Zxcvbnmghtr:


Even your assertion is only an ASSUMPTION.

That was a Christian Crusade in the 60s, the coup was a BRUTAL CHRISTIAN CRUSADE and there have been a lot of such crusade in Nigeria with aims of killing Muslims and destroying Islam. Even the Gideon Okar Coup is about fighting Muslims.

So, how many have been lynched in the name of branding people as 'WITCHES' by Christians?!

I chose to start from there.

It is your brothers that are shouting from the river to the sea. Your leader wanted to deep quran in the sea.

Zonefree:

Your defense line is weak. Come harder, please.

They are always so deliberately dull in reasoning.

heykims:
Nigerians and hypocrisy, it's becoming apparent on this thread again.
In a sane society, that Pastor should be answering questions in court by now and the randy soldier son dismissed.

Deborah Samuel killer is known and walking free.

heykims:
Nigerians and hypocrisy, it's becoming apparent on this thread again.
In a sane society, that Pastor should be answering questions in court by now and the randy soldier son dismissed.

Beautiful.

ovie8200:
Well, he and his wifes got what they deserve. He was warned several times but didn't listened. If were a Christian warned alot time ago, am sure he won't dear to do it in a Muslim dominated área because the repercusión would be his death. He is lucky that Christian don't kill. They only show him a lesson that Christian can match Muslim violence for violence but Christian chose to stay low.

Warned on what basis? That he shouldn't kill his Ram on his land? Don't worry, karma will get to that useless pastor. If he's truly disturbing the environment with his speaker, now more focus will be on him. In fact, government agency will focus on him now.

blackboy:
If we continue to put religion in this matter justice will not be served. Ata turk made Turkey a secular country and they made great progress as a country though many are Muslims. This matter needs to be investigated properly and with facts. Any video from any of the wives or the husband of the soldiers ? Where is the proof? Those pix? If there is no mosque in that area that does not have a speaker on the roof or compound that sounds around 5am and several other times during the day why complain about the church speakers disturbing him. First to report or complain don't mean they are telling the truth.
Nigerians should stop using religion to cause violence or for sentiment.
Corruption is not Nigeria's biggest problem but injustice . Ethnicity and religious bigotry follow closely after.

See how you are stylishly justifying evil just because it was perpetrated by a Christian

Zxcvbnmghtr:


Even your assertion is only an ASSUMPTION.

That was a Christian Crusade in the 60s, the coup was a BRUTAL CHRISTIAN CRUSADE and there have been a lot of such crusade in Nigeria with aims of killing Muslims and destroying Islam. Even the Gideon Okar Coup is about fighting Muslims.

So, how many have been lynched in the name of branding people as 'WITCHES' by Christians?!

I chose to start from there.

you spew soo much trash, none of the coup you mentioned had anything to do with religion .I don't know why you guys soo much like attracting sympathy to yourselves for crimes you consciously commit against innocent persons that eventually backfire.....that is why i still israel are right for not holding back their revenge despite public outcry.

Deborah, the redeemed church female preacher and too many cases of killings of innocent persons in the North for blasphemy has happened but you are not going to base your defense on that instead you want to use army coups that happened even b4 you were born....

You see these ediots in khaki uniforms, i will always rejoice whenever they got roasted in the East because their heart is evil especially those recruits among them. I hate loudspeakers, i can't withstand it.

One sided story

Angelfrost:


It would make sense if you read more objectively.

Religious tolerance would be easier to Foster in a nation of like minds.

It will always be a lot harder in the midst of multi ethnicity in a large population.

As it stands today, Nigerians can't even agree on the best fit for Presidency... We have never had anything close to a meaningful concord since Jonathan's election.

Would that be the case if the it were Southern or Northern Nigeria?!!

Would a smaller South-western Nigeria be unable to Foster religious concord among its citizenry?!!

you are the one not thinking objectively, you insinuated that you can't share a country with muslims so I am asking you if you divide the country base on religion, would you then ban people from converting to other religions, what then is now the difference between you and the northerners that you are hating on

Some Christians and Muslims can be so inconsiderate and intolerant. Noise pollution is an offence. If the ram wasn't being killed in front of his house, I don't see why Pastor is upset. This is a secular society. Live and let live.

If it is Muslim that attacked a Christian, many on this forum will be giving Muslims different names.

Now, a pastor, his son and his soldier colleagues did this brutality to Muslim family on Islamic festival day, most of them hypocritically silent while some making unjust statement.

I'll advise the man to sue them to court or to write petition to defense Head quarters. He should choose his fight wisely within the ambit of law.

Zxcvbnmghtr:



Let me elaborate your sentimental incitement a little further from a broader perspective.

If Nnamdi Azikiwe was the prime minister in the 60s and some Fulani Soliders who are all off course Muslims teamed up to murder him and every other person that is not Fulani holding political office in cold blood won't you term it as Jihad and unjustified?

Those who murdered Balewa, Sardauna.........were Christian soldiers mainly from a particular region.
Lol.....

I can go on and on. So keep your sentimental thoughts to yourself and don't allow me to expose you people.

In your perspective did the Christians launch a counter coup killing thousands of Muslim men, women and children majority of whom did not participate in the killing and some even stopped the coup?

Zxcvbnmghtr:



Let me elaborate your sentimental incitement a little further from a broader perspective.

If Nnamdi Azikiwe was the prime minister in the 60s and some Fulani Soliders who are all off course Muslims teamed up to murder him and every other person that is not Fulani holding political office in cold blood won't you term it as Jihad and unjustified?

Those who murdered Balewa, Sardauna.........were Christian soldiers mainly from a particular region.
Lol.....

I can go on and on. So keep your sentimental thoughts to yourself and don't allow me to expose you people.

But wasn't there a reprisal on July 15th 1966. Where the Christian soldiers were massacred?

Zxcvbnmghtr:


Even your assertion is only an ASSUMPTION.

That was a Christian Crusade in the 60s, the coup was a BRUTAL CHRISTIAN CRUSADE and there have been a lot of such crusade in Nigeria with aims of killing Muslims and destroying Islam. Even the Gideon Okar Coup is about fighting Muslims.

So, how many have been lynched in the name of branding people as 'WITCHES' by Christians?!

I chose to start from there.

Abegi. Make the two of una get out. You are both regious bigots who obviously need help.
The coup had nothing to do with religion because it’s obviously tribal.
It’s called Igbo coup for a reason. Let’s not deceive ourselves, you northern Muslims and Christian igbos are the major problems we are facing in this country. You both deserve each another. Both of you are backward, primitive and intolerant. Why must you kill for your god?

BafanaBafana:

Is Jesus not God? Did the bible not record thousands of people killed by God?

Jesus is not God. He is the son of God. Don't get it mixed up

Shimran:


Deborah was killed because she think she can hurt other people by going Scott free in the name of freedom of expression. Few weeks back, in America, the so called mother of democracy, a man was arrested for expressing his mind against the POTUS. What a doubled standards

What was the crime of these couples against those attackers?

Do you even bother to know what muslims killed Deborah for? Your answer is no.

But here is it:

People that set her for the kill was her course mates on the departmental Whatsapp platform for telling them to stop posting religious matters on the platform. The purpose of the platform was for academic activities and not religious matters.

Afterwards, your fellow barbaric killers alleged her for blasphemy, and that was it. A wrong accusation killed her. Her blood is on all of you murderers apologist, the dotard government, and the police who failed to account for justices in her death.

The pathetic news here, is you are also a killer, a murderer, a terrorist, and a wicked sympatherziser for your gross submission of her death.

Tell him to contact me, make I give him Juju to wipe the whole generation of the fake Pastor and the bastard soldier son off the earth.

Tell him to contact me, make I give him Juju to wipe the who generation off the earth.

Zxcvbnmghtr:


Even your assertion is only an ASSUMPTION.

That was a Christian Crusade in the 60s, the coup was a BRUTAL CHRISTIAN CRUSADE and there have been a lot of such crusade in Nigeria with aims of killing Muslims and destroying Islam. Even the Gideon Okar Coup is about fighting Muslims.

So, how many have been lynched in the name of branding people as 'WITCHES' by Christians?!

I chose to start from there.

Go and get your facts right, the Crusaders you wrote about was formulated to stop the killings perpetrated by Muslims all over then.

Namaster:
A galore of USELESSNESS!

First, there is the Devil calling himself a pastor who disturbs the WHOLE neighbourhood with loudspeakers.

You will not understand the FRUSTRATION of the neighbour if you've not had speakers BLARING into your room at 1 AM on a Wednesday morning because of vigil.

The screaming and stomping of the members would make you think thoughts that'll make you question whether you are really the devil.

How Christianity went from Jesus condemning Pharisees who pray in public to IRRITATING loudspeakers is still a mystery.

THEN, there is the USELESS new recruit flexing his NONEXISTENT muscles on civilians. If the recruits come face to face with bandits and terrorists now, they'd devolve into COWARDS and CRYBABIES.

But that's the ONLY thing the Nigerian Military can ever get right—intimidating and assaulting UNARMED civilians. When it comes to real THREATS, they are useless.

In fact Nigerian soldiers are so USELESS, it took TEN of them to assault just ONE DEFENCELESS man and TWO women.

YET the man and his wife are still standing GIDIGBA!

Very WEAK pussies.

who really disturbs neighbourhood more with loud speaker Christians or Muslims please be really sincere.

Zxcvbnmghtr:




Edris Abdulkarim's song titled "NIGERIA JAGA-JAGA" was released when Obasanjo was the President of Nigeria. What does that tell you?! Mind you, Obasanjo belonged to the PDP. There is nothing new under the sun.

Am talking about the same Obasanjo some people say HE IS THE BEST PRESIDENT.

I don't want to go as far back to Fela's songs. So no be today.

IF YOU ARE POOR, YOU ARE POOR.

Seek a legitimate solution to your poverty. That's the only advice I can give you.

Lol …Obasanjo is your business not mine whether a failure or not concern you not me because it’s normal to celebrate failure ls where you come from…frustration of poverty is written all over your posts, nobody needs a soothsayer to know that.. . If you want to make it about financial size let’s open a thread and invite a moderator to see how much you are willing to give to the poor. In my instance I will give to people that can’t pay hospital bills and widows from any tribe in Nigeria while you pick yours let everybody on nairaland see not by hiding behind anonymity of nairaland the spam nairaland with your pain and bitterness of poverty

[ode do you know that whole town is Muslim dominited area iseyinquote author=ovie8200 post=130605375]Well, he and his wifes got what they deserve. He was warned several times but didn't listened. If were a Christian warned alot time ago, am sure he won't dear to do it in a Muslim dominated área because the repercusión would be his death. He is lucky that Christian don't kill. They only show him a lesson that Christian can match Muslim violence for violence but Christian chose to stay low.[/quote]

Lukgaf:


https://www.facebook.com/share/v/tHyee1kuriyvCufL/?mibextid=oFDknk

Ogbeni, you are nothing but a potential terrorist. So, shut the fuckup

Shimran:


Deborah was killed because she think she can hurt other people by going Scott free in the name of freedom of expression. Few weeks back, in America, the so called mother of democracy, a man was arrested for expressing his mind against the POTUS. What a doubled standards

What was the crime of these couples against those attackers?

so you supported the killing of Deborah? you are just a potential terrorist qed.

Fujiyama:


^^^


Your first sentence shows where you truly stand. You support the killing of a woman because she 'hurt other people in the name of freedom of expression'. There was no investigation, no inquiry, no interrogation of suspects, nothing. The mob just straight up killed that woman and that was where it ended. And you are clearly fine with it. In your mind, she got what she deserved.

Your last sentence is essentially asking the system to work - there should be an investigation by the police, witnesses should be called, suspects should be interrogated etc. and in the end, justice should be served. That's how its supposed to work and your comment shows you want it to be so.

If you cannot see the mind blowing contradiction between your clear support for the killers of Deborah Samuels...and your demand for justice in the Iseyin case, then...

Or perhaps...you do know exactly what you are doing. Perhaps you do know there is a glaring contradiction in your position but you can't be bothered because you have a sinister, devious agenda. Which is it?

At least someone whom I can reason with and do understand analogy.


I made a reply to the poster who made a comparison that if it were the Muslim dominated area, those couples would have died by now and then go on to quote Deborah incidence.

At least for the Deborah, there was a case of allegation. What of this couple ? What was their offense?

Guy, between me and my God, the moment I heard this Deborah incident, I as a Muslim I pity for the girl. Our actions make us have this global recognition as terrorists.
First, it was a case of allegation; secondly, if it happened to be true, she must be called to retract, apologize and never to do again; lastly if the second option failed, it's the Muslims authority that will carry out the execution. This is how it should be carried out Islamically.

But later on, those against the killing goes on to defend her by saying "she got freedom to speak as she likes, even if it hurts others" Seriously? After this uproar, I then changed my mind and defended the actions of the mob. Should this not be done, we would have heard hundreds of similar incidents now. Sure, we can't prevent this from happening as long as you are in your dominated areas or online.

The mob carried out the execution. I blame them for their actions. On the other hand I am in support. We would love to see the justice reigns but the system isn't in support. We might kill her wrongly but we prevent the frequency and high tendency of occurrence of such incidents.

If you may ask why do we react barbaric like this:
It's a choice: you can embrace & hug those who insult, call your parents with bad names & say they are just expressing their views and that let your parents take the revenge themselves.

Trace Muslims records back: We respect religion figures. Bring me a case of incidence where Muslims as a group or individual slander the Christianity religion figures.


I live in the core North, christians & Muslims share perimeter fences together. The most important thing is: Respect for one another! Students also happened to find themselves in a mix of the Muslims community. Everyone goes on with their normal life. I got christians friends, whom to now, I dine with them without headaches.

Let's learn to respect one another

ibabz:


so you supported the killing of Deborah? you are just a potential terrorist qed.

Calling Muslims terrorists isn't a news.

I enter Barrack alot, from NA, to the Airforce, and even the Naval base.

There are lot of good officers that one can relate with.

Just know the barrack he is operating from, and relate with a Senior Muslim officer which is very easy, and you'd get Justice.

I doubt the Police would do anything against the pastor.

Zxcvbnmghtr:


Those who murdered Balewa, Sardauna.........were Christian soldiers mainly from a particular region.
Lol.....

I can go on and on. So keep your sentimental thoughts to yourself and don't allow me to expose you people.

What about those who murdered Aguiyi Ironsi?
You are the o e creating incitement here.
It's not to justify what happened in Iseyin as this post is saying but to tell you two wrongs don't make a right. Lukgaf, there's more to this story. Don't just post one side of a report. You are all brewing religious crisis that can set the country on fire. This matter should v gone directly to nearby law enforcement agencies in charge of that town.

Shimran:

Guy, between me and my God, the moment I heard this Deborah incident, I as a Muslim I pity for the girl. Our actions make us have this global recognition as terrorists.
First, it was a case of allegation; secondly, if it happened to be true, she must be called to retract, apologize and never to do again; lastly if the second option failed, it's the Muslims authority that will carry out the execution. This is how it should be carried
out Islamically.

Muslim authorities are meant to sue for peace. A caution is enough to make late Deborah Samuel take orders if indeed she blasphemed. Mobs don't even wait to confirm such stories before acting. Should Christians too be killing Muslims that err at will? Will you be happy? You think you're the only one that knows how to mob or v a strong religious backing? Should the country kuku burn and let everything be yam pepper scatter-scatter? What do you mean by execution to be carried out by Muslim bodies? Who's this janjawēed?
Lukgaf, see your disciple that you shared same mindset with? Is this how you all reason? You are all setting up the country for danger.

Shimran:

But later on, those against the killing goes on to defend her by saying "she got freedom to speak as she likes, even if it hurts others" Seriously? After this uproar, I then changed my mind and defended the actions of the mob.

You defended the actions cos you love demonic acts. Maybe you should be treated with same fate when you erred too.

Shimran:

Trace Muslims records back: We respect religion figures. Bring me a case of incidence where Muslims as a group or individual slander the Christianity religion figures.

There are many Alfas that openly preach heresy against Christianity.

Shimran:

Let's learn to respect one another

It's you muslims that aren't doing that.
In fact should we bring out list of blasphemy killings of Christians in Nigeria alone?
Are you aware if Nigerian Christians should be proactive as IDF, there ll be killings of many muslims?
If your religion is indeed religion if peace, this man won't be dead, https://www.nairaland.com/8132066/police-fail-make-arrests-after
and Deborah Samuel won't be dead. It's a shame to defend this acts from your religion!

Lukgaf:


https://www.facebook.com/share/v/tHyee1kuriyvCufL/?mibextid=oFDknk

There's more to this story. I m not here to support military brutality. But you posting this as religious oriented topic is alarming. You are an elder and you should not be among those fanning for religious uproar in Nigeria. It's a pity the whole Nigeria is seeing where you belong. An elder that uses issues like this to create religious tensions. This matter should be tabled to security agencies in charge of that town and that of the state. Your attempt to bastardize one religion to exonerate your own failed and showed you as an hypocrite!
The world is now wise!
This is a pure domestic case between neighbours not religious case!