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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Laurene: 10:54pm On Jul 01 |
happney65:Spewing left-wing conspiracy theories and talking points. All these has been debunked including the fine people hoax and drink bleach nonsense. Give it up dude 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 10:58pm On Jul 01 |
ijebosb: Your example was a bad example. If a president is impeached, it is because their act is considered to be "Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors. U.S. Const. art. II, § 4", which is illegal and not an official act, so they can be prosecuted, is what you miss. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 10:58pm On Jul 01 |
budaatum: Let them continue to trade in unreasonable things Yes Trump can classify fvcking Stormy as an official act and court will agree with him Any other ridiculous take is welcome 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 10:59pm On Jul 01 |
budaatum: Since the rule was made today I expect Trump to declare himself president tomorrow and Biden to announce he has won the November election since that's what they claim the scotus said 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 11:06pm On Jul 01 |
raumdeuter: I hate dump so much I can't write his name right, so I've written to Biden to use his official powers to just cancel the November election and declare his second term starts now. "We just have to remember who the hell we are. We are the United States of America. There is nothing — nothing, nothing — beyond our capacity — nothing — when we do it together. And we plan on doing that. You’re allowing me to do that". President Joe Biden. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 11:08pm On Jul 01 |
happney65: And at the end of the say who was sitting in the white house on January 22 2021? tell me what you expect the judment to have said that will make you happy? 1. All acts of the president are protected under immunity or 2. All act of the president are NOT protectd under immunity 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 11:11pm On Jul 01 |
budaatum: Is this so hard to comprehend? Is it really that hard? |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 11:11pm On Jul 01 |
raumdeuter: Not what they are saying since he is not holding the office at the moment. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 11:13pm On Jul 01 |
budaatum: Let me add some what if scenarios too What if President Biden snatch someones wife What if he eats Banga and fufu in oval office What if he declares Nigeria the winner of the next world cup These are the what ifs that SCOTUS told you to go sort out at the lower courts, when you cannot, bring specific cases to them 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 11:16pm On Jul 01 |
raumdeuter: All the things they say the president can get away with, there is a constitution that says otherwise 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 11:17pm On Jul 01 |
Laurene: its ridiculous and laughable how low they sink at times Trump said Its going to be a bloobath at the border, Yaay Trump is threatening murder, So when Anyone uses Bloodbath in a statement it means mass murder e.g Pep Guardiola promises bloodbath at Old trafford stadium Trump said if only we can inject bleach into their veins. Yayyy Trump told people to inject bleach Me telling them if only I can open your head and put this book Yayyy Ramdeuter wants to use axe to split open peoples head They must really think their supporters are stupid 4 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 11:19pm On Jul 01 |
These same people will be like, trumps own supreme Court ruled against him or won't take election case. Then when a ruling like this happens they remind us it is trumps supreme Court again. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 11:19pm On Jul 01 |
happney65: A president doesnt define what is official or not. The office has rules So can Trump say tomorrow Federal reserve Bank should move all their asset into Trump Bank account? Since we are dealing with ridiculousness now 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 11:40pm On Jul 01 |
budaatum: Can I be honest, you sound as if you don't have enough understanding of this topic to even post remotely intelligently on it. This post is silly. It's clear u don't understand immunity or impeachment. Impeachment is a political process. Immunity means no one can prosecute him. I can repeat this a nother 5 times and you'll continue repeating the same lie. Do some reading on this topic because u are spreading misinformation. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 11:53pm On Jul 01 |
ijebosb: I read. In the United States, impeachment is a remedial rather than penal process,[14][15]: 8 intended to "effectively 'maintain constitutional government' by removing individuals unfit for office";[15]: 8 persons subject to impeachment and removal remain "liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law."[15] Explain how a president is immune from the bold please. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 12:03am On Jul 02 |
budaatum: Immunity supersedes everything. Once something is immune, nothing can change that. It's similar to the lawyer client privilege and doctor patient privilege. But in those cases there are exceptions. The Supreme Court decided that this immunity is almost sacosant. It has to do with the separation of powers as well. So, the Supreme Court decided that the president's ability to make bold decisions as long as it's via some official act is more important than any laws that may be broken. As to impeachment, is is largely a political process. The congress mostly decides what constitutes high Crimes and Misdemeanors. Now a president can be inpeached for an official act because Congress just doesnt agree with. In fact it doesn't have to be even illegal per se. Once a president is impeached and removed they can be charged and convicted. Buy now the Supreme Court just bestowed immunity for official acts. So even if they are impeached and removed. As long as it's an official act they won't be prosecuted. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 12:44am On Jul 02 |
ijebosb:Let us assume this view above is true. Are you asking buda to have so little faith that a line won't be drawn by We The People when the president of the United States stands immune on Fifth Avenue and shoots someone? ijebosb:Just heard this on CNN too, but its not an understanding I share and its based on the sky falling, a feeling I know you share. Dump is the first president ever in almost 250 years to have been indicted for crimes in office, and even if he wins in November and does lots more crimes, his time will be done and be over and 2 in 250 years is good innings, the like I'd bet money on. If my country Nigeria hit those sort of odds, I'd say we done good. You said "this Supreme Court does not represent the majority", and thankfully, that majority is determined at elections by We The People voting. If We The People want our president to be immune for ordering the National Guard to shoot people, a thing I see dump doing when we Black Lives Matter and My Body My Choice and Charleston, then that's what we'd elect. And if We The People don't want that sort of president we'd elect someone else. Or is We The People now so maga that no one would see the emperor is naked in the United States of America? The fear bit I do understand I daresay. If Biden had done a good debate, this judgement would have been a win I'm sure. But we now on wobbly ground come November, sadly. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:11am On Jul 02 |
Biden ended his speech with the more appropriate rally call for Liberal Democrats, as opposed to a dumptatorship. November we decide if We The People dissent.
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 2:11am On Jul 02 |
budaatum: If that's not ur understanding, your understanding is wrong. At this point, you are arguing the definition of immunity or simply don't understood the ruling. It's the top line summation of the decision. PDGguy posted a summation of the ruling. PDPGuy: Here is a good thread if you want to understand why your "We the People" argument falls flat. https://x.com/Mike_Podhorzer/status/1807816938589991189 |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:50am On Jul 02 |
The full sentence of PDPguy post is important not just half of it PDPGuy: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 4:14am On Jul 02 |
raumdeuter: What in your mind do you think the full sections adds vis a vis the point I was making? You've been consistently wrong about this since the ruling came out. Why don't you go and spend some time reading it instead of playing gotcha with someone who actually does understand it. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 4:22am On Jul 02 |
ijebosb: The part in bold is the most important part of the statement which you mischievously left out The President has absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for actions within his conclusive and preclusive constitutional authority. Tell Justice Roberts you understand better than him
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 4:39am On Jul 02 |
raumdeuter: Can I be honest. I don't think you understand any of this enough to even begin to discuss it. You spent the first half of the day arguing that somehow a Potus's motivitation was relevant in deciding whether an act was official. It isnt and you didnt stop making the argument until I showed you Robert's exact words from the ruling saying the opposite. Now you want to act like an expert again? I'm still not sure what point you think u are making. I'm sure you're not sure either. But for some reason you want to interject. I've already schooled you once today. It was Budatuums turn. I generally have patience for one schooling per person per day. You can come back tomm. if you want to get schooled again. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 4:42am On Jul 02 |
ijebosb: why is it that it is only you that understand? budaatum oya enrol on this tuition-free institution. come and learn 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 4:47am On Jul 02 |
bemeruca: You tell me. Has anything I've posted on this topic been wrong? Point to it. In relation to you, because ur an idiot. Otherwise, ask God why he gave me that ability to quickly break down and understand concepts others like u seem to struggle with. Ur focus should be why you have a hard time understanding not so complex things and feel the need to lie often. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 4:57am On Jul 02 |
ijebosb: Many, like saying the president can order his boys to kill his political opponent and be immune even if the Constitution does not allow that. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Laurene: 5:47am On Jul 02 |
Who noticed Biden looked tanned during the speech... The new orange man? 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 5:52am On Jul 02 |
ijebosb: The below is the conclusion of the post you selectively quoted: PDPGuy: And here is a further post by the same person where Secret Service is (use of) "official duty". PDPGuy: 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 7:01am On Jul 02 |
ijebosb: https://www.weekendreading.net/p/tipping-the-scales-the-maga-justices The link above is from you tweet showing this goes back to Bush v Gore, and that I've been observing since the 39th. You should have seen me Tea Party. It felt like my world would end then Obama. The United States of America is a democracy of We The People who elect those who govern, so if We The People want a shoot people kind of president that's what gets elected, and if they don't want they vote something else. It really is as simple as that in my view. Good thing now is more eyes get to see what's being going on and get to decide if they want it.
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 7:22am On Jul 02 |
Messy for demonrats. The racial monster they bred is eating them alive like hyenas and wild dogs feast on their prey before it's dead Kamala Harris’s team is concerned that Democrats will install a white candidate ahead of her to replace Joe Biden, arguing that it would be “offensive” to black voters to overlook her should the president stand aside. Donna Brazille former DNC chair who gave Hillary questions ahead of a presidential debate in 2016 also thinks the optics of replacing a blek with a white are not good. Popcorn time . |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 7:28am On Jul 02 |
Trump also filed a motion to dismiss Alvin Bragg case against him in the wake of the SCOTUS ruling. He argues the trial used privelleged comms to make it's case. Bragg did not release sentencing guidelines as expected yesterday. Sham cases withering up or going up in smoke. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 7:37am On Jul 02 |
bemeruca: Gaslighting. |
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