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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 6:16pm On Jun 19
eph12:
Culture, rules, regulations etc, ETH had the power to do something about them. He fought off Ronaldo and the club took his side. He was not some helpless rookie coach with no power and just a figurehead

If ETH was well respected and all, the Ronaldo ish would never have gotten public. Also Sancho no go get mind dey post nonsense for social media. How many players have done that shiit, even in this modern age?

That all that ish became a prolonged media drama means he doesn’t have as much authority as he should. Cancelo took his disagreement over not starting personal and challenged Pep in the wrong manner. He was shipped out of the club in weeks.

Real Madrid has more stars than Utd but you’ll never see their players brazenly speak against their coach in public WHILE still at the club.

Nah. Let’s not tolerate rubbish from over pampered over pompous players.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 7:59pm On Jun 19
Trevor012:

Erik ten hagg is cooking. We don't know what yet but something is definitely on the stove. Have faith grin
The faith wey I have be say make una no progress grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:55pm On Jun 19
TheLequte:


I don’t know if the arrogant idiot will come good. We should never have given him that power in the first place. But because of the mess we’ve put ourselves in over the years and how he was the best candidate at the time we hired him, i can understand why we would succumb to his demands.

Now that foul yanshe has been exposed, the best way forward is to reduce his powers. He’ll have some say in who comes in but he won’t be in charge.

ETH is a terrible recruiter and talent identifier. There no doubt about that. However that’s not what we hired him for. There’s a good coach in there, based on his previous jobs. It would be a shame to sack a Physics teacher because he was terrible at teaching business studies.
We will find out soon.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 9:45pm On Jun 19
One thing about Scott Mac sauce

He doesn't give lazy performanced
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingTom(m): 11:40pm On Jun 19
Ellexy:


Stop this grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 9:49am On Jun 20
Why is Sir Jim cooking the Glazers this bad? Fight for happen o

With all the accountants they have they still overpay for mediocre players. Maybe like Tinubu, they are just guzzling the money.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 10:41am On Jun 20
Jodera:

The faith wey I have be say make una no progress grin grin grin
I told you the only thing you'll raise by the end of the season are your empty hands sad
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 10:49am On Jun 20
ChristineC:
I told you the only thing you'll raise by the end of the season are your empty hands sad
Time differs

I raised something at the beginning of the season
Liverpool raised something in the middle of the season
You raised something at the end of the season

Las Las, all of us raised something


So I take it that this post was meant for Chelsea fans tongue tongue tongue

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 1:20pm On Jun 20
TheLequte:


It’s not hard to identify a good player. If you know what qualities are important in what parts of the field, you’ll easily know who’s good and who’s not.

Also, it doesn’t matter how big or small a club is, a coach should not be allowed to be in full control of transfer decisions, especially in this age. It must be a joint effort. Look at Arsenal, City and other topr clubs. Things don change.

It’s not hard, but ETH struggled with his transfers. Eph has pointed out what will happen if they buy players for him, you will still come back to blame the board.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 1:23pm On Jun 20
TheLequte:


I don’t have experience operating a football club so i can’t say I’m the best candidate to turn things around.

But if i were to correct the anomaly, I’d start with changing the environment first.

Culture. Rules. Regulations. Process. Procedures. Everything concerning both players and coach should be well defined and unambiguous.

Then I’ll ensure the players and coaches have the best equipment and operating schedules. How do they prepare for games, what can be done to improve it? To world standards. How is the coach approaching team harmony, tactics, and what not? What can be done to improve it? Do we need to get rid of some players who don’t fit in?

Once that is defined, you can move on to recruitment and what kinds of players you want to bring in.

That’s just a brief of how I’d approach it. It’s easier to hold people accountable for their jobs when they are given the best conditions to work in.

Is not the coach in charge of more than half of the things you mentioned? Culture, rules and regulations for the players. The manager defines those because he works with these players daily, therefore he should ideally handle those. I get the part where as a corporate, you would require those to be defined by the board, mainly for other employees and not the players.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 1:24pm On Jun 20
eph12:
Culture, rules, regulations etc, ETH had the power to do something about them. He fought off Ronaldo and the club took his side. He was not some helpless rookie coach with no power and just a figurehead

Thank you!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 3:19pm On Jun 20
nitrogen:


Is not the coach in charge of more than half of the things you mentioned? Culture, rules and regulations for the players. The manager defines those because he works with these players daily, therefore he should ideally handle those. I get the part where as a corporate, you would require those to be defined by the board, mainly for other employees and not the players.

Who do you think enforces the culture, rules (and all the other things you pertaining to the team you believe the coach is responsible for ) ?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 3:22pm On Jun 20
nitrogen:


It’s not hard, but ETH struggled with his transfers. Eph has pointed out what will happen if they buy players for him, you will still come back to blame the board.

Let me ask you a question.

Do you think United has a good first team recruitment department? I’m not talking about the buys for the last two years under ETH. How was United’s transfer market been since SAF left?

Your honest opinion.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 3:57pm On Jun 20
TheLequte:


If ETH was well respected and all, the Ronaldo ish would never have gotten public. Also Sancho no go get mind dey post nonsense for social media. How many players have done that shiit, even in this modern age?

That all that ish became a prolonged media drama means he doesn’t have as much authority as he should. Cancelo took his disagreement over not starting personal and challenged Pep in the wrong manner. He was shipped out of the club in weeks.

Real Madrid has more stars than Utd but you’ll never see their players brazenly speak against their coach in public WHILE still at the club.

Nah. Let’s not tolerate rubbish from over pampered over pompous players.
The point is that ETH could have stamped on anybody and heaven won't fall He should have done what he needed to do to restore discipline if he felt the club was lacking discipline
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 3:58pm On Jun 20
eph12:

The point is that ETH could have stamped on anybody and heaven won't fall He should have done what he needed to do to restore discipline if he felt the club was lacking discipline


So why did heaven fall when Ronaldo started acting childishly?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:42pm On Jun 20
TheLequte:


So why did heaven fall when Ronaldo started acting childishly?
He lost his job or his job was threatened? Who left for who? Please what happened to ETH when "Ronaldo started acting childishly"?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 5:03pm On Jun 20
eph12:

He lost his job or his job was threatened? Who left for who? Please what happened to ETH when "Ronaldo started acting childishly"?

The point is that shiit shouldn’t have happened at all.

If players are afraid to do that rubbish during Fergie’s time, why should they be bold about doing it now?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ijustwantto: 5:31pm On Jun 20
Penaldo fans una remember dis pictures? Let me remind you that if Leo messi wins this copa, he will now have two more trophies than your idol. The payback time has just begin😎🤗😹😹😹😹

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CrystalTiger(m): 5:37pm On Jun 20
Gareth Southgate is beyond horrible 😕
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:16pm On Jun 20
TheLequte:


The point is that shiit shouldn’t have happened at all.

If players are afraid to do that rubbish during Fergie’s time, why should they be bold about doing it now?
During Fergie time, there were some incidents too, we just didn't have social media as we have noq. Maybe ETH should have just stoned Ronaldo boot like Fergie did
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 6:30pm On Jun 20
eph12:

During Fergie time, there were some incidents too, we just didn't have social media as we have noq. Maybe ETH should have just stoned Ronaldo boot like Fergie did

Jaap Stam and Roy Keane had issues with SAF and they were shipped off almost immediately. Rio Ferdy said there was a time he complained about SAF’s tactics and he got an earful later on.

If you don’t stay in line, SAF would get rid of you. And he had the club’s backing (David Gill) to do so.

No manager had that kind of authority after he left. Mourinho o. Ole and ETH. That’s why Pogba, Sancho and Martial could do anyhow. The rottenness was allowed. If a player perceives the board doesn’t trust and respect the coach, anyhowness will happen.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CrystalTiger(m): 6:41pm On Jun 20
Thought it'd be the board signing players ffs 😞😔..

Have we been scammed?

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:43pm On Jun 20
TheLequte:


Jaap Stam and Roy Keane had issues with SAF and they were shipped off almost immediately. Rio Ferdy said there was a time he complained about SAF’s tactics and he got an earful later on.

If you don’t stay in line, SAF would get rid of you. And he had the club’s backing (David Gill) to do so.

No manager had that kind of authority after he left. Mourinho o. Ole and ETH. That’s why Pogba, Sancho and Martial could do anyhow. The rottenness was allowed. If a player perceives the board doesn’t trust and respect the coach, anyhowness will happen.

How is this different from what happened under ETH? Were the players not shipped away? Sancho is currently hawked around Europe for a buyer. Which heaven has fallen under ETH when he got rid of Ronaldo and Sancho?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 6:45pm On Jun 20
eph12:

How is this different from what happened under ETH? Were the players not shipped away? Sancho is currently hawked around Europe for a buyer. Which heaven has fallen under ETH when he got rid of Ronaldo and Sancho?

You’re right. There’s no difference.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:27pm On Jun 20
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adebayo201: 7:36pm On Jun 20
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by kingofcasting(m): 7:48pm On Jun 20
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:08pm On Jun 20
Next thing we will hear now is that the club did not back ETH, whereas its just one eph in mushin that does not want to listen to any nonsense excuse. When his cup is full, we will start hearing all sort of things

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 9:57pm On Jun 20
I no kuku get strength or time for prolonged unnecessary shalaye .

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingTom(m): 10:00pm On Jun 20
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by kingofcasting(m): 10:56pm On Jun 20
TheLequte:
I no kuku get strength or time for prolonged unnecessary shalaye .
The guy don already dey wait for ETH to fumble grin grin grin

E say when his cup is full grin grin grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 10:46am On Jun 21
eph12:

How is this different from what happened under ETH? Were the players not shipped away? Sancho is currently hawked around Europe for a buyer. Which heaven has fallen under ETH when he got rid of Ronaldo and Sancho?


Don’t mind Leyqute. He knows ETH has the power and can do whatever he likes (including instilling team discipline). I guess he did it to the great Ronaldo, without the club’s backing, reason Ronaldo is still here infecting the other players with Pogba’s virus.

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