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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 11:30am On Jun 30
The Banks will always find a way around it.

It still didn't stop trade between Russia and China from ballooning to a record $240 billion in 2023. Maintaining the flow of income and goods is of high priority to both countries.

Both countries have cemented their friendship. And with the emergence of a BRICS currency it'll get easier.

This is why many countries are rushing to decouple from the US dollar bcuz of complications like this.

As long as it is the US currency, they will always have a say in how or where anyone uses it.

This is the reason why BRICS became popular in the first place. Many countries, including US allies became uncomfortable with one country controlling everyone's finance.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 11:35am On Jun 30
Vic2023:
olodo bring the link that says UN stopped isreal from defeating Hezbollah

Has IDF implement the UN resolution on Gaza war?
IDF withdraw bcs of their casualties simple!

Shey na casualties den dey take judge the winners? If so na Hitler wins WW3






Only you ask for link still post pictures wey say UN brokered a peace deal between Israel and Hezbollah.

Omo you dense oh before the peace deal eh go and check the casualties of both side check territories captured by both side (other one side was only lossing lands not gaining them) check which side could not make use of their ports and waterway because of a blockade. Check the peace deal Hezbollah agreed to and why.

Then come back and say who stop who from defeating who.

Because if not for UN peace deal the Hezbollah you see now you would have seen them no more and maybe israel would have annexed southern Lebanon.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 11:37am On Jun 30
Lawag3:



Oya explain how the genocide in Gaza is happening.


Genocide that have been happening since 1948 and Palestinian population still dey go up.

Abi na only their own genocide dey double population?


No Genocide in Gaza casualties of war isnt genocide.


It took less than a month for Hitler to kill almost 500k Jews when it was done 6 in 10 european Jews were dead.


Less than two months in Rwanda and the Tutsis were nearly exterminated.



The Sandinistas reduced the Contras to mere thousands individual.



And the Gaza genocide going on for over 70 years have only doubled their population turning GAZA into the most densely populated place in the world.





mumu! Lemme bring you the definition of genocide
Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more
genocide
noun
the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.
"a campaign of genocide"
Similar:
racial killing
massacre
wholesale slaughter
mass slaughter

According to what we are witnessing in Gaza with this definition, Who is committing genocide?

US official says Hamas committed genocide in October 7, with less than 2k casualties,so what can we call what IDF is doing right now in Gaza?

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 11:38am On Jun 30
after many attempts to debunk the news, and making insulting remarks. "It is now the banks will always find away around it"

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Cc Tiopii

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 11:41am On Jun 30
Lawag3:



Only you ask for link still post pictures wey say UN brokered a peace deal between Israel and Hezbollah.

Omo you dense oh before the peace deal eh go and check the casualties of both side check territories captured by both side (other one side was only lossing lands not gaining them) check which side could not make use of their ports and waterway because of a blockade. Check the peace deal Hezbollah agreed to and why.

Then come back and say who stop who from defeating who.

Because if not for UN peace deal the Hezbollah you see now you would have seen them no more and maybe israel would have annexed southern Lebanon.


you get time oo
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 11:46am On Jun 30
"China on the order of the US is sanctioning Russia"

It is still in the original statement the doofus made. It was written bold and clear for all who can read.

Okay, now bring us links of China sanctioning Russia at US behest? We are waiting...!

Even a halfwit knows that China and everyone for that matter will have alot of obstacles dealing with Russia. Because the US will always have absolute control over its currency. No one has ever denied that.

Putin himself says it everyday

That's what sanctions means. Restricting the flow of the US dollars for all parties involved and then penalizing those who don't comply.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 11:51am On Jun 30
⚡Units of the "Center" group of troops, as a result of successful actions, took control of the settlement of Novoaleksandrovka in the DPR - Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 11:54am On Jun 30
Vic2023:
mumu! Lemme bring you the definition of genocide
Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more
genocide
noun
the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.
"a campaign of genocide"
Similar:
racial killing
massacre
wholesale slaughter
mass slaughter

According to what we are witnessing in Gaza with this definition, Who is committing genocide?

US official says Hamas committed genocide in October 7, with less than 2k casualties,so what can we call what IDF is doing right now in Gaza?

Good a large number of people abi.



Jewish genocide - 60-70% of Jews in Europe killed


Rwandan genocide - almost half of the Tutsis dead

Contra genocide- almost 80 percent of contras were killed


Cambodian genocide - 50% of Cambodians killed


Spanish genocide against native American people - some groups were completely wiped out


Genocide against Bosnia Muslims - 40-45% killed


China's genocide against Uighur Muslims - forced abortions, jailed about a million in prison for just being Muslims majority of Uighur children are in government boarding schools by force reduce the population by 40% and the Death of over 100k Uighur Muslims.


Palestinian genocide since 1948 - Palestinian population triple from less than five million to almost 14 million Palestinians


Current Gazan genocide - less than 1% of the population dead. the dead including hamas fighters ( GAZA is one of the most densely populated area in the world)


While 3 million Germans died in World War II Isn't a genocide.

Ogbeni shift.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 11:57am On Jun 30
obedience4:


you get time oo

I get time to impart sense into their skulls.


But their skull too thick. I might as well give up sha.

Too much historical inaccuracy and lies they formulate to jerk off to.

This guys are something else.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 12:03pm On Jun 30
first of all I don't care about what transpired between you both, neither do I care about the choice of vocabulary used.

my bone of contention was that he posted that Chinese banks were restricting doing business with Russia, and you called it fake news and made insulting remarks.

the reason the Chinese banks are doing what they are doing is because of "secondary sanctions" the USA threatened to sanction them hence they had to comply with it or risk sanctions, although they were not "ordered" to but they did what they did because of the USA.


let me end by quoting CNBC
👇
U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken, after meeting China’s top diplomat Wang Yi for five and a half hours in Beijing on Friday, said he had expressed “serious concern” that Beijing was “powering Russia’s brutal war of aggression against Ukraine”.
Still, his visit, which included meeting President Xi Jinping, was the latest in a series of steps that have tempered the public acrimony that drove relations between the world’s biggest economies to historic lows last year.
While officials have warned that the United States was ready to take action against Chinese financial institutions facilitating trade in goods with dual civilian and military applications and the U.S. preliminarily has discussed sanctions on some Chinese banks, a U.S. official told Reuters last week.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dvkot(m): 12:03pm On Jun 30
WriteerNg:



Abeg.


I dey hear China reject this deal, reject that deal.

Which deal be that one?

Which Russian deal China reject?

No mention of this rejected deal anywhere. No single link to such deal anywhere.


So where the mumu get that info from?


Abi na just imagination wan finish the werey.
even if China rejects a deal is it a big deal?
Several Europeans countries have rejected some US sanctions against Russia. So if Russia approaches China with a deal that doesn't benefit China, of course they will reject it.
Each of those nations put their country first and tries to make a win-win deal so what's the big deal?

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 12:08pm On Jun 30
Lawag3:


I get time to impart sense into their skulls.


Both their skull too thick. I might as well give up sha.

Too much historical inaccuracy and lies they formulate to jerk off to.

This guys are something else.


😂😂
I wish you success in your attempt, but it would be a waste of time trust me
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 12:17pm On Jun 30
⚡🇸🇬 Kishore Mahbubani, Former President of the United Nations Security Council:

"The one country that has studied the collapse of the Soviet Union more carefully than any other is China.

China knows that the dream of the United States is to make China the second Soviet Union that collapses.


So, how does China prevent a collapse?

First, the Soviet Union didn't collapse because of external pressures; it collapsed because of internal weaknesses.

China realizes, 'To make sure I survive, I must have a very strong, dynamic economy and a strong, dynamic society.'

By the way, there was a very famous American thinker, George Kennan, who said way back in 1949, very presciently, that at the end of the day, the outcome of the contest between the United States and the Soviet Union will depend not on our weapons and troops, but on which society has greater spiritual vibrancy inside.

The United States' society was far more dynamic than the Soviet Union's.

The United States thrived, and the Soviet Union collapsed.


The Chinese know that the first priority is to ensure a strong economy and a strong society, which is why they are massively educating their people and growing their economy so they don't become a second Soviet Union.

The second thing the Chinese learned from the collapse of the Soviet Union was that the United States succeeded because it managed to get many of the neighbors of the Soviet Union to join the containment policy everywhere: Western Europe, Japan, South Korea—both ends of the Soviet Union.

What did the Chinese do?

They launched a preemptive strike against a containment policy by making sure that their neighbors depended on the Chinese economy.

For example, Singapore is part of Southeast Asia and part of an organization called ASEAN.

ASEAN started as a pro-American organization.

In fact, when ASEAN was created on August 8, 1967, both the Soviet Union and China denounced its creation as a pro-American organization.


It's true; ASEAN was pro-American and pro-Western.

What was stunning was that even though ASEAN was pro-American and pro-Western (and we have longer dialogues with the United States, the European Union, Australia, and Japan), none of our Western friends proposed a free trade agreement to ASEAN.

The first country to propose a free trade agreement to ASEAN was China in 2000, and the impact of that China-ASEAN agreement was phenomenal.

In the year 2000, ASEAN trade with the United States was $135 billion, while trade with China was only $40 billion. U.S. trade was more than three and a half times that of China's trade with ASEAN.

However, as a result of the free trade agreement, by 2022, ASEAN trade with the United States increased to $450-500 billion (an increase of over three times), while China's trade with ASEAN skyrocketed from $40 billion to $975 billion, almost a trillion dollars—the world's largest trading relationship in 2022.


Now, there's no way ASEAN can join a containment policy against its largest trading partner. It's crazy.

That's part of the Chinese strategy.

I'll mention a third point very quickly.

Take the Belt and Road Initiative that China has launched, building infrastructure in all corners of the world. What does that mean?

Every country in the world says, 'Oh, this infrastructure is good,' 'I need Chinese fast trains,' 'I need Chinese highways,' and then, would you join a containment policy? No.

This shows that China has systematically worked out a grand strategy.

At the same time, the Chinese also have a lot of respect for the United States.

They understand that the United States is a remarkable power, and so their challenge, even with all this strategy, is that they cannot underestimate what the United States can eventually do."

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 12:27pm On Jun 30
⚡European Union Foreign Policy Chief:

The alliance between Russia and China could divide the world.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 12:33pm On Jun 30
⚡Russian journalist Yuriy Podolyaka:

The first visit of the Indian prime minister after his re-election will be to Russia...

And that speaks volumes about the country's top priority for the coming years.

The US was very keen to bring India into its camp. Indeed, it has been offered to replace China in the global economy. And that is a huge investment and opportunity. But the Indians know that this is bait.

After the US has dealt with Russia and China, it will declare India a new world evil without emotion or remorse, with all the consequences for it.

That is why Modi will fly to Moscow. He will fly defiantly. To show that India too is against the US monopoly on world power.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 12:35pm On Jun 30
obedience4:


you guys are funny ooo, using the quote of an ex IDF officer as the yardstick to judge the WAR, the ex iDF officer opinion is subjective and can't be use as the benchmark to gauge the WAR.

Here is president bush own opinion about the war,
I quote
In the aftermath of the conflict US President George Bush said that Hezbollah was responsible for starting the war, and that the group suffered a defeat at the hands of Israel.He dismissed claims of victory by Hezbollah leaders, asking: "how can you claim victory when at one time you were a state within a state, safe within southern Lebanon, and now you're going to be replaced by a Lebanese Army and an international force?.

so individuals opinion are subjective and hold no water.

Some fact can't be disputed thou.
1 the IDF killed more hazebollah militants, than hazebollah killed IDF forces.

2 more civilians died in Lebanon than in isreal .

3 hazebollah lost control of southern Lebanon, IDF retained its territories and took more settlement now know as part of northern Isreal.

4 a UN backed international military force was deployed in Lebanon further underwhelming the power of hazebollah.



answer to your undisputed fact
Fact 1&2 : when does it start to be using civilian & military casualties to judge the winner?
Vietnam has more casualties and he won
Soviet Union has more casualties and he won
Taliban has more casualties than he won

Your third fact: can you brings the links that says IDF captured such territory you claimed

Fourth: na nonsense

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 12:36pm On Jun 30
⚡Ye in Moscow.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 12:40pm On Jun 30
WriteerNg:
⚡Europe Union Foreign Policy Chief:

The alliance between Russia and China could divide the world.


But but China is rejecting Russia to please the West 🤣🤣

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 12:46pm On Jun 30
Vic2023:
answer to your undisputed fact
Fact 1&2 : when does it start to be using civilian & military casualties to judge the winner?
Vietnam has more casualties and he won
Soviet Union has more casualties and he won
Taliban has more casualties than he won

Your third fact: can you brings the links that says IDF captured such territory you claimed

Fourth: na nonsense

you really have a thick skull
since you have disputed my facts kindly bring yours

or is your proof is that one unnamed ex IDF officer said Isreal lost the WAR.
?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 12:50pm On Jun 30
Lawag3:



My Man nothing in your link said anything about kings leading the Arab Army.


And we are talking about the war of 1948

maybe you are feeling sleepy,bcs I'm the one that makes that claim

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 12:50pm On Jun 30
OkpaNsukkaisBae:



But but China is rejecting Russia to please the West 🤣🤣


It's just like wishing and waiting in vain for western european countries to reject US friendship after everything the US has done for them. Rebuilding their country after WWII being one of them.


Russia's nuclear umbrella protected China up until it built its own nukes, still with Russia's help. The United States had plans to nuke China but were afraid of Russia's reaction.

For that alone China is eternally grateful to Russia.


It is an alliance forged in blood and shared values.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 12:57pm On Jun 30
Vic2023:
maybe you are feeling sleepy,bcs I'm the one that makes that claim


Yeah so many idiots. I now see all you idiots as one. You guys seemingly share a hive mind.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 12:59pm On Jun 30
⚡NATO officials have "strong suspicions" that Russia may have mined critical EU submarine infrastructure in the North Sea, the British newspaper The Times reported.

According to the publication, such fears are based on data obtained from companies managing key oil and gas rigs, pipelines, electricity and telecommunications cables.

Electricity and telephone cables, as well as oil and gas pipelines, were key targets for Russian intelligence services, especially after the start of Russia's full-scale military invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, the article states.

According to the Belgian security services, no evidence of cable mining in Belgian or Dutch territorial waters in the North Sea was found. However, at the beginning of the war in Ukraine, explosives were found on one of the British cables.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 1:01pm On Jun 30
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMrhNkbev/


Watch devastating method Russia used to destroy Ukraine military men by using Soviet tanks that Ukraine also uses
It been reported

That a russian tank , but the Ukrainian soldiers thought it's their tank , when it got close it shots them all

those where Ukrainian soldiers who thought the tank was Ukrainian but it was a russian tank which opened fire at them

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 1:07pm On Jun 30
⚡In China, the Tianlong-3 orbital launch vehicle crashed during testing.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 1:10pm On Jun 30
The NATO doctrine allows for the deployment of forces outside the alliance territory if the supply of resources is threatened, as part of the broader mission to ensure the security of member states.

That means they are allowed to intervene anywhere to protect something that does not belong to them.

A clear source that describes the NATO doctrine in the context of operations to protect supply lines and resources outside the territory of member states is the NATO Strategic Concept of 2010. This document highlights the expanded role of NATO after the Cold War and the attacks of September 11, 2001.


The 2010 Strategic Concept, officially known as "Active Engagement, Modern Defence," outlines the broader security interests of NATO member states and states that NATO must respond to threats that may arise from outside the alliance territory. It also emphasizes the importance of energy supply and other critical resources.

An excerpt from the 2010 Strategic Concept:

1. Paragraph 19: "Some NATO countries will become more dependent on imported energy, and much of the world’s energy supplies are likely to be increasingly concentrated in few regions. As a consequence, energy supplies and their transit areas will be of growing strategic importance."


2. Paragraph 20: "Allies will engage actively to enhance international security, through partnership with relevant countries and other international organisations. They will ensure that NATO has the full range of capabilities necessary to deter and defend against any threat to the safety and security of our populations."

These paragraphs clarify that NATO is prepared to take measures to protect energy supplies and other critical resources, even if this means operations outside the traditional NATO area.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 1:12pm On Jun 30
Lawag3:



Only you ask for link still post pictures wey say UN brokered a peace deal between Israel and Hezbollah.

Omo you dense oh before the peace deal eh go and check the casualties of both side check territories captured by both side (other one side was only lossing lands not gaining them) check which side could not make use of their ports and waterway because of a blockade. Check the peace deal Hezbollah agreed to and why.

Then come back and say who stop who from defeating who.

Because if not for UN peace deal the Hezbollah you see now you would have seen them no more and maybe israel would have annexed southern Lebanon.

You said UN stopped IDF from defeating Hezbollah and I asked for the proof !
Pls I need the proof
If truly UN stopped IDF then and he stopped, why did it not stopped when UN stopped him this time around?
This 2 question must be answered

According to my research Israel withdraw from Lebanon bcs of their casualties,

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 1:19pm On Jun 30
⚡Yemen's Houthis release footage showing Tufan-1 kamikaze USV strike targeting Greek-owned bulk carrier vessel TRANSWORLD Navigator on June 23.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 1:34pm On Jun 30
Vic2023:
You said UN stopped IDF from defeating Hezbollah and I asked for the proof !
Pls I need the proof
If truly UN stopped IDF then and he stopped, why did it not stopped when UN stopped him this time around?
This 2 question must be answered

According to my research Israel withdraw from Lebanon bcs of their casualties,

The IDF casualties were less than 300 more soilders have died in Gaza.

Did the UN brokered a peace that ended the naval blockade and invasion of Lebanon true or false?

Did Hezbollah agree to the terms of deal? yes they agreed to move beyond the litani River and for UN troops to be in between Hezbollah troops and Israel. So israel agreed and redrew their forces.


Israel says they will end the war in Gaza when Hamas disbands and all the hostages are released unconditionally. Hamas haven't done that have they?

According to your research how many IDF solders died?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 1:39pm On Jun 30
Lawag3:


Good a large number of people abi.



Jewish genocide - 60-70% of Jews in Europe killed


Rwandan genocide - almost half of the Tutsis dead

Contra genocide- almost 80 percent of contras were killed


Cambodian genocide - 50% of Cambodians killed


Spanish genocide against native American people - some groups were completely wiped out


Genocide against Bosnia Muslims - 40-45% killed


China's genocide against Uighur Muslims - forced abortions, jailed about a million in prison for just being Muslims majority of Uighur children are in government boarding schools by force reduce the population by 40% and the Death of over 100k Uighur Muslims.


Palestinian genocide since 1948 - Palestinian population triple from less than five million to almost 14 million Palestinians


Current Gazan genocide - less than 1% of the population dead. the dead including hamas fighters ( GAZA is one of the most densely populated area in the world)


While 3 million Germans died in World War II Isn't a genocide.

Ogbeni shift.


mungun ni e

USA
UK
Isreal and
Canada recognized yazidi genocide with just 5k dead

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 1:47pm On Jun 30
obedience4:


you really have a thick skull
since you have disputed my facts kindly bring yours

or is your proof is that one unnamed ex IDF officer said Isreal lost the WAR.
?
: can you brings the links that says IDF captured such territory you claimed in 2006

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 1:52pm On Jun 30
Lawag3:


The IDF casualties were less than 300 more soilders have died in Gaza.

Did the UN brokered a peace that ended the naval blockade and invasion of Lebanon true or false?

Did Hezbollah agree to the terms of deal? yes they agreed to move beyond the litani River and for UN troops to be in between Hezbollah troops and Israel. So israel agreed and redrew their forces.


Israel says they will end the war in Gaza when Hamas disbands and all the hostages are released unconditionally. Hamas haven't done that have they?

According to your research how many IDF solders died?


I need the link

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