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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by germaphobe(m): 2:58pm On Jun 19
And while you guys are discussing England's set up, just know that Kai baby is getting two goal today. Golden boot contender cool cool cool cool
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 3:21pm On Jun 19
Spy360:

What ever system or balance you will suggest must include those two as well as other key players if not the team's strength will be diminished.

By the way which wingers? Only winger I see is Saka and he can play with Kane as a front two

................... Kane...... Saka..................
..................... Bellingham.....................
Foden........................................... TAA
........................... Rice............................
When you have a close to star-studded team in which every players are on top of their game, what you as a coach should consider first is balance.

Lionel Scaloni couldn't take Dybala to Copa America. Sometimes, we have seen Dybala and Lautaro Martinez sitting in the bench. Why? There must be balance.

The formation you proposed here can't work please. Saka is a winger, a proper winger at that.. not a wide forward.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 3:22pm On Jun 19
germaphobe:
And while you guys are discussing England's set up, just know that Kai baby is getting two goal today. Golden boot contender cool cool cool cool
That guy thrives on confidence and I really hope to see him get that golden boot. He even said it during his interview.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 3:24pm On Jun 19
germaphobe:
grin grin it's funny to me and I don't know why
grin grin grin
Sambi is sure going now.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 4:57pm On Jun 19
mostob:
When you have a close to star-studded team in which every players are on top of their game, what you as a coach should consider first is balance.

Lionel Scaloni couldn't take Dybala to Copa America. Sometimes, we have seen Dybala and Lautaro Martinez sitting in the bench. Why? There must be balance.

The formation you proposed here can't work please. Saka is a winger, a proper winger at that.. not a wide forward.
First of all Saka is not a proper winger. At bestbhebis inverted. An inverted winger is a forward. A proper winger is like a midfielder.

That said, I am not against balance. I am simply saying that whatever you do you must accommodate your best players. National team football is not club football where you get all you want. In national team it's what's available so you try to maximise it. That's what makes you a national team coach.

Let me use Scotland as an example. They have two class left backs. In Tierney and Robinson. They have to play both of them. That's why they play a bac three so Tierney plays as a half CB.

Another example is Croatia that just finished playing. They have to clash AM in Kovacic and Modric. They played both of them.

If your best players are two strikers, play a 4-4-2 or 3-5-2. When Mexico had Forlan and Suarez they played both. The only way you can avoid this is if both are GKs.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by germaphobe(m): 7:35pm On Jun 19
Spy360:

First of all Saka is not a proper winger. At bestbhebis inverted. An inverted winger is a forward. A proper winger is like a midfielder.

That said, I am not against balance. I am simply saying that whatever you do you must accommodate your best players. National team football is not club football where you get all you want. In national team it's what's available so you try to maximise it. That's what makes you a national team coach.

Let me use Scotland as an example. They have two class left backs. In Tierney and Robinson. They have to play both of them. That's why they play a bac three so Tierney plays as a half CB.

Another example is Croatia that just finished playing. They have to clash AM in Kovacic and Modric. They played both of them.

If your best players are two strikers, play a 4-4-2 or 3-5-2. When Mexico had Forlan and Suarez they played both. The only way you can avoid this is if both are GKs.
Uruguay you mean?.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 7:56pm On Jun 19
germaphobe:

Uruguay you mean?.
Oh thanks for the correction.

Let me add Germany in this Euro.

They have Kroos, Gundogan, Musiala, Wirtz, Havertz and they played all of them. Formation 4-2-3-1 no wingers in their starting eleven. Not that they don't have but they play all their best players.

Mostob

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:07pm On Jun 19
mostob:
The audacity ehn. Like Dem no force you sign the agreement o. Now that they charged you for magomago, you turn around say the rules na rubbish. When you dey win treble, dey sign players up and down, the rules no be rubbish o.

grin grin grin
Lol.
Dem no serious cheesy cheesy

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:23pm On Jun 19
Spy360:

First of all Saka is not a proper winger. At bestbhebis inverted. An inverted winger is a forward. A proper winger is like a midfielder.

That said, I am not against balance. I am simply saying that whatever you do you must accommodate your best players. National team football is not club football where you get all you want. In national team it's what's available so you try to maximise it. That's what makes you a national team coach.

Let me use Scotland as an example. They have two class left backs. In Tierney and Robinson. They have to play both of them. That's why they play a bac three so Tierney plays as a half CB.

Another example is Croatia that just finished playing. They have to clash AM in Kovacic and Modric. They played both of them.

If your best players are two strikers, play a 4-4-2 or 3-5-2. When Mexico had Forlan and Suarez they played both. The only way you can avoid this is if both are GKs.

This is exactly my point when people are omitting Foden.

How will it be that an Epl best player can't break into England squad?
Like not only a Man City starter but current Epl best and league winner. Such player is considered a squad player because of balance? I've never heard of such sha and I doubt the Fa will take it lightly if Southgate does such.
It's not easy at all for a coach to bench him, no matter the reason he wants to give. Bellingham winning La liga best player even compounds matter.


Southgate should just play him and Bellingham in midfield. Forcing him out on the wings (not even his favorable wing sef) will not do both England and Foden any favor
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:26pm On Jun 19
mostob:
That guy thrives on confidence and I really hope to see him get that golden boot. He even said it during his interview.
Lol... Make havertz win him golden boot make England win Euros.

Everyone goes home happy grin grin grin

Cc: Germaphobe

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 8:44pm On Jun 19
Spy360:

First of all Saka is not a proper winger. At bestbhebis inverted. An inverted winger is a forward. A proper winger is like a midfielder.

That said, I am not against balance. I am simply saying that whatever you do you must accommodate your best players. National team football is not club football where you get all you want. In national team it's what's available so you try to maximise it. That's what makes you a national team coach.

Let me use Scotland as an example. They have two class left backs. In Tierney and Robinson. They have to play both of them. That's why they play a bac three so Tierney plays as a half CB.

Another example is Croatia that just finished playing. They have to clash AM in Kovacic and Modric. They played both of them.

If your best players are two strikers, play a 4-4-2 or 3-5-2. When Mexico had Forlan and Suarez they played both. The only way you can avoid this is if both are GKs.
Let me divide everything for you and move.

1. Your bolded is contradictory. Balance has nothing to do with best players. You can try to fit all your best players in the same lineup and an inferior team will beat your team mercilessly.

2. Saka and Salad are inverted wingers by your definition but both are different type of player. Arteta may play him as a wide forward in future but for now, he is a winger. The only wing forward I our team in Martinelli that's why we wanted Arteta to play him as a striker sometimes back.

3. All your examples didn't follow. The teams you mentioned were able to find balance and at the same time fit in their best players in the team. Can you say the same about England?

4. Kovacic is not an AM!!!!!
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 8:46pm On Jun 19
Jodera:
Lol... Make havertz win him golden boot make England win Euros.
Everyone goes home happy grin grin grin
Cc: Germaphobe
You dey serious with this England campaign o. grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 8:50pm On Jun 19
Jodera:


This is exactly my point when people are omitting Foden.

How will it be that an Epl best player can't break into England squad?
Like not only a Man City starter but current Epl best and league winner. Such player is considered a squad player because of balance? I've never heard of such sha and I doubt the Fa will take it lightly if Southgate does such.
It's not easy at all for a coach to bench him, no matter the reason he wants to give. Bellingham winning La liga best player even compounds matter.


Southgate should just play him and Bellingham in midfield. Forcing him out on the wings (not even his favorable wing sef) will not do both England and Foden any favor
Well, England should just forget about winning anything then.
A midfield of Rice, Jude and Foden will be so disjointed and Rice will be overworked. You have Jude who likes bombing into the box and then Foden who is attackminded. The midfield go be like expressway. grin grin grin

My point is not about benching one player or not. If Southgate finds a balance that accomodates everybody, good for him. However, going by name or club form instead of balance when picking a team will be disastrous.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by germaphobe(m): 9:25pm On Jun 19
Jodera:

Lol... Make havertz win him golden boot make England win Euros.

Everyone goes home happy grin grin grin

Cc: Germaphobe
grin grin cheesy cheesy I see what you did there cheesy wink

Germany for the Euro and Harry Kane for the golden boot tongue cool
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by germaphobe(m): 9:26pm On Jun 19
mostob:
You dey serious with this England campaign o. grin grin
I tire!!!.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 11:46pm On Jun 19
mostob:
You dey serious with this England campaign o. grin grin
I don tell you say I dey follow Dem the way I dey follow arsenal and Nigeria.

Nothing concern me concern any other team for this Euros if no be England grin grin

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 11:58pm On Jun 19
mostob:
Well, England should just forget about winning anything then.
A midfield of Rice, Jude and Foden will be so disjointed and Rice will be overworked. You have Jude who likes bombing into the box and then Foden who is attackminded. The midfield go be like expressway. grin grin grin

My point is not about benching one player or not. If Southgate finds a balance that accomodates everybody, good for him. However, going by name or club form instead of balance when picking a team will be disastrous.

Lol... You're right but I'm just looking at it from Southgate point of view.

The only reason why Foden is starting presently is because he won epl best player in England while starring at the best club in England. So It's never happening for him to be benched. It's like saying Spain coach should bench la liga best player in Spain NT when the said player plays for either Barca or Madrid. Or a German coach should bench Bundesliga player of the season when said player plays for Bayern.
What does that say about the league if that happens?
How do you convince people to see how good your league is if your best player can't even start in his own league's country? grin

Remember Foden himself wasn't a guaranteed starter in England (from last Euros to last Wc). It's reason why I said earlier that Southgate hands are hooked in terms of this Foden and Bellingham matter

Well, there's a reason Southgate is being paid. This is one of the challenges that comes with it. He's the coach hence he should look for a way to balance them.

And as I dey here so, I no care how him wan take balance dem Foden and Bellingham. I just need that Euros cup to come back to England cheesy
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 12:01am On Jun 20
germaphobe:

grin grin cheesy cheesy I see what you did there cheesy wink

Germany for the Euro and Harry Kane for the golden boot tongue cool
Too late. Kolewerk!!

The God wey do am for Messi wey I support for Copa and Wc will do it for Kane and Saka.

Havertz (just like Mbappe) — Highest goalscorer

Kane (just like Messi) — the trophy

Everyone (including you) goes home happy cheesy cheesy grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by johnjunior39(m): 6:38am On Jun 20
Jodera:
Too late. Kolewerk!!

The God wey do am for Messi wey I support for Copa and Wc will do it for Kane and Saka.

Havertz (just like Mbappe) — Highest goalscorer

Kane (just like Messi) — the trophy

Everyone (including you) goes home happy cheesy cheesy grin


Me that is even seeing a Germany vs either Portugal or spain final
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by germaphobe(m): 8:42am On Jun 20
Jodera:
Too late. Kolewerk!!

The God wey do am for Messi wey I support for Copa and Wc will do it for Kane and Saka.

Havertz (just like Mbappe) — Highest goalscorer

Kane (just like Messi) — the trophy

Everyone (including you) goes home happy cheesy cheesy grin
grin grin including who?. Germany goes home with the trophy
Musiala golden ball
Infact I don change golden boot, no be Kane again na mbappe tongue
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 10:05am On Jun 20
johnjunior39:



Me that is even seeing a Germany vs either Portugal or spain final
Lol...
This one you're seeing is Euros 2028 grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 10:06am On Jun 20
germaphobe:

grin grin including who?. Germany goes home with the trophy
Musiala golden ball
Infact I don change golden boot, no be Kane again na mbappe tongue
Lol...
No worries, we shall see cheesy grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by fredoooooo: 10:31am On Jun 20
We go again , This time without pressure..All cups in the bag ...GOAT Status confirmed... Baba ibe
We still want more enemies like the world Cup final.. E ni duro
OLUWAMESSI AKANMUADE ... OBA BALL

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 11:13am On Jun 20
Tear knee is out of the market as the werey was stretched off yesterday
He couldn't even stay fit to get the fvck out
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 11:20am On Jun 20
Jodera:


Lol... You're right but I'm just looking at it from Southgate point of view.

The only reason why Foden is starting presently is because he won epl best player in England while starring at the best club in England. So It's never happening for him to be benched. It's like saying Spain coach should bench la liga best player in Spain NT when the said player plays for either Barca or Madrid. Or a German coach should bench Bundesliga player of the season when said player plays for Bayern.
What does that say about the league if that happens?
How do you convince people to see how good your league is if your best player can't even start in his own league's country? grin

Remember Foden himself wasn't a guaranteed starter in England (from last Euros to last Wc). It's reason why I said earlier that Southgate hands are hooked in terms of this Foden and Bellingham matter

Well, there's a reason Southgate is being paid. This is one of the challenges that comes with it. He's the coach hence he should look for a way to balance them.

And as I dey here so, I no care how him wan take balance dem Foden and Bellingham. I just need that Euros cup to come back to England cheesy
That's why Southgate still has his job sha.
Imagine the number of stars Julian left out of Germany's squad. If Southgate try am, he will collect sack the next day. grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 11:21am On Jun 20
johnjunior39:



Me that is even seeing a Germany vs either Portugal or spain final
The only way Portugal will get to the funal is if they bench ororo. Right now, they look disjointed.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 11:27am On Jun 20
iamoyindamola:
Tear knee is out of the market as the werey was stretched off yesterday
He couldn't even stay fit to get the fvck out

That guy can get injured doing nothing grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 11:30am On Jun 20
BlueRayDick:


That guy can get injured doing nothing grin
He can even choke in his own drink
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 12:32pm On Jun 20
iamoyindamola:

He can even choke in his own drink

I don tire for the guy; he should just retire to go run a hospital in his home town. grin

How far, do u have any series either old or new that makes sense?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 12:36pm On Jun 20
mostob:
That's why Southgate still has his job sha.
Imagine the number of stars Julian left out of Germany's squad. If Southgate try am, he will collect sack the next day. grin
I think he even tried benching some stars.

Dem Rashford, Sterling, Grealish and Madison for done see shirt if na Southgate of before grin cheesy.

Na wetin give me small hope for England be that cheesy

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 1:56pm On Jun 20
BlueRayDick:


I don tire for the guy; he should just retire to go run a hospital in his home town. grin

How far, do u have any series either old or new that makes sense?
Berlin station
Spy/CIA stuff
I think I have given you one of the season but this is all 3 seasons
https://driveseed.org/file/KBPtCY2FRP
https://driveseed.org/file/bzfRqa3XFL
https://driveseed.org/file/e23wOy9K2D
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 1:59pm On Jun 20
iamoyindamola:

Berlin station
Spy/CIA stuff
I think I have given you one of the season but this is all 3 seasons
https://driveseed.org/file/KBPtCY2FRP
https://driveseed.org/file/bzfRqa3XFL
https://driveseed.org/file/e23wOy9K2D


I think I've watched all 3 seasons before; I think u shared the link sef.

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