TradingGod:


God gave humans the free will to choose


God knows the end of every choice and He has a plan to back up every choice made


Adam and judas had a choice

Even our Lord Jesus Christ had a choice



Deuteronomy 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

Though Adam and Even had the freedom to choose between life and death, Judas had no such freedom as he was destined to betray Jesus; Judas had no other destiny.

iamoyindamola:

Chai
He can finally rest
RIP

The wife say na fake news. Baba is alive

liveLongNprospa:


Have you studied the bible that you seem to believe is the word of Jesus? Or are you repeating what you were told?

So the Bible is not the word of God? I need a straight answers not this Tom and Jerry back and forth.

BlueRayDick:


How do u save someone’s soul when u don’t even give him or her access to salvation .

Have u gone for a wedding ceremony in MFM or Deeper life before ? This people will not even allow u enter as a guy with earring /studs in ur ear;they practically bar u from entry. They judge people people with their appearance and make it seem like if u don’t pass the appearance judgement test, then u are unfit to even access the premises .

U will be surprised when u listen to sermon of those white garment churches u love to hate that their preachings is no different from that of ur regular Pentecostal church . They preach against all those ills with the hope that the “Holy Spirit “ germinate the word in ur heart and make u change .

The thing is , Pentecostals have strong bias that makes them stereotype other denominations /sects . They have this belief that they are the ones doing the religion the way Christ would approve of ; they always have something against other denominations . I know these things

Jesus Christ already answered those people who you say do these things in Matthew 7: 1 - 5. I attached the screenshot.

It's one of the reason I dont argue my church is better than yours or my religion is better than yours. Christ message is a message of love and hope. His message is called "The Good News" and it's for both sinners and the redeemed. No one is excluded.

Titus 2:11 says "For the grace of God that bringeth salvation has appeared to all men"

GrammarNazi1:


Though Adam and Even had the freedom to choose between life and death, Judas had no such freedom as he was destined to betray Jesus; Judas had no other destiny.

Yes he was destined to betray Jesus but what he did after ( committing suicide) was his own choice.

Apostle Paul also denied Jesus 3 times yet he found his way back to God.

If Judas had repented and seek God face, he would have been saved.

Harry Potter is real

Its illogical to believe in freewill and destiny at the same time. Free will is impossible if a omniscient creator exists. People try to get around it with all sorts of fancy rhetoric but in no possible world is it possible.

larride:


Jesus Christ already answered those people who you say do these things in Matthew 7: 1 - 5. I attached the screenshot.

It's one of the reason I dont argue my church is better than yours or my religion is better than yours. Christ message is a message of love and hope. His message is called "The Good News" and it's for both sinners and the redeemed. No one is excluded.

Titus 2:11 says "For the grace of God that bringeth salvation has appeared to all men"

We are saying the same thing bro .

Most Pentecostals in Nigeria don’t follow that particular passage u quoted . They see other sects as lesser Christian’s , they judge people they are supposed to show the way of salvation and they assume they are the “one true church “

This is something I watch happened from my childhood till date

arguing with atheist is a waste of time, at the end of the day make everybody believe wetin them like.

Go and verify

Bombblacks:

So the Bible is not the word of God? I need a straight answers not this Tom and Jerry back and forth.

You can't ask me for my opinion when you've refused to state if you've studied the bible at all.

How would you know if my reply is correct especially based on the bible.

BlueRayDick:


We are saying the same thing bro .

Most Pentecostals in Nigeria don’t follow that particular passage u quoted . They see other sects as lesser Christian’s , they judge people they are supposed to show the way of salvation and they assume they are the “one true church “

This is something I watch happened from my childhood till date

Yes some do it and it's totally against the teaching of Jesus.

Ballzproblemm:
arguing with atheist is a waste of time, at the end of the day make everybody believe wetin them like.

Abi. Make everybody believe wetin them believe.

Bombblacks:
Its illogical to believe in freewill and destiny at the same time. Free will is impossible if a omniscient creator exists. People try to get around it with all sorts of fancy rhetoric but in no possible world is it possible.

What do you think is the definition of freewill from the Christian context and the atheist context

liveLongNprospa:


You can't ask me for my opinion when you've refused to state if you've studied the bible at all.

How would you know if my reply is correct especially based on the bible.

Bro why are you beating around the bush. It's a straight forward question. Is the Bible Gods word? Why will a Christian be avoiding such an easy question.

liveLongNprospa:


What do you think is the definition of freewill from the Christian context and the atheist context

Freewill is the same in any context you choose to quantify it.

Bombblacks:

Bro why are you beating around the bush. It's a straight forward question. Is the Bible Gods word? Why will a Christian be avoiding such an easy question.

Because you have no shown me that you are knowledgeable enough about Christianity to challenge it's validity.
You claim it's all a hoax and yet you have shown a lack of deep knowledge other than the basic cheap points infantile atheists usually use.

Okay let me ask you this?
What are the conditions to be saved in Christianity?

liveLongNprospa:


Because you have no shown me that you are knowledgeable enough about Christianity to challenge it's validity.
You claim it's all a hoax and yet you have shown a lack of deep knowledge other than the basic cheap points infantile atheists usually use.

Okay let me ask you this?
What are the conditions to be saved in Christianity?

I really don't under understand what you have been typing and how it relates to the initial post that started this discussion. Larrid.e said christians follow Jesus and not the Bible. I replied him by saying that statement is contradictory because Christians believe the Bible is the word of God. You jumped in and still haven't answered a straight forward question. Bro is the Bible God's word? Yes or No. How the hell is that question making you beat around the bush.

Tell them to bring evidence.. They will disappear

Bombblacks:

Freewill is the same in any context you choose to quantify it.

No it's not.
And yes God has taken away freewill from 1 person in the bible.
Pharoah (who God hardened his heart after numerous pleading from moses).
For Christianity, that we say God knows the beginning to the end doesn't mean your decision made will be imposed on you. That's on you.

Bombblacks:

I really don't under understand what you have been typing and how it relates to the initial post that started this discussion. Larrid.e said christians follow Jesus and not the Bible. I replied him by saying that statement is contradictory because Christians believe the Bible is the word of God. You jumped in and still haven't answered a straight forward question. Bro is the Bible God's word? Yes or No. How the hell is that question making you beat around the bush.

And I am going further than larride to say your whole gig is your belief that it's a fake religion.
But I'm also interested in your knowledge in the religion before coming to the conclusion it is a fake religion to know if I'll respond to the question.

I am certain a Muslim will tell you in 2 seconds that yes the Qur'an is the word of Allah but here we have a Christian that can't give a straight forward answer if the Bible is God's word. Am shocked.

larride:


Abi. Make everybody believe wetin them believe.

exactly, cause no matter how much you talk e no go change their mind.


only a close encounter like Paul did on the road to Damascus will 😁.

liveLongNprospa:


No it's not.
And yes God has taken away freewill from 1 person in the bible.
Pharoah (who God hardened his heart after numerous pleading from moses).
For Christianity, that we say God knows the beginning to the end doesn't mean your decision made will be imposed on you. That's on you.

If your God knows the begining and the end plus every step you are going to take till the day you die then how exactly do you have freewill? You are following a script In a movie.

liveLongNprospa:

And I am going further than lar..ride to say your whole gig is your belief that it's a fake religion.
But I'm also interested in your knowledge in the religion before coming to the conclusion it is a fake religion to know if I'll respond to the question.

Stop conjuring narratives from thin air and stick to what I actually type. I asked la.rride a simple question that am going to ask you again. Is the Bible God's word? It's a yes or no question.

Clowns🤡 go still tell you that god gave humans free will

......damn funny video. LOL!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lHAyiUuckY?si=vJ9TaTUPphA01eM4

BlueRayDick:


How do u save someone’s soul when u don’t even give him or her access to salvation .

Have u gone for a wedding ceremony in MFM or Deeper life before ? This people will not even allow u enter as a guy with earring /studs in ur ear;they practically bar u from entry. They judge people people with their appearance and make it seem like if u don’t pass the appearance judgement test, then u are unfit to even access the premises .

U will be surprised when u listen to sermon of those white garment churches u love to hate that their preachings is no different from that of ur regular Pentecostal church . They preach against all those ills with the hope that the “Holy Spirit “ germinate the word in ur heart and make u change .

The thing is , Pentecostals have strong bias that makes them stereotype other denominations /sects . They have this belief that they are the ones doing the religion the way Christ would approve of ; they always have something against other denominations . I know these things

I know MFM don't allow ladies with trousers to enter Prayer City but in Deeper Life you can come as you are. I think they only give scarf to ladies to cover their head.

Deeper Life no really send you till want to join the workforce, then you'll conform to their standards of dressing but as a member, you can come as you are. I know this because I've attended the church.

At the end of the day, it is the content of the messages that keep or send people away. When you go to the hospital as a sick patient, you're expected to receive treatment and become whole, not how to be managing the sickness except the sickness has no cure. That's the difference.

I'll say it again, there's a reason those Yahoo boys or runs girls as you said feel comfortable and at home in places like Cele. Where the carcass is, expect the vultures there.

god of justice.. I'll rather trust Nigeria judiciary

larride:


Jesus Christ already answered those people who you say do these things in Matthew 7: 1 - 5. I attached the screenshot.

It's one of the reason I dont argue my church is better than yours or my religion is better than yours. Christ message is a message of love and hope. His message is called "The Good News" and it's for both sinners and the redeemed. No one is excluded.

Titus 2:11 says "For the grace of God that bringeth salvation has appeared to all men"

You know that Titus you quoted continued.....

Titus 2:11-12 (NIV) | “For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people. It teaches us to say 'No' to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age"

3 yellows in 15mins. What's happening?