geoworldedu:
But fornication according to religion is a taboo. So doing it is wrong for them.

Does dating automatically results to fornication?
And if I want to marry somehow, won't we date first?
Will I just carry her and wed her straight. The way people see dating in Nigeria is somehow

Sapeleboy911:

I believe you know the meaning of FORNICATION and what the Bible made us understand about it.

Dating doesn't always result to fornication. And if there is marriage in view, won't I date the person first to know who she is?

I can't marry someone I'm not familiar with o. I can't just carry her and wed her straight.

Holluwhakemmy:
and your name is Oluwaseyi remove the Oluwa there if you agree with the guy

Does Oluwa mean God? No, it actually means lord, not god.

gammarays:

There's one God, there are many gods.

Wio is that one God, Allah, Jehovah Vishnu or Eledumare? Which of them?

Let's talk about each of them briefly:

Allah sent Mohammed
Jehovah sent Jesus
Vishnu sent Krishna
Eledumare sent Oduduwa

Which of them is God, so that we can return the rest of them to the gods status?

faceland:


I don't think you want a Nigeria with an atheist majority.
Those childhood indoctrination play some kind of break in the child's conscience. If they go too far against their conscience, they self-sabotage and call it karma.

That's not how the world works though. The rise of morality had little to do with religion and more the need to survive. In order to survive you need numbers as you're more likely to be killed by animals when alone so you form alliances with other humans and create a mini civilization. In order for the civilization to thrive you'd need to try not to do things that would threaten the civilization like murder, theft etc. societies that didn't figure this out fast enough got obliterated while those that did figure it out survived and that's what we came from.

SIRTee15:


Bring the name of the scholars here...don't show me a conspiracy junk YouTube video.
Anybody can put nonsense from their brain on YouTube but not anybody can write academic papers.

I gave U names of prominent well renowned scholars in new testamoiuent field, U reply by poting a YouTube video. Guy U funny. uin

My friend, Give me the names of new testament scholars who believe Jesus was invented by flavius family.

I want names not YouTube video

The dude is ignorant and oblivious and i honestly didn't have the energy for his contradictory, all over the place discredited arguments, with youtube sources of all sources😆. Seriously! Its like arguing with a flat earther with hubris, what's the point. Not even a theist but the arguments are so absurd like picking any random bs just to solidify a claim.

geoworldedu:
Does Oluwa mean God? No, it actually means lord, not god.

God is Lord over everything. There is no Lord without God.

hopefulLandlord:

That's not how the world works though. The rise of morality had little to do with religion and more the need to survive. In order to survive you need numbers as you're more likely to be killed by animals when alone so you form alliances with other humans and create a mini civilization. In order for the civilization to thrive you'd need to try not to do things that would threaten the civilization like murder, theft etc. societies that didn't figure this out fast enough got obliterated while those that did figure it out survived and that's what we came from.

It’s easy to speculate accurately on he evolution of morality when you consider the vast human history and culture. It’s impossible to speculate when you think morality was created by the most repulsive character mankind ever created, “god”.

Lucifyre:


The dude is ignorant and oblivious and i honestly didn't have the energy for his contradictory, all over the place discredited arguments, with youtube sources of all sources😆. Seriously! Its like arguing with a flat earther with hubris, what's the point. Not even a theist but the arguments are so absurd like picking any random bs just to solidify a claim.

His arguments are so stupid that prominent atheists and mythicists denounced it as nonsense.
He's lost in the world of conspiracy junks, that's his problem.
Imagine bringing YouTube video as evidence.

hopefulLandlord:

That's not how the world works though. The rise of morality had little to do with religion and more the need to survive. In order to survive you need numbers as you're more likely to be killed by animals when alone so you form alliances with other humans and create a mini civilization. In order for the civilization to thrive you'd need to try not to do things that would threaten the civilization like murder, theft etc. societies that didn't figure this out fast enough got obliterated while those that did figure it out survived and that's what we came from.

Religion has everything to do with morality.
Now that the west has rejected Christianity and embrace secular liberalism, we can see how fast their society is degenerating and falling apart with spread of homosexuality, only fans girls, toxic feminism, drug use, gender dysphoria, men competing in women sports, suicide, depression and multiple issues.

You cannot separate religion from morality because the former helps with a constant and definite objective morality unlike liberal secularism that keeps changing the goalpost of what is morality up and down.

Holluwhakemmy:
God is Lord over everything. There is no Lord without God.

Haven't you heard of the Lord who created the God?

geoworldedu:


Haven't you heard of the Lord who created the God?

No not at all

SIRTee15:


Bring the name of the scholars here...don't show me a conspiracy junk YouTube video.
Anybody can put nonsense from their brain on YouTube but not anybody can write academic papers.

I gave U names of prominent well renowned scholars in new testament field, U reply by posting a YouTube video. Guy U funny.

My friend, Give me the names of new testament scholars who believe Jesus was invented by flavius family.

I want names not YouTube video

the utube video i shared, is based on the book "Creating Christ" by James S. Valliant & Warren Fahy and the speakers in the video include

Dr. Robert Price

Prof. Robert Eisenman

Acharya Sanning / D.M. Murdock

i have already given u one name upfront. Dr. Richard Carrier

and all you have to say is conspiracy theory.

What the last pagan emperor thought:

"It is, I think, expedient to set forth to all mankind the reasons by which I was convinced that the fabrication of the Christians is a fiction of men composed by wickedness. Though it has in it nothing divine, by making full use of that part of the soul which loves fable and is childish and foolish, it has induced men to believe that the monstrous tale is truth." (Julian)

SIRTee15:

Religion has everything to do with morality.
Now that the west has rejected Christianity and embrace secular liberalism, we can see how fast their society is degenerating and falling apart with spread of homosexuality, only fans girls, toxic feminism, drug use, gender dysphoria, men competing in women sports, suicide, depression and multiple issues.

You cannot separate religion from morality because the former helps with a constant and definite objective morality unlike liberal secularism that keeps changing the goalpost of what is morality up and down.

how moral are the various religious leaders in nigeria?

https://saharareporters.com/2024/05/31/former-mfm-church-usher-narrates-how-founder-olukoya-allegedly-asked-police-shoot-him

https://saharareporters.com/2024/06/01/mfm-church-founder-olukoya-not-different-reverend-king-who-was-convicted-killing-church#google_vignette

religion, is for FOOLS.

Krismas:
the utube video i shared, is based on the book "Creating Christ" by James S. Valliant & Warren Fahy and the speakers in the video include

Dr. Robert Price

Prof. Robert Eisenman

Acharya Sanning / D.M. Murdock

i have already given u one name upfront. Dr. Richard Carrier

and all you have to say is conspiracy theory.

Are U blind, did U read my post at all.
Richard Carrier debunked the flavius invented Jesus nonsense.
The mythicist Richard Carrier has stated that all of Caesar's Messiah alleged parallels can be explained as either coincidences, mistranslations, or references to Old Testament sources or tropes'

Carrier believed Jesus was invented but not by flavius family or any Roman ideology.


Dr Robert price also debunked the flavius Jesus connection nonsense.
In case U missed it, this is what he said

The mythicist Biblical scholar Robert M. Price wrote that Atwill- the author is Caesar's Messiah "gives himself license to indulge in the most outrageous display of parallelomania ever seen."

Prof Robert Eishenhem on the other hand believe in historical Jesus, he just doesn't believe in his divinity or any theology associated with him.

It's like U dont read. U brought 3 scholars here who already said the flavius inventing jesus is nonsense.

As U can see, U are way way out of your depth on this issue.
I asked for evidence. I brought scholars who agreed with me.
What I'm asking for is scholars who disagreed with me. I want scholars who said the jesus- flavius connection is true.

SIRTee15:


Are U blind, did U read my post at all.
Richard Carrier debunked the flavius invented Jesus nonsense.
The mythicist Richard Carrier has stated that all of Caesar's Messiah alleged parallels can be explained as either coincidences, mistranslations, or references to Old Testament sources or tropes'

Carrier believed Jesus was invented but not by flavius family or any Roman ideology.


Dr Robert price also debunked the flavius Jesus connection nonsense.
In case U missed it, this is what he said

The mythicist Biblical scholar Robert M. Price wrote that Atwill- the author is Caesar's Messiah "gives himself license to indulge in the most outrageous display of parallelomania ever seen."

Prof Robert Eishenhem on the other hand believe in historical Jesus, he just doesn't believe in his divinity or any theology associated with him.

It's like U dont read. U brought 3 scholars here who already said the flavius inventing jesus is nonsense.

As U can see, U are way way out of your depth on this issue.
I asked for evidence. I brought scholars who agreed with me.
What I'm asking for is scholars who disagreed with me. I want scholars who said the jesus- flavius connection is true.

ur idiocy, is honestly beginning to get on my nerves.
i didnt list Richard Carrier as supportive on flavius creating jesus.
carrier debunked ur Bart Ehrman on historical jesus. thats wot i was refering to.
as for Dr Robert price and prof Robert Eishenhem, why will they get on a video, supportive on flavius creating jesus, if they disagree with it?
i shared the video with you, rather than watch it, u start talking backwards. i may stop engaging with you, since u have an unmitigable condescending air. believe wot you like. its no business of mine really. thanks and bye

Krismas:
ur idiocy, is honestly beginning to get on my nerves.
i didnt list Richard Carrier as supportive on flavius creating jesus.
carrier debunked ur Bart Ehrman on historical jesus. thats wot i was refering to.
as for Dr Robert price and prof Robert Eishenhem, why will they get on a video, supportive on flavius creating jesus, if they disagree with it?
i shared the video with you, rather than watch it, u start talking backwards. i may stop engaging with you, since u have an unmitigable condescending air. believe wot you like. its no business of mine really. thanks and bye

Hahaha...U gave up.
Quote what they said on the YouTube video and post it here. U are a pathetic liar.
Look at the so called pseudo atheist forming intelligent.
U dont know anything about Richard Carrier or Robert Eishenhem yet U brought them here to validate your false claim.

Bring evidence Robert Eishenhem ever claimed Jesus was invented.

Olodo

a useless forged religion, full of fake greek gods and sheepish devotees

one religious leader visited Auschwitz to commemorate a lie
and another one visited a while afterwards to commemorate yet a greater lie. no questions asked

geoworldedu:
Wio is that one God, Allah, Jehovah Vishnu or Eledumare? Which of them?

Let's talk about each of them briefly:

Allah sent Mohammed
Jehovah sent Jesus
Vishnu sent Krishna
Eledumare sent Oduduwa

Which of them is God, so that we can return the rest of them to the gods status?

Different religions have different names for him. Christians/Jews call him Jehovah/Yahweh, Muslims Allah, Indians Vishnu and so on. There's only one God.

gammarays:

Different religions have different names for him. Christians/Jews call him Jehovah/Yahweh, Muslims Allah, Indians Vishnu and so on. There's only one God.

And he sent Mohammed, Jesus, Oduduwa and Krishna to say different things abi? Just dey play.

geoworldedu:

And he sent Mohammed, Jesus, Oduduwa and Krishna to say different things abi? Just dey play.

Oga you just love unnecessary argument without understanding. I told you different religions have different versions of the same entity.
Jesus is to Christians what Mohammed is to Muslims and so on.
Best to enquire from the creator himself to know and not depend on assumptions. You're even diverting from the topic and confusing yourself.

gammarays:

Oga you just love unnecessary argument without understanding. I told you different religions have different versions of the same entity.
Jesus is to Christians what Mohammed is to Muslims and so on.
Best to enquire from the creator himself to know and not depend on assumptions. You're even diverting from the topic and confusing yourself.

L l
You sound too dumb. Imagine the equation o
Jesus and Mohammed are now equated and Krishna and Eshu too will be equated. Just dey play

Krismas:
yet, jesus is black


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFh8hx8Vjzo?si=2Jdv-S0NXLThEqYW

Jesus is no longer black; he is risen from the dead and become the first fruits of them that slept

MrPresident1:


Jesus is no longer black; he is risen from the dead and become the first fruits of them that slept

So wot color is Jesus now? Or did he bleach?

Krismas:
So wot color is Jesus now? Or did he bleach?

it was never about complexion or skin colour. Being black or white according to the Romans/Latin, is a state of mentality and/or spirituality

Matheusmartin:
...
Thats Danny my guyyy..

Be giving those oversabi Christians sleepless nights.
..


I don't know if there's a God or not.
But it's obvious it/he/she does not interfere in the affairs of men.
No special benefits whatsoever for believing in the existence of a God.

As a Nigerian,you'd still fail exams if u do not prepare well. You'd still fail interviews with no proper connections. You'd still fall sick, get involved in accidents that may even claim your life, get kidnapped and die gruesome death.

I ask,what's that special benefit do believers actually get from their so call relationships with god

In my personal life, especially medically and financially, I have experienced occurrences (after prayers) that convinced me beyond a doubt that they were responses to those prayers from an entity other than myself. These could not be explained by coincidence. In my heart, I believe that was/is GOD. I believe the advantage for believers in GOD is that opportunity/ability/permission to reach out to this DEITY (called Grace by the Bible) in times of trouble. No one can prove GOD exists, at least for now. It's a matter of faith or belief.

MrPresident1:


it was never about complexion or skin colour. Being black or white according to the Romans/Latin, is a state of mentality and/or spirituality

U couldn’t be more delusional
If the Roman church could portray Jesus as white, why do u think they didn’t also whitewash his teachings? If they couldn’t even get right his skin color, how can u trust they got right his doctrines?

SIRTee15:


Hahaha...U gave up.
Quote what they said on the YouTube video and post it here. U are a pathetic liar.
Look at the so called pseudo atheist forming intelligent.
U dont know anything about Richard Carrier or Robert Eishenhem yet U brought them here to validate your false claim.

Bring evidence Robert Eishenhem ever claimed Jesus was invented.

Olodo

He just kept on embarrassing himself. Confident and ignorant, amazing combo.

geoworldedu:

L l
You sound too dumb. Imagine the equation o
Jesus and Mohammed are now equated and Krishna and Eshu too will be equated. Just dey play

A combination of ignorance and arrogance is deadly. What I implied is God has a medium between himself and man. Christians call him Jesus, Moslem Mohammed and so on
No need replying you shaa