I would rather be Ned Nwoko the billionaire who still marry after 60 and gave birth to young boys, even tho he had oder children


Financial stability is more important than early marriage my bro, pray and work for You to be financially stable early, if you are a billionaire at 60, you have no fear of giving birth, because resources that will see the children to adulthood and have them established is already in place, generational wealth

ITbomb:

2+1

Wow.
I still tell people that my one year delay in conception was worth it as we weren't buoyant to cater for an additional person.
After delivery, I had to get a maid as I was going to resume work meaning another cost burden.
We currently have 2 persons for each child (long story).
Please don't downplay the importance of money. Children brings blessings no doubt but sir that prudent wife has breaking point if the resources are inadequate and can affect milk supply to her breast.
If a man is taking the right steps about his finances (upskilling, additional income, good job....), let him go ahead and not burden his family mbok. If my only sibling dares to get married with no good income, I would not support her.

Esthered:
Dear OP, children are COST INTENSIVE PROJECT and not age incentive project. If you're financially prepared, you wouldn't create this thread.
The average cost of a baby monthly for someone on a low budget is diapers 10,000
Formula 38000 if it's not exclusive bf.
Others like wipes, soap, cream, detergent.... 5000 to 10000.
About 60k monthly, you've not added education savings, hospital funds.....
I have a 2 yrs old and a 6 months old. Even a good woman will be frustrated if there's no money. She has to eat nutritious food to feed the baby and it must be budgeted for.
It's good to be optimistic but what if the child is a special one health wise, you'll incur more cost.
In summary, please look at your income before bringing the child into the world.
Even my Bible says who builds a house without counting the cost.

The thing here is that Nigerians nay Africans marry for childbearing sake, not companionship. That is why they practice marry today, born tomorrow ideology. How many Nigerian newly wedded couples would intentionally postpone childbearing for at least two years? And the main koko is that they like to born plenty children scatter everywhere. Born two now, two years never reach, another two don drop. Then they blame Tinubu.

MikeofKd:
I'm in my late 20s and I've been doing some pretty serious calculations lately and I figured out that birthing your kids as a man in your late 20s is super beneficial but the issue here is the bad Economy that a lot of us face in our late 20s e.g paying lots of bills , settling family members , Etc

Everyone desires for their kids to take care of them at old age , now imagine you are 60 years and your first child is still 15 years old. That jeopardizing the kid's future. Cause at age 60 your ability to work reduces significantly.

Mr franchas.officia has thoroughly explained what you need to know. My interest is the bold. Inasmuch as it is good for children to take care of their children, today's parents shouldn't wish to depend on those children for economic survival in their elderly state. I understand the structure of Nigeria's economy doesn't fully cater for pension (assuming successive govts don't squander everything), but by depending on the children, you make it difficult for them to build their economic bases. Also, you cannot predict what tomorrow's economy will look like. Those who had children during the early '90s still have to contribute to their children's stability or contribute to their well-being. Additionally, culture changes. In my opinion, the generation that will assist their parents willingly and happily is mine. The present Gen-Zs will be hesitant or some will outrightly say no.

So, it is important you plan your retirement especially as na man you be. Also, no born plenty children. That is where the economics of childbearing and raising come to play.

immortalcrown:
Your response does not counter anything in my comment. I don't know why you quoted me.

An addition to what you said.

Tallesty1:
An addition to what you said.

Okay.

Gerrard59:


No DECENT woman wants to be a baby-mama. Having a baby mama is a sign of irresponsibility. Any man who wants to turn a lady who has his child into a baby-mama is irresponsible and stoopid!

Do you think marriage is easy?? Obviously your opinions don't count for anything, one can have a decent baby mama , Money is all you need.

Everyone is talking about have money this have money that, of course I'm not stupid enough to bring a child into this world without catering 4 his/her basic physiological needs.

I'm working in a private sector , and I earn more than half a million naira monthly , plus I have side hustles which brings in money on a weekly basis.

I'm earning enough to take care of one child at the moment , all I'm asking is that , is it a good move ? Cause I'm considering the age factor. I don't want to have kids late, e.g having children at at 35 or 40 you would probably still be paying school fees at age 60 which is when ur meant to retire , do u get d calculations now ?
I just want to know how fathers where able to navigate through those hurdles cus I know some of dem weren't even earning dis much but still dey found a way to scale through.

I also would have my retirement saving plans mapped out. It's not like I want to be totally dependent on my children in old age , but who doesn't want their children to throw in some little help at old age , common.

Gerrard59:


Mr franchasofficia has thoroughly explained what you need to know. My interest is the bold. Inasmuch as it is good for children to take care of their children, today's parents shouldn't wish to depend on those children for economic survival in their elderly state. I understand the structure of Nigeria's economy doesn't fully cater for pension (assuming successive govts don't squander everything), but by depending on the children, you make it difficult for them to build their economic bases. Also, you cannot predict what tomorrow's economy will look like. Those who had children during the early '90s still have to contribute to their children's stability or contribute to their well-being. Additionally, culture changes. In my opinion, the generation that will assist their parents willingly and happily is mine. The present Gen-Zs will be hesitant or some will outrightly say no.

So, it is important you plan your retirement especially as na man you be. Also, no born plenty children. That is where the economics of childbearing and raising come to play.

That is the sad truth because they would want to copy the western culture and tell their aged parents Oyo.


Some Nigerians living abroad are already doing it to their present day aged parents talk more of this our Gen Z people

Gerrard59:


The thing here is that Nigerians nay Africans marry for childbearing sake, not companionship. That is why they practice marry today, born tomorrow ideology. How many Nigerian newly wedded couples would intentionally postpone childbearing for at least two years? And the main koko is that they like to born plenty children scatter everywhere. Born two now, two years never reach, another two don drop. Then they blame Tinubu.

I'm honored to be mentioned by you.
You're right about our marriage being primarily for childbearing.
If you haven't conceived, you'll be asked the reason for the delay. I usually reply them asking if they'll take responsibility when the child comes and they laugh saying God will provide.
I still try to phantom how couples seeing their low income mekwe anyhow and not take caution. They claim that it's good to have a good number of them as you don't know how many will succeed.

Gerrard59:


Mr franchasofficia has thoroughly explained what you need to know. My interest is the bold. Inasmuch as it is good for children to take care of their children, today's parents shouldn't wish to depend on those children for economic survival in their elderly state. I understand the structure of Nigeria's economy doesn't fully cater for pension (assuming successive govts don't squander everything), but by depending on the children, you make it difficult for them to build their economic bases. Also, you cannot predict what tomorrow's economy will look like. Those who had children during the early '90s still have to contribute to their children's stability or contribute to their well-being. Additionally, culture changes. In my opinion, the generation that will assist their parents willingly and happily is mine. The present Gen-Zs will be hesitant or some will outrightly say no.

So, it is important you plan your retirement especially as na man you be. Also, no born plenty children. That is where the economics of childbearing and raising come to play.

My single sister is a Gen Z and doesn't support my parents to my expectation knowing her income level.
I'm not looking forward to my children as retirement plan.

MikeofKd:


Do you think marriage is easy?? Obviously your opinions don't count for anything, one can have a decent baby mama , Money is all you need.

You'll like your daughter to be a baby mama. Awwwwn.

MikeofKd:


Boss I understand u quite well but I'm not talking about marriage here , I can have a decent baby mama and I'm ok with that.
D calculation I'm making here is if one has a kid or kids at an older age it might affect one badly. Time is running fast brother.

Decent baby mama that'll MILK you at every given opportunity. A wife will most likely be prudent with resources....

Esthered:


I'm honored to be mentioned by you.
You're right about our marriage being primarily for childbearing.
If you haven't conceived, you'll be asked the reason for the delay. I usually reply them asking if they'll take responsibility when the child comes and they laugh saying God will provide.
I still try to phantom how couples seeing their low income mekwe anyhow and not take caution. They claim that it's good to have a good number of them as you don't know how many will succeed.

You'd sed a 40 year old man and woman who thinks they are too old and can never amount anything in life anymore.

They'll start praying for their children to make it.

Africans are funny men.

Gerrard59:


No DECENT woman wants to be a baby-mama. Having a baby mama is a sign of irresponsibility. Any man who wants to turn a lady who has his child into a baby-mama is irresponsible and stoopid!

Apt

MikeofKd:


Do you think marriage is easy?? Obviously your opinions don't count for anything, one can have a decent baby mama , Money is all you need.

Obviously, my opinions don't count, but I am stating them because I am cock-sure no DECENT WOMAN wants/wishes/desires to be a baby-mama. If she is so greedy by how much you offer, her parents and siblings, especially the men in her life WOULD kick against it. Why can't you marry her? What makes you think you would have unfettered access to a woman you are not married to simply because she has your child? In fact, if she is Igbo, the child isn't yours, but her family's. Why is she good for having a child, but not marriage? You think scientific studies which show that children raised in two-parent households are better off than their single-parent household counterparts were fake? This is a global phenomenon. Again, I say that any man who wants to have a baby-mama is very irresponsible and stoopid!

I dare you to go to any good working establishment where there are single ladies and mention that you wish to have a baby-mama rather than a wife and watch their responses. Go to medical and pharmacy departments anywhere in Nigeria and scream that you want a baby-mama, not a wife. Go to any church or mosque service and open your buccal cavity chanting "I want a baby-mama not a wife".

Get their responses, Mr BabyMamaIsTheBestThingSinceSliceBread!

Esthered:


I'm honored to be mentioned by you.
You're right about our marriage being primarily for childbearing.
If you haven't conceived, you'll be asked the reason for the delay. I usually reply them asking if they'll take responsibility when the child comes and they laugh saying God will provide.

Please don't fall for the religious, God-chanting tricks of Nigerians. I cherish your current state - two children. You plan well and hope for the best, while also preparing for the worst. You know where the shoe pinches. As you rightly stated, children are investments, not to reap but to nurture. It takes so much to raise children into responsible beings in today's world. I read online that a crate of egg don hit 5K, and we know how egg, in boiled form, is essential for children's growth, mentally, physically and nutritiously.

I still try to phantom how couples seeing their low income mekwe anyhow and not take caution. They claim that it's good to have a good number of them as you don't know how many will succeed.

Tor! Hopefully, they have more girls than boys.

MikeofKd:
I'm in my late 20s and I've been doing some pretty serious calculations lately and I figured out that birthing your kids as a man in your late 20s is super beneficial but the issue here is the bad Economy that a lot of us face in our late 20s e.g paying lots of bills , settling family members , Etc


When you have a child lets say at age 27 or 28 when your 37 or 38 your child is 10 years , when your 47 or 48 your child is 20 years , now at age 20 your child is almost done with their first degree , which is super beneficial as supposed to having a kid when your 35 or 36 And this age some men aren't even financially secured enough to raise a family considering the Economic situation of the country.

Everyone desires for their kids to take care of them at old age , now imagine you are 60 years and your first child is still 15 years old. That jeopardizing the kid's future. Cause at age 60 your ability to work reduces significantly.

I would so much love to birth my kids now due to the old age thing but Providing for a child in this economy isn't that easy , I mean you want to be able to give them a great education and good life at early stages of their Life which can be very very hard in today's economy.

Nland fathers in the house please how were you guys able to navigate your way past all these money calculations and birth your kids early in your late 20s , please fathers in the house I need your wise counselling on this matter. I don't want to be old before I start having children. Thanks in advance.

bills will never go away. If you think I'm lying, ask you. Family matters will also never go away but one thing you can miss out on is the joy of having kids in your youth, that joy of playing hide and seek, football and carrying them on your shoulders for plane rides or on your back as a horse. I would have advised you to get one earlier in your twenties but it's not too late to start now. Family people who want to stress you will see that you have your own responsibilities and leave you alone. The secret is improving yourself with information and staying ahead of the economic curve