed that bridge a while ago. You seem to be stuck on it. But back to you what you wrote. I didn't want to say this as I was sparing your ego, but it is a uniquely Nigerian thing for people who know little of a topic to try to lecture others who know more, on it. It's always embarrassing and cringeworthy when it I see it. It's frustrating and exhausting and it's what you do here sometimes. Now, my goal in life is to get as complete information as quickly as possible. And of course the goal is finding the right source. Now if I wanted to understand how a Tesla engine works I could spend hours/days googling it, or I could call up a head Tesla engineer for information. Which would be preferable? Now "my boys" are the equivalent of a head Tesla engineer in Nigeria. If I need anything, I can connect to someone "in the actual know". Ex. I used to run alot. In the US I could get get away with running at a certain time even in the summer. Tried it in Naij one day and almost died. Now I could have spent time researching the best time to run in Lagos heat or I could call up my boy who lives in Lagos, started a running club in Lagos and flies around the world competing in marathons, and ask what time he runs. All in under 1 minute. Which is a more preferable path? So, I guess it boils down to 1.) ego, can you acknowledge that you aren't the end all and be all of information. And 2.) do you have a circle such that you can reach out to people and get proper information/perspective. And as you've noticed I'm a pretty sure of myself, so when I say "my boys", I'm talking about very legit people. But, I'm cracking up here that you said "call your boys" in quotes. If you only knew. If you had my boys, you'd want to call them too. Lol. But odd this is even a discussion. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 10:52pm On Jun 17 |
Elon musk's employees are suing again. This is stupid |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 12:12am On Jun 18 |
IjeBos: ---Trump's MEGA MAGA Rally at Black Church in Detriot--- https://twitter.com/i/status/1802407234497884619 |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:02am On Jun 18 |
ijebosb: I don't need to believe that I am not the end of all knowledge! Knowledge is far too massively big for even the massive buda ego to know it all, so don't be telling me not to believe what I never told you I believed please. ijebosb:No you didn't crossed that bridge. ijebosb: First, I am not lecturing you. I don't come on nairaland looking for people to lecture. Most of us come here to exchange our views and opinions with others who have views and opinions that may agree or differs to ours, and we learn pretty early not to assume arrogance of any knowledge because we would surely hit one who knows more. Such people, however, prove their point with the evidence they provide and by the quality of their argument, and I am telling you that claiming "you don't live here" as the basis of an argument is no different to "I am older than you, or I am wealthier than you or went to a better school than you went or speak better english than you speak or you are a man and I am a woman or you white and got tacticals so I must shut the fuq up. That shit just ain't liberal! ijebosb: You will call up Tesla engineer for the culture of Tesla because you haven't got the time and patience to diligently research the culture of Tesla yourself, so therefore, buda too also must call up the Tesla engineer? ijebosb: buda hereby acknowledges that buda is not the end all and be all of information, and nor has buda ever claimed buda was or is the end all and be of all information. And fir your information, i have found this tk be the basus of most argument that i get in to, and its usually with small ego people who feel threatened by the ego of others. They are easily recognised by how they adorn themselves with the trinkets of their car or living or their earnings or harvard or they lived their longer. I call it the Nigerian "Who got the bigger diq". And its not a game I play. ijebosb: I have got you, Ijebosb, every day in my circle, at least as far as US is concerned and the facts go. And when you present facts, I often read them, and sometimes I like and share them, but this is not about facts, but about your opinion of the facts, as in your subjective view of things, and don't you think its silly to claim your subjective opinion is far superior because you live in a place? Besides, its not like I am asking anyone to interpret what I see for me now do I, or don't you know how big buda's ego is? For reference, Eve freed herself from slavery in Eden where she was being kept naked and ignorant, but I guess you'd rather ask your boys. ijebosb:Just listen to yourself. Boasting about your boys without seeing how you've gone from bothering to visit to just asking your boys. No matter how many boys you may have, how the fuq can they possibly explain the culture of anywhere to you without including their own biases and ignorance in what they tell you? Or don't you mind? Still, good for you. I will not call any boys to tell me the culture of anywhere, Ijebosb, even if they live there, because my boys don't have the time, and I have the ability to research myself from many sides and angles over many centuries they can't possibly tell me about.
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PDPGuy: 1:10am On Jun 18 |
bemeruca:I’m not sure how factual that claim is 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 1:45am On Jun 18 |
PDPGuy: Well, the hood could be a particular area in Detroit. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:47am On Jun 18 |
PDPGuy: American culture at its capitalist best. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-visit-detroit-church-part-black-voter-push-2024-06-15/ 1 Like
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 2:10am On Jun 18 |
bemeruca: Bwahahhahahahah. I'm dead. Tell me you've never stepped foot in the US, without telling me you never stepped foot in the US. Bwahahahhahah. I'm dead. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 2:33am On Jun 18 |
budaatum: If you punched me and I dodged it, does that mean you were not trying to punch me? Just because Israel can defend itself does not mean these people won't wipe them out if they could. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_iFUkty33w This is life in Israel... Just imagine how the world will react if Israel starts to do like Hezbollah |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 2:51am On Jun 18 |
budaatum: Tell me how could you possibly research the culture of a place without speaking to someone who works there? Maybe you don't understand what culture is. budaatum: Have I ever claimed that? I claim your opinion is lacking a cultural perspective. You don't understand the things you don't understand. budaatum:Bothering to visit? Lol. That's an emotional response right there. Will be in Naij 3 times this year not including last years Xmas trip. budaatum: Ding Ding Ding. So, you do get it. But you're spinning so rapidly you don't even understand what you are saying. If my boys include their own bias and ignorance, how can you understand US culture just by reading books with their own biases and ignorances attached? Ding Ding Ding. As to my boys, I've been in Naij enough to understand what biases could be in play and who to ask for what based on their bias. And even then, I get a couple of perspectives from differing people who I know may have divergent views/biases. budaatum: If your boys don't have time for you, get new boys. One of my closest friends in Naij is a CEO of a top company in a top sector. If I reach out to him I'll get a response in a couple of hours at the latest. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 2:55am On Jun 18 |
bemeruca: He said "the hood" could be a particular area in Detroit. BWahahahhahahah Budaatum, this is the point I've been making. Bemeruca has so little understating of US culture and is so out of touch with it, he doesn't even know how patently asinine and ridiculous sounding what he wrote is. And he wouldn't know if I didn't make fun of him for it. He tries to pretend he lives in the US, but he doesn't even know how to pretend because he doesn't understand what he has to lie about to even begin pretending. He said "the hood" could be a particular area in Detroit. BWahahahhahahah |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 3:28am On Jun 18 |
ijebosb: No Ijebosb. buda has never ever had the privilege to speak to an American. Thankfully, you came along. With your culture. Having lived in US. ijebosb:Ijebosb, we read many books. Books that agree with our view, and books that disagree with our view, so we get different perspectives and opinions. That's how we avoid other peoples bias and ignorance. And even before that we spend years reading lots of books just to develop our own reading abilities and our understanding abilities so we can minimise.our own biases getting in the way of our understanding. After all, its not as if we are uneducated idiots who just believe what is written in a book or whatever crap we create in our head now are we? Personally, I wonder about you. Did you not learn Latin? Did you go to Latinland for your understanding of the culture or did you ask one of your boys for that? |
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