TheGoodJoe:


You can't grow up you are not learning. There is a reason why domination happens by those who have mastered how to play well.

The Romanians might celebrate tonight but with time, the Ukrainians will do better because they have chosen to grow.

elyte89:
Brown ideye just said we don’t have a team,saying we shld forget d names.dt Dey re highly indiscipline …we shld forget d fluke dt happened at nations cup from d X space

TheGoodJoe:


I think in the end there is a misconception about what really Masters. In tournaments, statements actually live longer than winning titles.

Let me explain further.

Germany's 7-1 demolition of Brazil will live longer than Italy carrying the World Cup. Note that Germany won their own World Cup but the 7-1 demolition stays longer in the memory and will be replayed longer.

Also, the Dutch 1974 side will be remembered longer than even France winning 1998 world cup. There are people that have the frames of that team and coaching schools teaching off those tapes.

Finally, the Brazilian team of Spain 82 side is still remembered and celebrated than many teams that won the World Cup.

I believe statements and impacts last longer than winning cups. To achieve statements is to grow as a team.

elyte89:



Aw I wish deres a voice note on dis nairaland


Why majority preferred Sia Sia ahead of amunike on dis space is …this present squad is highly indiscipline and Dey need a personal who can correct dt and stand on what Dey want

Remember dis journalist know dis coaches personality (citing aw Sia Sia managed Mikel ins 2005, 2008 and 2018 or so

Mujtahida:

Oga Sir, tiki taka is not synonymous to growth in football for God's sake. What sort of a single story narrative of football, borne out of your own personal preference are you trying to foist on us by constantly harping about tiki taka as the definitive style of football?

This game has history for God's sake. We have seen all styles of football win trophies and leagues.

You like beans doesn't mean beans is the best food. Others like rice, some yam, fufu and so on

May tiki taka perish!

TheGoodJoe:


Time will tell.

Finito.

Mujtahida:

Oga Sir, tiki taka is not synonymous to growth in football for God's sake. What sort of a single story narrative of football, borne out of your own personal preference are you trying to foist on us by constantly harping about tiki taka as the definitive style of football?

This game has history for God's sake. We have seen all styles of football win trophies and leagues.

You like beans doesn't mean beans is the best food. Others like rice, some yam, fufu and so on

May tiki taka perish!

elyte89:
From d space …brown ideye compared d 2013 team to dis 2023 team.. d difference is during deir time in 2013

D late keshi was feared by all his players..he told them point blank dt he can call off their bluffs by dropping deir ass to d bench irrespective of where u play ..so this message made dem sit tight


There was a leader in team (yobo) also feared by his teammates..he buttressed dt u won’t want to have problems with yobo…A 10minutes late to d team dining ..yobo will send u back to the room and u might not train that day…so in a nutshell,d team was highly motivated and disciplined…he said dis present team lacked dt sighting players drinking and smoking heavily prior to the two important games (sa and Benin 🇧🇯)…he said a lot about dis team,majority here don’t know …No leader,nobody to inspire odas to put deir all to win matches even wout d coach tactics.


On d issue of foreign coach…those journalists dt are close to nff and those working with nff presently confirmed Dey can’t afford any foreign coach

They revealed dt even d budget for ministry of sport(98 percent of it went to nysc alone) while d remaining 2percent was shared btw nff and oda sport federation

Mujtahida:

Time will tell nada. This game has history. All styles of football win, all styles of football loose.

MetalJigsaw:
"I remembered when Victor Osimhen abused Victor Ikpeba, because Ikpeba accused him of wasting the chanced he should have scored in the world cup play off against Ghana, I mentioned in some of the shows I attended that time, he should be santioned and be made to pay fine and apologize to Ikpeba.

I was so shocked today, when I saw the video where he was lashing out at Finidi on Instagram, using fowl languages, calling Finidi by name, he didn't say, coach Finidi, uncle Finidi, Mr Finidi, but he called him by name. Such behavior is highly condemnable, and should not go unpunished. Finidi can born Osimhen, what Finidi achieved in football, Osimhen can never achieve it, Finidi help Nigeria qualify for world cup twice and play in world cup twice, Osimhen couldn't help Nigeria qualify for world cup and has not played in world cup. Finidi won champion's league with Ajax, Osimhen is yet to win it, Finidi is an AFCON winner, Osimhen has not achieved that. Finidi was the best number 7 in his days, Osimhen is not the best number 9 currently. As current African footballer of the year, he is an ambassador of Africa as a whole, not just Nigeria, therefore someone like him must not be seen with such dirty action.

Now coming to the matter, Finidi shouldn't have mentioned name, he should have talked generally, but I understand his frustration. But come to think of it, their is no lie in what Finidi said about Osimhen, since Osimhen has become the team's number one striker, he has been selecting matches he will play, in the last 5 years, most of the friendly matches the super eagles have played, Osimhen has always opted out, anyone who is doubting should go and research, I stand to be challenged and corrected. He will claim he is injured, but immediately after the friendly, you will see him playing in Napoli.
We all remember how he colluded with his club to opt out of AFCON 2 years ago, up till today, the reason for opting out is not clear.

This is always the problem with so many Nigerian players, most expecially those that sees themselves as the most important players in the team, Austin Okocha and Kanu Nwakwo too were selecting matches they will play in their own time, that is why Nigeria could not qualify for world cup in 2006, because they were not honouring invitation for world cup qualifiers matches away from home, I remember when a journalist asked Okocha why he didn't honour a particular match, he responded by saying he is not a machine.

Mikel Obi and Victor Moses too did the same thing, I remembered Stephen Keshi dealt with Mikel Obi because of that, by not inviting him for close to a year, it was the last qualifying match for 2013 AFCON that he invited him again, and ever since, Mikel did not try that again.

Obafemi Martins was doing same thing, Nigeria almost not qualify for 2010 world cup, because Martins and some players were not honouring away matches, that was the reason Amodu shuaibu wanted to drop him for 2010 AFCON in Angola, if not for the public outcry and the intervention of the NFF, Amodu would have dropped him. Even when they got to Angola, Amodu put him on the bench, and was using Yakubu Ayegbeni, Ozase Odewenge and Chinedu Obasi upfront, martins will only come in at the tail end of the match.

We can go on and on, it's a problem with our players, they are arrogant, they feel too big, they fill uncontrollable.

My suggestion is that, henceforth, let their be a code of conduct for every members of the team and the technical crew about dos and donts, that anyone who er, anyone who does contrary will be made to face sanction.

Back to Osimhen, he must be disciplined, he must be ban for sometime from the team and must be made to apologize to Finidi and Ikpeba."

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TheGoodJoe:


Because of your love for direct football, you call tactical ideas theories and have no understanding of it. While me, a lover of the possessive game has gained a lot of tactical understanding of it.

This is a clear example of the tactical growth that comes from the modern heavy possessive approach.

elyte89:
😎

Mujtahida:

False. Nothing beats winning the world cup. Ask Messi. In fact that 7-1 demolition of Brazil has significance because Germany eventually won the world cup.

Yes the German, Dutch and Brazilian sides you mentioned have become the stuff of great football memories.

But let's start with the players who played in these teams. You think they'd take memories over being called world champions?

The Brazilian team has 5 stars on its jerseys. Germany 4. Italy 4. That is history, that is memory pinned on the very jerseys of these teams.

Nothing beats winning the world cup. Nothing!

jihday:
I don’t even want Amunike for the eagles because I think there’s nothing special about him but I’ll take him over Siasia.

Mujtahida:

You have no tactical understanding. Go and coach let's see what comes out of your understanding. I simply have no breathe for your theoretical postulations particularly given the utmost certitude with which you speak on matters you have no single, as in single practical knowledge about.


On this thread I know we have working people. We all know the difference between the things we were taught in school and the practical hands on experience.

Mujtahida:

You have no tactical understanding. Quit your delusion. Go and coach let's see what comes out of your understanding. I simply have no breathe for your theoretical postulations particularly given the utmost certitude with which you speak on matters you have no single, as in single practical knowledge about.


On this thread I know we have working people. In our various fields, we all know the difference between the things we were taught in school and the practical hands on experience.

I love all styles of football except that corruption called tiki taka.

TheSuperNerd:
Colin Udoh is as biased as they come. Was it not him also subtly pushing for his wife, Mercy Akide to be Coach of the Super Falcons at some Point, few years ago. Abegiii

Just look at his rubbish suggestion. Wait till September... for bloody what?? We are in June and he wants us to wait for 3months to appoint a coach. What arrant nonsense coming from a veteran Journalist.

See let me tell you something about these journos. They are masters of lies, twists, pretence and damage limitation.

Even the Finidi comment on Osimhen reported by Colin and Oganla media was damage limitation. They support Finidi so would use their "media credibility" to say "this is how it went" even when it is untrue.

Look at Colin recommending Salisu Yusuf. Is that a Journo to be taken seriously?

Even Solace Chukwu is a joker. I have long figured out that one. Just blurting out grammar with little substance.

These Journos are not clean. They are not neutral. They take sides.

TheGoodJoe:


The bolded explains my point. No too much arguing.

TheGoodJoe:


You have made no point at all. It is just a case of bias. Just accept you have a bias against Amunike. Finito.

Mujtahida:

I knew you'd grasp that but it doesn't explain nada so long as you diminished Italy winning the world cup and elevated the German 7-1 demolition of Germany over a world cup winning experience.

If it explains your point perhaps I expressed your thoughts better than you did since I did not place great footballing memories over winning the world cup.

TheGoodJoe:


I don't need to coach. I have asked you some basic explanation and you came out numb repeatedly until I understood you don't know what you are even arguing.

Kog45:
Yes Finidi failed woefully but would Boniface be granting interviews with dick and harry in camp,can he do that with foreign coach.

Initially I hate anything below average foreign coach but now I don’t mind cuz indiscipline of these generation players damn too obvious,for Osimhen to come out and started cursing on IG then Wahala dey o.

Mujtahida:

Your questions do not deserve answers other than to draw me into needless arguments. What is in tactical football understanding that you think is so arcane that I wouldn't know it after watching football for over 30 years? Na quantum physics?

Hahaha hahaha hahaha Kai, the delusion in your mind is strong and incurable

TheGoodJoe:


Long story.

My point is simple, with all the multiple wins, it is the beautiful playing sides that get remembered. The rest are instantaneous celebrations and historical records. No one hardly re-lives that experience unlike the beautiful playing sides.

Finito.

Amedino99:
it is an insult.

jihday:
I just said I’ll take him over Siasia which bias again?

Mujtahida:

Claptrap. Go and ask the players. Not your theories of which you have an endless supply.

TheGoodJoe:


Explain why you think Tiki Taka is corruption. 😂

TheGoodJoe:


I don’t even want Amunike for the eagles because I think there’s nothing special about him

This is where the bias comes from.

TheGoodJoe:


You already agreed. So why are you still whining and whining and whining?

TheGoodJoe:


You can disagree with Collin Udoh's point but I don't support insulting him. Collin Udoh is not today's man.