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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Whalis: 6:38am On Jul 06
Senator Uchendu I can represent Amaechi better in this scenario. Amaechi has never for once said he is Igbo. He tactically said no one could deny him of his Igbo heritage. Igbo heritage can mean so many things. It could be by way of borrowed culture, language, marriage or anything. For instance in the time past pupils were taught in schools in the old east in Igbo language.
Amaechi clearly said where he comes from when he visited the Deji of Akure during his presidential campaign. He told him he had come to see him not as Hausa, Yoruba, Igbo or Ikwerre where he comes from.
https://onepageafrica.com/2022/04/25/presidential-race-2023-i-will-be-president-for-all-amaechi-assures-as-he-visits-south-west-states/

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by LadyExcellency: 6:39am On Jul 06
Paraman:
IKwerres are not igbos.

My goal is not to take the most popular stance at all times, it’s to be right. Now try addressing the argument I actually made.

I don't quote miscreants, just see this as an honour and try to address the point.

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Paraman: 6:43am On Jul 06
LadyExcellency:


My goal is not to take the most popular stance at all times, it’s to be right. Now try addressing the argument I actually made.

I don't quote miscreants, just see this as an honour and try to address the point.
Ikwerres are not igbos

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Tranquill: 6:44am On Jul 06
Slytiger:

I don't know much about the topic, but I just watched a video of "Nna Mhen TV"after reading the topic and going through the thread.

Everyone he interviewed in the Etche community in Rivers State told him they weren't ibos. Although he tried to convince them in saying that they were Ibos. Those ones even pointed out the difference in the languages to him.

Let them continue in their fruitless pursuit of squeezing water out of stones.

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by DMerciful(m): 6:44am On Jul 06
Are you from Ikwerre?
muhammaduyusufu:
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by LadyExcellency: 6:45am On Jul 06
Slytiger:

I don't know much about the topic, but I just watched a video of "Nna Mhen TV"after reading the topic and going through the thread.

Everyone he interviewed in the Etche community in Rivers State told him they weren't ibos. Although he tried to convince them in saying that they were Ibos. Those ones even pointed out the difference in the languages to him.

And those you interviewed still couldn't update their online profile.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etche

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Noneroone(m): 6:45am On Jul 06
Goodvibes007:

He must be talking about the video below l. One Google search away.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zcQQ1ve7bU?si=GCVVvxAHXlWhft03
where did they deny Igbo in the video?

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Goodvibes007: 6:47am On Jul 06
Noneroone:
where did they deny Igbo in the video?

Watch 18 min. 35 seconds mark. The woman clearly said they are not Ibo.

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Whalis: 6:50am On Jul 06
LadyExcellency:


And those you interviewed still couldn't update their online profile
Wikipedia lies can be written by anyone including you. If you want to know a people hear from them. This was how Igbos would write any ikwerre community before and attach Igbo to it. You would see things like Ikwerre-Igbo.
Have you seen Ngwa-Igbo before or Nkwerre-igbo or Obowu-Igbo? But as they knew ikwerre is not Igbo they would write ikwerre and attach Igbo to it.

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Slytiger: 6:54am On Jul 06
LadyExcellency:


And those you interviewed still couldn't update their online profile.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etche
Any one can edit wikipedia and put stuff there especially when it's not locked.

As you can see, I just changed the Igbo group to Bini group 🤷🏾‍♂️

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Difrent: 6:58am On Jul 06
ALERT!!! ALERT!!! ALERT!!!!

YORUBAS STAY AWAY FROM THIS THREAD just observe the rofo rofo that's about to take place and don't take sides

LIKE WE SAY, GAMBARI PA FULANI, KO KAN AYE

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Whalis: 7:02am On Jul 06
Slytiger:

Any one can edit wikipedia and put stuff there especially when it's not locked.

As you can see, I just changed the Igbo group to Bini group 🤷🏾‍♂️
Bros see if you can edit the ikwerre people own. It looks like the Igbo man who wrote that scrap decided to lock it.
Thanks for doing that to the Etche people.

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Slytiger: 7:07am On Jul 06
Whalis:

Bros see if you can edit the ikwerre people own. It looks like the Igbo man who wrote that scrap decided to lock it.
Thanks for doing that to the Etche people.
That one is very easy to edit to as well. But I have to create a free account. It's 12.07 am where I am at currently and just going to bed. No one takes wikipedia serious since it's easy to edit the pages.

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Noneroone(m): 7:09am On Jul 06
Goodvibes007:


Watch 18 min. 35 seconds mark. The woman clearly said they are not Ibo.

she said they are a separate "tribe" . But when asked the language they use to communicate with Aba people, she said the "general Igbo"

The first man clearly stated that Etche is Igbo. Stop misleading people.

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Goodvibes007: 7:14am On Jul 06
Noneroone:
she said they are a separate "tribe" . But when asked the language they use to communicate with Aba people, she said the "general Igbo"

The first man clearly stated that Etche is Igbo. Stop misleading people.
First man was not speaking English. 2nd man said he wasn't sure what was what. The woman clearly said etches were not Ibo and she was very confident despite the interviewer trying to gaslight her.

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Noneroone(m): 7:18am On Jul 06
Goodvibes007:

First man was not speaking English. 2nd man said he wasn't sure what was what. The woman clearly said etches were not Ibo and she was very confident despite the interviewer trying to gaslight her.
all of them spoke Igbo cheesy

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Gajagojo: 7:24am On Jul 06
MaziX:
Pikin wey say he no like him papa surname so he decide to use wetin he like.. make he remember say home will surely be home.
bitter leaf is too much in your soup

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by muykem: 7:24am On Jul 06
God bless Ikwerre people. They know their root, no to by force marriage.

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Whalis: 7:25am On Jul 06
Slytiger:

That one is very easy to edit to as well. But I have to create a free account. It's 12.07 am where I am at currently and just going to bed. No one takes wikipedia serious since it's easy to edit the pages.
Please do that for ikwerre people. We will honour you with a plot of land. 😂.

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by muykem: 7:29am On Jul 06
LadyExcellency:
They deny affiliation with Igbos but claim they are siblings with Ngwas, Etches etc from the same Igbo tribes. How is that possible?
Why is everybody disassociate themselves from Igbo?

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Gajagojo: 7:29am On Jul 06
LadyExcellency:
If Etche and Ngwas are Igbos then logically Ikwerres are Igbos.

ahh....this is the modified ad hominem:
That is Ibo logic

First of who is Ibo
How is that defined?
Was there ever a country called Ibo ?

Ibo is a creation of the British and Nigeria
Before Nigeria there was never a single group known as Ibo

That is the reality
Ngwa people never called themselves Ibos and actively denied being Ibos for decades
Aros DEFINITELY did not see themselves as Ibos and for verylong their main business was hunting and selling Ibos as slaves

Just like most Fulanis in Nigeria cannot speak Fulani and only speak Hausa

Hausa language does not make them Hausa


Hausa language is a lingua franca in Northern Nigeria
Just like English is lingua franca in Nigeria,the USA and Arabic language is in so many countries

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Abagworo(m): 7:38am On Jul 06
Trying to modify history again after realizing that the earlier modifications had some clear falsehood. Ekpeye and Ogba only had some migrations into Ikwerreland especially Emohua axis. All the Southern Igbos have a link ie Ngwa, Etche, Oratta, Ikwerre, Ohaji, Asa and Ndoki. Ekpeye and Ogba belong to the Niger River Igbos alongside Egbema, Ndoni, Oguta, Ogbaru, Ukwuani and Aboh. Ikwerres should stop playing politics with their history which is well known by every traditionally inclined Igbo man. There are 7 group of villages that make up Ikwerre ethnic nationality and all 7 migrated independently so Ikwerre is actually Ikwerre Asaa or Esa depending on dialect. The 7 groups at a time agreed to come together which is the origin of the term Ikwerre. Some Ikwerre elders coming together to appropriate their origin to one place and then Benin is like Americans whose clearly known origin is Europe outnumbering the original natives and then later having some Africans and Asians suddenly saying that they all originated from China.

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by CyrusVI(m): 7:57am On Jul 06
They said they're not one of u, then leave them
Every single Igbo person on this thread has tried to forcefully make the Ikwerres admit they are Igbos. It's irritating to read

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by OriOko88(m): 8:32am On Jul 06
undecided
You hv no correlation with ibos,but u bear ibo name. Many of u even spk ibo language.Is that elechi not even ibo name,cos I remember one former ebonyi state govo bearing that name.

Iru confusion wo leleyi olohun undecided undecided

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Tjra: 8:33am On Jul 06
CyrusVI:
They said they're not one of u, then leave them
Every single Igbo person on this thread has tried to forcefully make the Ikwerres admit they are Igbos. It's irritating to read
Very irritating to dey do attache. Na by force?

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by JudasNaKarrot: 8:35am On Jul 06
You see, this is one of the very reason why the Igbo tribe is most hated in Nigeria and everywhere around the world. They go to a place, live with the people, use their cunning ways to warm themselves into the heart of the aboriginal owners of land, before you know it they have their own Eze this and Eze that first, then later begin to contest the kingship with owners of the land.
I know the Ikwerres very very well and I did a research on their ancestry. That ethnic group, no doubt speak a language much similar to the Igbos who are a much larger ethnic nationality.
As expected, the influence of the larger group will always overshadow the smaller one. Culture, marriage and trade, all are a determinant factor in shaping the society as it progresses. These events happen over a long period of time without someone noticing it.....hundreds of years.
The Aros of the present day Igbos are known to be from the present day Calabar. If he chooses to recognise his ancestry, is it a crime?

The Igbos should be more concerned on how to be united in their region and stop telling someone his own history just because he speaks a language similar to his.

Anambra man hates the Ebonyi and Imo State people. Abia and Imo don't like Enugu and Anambra people. Go and build your own home first before looking for someone to forcefully belong to you.
Who would like to identify with criminals who can kill their own parents just to get rich.

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by PHIPEX(m): 8:35am On Jul 06
Lol.
Your name is Igbo, your food is Igbo, your dress is Igbo, your culture is Igbo, your language is Igbo....etc, infact you have nothing that is not Igbo


But because of politics you said you are not Igbo, who is deceiving who?

Who cares, if you like call yourself Liberian, who cares? But just know you are only deceiving yourself, everyone sees through you.

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Tjra: 8:37am On Jul 06
Fejoku:

The confusion in Ikwerreland is beyond belief. How can one claim to be siblings with other Igbo clans but deny "Ancestral link" with the same Igbo nation? Is Ngwa not Igbo? Is Etche not Igbo?
By this Punch publication, Ikwerre, Etche and Ngwa historically have the same father and mother. They have tied themselves to the Igbo nation by it. It's expected that they review this publication not long from now.
They don't wanna be associated with you. Leave them alone. Na by force?

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Sleekfingers: 8:38am On Jul 06
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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by emapeteum(m): 8:40am On Jul 06
Remman:
Intermarriage happens everywhere, since we settled closer to the igbos, our ancestors married Igbo daughters to avoid marrying their own siblings and somehow the Igbo daughters married into our land taught their children the Igbo language. And this practice happens till date where children found themselves speaking their mother's language. If the Igbos claim we came from them, let's hear their own Kanu and Ojukwu story about the ancestors of Ikwerres. Before the civil war, the Igbos came to settle in Ikwerre land and began to rename our streets bearing our true ancestral names to their language names. Now during the civil war they killed us and did a lot of evil to us whom they now claim is their brothers (since they're unaware of the language-work of their daughters married by our ancestors). Now, when the war was intensified, they ran away (why would they run if they owned the place?). When we saw how we were tricked by those tribes, we took back our properties they stole from us, we won the battle.
This story has to be told. The Igbos are full of deceit and always falsified history. The evil this tribe did to Southern minorities during the civil war is beyond words

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Brandosky: 8:40am On Jul 06
MaziX:
Pikin wey say he no like him papa surname so he decide to use wetin he like.. make he remember say home will surely be home.
We do not give a Bleep about ikwerre people. They can join whoever they want.
We just don't want them to come tomorrow and start telling us how war made them to deny there igbo link. We have nothing to gain from there allegiance

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Ubongkuda1: 8:42am On Jul 06
muhammaduyusufu:


https://punchng.com/ikwerres-deny-ancestral-affiliation-with-south-east/?amp
Indeed politics is a dirty game and game of interest. Imagine even the British said ikweres are sub Igbo group but politics said no cuz of oil money and interest. This is what is happening in Akwaibom. Anang said they're not Ibibio and oron said they're not uruan etc

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