Shimran:
At least someone whom I can reason with and do understand analogy.

I made a reply to the poster who made a comparison that if it were the Muslim dominated area, those couples would have died by now and then go on to quote Deborah incidence.

Shimran:
At least for the Deborah, there was a case of allegation.

Shimran:
First, it was a case of allegation; secondly, if it happened to be true, she must be called to retract, apologize and never to do again; lastly if the second option failed, it's the Muslims authority that will carry out the execution. This is how it should be carried out Islamically.

Shimran:
But later on, those against the killing goes on to defend her by saying "she got freedom to speak as she likes, even if it hurts others" Seriously? After this uproar, I then changed my mind and defended the actions of the mob. Should this not be done, we would have heard hundreds of similar incidents now. Sure, we can't prevent this from happening as long as you are in your dominated areas or online.

The mob carried out the execution. I blame them for their actions. On the other hand I am in support. We would love to see the justice reigns but the system isn't in support. We might kill her wrongly but we prevent the frequency and high tendency of occurrence of such incidents.

Shimran:
Trace Muslims records back: We respect religion figures.

I live in the core North, christians & Muslims share perimeter fences together. The most important thing is: Respect for one another! Students also happened to find themselves in a mix of the Muslims community. Everyone goes on with their normal life. I got christians friends, whom to now, I dine with them without headaches.

Let's learn to respect one another

Padipadi:

What about those who murdered Aguiyi Ironsi?
You are the o e creating incitement here.
It's not to justify what happened in Iseyin as this post is saying but to tell you two wrongs don't make a right. Lukgaf, there's more to this story. Don't just post one side of a report. You are all brewing religious crisis that can set the country on fire. This matter should v gone directly to nearby law enforcement agencies in charge of that town.

Padipadi:

Muslim authorities are meant to sue for peace. A caution is enough to make late Deborah Samuel take orders if indeed she blasphemed. Mobs don't even wait to confirm such stories before acting. Should Christians too be killing Muslims that err at will? Will you be happy? You think you're the only one that knows how to mob or v a strong religious backing? Should the country kuku burn and let everything be yam pepper scatter-scatter? What do you mean by execution to be carried out by Muslim bodies? Who's this janjawēed?
Lukgaf, see your disciple that you shared same mindset with? Is this how you all reason? You are all setting up the country for danger.
You defended the actions cos you love demonic acts. Maybe you should be treated with same fate when you erred too.

There are many Alfas that openly preach heresy against Christianity.
It's you muslims that aren't doing that.
In fact should we bring out list of blasphemy killings of Christians in Nigeria alone?
Are you aware if Nigerian Christians should be proactive as IDF, there ll be killings of many muslims?
If your religion is indeed religion if peace, this man won't be dead, https://www.nairaland.com/8132066/police-fail-make-arrests-after
and Deborah Samuel won't be dead. It's a shame to defend this acts from your religion!

ovie8200:
Well, he and his wifes got what they deserve. He was warned several times but didn't listened. If were a Christian warned alot time ago, am sure he won't dear to do it in a Muslim dominated área because the repercusión would be his death. He is lucky that Christian don't kill. They only show him a lesson that Christian can match Muslim violence for violence but Christian chose to stay low.

Fujiyama:


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The problem is that your 'analogy' isn't an analogy at all.

You simply provided a justification for the killing of that woman and said she got what she deserved. If that wasn't what you meant or intended to convey then it is best you immediately modify your comment.



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No.

That isn't how it works.

A woman is gone forever. Her life was taken away violently by a mob. There was no due process of any sort involved in the taking away of the life of Deborah Samuels. You cannot excuse the murder of this woman because 'at least there was an allegation'.

Is that the standard now - a mere allegation?



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We seem to be getting somewhere.

Your first few lines show the proper procedure: After an investigation, if it is indeed found that Miss Samuels made offensive remarks, she should be called upon to retract her comments and apologize for them. If she complies, problem solved. If she doesn't then there are still lines of action available under Nigeria's laws.

If Deborah Samuels chooses not to retract her comments and apologize, the next legal option is she can be sued by Nigerian Moslems. It is telling that you bypassed this option completely and moved to the enforcement of Islamic capital punishment - for blasphemy.

Nigerian federal law simply doesn't allow you to do this.



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Your real views are becoming clearer and clearer. I like that, because everyone knows what the issues are and where they stand.

You clearly support the actions of the mob and their instant Islamic 'justice'. You also acknowledge the possibility that people may be falsely accused of blasphemy and speedily killed but such 'wrongful deaths' are ok with you...because they are a useful deterrent to any would be blasphemers. In the space you inhabit, such wrongful deaths are a 'small' price to pay for keeping potential blasphemers against Islam in check.

Nigeria is a theocracy and she doesn't even know it.

I hope non-Moslems are taking notes.



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The above sounds so empty and hollow.

Your prior comments have made your real position very clear. Any non-Moslems who 'dine with you without headaches' are hopelessly naive and have no sense of self preservation.

Once again, I hope non-Moslems are taking notes.

Shimran:


Thousand times Muslims will repeat it should this happen in again. Even if it's our own blood that blaspheme.

Just because you make mockery of your religion doesn't mean Islam should be like that.

Safyqueen:


Do you listen to yourself?
Somebody slaughter a ram for Sallah within the perimeter of his compound and an Islamaphobic neighbor pastor together with his randy soldier son and his friends decided to execute violence on the defenceless family, you are hereby running religio-tribal bigotry and egocentricity? Are you ok at all? If the Muslim community descend on this pastor and his church now, you will start your usual media-hypotenised illusion of Islam & violence or terrorism.
He who deserves no peace will not be granted peace.

Shimran:


[b]I made my stand clea[/b]r: I got no problem mob going after anyone (whether it be my blood or even Muslim) who blaspheme but would best love if the authority take up the matter.

SAYING ISLAM IS PEACE IS THE BIGGEST MISCONCEPTION: yes it is peace only if wills are all submitted to our Creator. You blaspheme and you wanted us to say Islam is peace? Adultery, stealing/robbery/corruption, all other forms of sins will be committed and we just watch and say Islam is peace? Never

After establishing an enabling institution/environment where law and order will be abided, prescribed way of life will be followed, then definitely Peace will be achieved otherwise there will not be peace.


Alfas attacking christians is different from blaspheme. I can attck christians by saying Jesus isn't God, it's the claim of the church. Jesus himself say my God is One. I'm by myself can't do anything. I'm born of woman. I eat. God don't etc. but to call Jesus or similar figures with bad names, never.

Christians may decide to attack we the by saying: our prophet married a 9 year old girl, Muslims didn't believe in salvation, and stuff like that. No problem in that.


As for the IDF, 7 months after the bombardment and its still going on, has Islam ceased to existed ? or has Hamas surrendered? Its a case of Palestine Vs Israel, USA, Europe. In the absence of US alone, Israel will not exist!

Islam has seen worse since the prophet was alive. If there will be someone who's not afraid of death, that should be a Muslim.

I will gladly like the Nigerian Christians to act like the IDF so that the blame games end. Could you imagine any riot in plateau or Benue, Muslims are blamed for? And their govt are all christians?

Thelife:


You are stupid, that's why Israel will continue to kill you troll, shameless animal.

Your useless hisslam have already make mockery of itself together with your gigolo fake prophet.

Thelife:


Did you know how stupid all the trash you wrote up there sound?

Can you please define blasphemy for us?

Smile, just pray the day never come sha, because I promise you what your brother is facing in Gaza will be a child play compare to what will befall you hopeless terrorist.

Zxcvbnmghtr:


Of which you have shown your interest so much that you can't avoid contributing your own opinion. Xxxxtentacion2 why not mention this person below too. Are you a coward or just a hypocrite?!

ovie8200:
Well, he and his wifes got what they deserve. He was warned several times but didn't listened. If were a Christian warned alot time ago, am sure he won't dear to do it in a Muslim dominated área because the repercusión would be his death. He is lucky that Christian don't kill. They only show him a lesson that Christian can match Muslim violence for violence but Christian chose to stay low.

Chikel20000:
no need replying that oaf bro....no need

Shimran:
I'm not here to apologize to you or whatsoever.

Shimran:
Anyone (even myself) who blaspheme I got no problem with mob action but would best love if the authority takes up the matter!

Shimran:
We know christians preaches love and even go further to say....."turn the other cheek" Islam don't have to copy that.

Shimran:
We Muslims can only be good to the Christians/other faiths if we leave Islam otherwise we always have taboos for them to complain.

Safyqueen:
Somebody slaughter a ram for Sallah within the perimeter of his compound and an Islamaphobic neighbor pastor together with his randy soldier son and his friends decided to execute violence on the defenceless family, you are hereby running religio-tribal bigotry and egocentricity?

Shimran:


Early Muslims see worst than what Gaza sees now. You don't threaten Muslims with death.

MajGenGaniyu:
Hmmmm.....
What a sad moment.... I don't know what they teach Christians of today.. It's like they teach them that Muslims are their enemies... I have had several encounters with Christians and have enough proofs they are not tolerating... You decide to talk religious issues, they will bring Al Qaeda, Boko Haram into the matter... Why... Apart from Ignorant Muslims... Christians are problems in this country.... You stay in your house relaxing for the weekend... A Christian will come to knock on your own door telling you to accept Jesus and if a Muslim have done that, they would be tagged terrorists.... Who is terrorizing who.... I submit this as nobody is perfect...

Shimran:


Are you pained like this?
Muslims are always ready for the worst to happen. Bring it on. Blaspheme in public and see for yourself.

Thelife:


Smile pained as how?

This is not the first time your useless gigolo fake prophet mumuhammad will be insulted in south here, I don't see you coming to kill us, stupid fellow, why don't your allah attacked the pastor back and see the real deal or you think here is your desert north. Trust me you people are not even preparing for have of what's to come, ask your fellow head slammers in Central Africa region (CAR) they will tell you that the calmness of a Christian doesn't mean coward.

Thelife:


Smile what did early Muslims sees please?

Your gigolo fake prophet wasn't scared of death yet he ran from Mecca to Medina 😂 he should have waited now.

Or why did your early Muslims seek refugees in Christian nations when they are been persecuted instead of staying since they are not afraid of death, smile they are not afraid of death yet they are crying and begging international community to beg and restrain Israel. You people are so dummb seriously.

Shimran:


You mean Gaza strip Vs Israel, the US, the Europe. Just a strip? Versus the world powers and the strip is still standing?

Muslims did it Afghanistan. It will do it again in Palestine. Bombardments, invasions, striking give us strength.

Lukgaf:


How am I one sided? Could you watch video yourself if you understand Yoruba? According to the report, they reported the case to the police and operation burst and they wanted to sweep it under the carpet.

Lukgaf:

If you can read my post again sir/ma, you will see I was balanced if you're not bias

Thelife:


Oponu, it still standing while you are still crying all over the world for help 😂

Smile, please what did Muslim did in Afghanistan? Why don't you take over the Afghanistan when US soldiers are still there? You people are so coward that you only attack your fellow kinsman after US left, shameless chest beater

Shimran:


I made my stand clear: I got no problem mob going after anyone (whether it be my blood or even Muslim) who blaspheme but would best love if the authority take up the matter.

Shimran:

SAYING ISLAM IS PEACE IS THE BIGGEST MISCONCEPTION: yes it is peace only if wills are all submitted to our Creator. You blaspheme and you wanted us to say Islam is peace? Adultery, stealing/robbery/corruption, all other forms of sins will be committed and we just watch and say Islam is peace? Never

Shimran:

After establishing an enabling institution/environment where law and order will be abided, prescribed way of life will be followed, then definitely Peace will be achieved otherwise there will not be peace.

Shimran:

Alfas attacking christians is different from blaspheme. I can attck christians by saying Jesus isn't God, it's the claim of the church. Jesus himself say my God is One. I'm by myself can't do anything. I'm born of woman. I eat. God don't etc. but to call Jesus or similar figures with bad names, never.

Shimran:

As for the IDF, 7 months after the bombardment and its still going on, has Islam ceased to existed ? or has Hamas surrendered? Its a case of Palestine Vs Israel, USA, Europe. In the absence of US alone, Israel will not exist!

Shimran:

Islam has seen worse since the prophet was alive. If there will be someone who's not afraid of death, that should be a Muslim.

Shimran:

I will gladly like the Nigerian Christians to act like the IDF so that the blame games end. Could you imagine any riot in plateau or Benue, Muslims are blamed for? And their govt are all christians?

omoredia:


Jesus is not God. He is the son of God. Don't get it mixed up

BafanaBafana:

Can you explain the Trinity please?

omoredia:


Is the trinity in ur bible? U might want to quote the passage where u saw the word 'trinity' cos I take the bible as the basis of what needs to be discussed.