okunwaye:

Foolishness and gullibility are ageless ✌️

I totally agree with you. Those who bow to other gods are quite more foolish than their gods. Spit!

ReacherSaidNoth:
Agnostic is not a middle ground between theist and atheist, learn the meaning of words. One can be both agnostic theist or agnostic atheist.

Learn to read properly. There's no where I said it's the middle ground.

And it's either. Not both. Clear?

abba190:
all the guys that think God isnt real are mads. if God doesnt exist then who will punish tinubu?

If God is punishing him how come he's president and you the religious one is still a pauper.

CorrectionFLuid:


Learn to read properly. There's no where I said it's the middle ground.

And it's either. Not both. Clear?

Take correction and move on, you statement showed that you view agnostics as some third and different point of view when it is clearly not.
Most people who call themselves agnostic are just cowardly atheists.

Like I said, learn the meaning of words before you use them. Okay, kid?

captaininiobong:



There is a way religion tunes our mentality that even nature wont forgive religion. They made us to believe we can stay idle, pray to God and he will open our way with financial strenght.

Our religious men dont preach the need for having a skill especially in this developed era so we can increase our income but you have to come with tithe and offering to church even though you dont have food to eat.

This is what they do but God doesnt work that way. Ensure you do your best first, give God his time. Work hard then your prayer will work for you. God isnt wicked to ignore helping man. Sometimes its either we are working against our selves or we are not in alignment.

But God is kind and perfect, just play your part and leave him do his part. God is real

All this gibberish you wrote here are illogical.
Last time I checked it was religeon( christainity) that brought educatio and skills to Africa.

And presently there are thousand of Churches offering free skill acquisition programmes to there members and non members.

The air he breathes for free comes from who?

ReacherSaidNoth:
The closest anyone can get to the origin of all things is the Big Bang, outside of that, everything is speculation. We simply do not know.

The real fools are people like you who believe in a god that only exists on the pages of a book, some of you are even dumb enough to say you have a relationship with this imaginary entity.

You don't know what evidence is, and why it is important. That is why you are easily misled into accepting a stupid book that is not historical and fails in almost all its scientific claims. And you dumbasses dare to call people who see the scam for what it is, "fools"

Big bang
Some of you murder science in the name of woke.

If you know newton's first law of motion and the law of thermo dynamics you would know that big bang cannot OCCUR without a GOD.

Honchoslim16:

Guy, life doesn't care if you a theist or an Atheist. Life no send you!

Last time I checked, there's no one problem free.

So y'all should stop with these yeye talks

PROBLEM, is nothing but SOCIETAL expectations. its virtual. problem does not exist.
the fun part is, problem is the fuel of religion. churches today are problem centers
u are probably in one church rite now, praying that ur enemies should DIE by fire.
just look behind u. ur enemy is in the next row, praying that his enemy should die by fire at the same time
both of you are clowns

Rrchrd:
A fool who is looking for a way to trend or possess by the devil, if God doesnt exist then who created him .

Na you be the real mumu.
Who is God,
Who created God
How did you know God is He and not She or it?

blueAgent:


Big bang
Some of you murder science in the name of woke.

If you know newton's first law of motion and the law of thermo dynamics you would know that big bang cannot OCCUR without a GOD.

first law of motion, EVERY BODY CONTINUES IN A STATE OF REST OR PEPETUAL LINEAR MOTION EXCEPT INDENTED UPON TO ACT OTHERWISE.
there are three laws of thermodynamics. which of them are u referring to?
then how do these, disprove the big bang?

blueAgent:


Big bang
Some of you murder science in the name of woke.

If you know newton's first law of motion and the law of thermo dynamics you would know that big bang cannot OCCUR without a GOD.

You this dumb f*ck, stop quoting me. I cannot be exchanging words with someone who believes in stories of talking animals and pregnant virgins.

ReacherSaidNoth:
Take correction and move on, you statement showed that you view agnostics as some third and different point of view when it is clearly not.
Most people who call themselves agnostic are just cowardly atheists.

Like I said, learn the meaning of words before you use them. Okay, kid?

Grandpa point out to me where I said agnostic is the middle ground or get lost.
@bolded, hasty generalization is the first symptom of proud ignorance.

--edit--
I just found out you're a new atheist. Lol. I should've guessed. Don't worry you are in your first stages. That stage you just want everyone to know you're smart. We all passed through it ok.

So don't worry cos Soon you will learn that you don't know it all, then you will start tolerating people's opinions and beliefs ok.

ReacherSaidNoth:
You this dumb f*ck, stop quoting me. I cannot be exchanging words with someone who believes in stories of talking animals and pregnant virgins.

Zombie.

Just use style say you don murder science.

Am sure you have never heard of Newton's law of motion and Thermodynamics.

Wannabe atheist and Scientists.

Krismas:
PROBLEM is nothing but SOCIETAL expectations. its virtual. problem does not exist.
the fun part is, problem is the fuel of religion. churches today are problem centers
u are probably in one church rite now, praying that ur enemies should DIE by fire.
just look behind u. ur enemy is in the next row, praying that his enemy should die by fire at the same time
both of you are clowns

Sometimes make una dey read and try understand... Problem wey I dey talk of no be spiritual or whatever Christians call it.

The guy was talking like it's only non believers who encounter bad things/stuffs/sh!ts/problems etc accidents, disasters...

So I'm asking him who on earth doesn't encounter such? Whether na Christians or Muslims or Buddhists or Atheists or Agnostics 🤷🏽‍♂️

Life doesn't care about your beliefs, accidents don't care whether you be Christian or not.

I hope you understand what i was trying to explain to that guy. By the way, I'm agnostic.. 7yrs now.

Krismas:
first law of motion, EVERY BODY CONTINUES IN A STATE OF REST OR PEPETUAL LINEAR MOTION EXCEPT INDENTED UPON TO ACT OTHERWISE.
there are three laws of thermodynamics. which of them are u referring to?
then how do these, disprove the big bang?

Really?

Someone who wants to sisprove GOD does not exist does not know Newton's law and how it can impact bigbang?

You are a joker.

Look at that law and apply it to your bigbang then come back and let's talk.

ReacherSaidNoth:
You this dumb f*ck, stop quoting me. I cannot be exchanging words with someone who believes in stories of talking animals and pregnant virgins.

Actually, Human pregnant virgins Are quite realistic theoretically, WAIT hear me out. If you were to surgically cut open a virgin's stomach, you could theoretically insert a sperm in there like Frankenstein and then sew it up there by giving rise to Pregnant virgins.

Matheusmartin:
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Thats Danny my guyyy..

Be giving those oversabi Christians sleepless nights.
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I don't know if there's a God or not.
But it's obvious it/he/she does not interfere in the affairs of men.
No special benefits whatsoever for believing in the existence of a God.

As a Nigerian,you'd still fail exams if u do not prepare well. You'd still fail interviews with no proper connections. You'd still fall sick, get involved in accidents that may even claim your life, get kidnapped and die gruesome death.

I ask,what's that special benefit do believers actually get from their so call relationships with god

Glad to see someone who reason as me.

Like I always said, there's absolutely nothing special about humans from the small ant in our houses.
Creator has no interference in earthly routine whom he already programmed.

The "holiest" pastor on earth is not special than the worse villain on earth. If a natural disaster occurred and those 2 were unfortunate enough to be in the vicinity, they're both going to perish. No special treatment.

No special creation in the sight of the creator, humans are not any special than animals or insects.

To know who "God" is truly is, one needs to studied/observe nature, not some book written by men with motives.

Heaven/hell is just fairytales, if God needed humans in heaven he would had created them there.

I've thought so much on this course of existence of God.....what I got was that, Humanity is the God we seek.....you don't use logic to understand God or else, you find yourself more atheist

Do good to people around you, give alms, have human conscience. I will give instances against and for.

Against:..... I've believed there's no God based on some thoughts. For example, according to Christian beliefs, "to see the Father, you must pass through me, Jesus" . "Only those that believed in father will inherit the kingdom of heaven" ( this passages are in Bible, tho I don't think I put them well). Now I ask......if the world is population of 8billion and Christian believers are about 20 percent of this population. So the 80% of the world population is going to hell??. The Buddhists, the islams, the Atheist?
Makes sense??

Now for:.

In my village, 2 of my friends that left for Yankee when we were Young has both stayed for about 13yrs each and non has returned home since then. Thou one has build a big mansion at the first six years of thier departure and one a bungalow....but return home nah.... PROBLEM.

So the kindred decided they should contribute and call a renowned traditionalist that specializes on "igba afa" (happened in Agulu Anambra State). So after the whole igba afa of a thing. The traditionalist said....
1....2 of them are in prison (1 in India, the other in Thailand)
2... 1 will be executed by the ending of last year.

So after this his seeings. Huge contribution was made to make sure that the two return back home. To cut the story short..... after all the ritual rites by this traditionalist .....the two of them returned to Nigeria December 2023.

Now the major shocking story..... The one that stayed in India narrated how he was realeased. That a week before his execution. A hefty looking, thick bearded black man came to the prison. Met with the prison warden and officials. Was talking to them with much command and even scolding them on why the arrested a named "Nwabunike". After his stay with them....he gave them a letter.

Not less than two hours the man challenged the prison officials, the top officer gave an order to release him(my friend). And that he do be on guard till his Visa mature and he leaves India for Nigeria.
He came out from the prison, so surprised. Met the hefty man, greeted him. And the man told him...."just go back to your house and arrange your things, everything about your transportation back to Nigeria has been taken care of, I will be checking on you regularly". Still confused....my friend went back to his house. But never saw this hefty man again till he flew back to Nigeria.

It sounds so unreal......but it's a true/real story.
If the gods can do this.....then There's indeed an Almighty God that can do more.

Cos in universe..... having a Black, you must have white

I believe in Almighty God.

But extremism to religion is a No No for me

The guy is just a scammer. Saying his client helped him publicly . Probably a fraudster. Thinking he helped himself through his dubious ways

Everyday247:
Actually, Human pregnant virgins Are quite realistic theoretically, WAIT hear me out. If you were to surgically cut open a virgin's stomach, you could theoretically insert a sperm in there like Frankenstein and then sew it up there by giving rise to Pregnant virgins.

That's not what the religious dumbos believe. In their case, a spirit came upon a virgin girl, an adolescent girl who did not give consent, and from there a fertilization somehow happened with ghost sperm and human ovum

ReacherSaidNoth:
That's not what the religious dumbos believe. In their case, a spirit came upon a virgin girl, an adolescent girl who did not give consent, and from there a fertilization somehow happened with ghost sperm and human ovum

The holy Spirit did not come upon her, the sperm was teleported into her

Sergio103:
I've thought so much on this course of existence of God.....what I got was that, Humanity is the God we seek.....you don't use logic to understand God or else, you find yourself more atheist

Do good to people around you, give alms, have human conscience. I will give instances against and for.

Against:..... I've believed there's no God based on some thoughts. For example, according to Christian beliefs, "to see the Father, you must pass through me, Jesus" . "Only those that believed in father will inherit the kingdom of heaven" ( this passages are in Bible, tho I don't think I put them well). Now I ask......if the world is population of 8billion and Christian believers are about 20 percent of this population. So the 80% of the world population is going to hell??. The Buddhists, the islams, the Atheist?
Makes sense??

Now for:.

In my village, 2 of my friends that left for Yankee when we were Young has both stayed for about 13yrs each and non has returned home since then. Thou one has build a big mansion at the first six years of thier departure and one a bungalow....but return home nah.... PROBLEM.

So the kindred decided they should contribute and call a renowned traditionalist that specializes on "igba afa" (happened in Agulu Anambra State). So after the whole igba afa of a thing. The traditionalist said....
1....2 of them are in prison (1 in India, the other in Thailand)
2... 1 will be executed by the ending of last year.

So after this his seeings. Huge contribution was made to make sure that the two return back home. To cut the story short..... after all the ritual rites by this traditionalist .....the of them returned to Nigeria December 2023.

Now the major shocking story..... The one that stayed in India narrated how he was realeased. That a week before his execution. A hefty looking, thick bearded black man came to the prison. Met with the prison warden and officials. Was talking to them with much command and even scolding them on why the arrested a named "Nwabunike". After his stay with them....he gave them a letter.

Not less than two hours the man challenged the prison officials, he top officer gave the the order to release him(my friend). And that he do be on guard till his Visa mature and he leaves India for Nigeria.
He came out from the prison, so surprised. Met the hefty man, greeted him. And the man told him...."just go back to your house and arrange your things, everything about your transportation back to Nigeria has been taken care of, I will be checking on you regularly". Still confused....my friend went back to his house. But never saw this hefty man again till he flew back to Nigeria.

It sounds so unreal......but it's a true/real story.
If the gods can do this.....then There's indeed an Almighty God that can do more.

Cos in universe..... having a Black, you must have white

I believe in Almighty God.

But extremism to religion is a No No for me

These your friends, what where they in for?

SocialJustice:
No risk taken, the God described by religion is fallible. A little common sense, you see it does not add up, then religious folks ask you to believe, blindly.

If you see God as the intelligence behind this creation, it makes a lot more sense not some dude sitting on a shiny chair punishing, blessing some and forcing some to pay tithes. 😂😂😂

The patriarchy in religious God self.

God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit

What of God the mother? Ojoro

You don smoke Colos again abi? Stop smoking Igbo social justice. It's not good for your brain.

My Mom said I should tell you that you'll later become a great pastor... Just calm down.

CorrectionFLuid:


Grandpa point out to me where I said agnostic is the middle ground or get lost.
@bolded, hasty generalization is the first symptom of proud ignorance.

Pride goeth before a fall, instead of thanking me you decide to take offense.

I'm just glad that you now know the truth . Let me simplify it again, so you don't forget:

Theist/Atheist- answers the question of whether or not a person believes in a god(s).

Gnostic/Agnostic- is concerned with the possession of knowledge about the actual existence of a god(s). I know for or against, gets the gnostic label, and I don't know or such knowledge is unknowable, gets the agnostic label.

So when you say, "Better than theists and atheists that always claim to know all." It quite clearly shows that you are not familiar with my above explanation of the different positions, and you also erroneously think that they are mutually exclusive.

Everyday247:
These your friends, what where they in for?

.

One was drug case, the other a murder charge.

But in different countries.

They are doing well now in Nigeria

Sergio103:
.

One was drug case, the other a murder charge.

But in different countries.

They are doing well now in Nigeria

I hope they were innocent oh, it would ruin the gods image if they assisted a prison break.

You have sinned against God. Pray He forgive you.
If there's no God, who created you?

blueAgent:


Really?

Someone who wants to sisprove GOD does not exist does not know Newton's law and how it can impact bigbang?

You are a joker.

Look at that law and apply it to your bigbang then come back and let's talk.

referring to the laws of motion and thermodynamics, wot u trying to say is that big bang could not have occurred by itself as an arbitrary accident. i get it. and i agree.
i am not disputing the existence of god. or gods.
gods are either fellow humans or extraterrestrial beings interfering with the earth in most destructive manners.
all gods are useless. selfish and unhelpful. that is my point.
to be a god, u must 1. be powerful to some extent.
2. u must be mortal
3. u must have a god u worship urself.
there is no most high god. every child say his fathers farm is the biggest, until he see another mans farm.
the most high however, is not a god. he is the summation of everything in existence. both visible, invisible, animate or inanimate
such entity, cannot fit in one place, cos he/she/it is everyplace. he does not grant stupid wishes. u only get wot u deserve per time.
most high always thinks about the whole. just like if the breast is cancerous, a woman will cut it off. least it endangers the whole.
any member of the most high endangering the whole balance of the multiverse, is cut off, so such member can better regenerate.
this is why evolution and reincarnation or recycling is inevitable. its for good. its not luck, good or bad.
human and god misintervention, merely delays the inevitable. the balance of the whole, is sacrosanct. the most high, is the whole.

Everyday247:
I hope they were innocent oh, it would ruin the gods image if they assisted a prison break.

Don't know where you are heading to. But all I know is that I've seen some supernatural things beyond human explanation.

Me...I don't go to church (maybe once in 3 months). But I can't deny the fact that there's God.

Humanity is the greatest religion through which you worship God. Not by shouting in church or mosque.

Do good to brethren. Live the little at most 110yrs you got in this planet

ReacherSaidNoth:
Pride goeth before a fall, instead of thanking me you decide to take offense.

I'm just glad that you now know the truth . Let me simplify it again, so you don't forget:

Theist/Atheist- answers the question of whether or not a person believes in a god(s).

Gnostic/Agnostic- is concerned with the possession of knowledge about the actual existence of a god(s). I know for or against, gets the gnostic label, and I don't know or such knowledge is unknowable, gets the agnostic label.

So when you say, "Better than theists and atheists that always claim to know all." It quite clearly shows that you are not familiar with my above explanation of the different positions, and you also erroneously think that they are mutually exclusive.

You're trying to sound smart but actually you're not. Like I said earlier, you're just showing the first symptoms of someone who just discovered atheism. And I'll like to reassure you once again that with time, you go dey alright. We all passed through same process. You're in your rabid dog stage.

Back to your reply, You took what I said, made your own assumptions to what I may have meant, and project it as the actual meaning. That's not so smart.

If I say that supreme noodles spice is better than indomie and mimee which I think tastes more salty than spicy, does that mean that I said supreme noodles is the middle ground?

You should first find out what someone actually means before making your own hasty and wrong assumptions. Seek first to understand before drawing conclusions. Hope you learn this today.

CorrectionFLuid:


You're trying to sound smart but actually you're not. Like I said earlier, you're just showing the full symptoms of someone who just discovered atheism.

You took what I said, made your own assumptions to what I may have meant, and project it as the actual meaning. That's not so smart.

If I say that supreme noodles spice is better than indomie and mimee which I think tastes more salty than spicy, does that mean that I said supreme noodles is the middle ground?

You should first find out what someone actually means before making your own hasty and wrong assumptions. Hope you learn this today.

You are not a bright person. And whether or not I'm a new or an ancient atheist does not change the fact that you do not know the meaning of the words you were using . Try another escape

By the way, your indomie story shows you still don't understand things, so go back and read my explanation slowly. Pride will not do you any good, kid. If you are still confused afterwards, I'm here for you

And not that it matters, I've been an atheist for six years. I don't also claim to know everything, it's not possible to do so. And finally, stupid beliefs do not deserve any respect.