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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 7:31pm On Jul 03
BlueRayDick:


Look at things this way:

1. The man in question assaulted his wife ( based on his own account he gave online by himself)

2. The issue at best is a case of domestic violence which the appropriate authorities are handling as we speak .

3. The Kiki lady asking other women who may have been abused by him to speak out is out of order as far as the case is concerned . She is at best someone who either on a personal campaign against the man in question or against just want to chase clout .

4. The man is married to one woman whom he’s being accused of assaulting . Who are the other women Kiki is calling out to come forward ? Are those women married to him ? What will their testimony(if any ) do to his ongoing domestic violence case ?

5. If remove every bias and look at the Kiki move , u will see it is done in bad taste . It is not about she championing a case against domestic violence ; it goes beyond that
Before feminists use you to run agenda, you'd have played into their hands.

It's not feminists that told him to snitch on himself, they were not the ones that told him to call in a radio station making needless justifications... They're not the ones that have told him to posture the way he has since this thing happened.

Jarus don dey social media since forever, he should know better...no be today feminists don begin run agenda. Jarus has made himself another scapegoat of their agenda.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:35pm On Jul 03
Theflint1:
Before feminists use you to run agenda, you'd have played into their hands.

It's not feminists that told him to snitch on himself, they were not the ones that told him to call in a radio station making needless justifications... They're not the ones that have told him to posture the way he has since this thing happened.

Jarus don dey social media since forever, he should know better...no be today feminists don begin run agenda. Jarus has made himself another scapegoat of their agenda.

Nobody said he didn’t mess up with the initial tweets that led to this . That has already been established from inception .

But u trying to make it seem like the Kiki lady has any point to prove with that move is what is baffling at this point .

Her call out won’t change anything . The testimonies of whoever comes out won’t change the outcome of the case . She’s just chasing clout

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 7:55pm On Jul 03
BlueRayDick:


Nobody said he didn’t mess up with the initial tweets that led to this . That has already been established from inception .

But u trying to make seem like the Kiki lady has any point to prove with that move is what is baffling at this point .

Her call out won’t change anything . The testimonies of whoever comes out won’t change the outcome of the case . She’s just chasing clout
You can't divorce Jarus' handling of his issue with the extent and dimension of agenda that's being run with it.

Jarus isn't the first person that's been involved in DV, it's quite frankly normal sef, but it's not everyday you have people involved in such issues acting the way Jarus has.

Abi you don see another man involved in DV making posts like this?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 7:56pm On Jul 03
BlueRayDick:


Nobody said he didn’t mess up with the initial tweets that led to this . That has already been established from inception .

But u trying to make it seem like the Kiki lady has any point to prove with that move is what is baffling at this point .

Her call out won’t change anything . The testimonies of whoever comes out won’t change the outcome of the case . She’s just chasing clout

What if you get people who say he did more to them?
Would you call Kiki evil? 😁
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 7:57pm On Jul 03
Theflint1:
You can't divorce Jarus' handling of his issue from the extent of agenda that's being run with it, Jarus isn't the first person that's been involved in DV, it's quite frankly normal sef, but it's not everyday you have people involved in such issues acting the way Jarus has, going to the extent of calling in radio stations to make justifications for their involvement in DV.

Exactly.
You beat your wife, you confess, you still dey show arrogance and pepper body and you expect women not to think there has to be a reason you are that confident.

I mean anyone would think "hmm, what else has he gotten away with"

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 7:59pm On Jul 03
The Govt is introducing a 7.5 VAT on transaction fees of crypto transaction of exchanges listed in Nigeria.

They should've done this way earlier and ensure all these exchanges are properly regulated instead of chasing them around.

Doubt Binance and the rest will come back to the country now.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 8:00pm On Jul 03
liveLongNprospa:


What if you get people who say he did more to them?
Would you call Kiki evil? 😁

And you'd just believe he did because?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 8:02pm On Jul 03
larride:


And you'd just believe he did because?

You know I won't without evidence. The person needs to present it
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 8:06pm On Jul 03
liveLongNprospa:


Exactly.
You beat your wife, you confess, you still dey show arrogance and pepper body and you expect women not to think there has to be a reason you are that confident.

I mean anyone would think "hmm, what else has he gotten away with"
Exactly, its the logical progression of the issue, the only reason we can think it being impossible is how long we've known him and the sentiments involved, another random person and you'd understand why things have progressed the way they have.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by User09: 8:12pm On Jul 03
Android17:
Hitting any woman does not constitute to abuse. Society generally frowns upon it but if Jay-Z had shoved Solange Knowles it would have been self-defense not abuse.

Spot the difference.

I'm all for transparency in issues like this especially when they highlight multiple failings even if it's by both(multiple) parties.

If you want to be totally honest about the issues, You also have to look at the self defense angle. The man said his life was under threat when she sat on his neck. I mean since we are going by his self confessed account. Why highlight, believe one, push an outcry and ignore the other.

Isnt it fairness we are seeking here, or is this some sort of retribution?

Why would you introduce external accusations to a case?. Create phantom multiple victims just for retributive purpose.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:14pm On Jul 03
liveLongNprospa:


What if you get people who say he did more to them?
Would you call Kiki evil? 😁

Which people ? The people not married to him who want to testify in a domestic violence case against him ?

Do u even understand the context of this discussion ?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 8:15pm On Jul 03
larride:
The Govt is introducing a 7.5 VAT on transaction fees of crypto transaction of exchanges listed in Nigeria.

They should've done this way earlier and ensure all these exchanges are properly regulated instead of chasing them around.

Doubt Binance and the rest will come back to the country now.
These assholes punish us for crypto and still wan chop the money
I don’t see how it won’t choke them
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by pamcode(m): 8:15pm On Jul 03
User09:


I have a theory on the bolded based on what i've observed especially in this modern era

1. Money - The Married guy tends to be older and (likely) richer; and most of all will pay a premium cos of his disadvantage

2. Casting - He has his reputation/marriage to protect, so she feels safer knowing the unlikelihood of her being casted would happen. Almost like how celebrities/famous people cheat with each other rather than with outsiders.

3. Semblance of Perceived experience and care - I mean, he's already married and been there and what not. So why not?

4. Covetousness - A bit of a weak point but this one I've observed in real life. The want/taste of what the other woman has. Psychologist will probably have better explanations

Your personal theory or a copied theory brah?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 8:17pm On Jul 03
So if Jarus slapped a female pickpocket that tried to gbe his iPhone, and she came forth because Kiki asked, it is justified abi?

That one na abuse, shey?

Wetin una dey side with sef?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by User09: 8:18pm On Jul 03
pamcode:


Your personal theory or a copied theory brah?

Copied from where??

My first line in the message answers your question
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 8:20pm On Jul 03
Theflint1:
You can't divorce Jarus' handling of his issue with the extent and dimension of agenda that's being run with it.

Jarus isn't the first person that's been involved in DV, it's quite frankly normal sef, but it's not everyday you have people involved in such issues acting the way Jarus has.

Abi you don see another man involved in DV making posts like this?

this is actually why ceos and businesses have professional media handlers
your unfiltered views should be shared in among friends not in a public , westernized space
if jarus was still in employed this would have reached a we request your resignation level

as it is it will be hard for him to find sponsors for any event going forward.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:21pm On Jul 03
Theflint1:
Exactly, its the logical progression of the issue, the only reason we can think it being impossible is how long we've known him and the sentiments involved, another random person and you'd understand why things have progressed the way they have.

So the judge will say “In the case of state Vs Jarus where Mrs Jarus (the alleged victim of a crime )has refuted a crime ever happened ; the defendant (Mr Jarus) is convicted of domestic violence based on the evidence of random people who were never married to him , not his ex partners , not his family , friends and relatives “

Do u even know what is domestic violence ?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 8:24pm On Jul 03
BlueRayDick:


Which people ? The people not married to him who want to testify in a domestic violence case against him ?

Do u even understand the context of this discussion ?
Who says the Kiki isn't looking to escalate the issue beyond a simple case of DV?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 8:26pm On Jul 03
BlueRayDick:


So the judge will say “In the case of state Vs Jarus where Mrs Jarus (the alleged victim of a crime )has refuted a crime ever happened ; the defendant (Mr Jarus) is convicted of domestic violence based on the evidence of random people who were never married to him , not his ex partners , not his family , friends and relatives “

Do u even know what is domestic violence ?
Kiki saw the video of his wife laughing with him, she knows that most likely that's a dead end, and that's why she's looking for other persons.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:27pm On Jul 03
Theflint1:
Who says the Kiki isn't looking to escalate the issue beyond a simple case of DV?

Now u are back to the point where this whole discussion from . If Kiki is looking to escalate the issue beyond what it is, then she has an agenda against the man.

It is as simple as that .

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:29pm On Jul 03
Theflint1:
Kiki saw the video of his wife laughing with him, she knows that most likely that's a dead end, and that's why she's looking for other persons.

Is the original case not about Husband vs Wife ?

Now that Husband vs Wife angle is dead, Kiki no go rest ? Which unalive end she wan resurrect ?

Ask urself
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 8:32pm On Jul 03
Theflint1:
Who says the Kiki isn't looking to escalate the issue beyond a simple case of DV?

Which it's why what she's doing is demonic.

At the very least, she's encouraging people to come forward with stories to ruin the man, whether they are substantiated or not.

DSVA is the Domestic and Sexual Violence Agency. This is the agency she is calling people to report their abuse to. Not the police. The DSVA.

We know there's no other DV case coming, so even the simplest of minds can see what Kiki is looking for.

This is what they call Emere behaviour. Senior Ogbanje doings.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 8:44pm On Jul 03
nihilistjnr:


Which it's why what she's doing is demonic.

At the very least, she's encouraging people to come forward with stories to ruin the man, whether they are substantiated or not.

DSVA is the Domestic and Sexual Violence Agency. This is the agency she is calling people to report their abuse to. Not the police. The DSVA.

We know there's no other DV case coming, so even the simplest of minds can see what Kiki is looking for.

This is what they call Emere behaviour. Senior Ogbanje doings.
Lagos DSVA isn't restricted to just husband and wife or boyfriend/girlfriend wahala.

Her ogbanje behavior, na today e start? Abi Jarus just dey hear say feminists dey online and Dem like issues of this nature? Her ogbanje behavior is not why Jarus was calling in radio stations...if you read her follow-up tweet, you'd see why she said she's choosing to go the route she is.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 8:44pm On Jul 03
iamoyindamola:

These assholes punish us for crypto and still wan chop the money
I don’t see how it won’t choke them

This is the route they should've taken with proper regulation.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 8:45pm On Jul 03
BlueRayDick:


Is the original case not about Husband vs Wife ?

Now that Husband vs Wife angle is dead, Kiki no go rest ? Which unalive end she wan resurrect ?

Ask urself
If Jarus had gone about things more sensibly, is it possible things won't be getting to this point? Even in the call he made to the radio station, people were saying the tone of his voice sounds aggressive and he seems like someone that if they were in the same place physically he'd have attacked the radio person.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 8:48pm On Jul 03
Theflint1:
Lagos DSVA isn't restricted to just husband and wife or boyfriend/girlfriend wahala.

Her ogbanje behavior, na today e start, abi Jarus just dey hear say feminists dey online and Dem like issues like this? Her ogbanje behavior is not why Jarus was calling in radio stations...if you read her follow-up tweet, you'd see why she said she's choosing to go the route she is.

Jarus called in to the radio station to give his side of the story. Even in the call in, he explained what led to the "beating" which was him being under attack.

This doesn't justify the beating per say but that's the full context of the angle Jarus took.

Unless Kiki can get the wife to go against him, it's a dead end and should end there.

As far as we know, before this issue happened, Jarus has only been married once so I really dont know who exactly Kiki is hoping to come forward for domestic abuse. Maybe their former domestic staffs or ex girlfriends?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 8:49pm On Jul 03
GloriousGbola:


this is actually why ceos and businesses have professional media handlers
your unfiltered views should be shared in among friends not in a public , westernized space
if jarus was still in employed this would have reached a we request your resignation level

as it is it will be hard for him to find sponsors for any event going forward.
I hope people are learning from the whole thing sha, unless his business/professional affairs arent going to be western-facing, his conduct borders on career suicide.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 8:50pm On Jul 03
Theflint1:
If Jarus had gone about things more sensibly, is it possible things won't be getting to this point? Even in the call he made to the radio station, people were saying the tone of his voice sounds aggressive and he seems like someone that if they were in the same place physically he'd have attacked the radio person.

So mere conjunction and assumptions from people who already have chosen a side.

Make sense.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 8:51pm On Jul 03
larride:


Jarus called in to the radio station to give his side of the story. Even in the call in, he explained what led to the "beating" which was him being under attack.

This doesn't justify the beating per say but that's the full context of the angle Jarus took.

Unless Kiki can get the wife to go against him, it's a dead end and should end there.

As far as we know, before this issue happened, Jarus has only been married once so I really dont know who exactly Kiki is hoping to come forward for domestic abuse. Maybe their former domestic staffs or ex girlfriends?
Maybe.
It's even possible she knows asking for people to call in is a dead end, but she's taking that step either way, after all the person in question is playing right into her hands.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 8:58pm On Jul 03
larride:


So mere conjunction and assumptions from people who already have chosen a side.

Make sense.
Not really, conflict between partners where things get physical isn't unique, and if this is even Jarus' first incident, I'd say they've had a pretty solid marriage.

When things like this happen though, people try as much as possible to downplay it or keep it private, not snitch on themselves and double-down by calling in radio stations trying to give justifications that'd make your situation even look worse.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 9:08pm On Jul 03
Theflint1:
Not really, conflict between partners where things get physical isn't unique, and if this is even Jarus' first incident, I'd say they've had a pretty solid marriage.

When things like this happen though, people try as much as possible to downplay it or keep it private, not snitch on themselves and double-down by calling in radio stations trying to give justifications that'd make your situation even look worse.

Well he had to get the story straight, that's why he called in. It's better he set the record straight about the "beating" than allowing it to just fester after he already used his hands to confirm he did beat her.

Woo. Make them rest.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 9:14pm On Jul 03
what jarus should have done is take a break from SM

already odanz mishap had taken the spotlight off of him

there is an outrage every other minute

all he has to do is keep quiet and people will move on to the next calamity

this is not something you can talk your way out of

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