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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by fnep2smooth(m): 4:30pm On Jul 06
SonofLagos:
grin good accept your rejection in good faith…and develop your barren region😂😂


😂😂 Thanks for the advice, SonofLagos! Embracing rejection with a grin and turning barren regions into fertile ground is what growth is all about. Keep laughing and thriving! 💪😊

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Gerhards: 4:30pm On Jul 06
SonofLagos:
😂😂nwoken are lagosians ibo? This pain is really severe and affecting your brain….proudly lagos, if he pain you enter lagoon abeg…but remember ikwerres are not ibos, so be content with your 5plot of Erosion land 😂😂😂clown





Didirin I'm a Lagosian too grin grin

Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by sammiewrite(m): 4:33pm On Jul 06
Let's for a minute even forget the atrocities of the war - offline and online (even on this very thread!) you call a people useless, lazy and unproductive and you want such people to want to have anything to do with you, when they clearly have no reason to? You want a people you don't see as a brother, friend or even neighbour - rather as your subject - to want to identify with you? Has anyone ever seen even the lowest rated Yoruba man speak in this manner about an Okun or Igbominna man, for example? Or have you seen an Hausa man speak such distastefully about any of the minority tribe from, say, Adamawa or Bauchi? Who swore for these people never to take responsibility? Don't they for once sit down to retrospect or they just think everything is about ego, arrogance and being uncouth?

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Proudlyngwa(m): 4:36pm On Jul 06
anonymous1759:



Guy ? if that’s what igbos actually meant no one will be dragging them . It seems you’re not well informed on what your tribe actually want.
have you not seen bogus maps drawn by your people saying parts of Delta, Bayelsa, Benue, Rivers , AkwaIbom, cross river is part of Igbo land ?
Please don’t say this whenever you’re amongst your brother’s they’ll disown you.

Part of Biafra land not part of igboland

They are two different things
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by SonofLagos: 4:37pm On Jul 06
Gerhards:






Didirin I'm a Lagosian too grin grin
😂😂😂 nwokem be proud of your cursed Anambala 😂😂😂your ikwerres cousins have denied you now you wan claim obodo ragos😂😂😂so I guess you ready to deny your heritage to have a Yoruba name and tribal mark😂😂because we don’t bare Chinedu here in Lagos and we don’t have a flat shape of head….shameless pig😂😂

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Gerhards: 4:38pm On Jul 06
sammiewrite:
Let's for a minute even forget the atrocities of the war - offline and online (even on this very thread!) you call a people useless, lazy and unproductive and you want such people to want to have anything to do with you, when they clearly have no reason to? You want a people you don't see as a brother, friend or even neighbour - rather as your subject - to want to identify with you? Has anyone ever seen even the lowest rated Yoruba man speak in this manner about an Okun or Igbominna man, for example? Or have you seen an Hausa man speak such distastefully about any of the minority tribe from, say, Adamawa or Bauchi? Who swore for these people never to take responsibility? Don't they for once sit down to retrospect or they just think everything is about ego, arrogance and being uncouth?






It's one of your useless brother who made that comment who pretend to be Igbo, your propaganda is longer working, get it into your thick con head, look for another tricks grin grin

Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by SonofLagos: 4:39pm On Jul 06
fnep2smooth:



😂😂 Thanks for the advice, SonofLagos! Embracing rejection with a grin and turning barren regions into fertile ground is what growth is all about. Keep laughing and thriving! 💪😊

Reply by Ai
grin accept your rejection in good faith and deverop your region😂😂so you can be proud of your heritage…other tribe don see Una yansh finish 😂😂

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Gajagojo: 4:39pm On Jul 06
Gerhards:





I was not feed with Lagos/Ibadan express propaganda like your people who breathe and live in propaganda ..... I did not made up any story,it's open an secret, Yes, Babangida said that after 93 election was canceled.... use google, Buhari mother is hausa and not Fulani, your brain has been damaged with Lagos/Ibadan express propaganda. spit
You sound unbalanced
Everything requires evidence
What is Lagos Ibadan express
What has your rant about what Babangida said or did not say got to do with Ikwerre matter
If that is so important to your life create a thread to discuss that
I will not derailmthis beautiful thread to discussyour mental delusions

Ikwerre are NOT Eboes

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Proudlyngwa(m): 4:40pm On Jul 06
Gajagojo:

Has no meaning
Is plantain a type of banana or is banana a type of plantain?

Portuguese speakers understand French Spanish and Italian

Does not make one a dialect of the other

Ther are sister languages with the same root Latin


Latin is now dead
For something to be a variation of another thing that thing must have definition
Who told you your Igbo language is not a variation of Ikwerre

Why can't Ikwerre and ibo be two different languages that are children of another language




So instead of making arrogant and foolish statements educate yourself about how languages evolved

So children of what language are they.

Your analogy is flawed.

Igbo, ibibio, and others are language of the Congo basin.

Ikwerre is a derivative of the greater Igbo language, just like Ngwa, etche, abriba, amidst others
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Gerhards: 4:40pm On Jul 06
SonofLagos:
😂😂😂 nwokem be proud of your cursed Anambala 😂😂😂your ikwerres cousins have denied you now you wan claim obodo ragos😂😂😂so I guess you ready to deny your heritage to have a Yoruba name and tribal mark😂😂because we don’t bare Chinedu here in Lagos and we don’t have a flat shape of head….shameless pig😂😂







Laughing like a reetaard inside brown roofs with tiny windows won't change your coward nature coupled with low self esteem grin grin

Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Gajagojo: 4:41pm On Jul 06
sammiewrite:
Let's for a minute even forget the atrocities of the war - offline and online (even on this very thread!) you call a people useless, lazy and unproductive and you want such people to want to have anything to do with you, when they clearly have no reason to? You want a people you don't see as a brother, friend or even neighbour - rather as your subject - to want to identify with you? Has anyone ever seen even the lowest rated Yoruba man speak in this manner about an Okun or Igbominna man, for example? Or have you seen an Hausa man speak such distastefully about any of the minority tribe from, say, Adamawa or Bauchi? Who swore for these people never to take responsibility? Don't they for once sit down to retrospect or they just think everything is about ego, arrogance and being uncouth?
Ikwerre formed Ogbakor Ikwerre long before Ohanaeze

They have always asserted their difference

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Gajagojo: 4:42pm On Jul 06
Proudlyngwa:


So children of what language are they.

Your analogy is flawed.

Igbo, ibibio, and others are language of the Congo basin.

Ikwerre is a derivative of the greater Igbo language, just like Ngwa, etche, abriba, amidst others
Congo basin ko Congo basket ni

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Gerhards: 4:44pm On Jul 06
Gajagojo:

You sound unbalanced
Everything requires evidence
What is Lagos Ibadan express
What has your rant about what Babangida said or did not say got to do with Ikwerre matter
If that is so important to your life create a thread to discuss that
I will not derailmthis beautiful thread to discussyour mental delusions

Ikwerre are NOT Eboes




You need to reclaim Ilorin before joining this kind of conversation, take your incoherent gibberish out of my mention, i don't like talking to people with inferiority complexgrin

Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by 004gist: 4:46pm On Jul 06
Gajagojo:

Why should I what is the point
What will that prove?
Your questions are childish and inane
grin
Then keep quite if you have no idea..

All those words are same with igbo dialect... That's to tell u we are same language.

Kiss the truth
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by SonofLagos: 4:47pm On Jul 06
Gerhards:








Laughing like a reetaard inside brown roofs with tiny windows won't change your coward nature coupled with low self esteem grin grin
😂😂nwokem stop crying and accept your rejection in peace…we know it hurts😂😂 go and develop your barren land and stop the forced attachment…it’s shameful, your ancestors will be rolling in there graveseeing how low ibo have degenerated to😂😂😂

No level at all…proudly Lagos😂😂nwokem be proud of Anambala😂😂

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by subcbouy: 4:48pm On Jul 06
People are rejecting because of what their ancestors experienced during the regional govt. Nobody wants to experience such again. grin grin grin I remember what my ijaw neighbour said concerning his fathers experience and he doesn't want to experience it in his time grin grin grin
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Gerhards: 4:52pm On Jul 06
004gist:

grin
Then keep quite if you have no idea..

All those words are same with igbo dialect... That's to tell u we are same language.

Kiss the truth




Don't mind the fool, do you know Ibadan dialect is different from Ogun, Lagos and ondo state person, there are many dialects inside small Ijebu-ode, Ondo people has there own dialect. Ewedus are so evil minded but coward in nature grin
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by 004gist: 4:54pm On Jul 06
Gerhards:





Don't mind the fool, do you know Ibadan dialect is different from Ogun, Lagos and ondo state person, there are many dialects inside small Ijebu-ode, Ondo people has there own dialect. Ewedus are so evil minded but coward in nature grin

Very cunning set of people. They are the ones behind the division
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Gerhards: 4:56pm On Jul 06
SonofLagos:
😂😂nwokem stop crying and accept your rejection in peace…we know it hurts😂😂 go and develop your barren land and stop the forced attachment…it’s shameful, your ancestors will be rolling in there graveseeing how low ibo have degenerated to😂😂😂

No level at all…proudly Lagos😂😂nwokem be proud of Anambala😂😂







Ode-Omu yoruba muslim, you will soon get infected inside that your smelling shalanga inside your brown roof room close to your tiny windows, wretched Ewedu muncher, are you on Ankara? grin grin

Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Gerhards: 4:59pm On Jul 06
subcbouy:
People are rejecting because of what their ancestors experienced during the regional govt. Nobody wants to experience such again. grin grin grin I remember what my ijaw neighbour said concerning his fathers experience and he doesn't want to experience it in his time grin grin grin






See what you did to your brother and leader, two face tribe with slavery mentality coupled with coward nature grin grin

Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Gerhards: 5:03pm On Jul 06
004gist:


Very cunning set of people. They are the ones behind the division




99% of Ewedus normally reason through their anuses, they can betray for the whole Africa grin

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by ChinenyeN(m): 5:05pm On Jul 06
https://punchng.com/ikwerres-deny-ancestral-affiliation-with-south-east/?amp

“Akalaka moved down with his family of two wives and children to Elele (Okani-eli). [b]His first wife begat two sons – Ekpeye and Ogba – and the second wife begat Iwhurohna, Etche and Ngwa…[/b]The same incident that led to the Benin revolution reared its ugly head again at Elele. It was to your tents oh Israel. Ekpeye, led by his first son Ehuda, crossed the Sombriero River with Ogba, and the latter moved towards the Orashi area.

And now we have reached a new height of delusion. I knew it would only be a matter of time. I said it years years ago. The only way for the Benin narrative to win is to use propaganda and make it encompass all other narratives.

First it started by ignoring the Ochichi parts of the oral tradition. You all ignored it because you knew that the Ochichi tradition does not support the Benin migration claims. But that was not enough, because without integrating the Ochichi tradition, you would not be able to reconcile the presence of the southern/eastern half of Ikwerre. So Benin propagandists could no longer just ignore the Ochichi oral traditions and in effect came up with the ridiculous idea that Akalaka and Ochichi were half-brothers. But again that was not enough. There is a publicly recognized ancestry between large parts of Ikwerre, Echie and Ngwa in part through Ochichi and through the original Iwhnerneohna narrative. Furthermore, this ancestry does not support the Benin migration claims. So what do the Benin propagandists do? They expand the scope of the Benin tradition yet again to now include Echie and Ngwa. How laughable to include Ngwa especially. This is where it all falls apart. Soon enough, they will see that claiming Ngwa is not enough. Echie has recognized ancestry with Oratta, and Ngwa has recognized ancestry with Mbaise, Obowu, Asa and Ndoki. Benin propagandist will then have no choice but to further expand the scope of this ridiculous Benin tradition yet again to come and encompass these additional groups.

When all is said and done, Benin propagandists will have no choice but to look stupid and claim that the entirety of southern Igbo-speaking communities came from Akalaka.

How much longer until you realize that you are making yourselves out to look stupid like this?

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by herich(m): 5:07pm On Jul 06
Remman:
Yes, their wives taught their children the igbo language and it's a common practice in the world.

So, it was married women that changed your language.
Amazing 😁😁
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by DmonSlayer10: 5:09pm On Jul 06
javascript1901:

Well.
Whether Yoruba o, Bini, Ikwerre , Urhobo. we are all best and unique in our various ways. Yorubas are doing well worldwide, Bini too...
I think the richest black man in US, is a Yoruba man.
Whether majority or minority.
Being one of the largest does not make you better than the minority. Everyone is unique in their ways.


***
why should you blame nairaland.com a Nigerian forum for news and updates...
Nairaland only brought up the updates here for discussion.

Igbo people(some) are the ones telling Ikwerres that, they are Igbos. And the Ikwerres already told them they are not Igbos.

The Ikwerres are only reacting or responding.

So who should be blamed now?

There you go again....

Twisting and distorting what I said in order to make my points look bad and cheeky while yours look better and appreciable That's dirty bro;

I was never blaming Nairaland as an organisation...

I'm blaming the TROLLS like you WHO ARE on Nairaland,not the platform itself,who have made a career out of antagonising and trolling Igbos.I said I blame you trolls and Igbo haters for the BRICKBATS about Ikwerre and Igbos

Read again the second to the last paragraph of my last comment..

Don't play dirty with me.I'm better at it
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Afonjananawerey: 5:10pm On Jul 06
Gerhards:





99% of Ewedus normally reason through their anuses, they can betray for the whole Africa grin




Nigeria would have been a working country without those backstabbers by nature, they betrayed Abiola their own blood and leader, lost Ilorin with the same backstabbing nature, nobody was ever going to respect that tribe but still won't understand the reason ..... useless set of people who believe so much in betraying each other, have you wonder why they sleep with each other wives which have resulted in many of them using Magun as last option by killing fellow brother and sisters
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by SonofLagos: 5:14pm On Jul 06
Gerhards:








Ode-Omu yoruba muslim, you will soon get infected inside that your smelling shalanga inside your brown roof room close to your tiny windows, wretched Ewedu muncher, are you on Ankara? grin grin
😂😂😂ikwerres are not ibo…accept your rejection in good faith and stop crying….proudly Lagos, if he pain you, you can dive in the lagoon, shameless pig of alaibo😂😂

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Afonjananawerey: 5:16pm On Jul 06
DmonSlayer10:

There you go again....

Twisting and distorting what I said in order to make my points look bad and cheeky while yours look better and appreciable That's dirty bro;

I was never blaming Nairaland as an organisation...

I'm blaming the TROLLS like you WHO ARE on Nairaland,not the platform itself,who have made a career out of antagonising and trolling Igbos.I said I blame you trolls and Igbo haters for the BRICKBATS about Ikwerre and Igbos

Read again the second to the last paragraph of my last comment..

Don't play dirty with me.I'm better at it





Ewedus are the most disgusting set of subhuman on this earth, lack common sense due to excess consumption of drinking garri 3 times a day then leading to the malfunction in their brains. their mechanism to survive is to betray others including themselves

Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Gerhards: 5:21pm On Jul 06
herich:


So, it was married women that changed your language.
Amazing 😁😁




He has disgraced himself out of this place, i don't even believe Ikwerre person would make such a comment apart from Ewedus who like to impersonate other tribes, it's their nature, the whole Nigeria know them very well, Ewedus are subhumans grin grin

Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Gerhards: 5:23pm On Jul 06
SonofLagos:
😂😂😂ikwerres are not ibo…accept your rejection in good faith and stop crying….proudly Lagos, if he pain you, you can dive in the lagoon, shameless pig of alaibo😂😂





Ewedus are no use to anybody, they are beyond useless, lick the truth grin grin

Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Gajagojo: 5:27pm On Jul 06
004gist:

grin
Then keep quite if you have no idea..

All those words are same with igbo dialect... That's to tell u we are same language.

Kiss the truth
That is not how it works and that is why you should shut up
Spanish and Portuguese have thousands of similar words with 90% lexical similarities
With 60% mutual intelligibility

That does not make them the same language

Don't take my word for it

Do a search
How many words are shared between Portuguese and Spanish
Similarities are not enough to say they are the same language
It is clearly above your understanding

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Gajagojo: 5:30pm On Jul 06
Afonjananawerey:






Ewedus are the most disgusting set of subhuman on this earth, seun lack common sense due to excess consumption of drinking garri 3 times a day then leading to the malfunction in their brains. their mechanism to survive is to betray others including themselves
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Gajagojo: 5:33pm On Jul 06
Gerhards:





You need to reclaim Ilorin before joining this kind of conversation, take your incoherent gibberish out of my mention, i don't like talking to people with inferiority complexgrin
Have you reclaimed Arochukwu where the descendants of Nnubi from Akamkpa reigns to this day as Eze Aro
After his ancestors sold Eboes as slaves for centuries

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