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Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by Pat081: 7:28pm On Jul 06
MT:


To you they are not helping because you are ill informed.

Security cooperation among these countries keep the attack on this threshold. It could have been worse.

Appreciate your country, for once in your life.
we know your type
Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by Ashirioluwa: 7:28pm On Jul 06
The first problem is that this Tinubu-led government is incredibly weak, and the second is that our government unable to solve its own internal crises, which makes ECOWAS member states to look down on our country.
Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by sulaak(m): 8:06pm On Jul 06
Wiseman2y:
Tinubu is a disaster to Nigeria and ECOWAS. More countries will still withdraw their membership.

Cape Verde will be leaving very soon. There has just been a protest against Black African immigrants in another country.

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Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by sulaak(m): 8:07pm On Jul 06
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Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by sulaak(m): 8:07pm On Jul 06
Ashirioluwa:
The first problem is that this Tinubu-led government is incredibly weak, and the second is that our government unable to solve its own internal crises, which makes ECOWAS member states to look down on our country.

Nigeria is 60% of ECOWAS, and when Nigeria fails, ECOWAS fails. Nigeria's poor relationship with AES means more insecurity.
Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by okechuks22: 8:10pm On Jul 06
Paraman:
Bye bye

ECOWAS shouldn't have lifted some of the sanctions.
that's to show you the uselessness of ur ECOWAS
Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by Theoarhics: 8:19pm On Jul 06
Wetin Nigeria don even gain from ecowas self?
Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by Wiseman2y(m): 8:23pm On Jul 06
sulaak:


Cape Verde will be leaving very soon. There has just been a protest against Black African immigrants in another country.
only God and willful sound minds can deliver us from this evil Apc and tinubu. ECOWAS has lost its glory many years back. It's an old shadow of itself. Tinubu is doom to Nigeria and ECOWAS I see more countries to leave ECOWAS soon.
Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by Augustine2244(m): 8:28pm On Jul 06
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Same ECOWAS that was threatening military intervention
Lol! Don't mind them.ECOWAS has become a toothless bulldog and now increasingly a puppet of Western manipulation.
Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by Augustine2244(m): 8:34pm On Jul 06
Good one for Gen.Tiani ECOWAS has lost its relevance and become a toothless bulldog and now increasingly a puppet of Western manipulation.
Lol! The same ECOWAS that was threatening military intervention in these military ruled countries, has now licked its spittle.
I salute these military rulers for standing their ground firmly on their goals and objectives.
Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by pongwa(m): 8:39pm On Jul 06
alphaNomega:
impossible
don't underrate the influence of their brothers in Niger and the Sahel as a whole
Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by mfm04622: 8:45pm On Jul 06
alphaNomega:
yes it has!

When was the last time you heard they had security issues?

Everyday!!!!

Just Google the countries and read about them!
Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by Charly68: 9:03pm On Jul 06
They are mumu... They don't understand international politics . They are just trying what they can't sustain. We shall see how far their stubbornness will carry them
Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by Realjass1: 9:14pm On Jul 06
Just look at who's leading ECOWAS, someone who has been accused of all types of crimes locally and internationally over and over again.
Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by loswhite(m): 10:09pm On Jul 06
kettykin:
Why can't they just assist liberate the remaining west African countries that are tired of being in bondage under the west , why can't Russia show some leadership
lol so Niger has now been liberated. Why have you not moved to developed Niger or Mali or Burkina Faso? Why are you still in Nigeria? Bunch of Idiots

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Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by ARISHEM: 11:40pm On Jul 06
Why is Ecowas begging them. Are they regretting their sanctioning decisions.
Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by barb5491: 11:52pm On Jul 06
The brutal treatment of African migrants in the Arab countries of North Africa and the virulent racism they are subjected to, on daily basis, are a product of utter contempt and extreme hatred of black people in Arab societies which are inherently racist.

Arabs have absolutely no respect - let alone compassion - for black people. They want to dominate black African countries and are determined to do so in order to serve their own interests at the expense of Africans. They don't even call themselves "Africans." The term "Africans" or "African" applies only to black people they insist. They say they are "Arab," which they are, and members of the Arab world, not of the African world, which is true.

There are African leaders who have been blunt about Arab intentions to dominate Africa. They have unequivocally stated that Arabs are only concerned about their well-being and don't care about black people. Black African countries are there for them to conquer and take over; with black people working for them as slaves, as they have for hundreds of years. Even today, Arabs still call Africans "slaves," and were they come from, Black Africa, "land of slaves."

The most prominent African leaders who were blunt about Arab bad intentions to dominate Africa were Obafemi Awolowo and Anthony Enahoro. Among African president, it was Dr. Hastings Kamuzu Banda of Malawi, Leopold Sedar Senghor of Senegal, and Yoweri Museveni of Uganda whose position on Arab intentions in Africa is a very strong warning to Black Africa on what will happen if Africans are not careful, very careful, when dealing with Arabs. They are going to take over African countries.

Even Nyerere, who was a close friend of Gamal Abdel Nasser and worked with him as much as he did with Nkrumah and Sekou Toure on African liberation, warned Black Africa not long before he died that Arab North Africa - and other people outside Africa - don't care about their well-being of African countries south of the Sahara. As he out it: "Africa south of the Sahara is on its own."

Nkrumah also was warned by George Padmore, his adviser on African affairs, to be careful in his dealings with Arabs; they couldn't be trusted. Even African Americans who went to live in Egypt when Nasser was president were expelled soon after Nasser died and was succeeded by Anwar Sadat. Among those expelled was Shirley Graham Du Bois, wife of Dr. W.e.B. Du Bois. She was invited by Nyerere to go and live in Tanzania. She became a citizen of Tanzania and died a Tanzanian. Her husband Dr. Du Bois died a citizen of Ghana. Nyerere also invited Nkrumah to go and live in Tanzania after he was overthrown but went to, Guinea, instead, at the invitation of Sekou Toure, saying he wanted to be closer to Ghana to monitor events in his home country after his ouster hoping he would be reinstated.

After Nasser died, Egypt no longer maintained close ties with any black African country and his successor, Sadat, is on record insulting and making fun of African countries. He never had any close ties with Nyerere and Sekou Toure the way Nasser did. His contempt for Black Africa is a matter of record.

Dr. Banda was explicit in his criticism and condemnation of Arabs in Africa. He said they were "foreigners and imperialists" just like the whites in South Africa and there was no difference, none whatsoever, between the two. He went on to say he would have liked to form an army specifically for the purpose of sending the soldiers to Sudan to help blacks fight the Arabs who were oppressing and killing them but couldn't do so because he just didn't have the money.

Like Banda, President Senghor also said Arabs were imperialists but Africans would resist any attempt to conquer them.

Museveni in an interview on Hardtalk, BBC, said Arabs wanted to dominate Africans and that the two were different people.

Here is the position of Awolowo and Enahoro on Arabs in Africa:

"Awolowo and the AG published an official statement on the guiding principles of their foreign policy....The paper, 'Foreign Policy of Independent Nigeria,' included a strong condemnation of encroaching Arab influence in Africa, and particularly Nasser's hegemonic control:

'It is clear that President Nasser will only tolerate an Arab leader for the continent of Africa. He is apparently convinced that the black peoples of Africa are backward and that Egypt has a mission of leadership to fulfil on the Continent of Africa.

The Action Group considers that this is the height of folly and short-sightedness to have close political association with Egypt, so long as President Nasser holds sway in that country.'" - (Quoted in Willie Molesi, Black Africa versus Arab North Africa: The Great Divide, p. 132).

“Obafemi Awolowo...had his disdain for the Arab world....He did not consider Egypt part of Africa and particularly detested the Egyptian leader Gamal Abdel Nasser, whom he accused of 'undisguised totalitarianism at home and territorial ambitions in Africa and the Muslim world.' As Ibrahim Gambari has noted, Awolowo's party spokesman on foreign affairs, Anthony Enahoro, wanted Arab North Africa excluded from any discussion on pan-Africanism.” - (Quoted in Willie Molesi, Black Africa versus Arab North Africa: The Great Divide, p. 133).

“Influential Southern leaders such as Chief Awolowo, head of the third major Nigerian political party, detested Nasser's Egypt and the Arab world. He did not really consider Egypt an African country and accused Nasser of 'undisguised totalitarianism (at home) and territorial ambitions in Africa and the Muslim world.' Chief Awolowo's deputy and main spokesman on foreign affairs, Anthony Enahoro, wanted the exclusion of Arab North African countries from discussions of, and meetings about, Pan-Africanism.” (Quoted in Willie Molesi, Black Africa versus Arab North Africa: The Great Divide, pp. 133 - 134).

Kamuzu Banda:

“In a speech to the Malawi Congress Party in September, 1968, he complained that only a lack of funds prevented him from raising a national army to fight alongside Africans against Arabs in the Sudan because he thought Africans in Southern Sudan were being murdered by the Arabs, yet African leaders did not lift a finger in protest.

'There is no difference whatsoever between the Whites in South Africa and the Arabs in the Sudan. Both are settlers – foreigners and imperialists,' he declared....Dr. Banda declined to attend the OAU Summit Conference in September on the ground of its being held in Algiers.” - Willie Molesi, Black Africa versus Arab North Africa: The Great Divide, p. 134).

Yoweri Museveni:

“Black Africans are humble people, we never impose our views on anybody else, we are not like Europeans or Arabs who want to impose their views.

I normally tell people that when I hear Arabs talking of haram (something that is forbidden), something which is haram, I always tell them that my history of haram is much longer than that one of the Arabs....I don't eat very many of those things you people eat....But I keep this to myself. This is the difference with the black people....

Those jihadists (who killed more than 70 people in the Ugandan capital Kampala in July 2010) are really non-African in their attitudes. I have told you about the attitude of the black people....Our Moslems do not engage in that type of chauvinism. They keep their views to themselves, so do Christians, so do traditional groups. That's how we live in harmony....

We are ready to work together to defeat these foreigners who are coming with these chauvinistic ideas from the Middle East to implant them in our continent. In our continent, we black people, we live and let live. We never try to impose our views on anybody else.” - (Quoted in Willie Molesi, Black Africa verus Arab North Africa: The Great Divide, p. 21).

Nyerere:

“North Africa is to Europe what Mexico is to the United States. North Africans who have no jobs will not go to Nigeria; they’ll be thinking of Europe or the Middle East, because of the imperatives of geography and history and religion and language. North Africa is part of Europe and the Middle East.

Nasser was a great leader and a great African leader. I got on extremely well with him. Once he sent me a minister, and I had a long discussion with his minister at the State House here, and in the course of the discussion, the minister says to me, 'Mr. President, this is my first visit to Africa.'

North Africa, because of the pull of the Mediterranean, and I say, history and culture, and religion, North Africa is pulled towards the North. When North Africans look for jobs, they go to Western Europe and southern Western Europe, or they go to the Middle East.

And Europe has a specific policy for North Africa, specific policy for North Africa. It’s not only about development; it’s also about security. Because of you don’t do something about North Africa, they’ll come.

Africa, south of the Sahara, is different; totally different. If you have no jobs here in Tanzania, where do you go? The Japanese have no fear that you people will flock to Japan. The North Americans have no fear that you people will flock to North America. Not even from West Africa. The Atlantic, the Atlantic as an ocean, like the Mediterranean, it has its own logic. But links North America and Western Europe, not North America and West Africa.

Africa south of the Sahara is isolated. That is the first point I want to make. South of the Sahara is totally isolated in terms of that configuration of developing power in the world in the 21st century - on its own. There is no centre of power in whose self-interest it’s important to develop Africa, no centre. Not North America, not Japan, not Western Europe. There’s no self-interest to bother about Africa south of the Sahara. Africa south of the Sahara is on its own. Na si jambo baya. Those of you who don’t know Kiswahili, I just whispered, 'Not necessarily bad.'

That’s the first thing I wanted to say about Africa south of the Sahara. African leadership, the coming African leadership, will have to bear that in mind. You are on your own....

So that’s the first thing I wanted to say about Africa south of the Sahara. Africa south of the Sahara in those terms is isolated....

The second point about Africa, and again I am talking about Africa south of the Sahara; it is fragmented, fragmented. From the very beginning of independence 40 years ago, we were against that idea, that the continent is so fragmented. We called it the Balkanisation of Africa. Today, I think the Balkans are talking about the Africanisation of Europe. Africa’s states are too many, too small, some make no logic, whether political logic or ethnic logic or anything. They are non-viable....

Africa south of the Sahara is isolated. Therefore, to develop, it will have to depend upon its own resources basically. Internal resources, nationally; and Africa will have to depend upon Africa. The leadership of the future will have to devise, try to carry out policies of maximum national self-reliance and maximum collective self-reliance. They have no other choice....

The small countries in Africa must move towards either unity or co-operation, unity of Africa. The leadership of the future, of the 21st century, should have less respect, less respect for this thing called “national sovereignty.” I’m not saying take up arms and destroy the state, no! This idea that we must preserve the Tanganyika, then preserve the Kenya as they are, is nonsensical!

The nation-states we in Africa, have inherited from Europe. They are the builders of the nation-states par excellence. For centuries they fought wars! The history of Europe, the history of the building of Europe is a history of war. And sometimes their wars when they get hotter although they’re European wars, they call them world wars. And we all get involved. We fight even in Tanganyika here, we fought here, one world war.

These Europeans, powerful, where little Belgium is more powerful than the whole of Africa south of the Sahara put together; these powerful European states are moving towards unity, and you people are talking about the atavism of the tribe, this is nonsense! I am telling you people. How can anybody think of the tribe as the unity of the future?....

Europe now, you can take it almost as God-given, Europe is not going to fight with Europe anymore. The Europeans are not going to take up arms against Europeans. They are moving towards unity - even the little, the little countries of the Balkans which are breaking up, Yugoslavia breaking up, but they are breaking up at the same time the building up is taking place. They break up and say we want to come into the bigger unity.

So there’s a building movement, there’s a building of Europe. These countries which have old, old sovereignties, countries of hundreds of years old; they are forgetting this, they are moving towards unity. And you people, you think Tanzania is sacred? What is Tanzania!

You have to move towards unity.... If we can’t move towards bigger nation-states, at least let’s move towards greater co-operation. This is beginning to happen. And the new leadership in Africa should encourage it....Please accept the logic of coming together.” - (Quoted in Willie Molesi, Black Africa versus Arab North Africa: The Great Divide, pp. 25 - 28).
Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by alphaNomega: 5:57am On Jul 07
mfm04622:


Everyday!!!!

Just Google the countries and read about them!
i do that every day. nothing like that
Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by alphaNomega: 5:59am On Jul 07
DeepSight:


HAHAHAHAHA. Well I no be politician. I be humble lawyer.
If I be president, I go lock every political thief inside jail or kill dem extra-judicially. And damn the consequences.
this is why we need you in aso rock. i mean it. don't accept EFCC chairman
Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by Chiefpriestt: 6:41am On Jul 07
Gandrova:
You have no common sense
You're mistaking me for your father
Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by gare(f): 6:44am On Jul 07
Paraman:
Bye bye

ECOWAS shouldn't have lifted some of the sanctions.

It's fine, whatever benefits they enjoyed in ecowas should be stripped off, and everyone should move on, what have they benefited from ecowas
Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by ucbenjamin696(m): 7:55am On Jul 07
IF DEY THINK DEY CAN SURVIVE ON THER OWN WITHOUT ECOWAS, ABEG ALLOW DEM REST,SHEBI NAW COUP BRING DEM CUM,LAS LAS NAW ANODA COUP GO STILL CARRY DEM GO,EVEN IF THERE PEOPLE BACK ND CARRY DEM,ONE MISTAKE ALL THEIR 99% GOOD DEEDS GO COLLAPSE IN A SECS...,I JUS PRAY MAKE US NO REASON DEM FOR ANY REASON,FRANCE SELF DON TOO OPPRESS DEM JARE....LAS LAS ALL OF US GO DEY OK
Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by allthingsgood: 7:56am On Jul 07
Paraman:
Bye bye

ECOWAS shouldn't have lifted some of the sanctions.

I know u didn't read
Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by DeepSight(m): 9:30am On Jul 07
alphaNomega:
this is why we need you in aso rock. i mean it. don't accept EFCC chairman

1. Arrest all former Heads of State immediately. And most former ministers and governors and senators. Make them vomit what they have stolen. It will be many billions of dollars.

2. Re introduce subsidies without corruption - the cost will be vastly lower

3. Make sure the refineries work.

4. Focus on electricity. It will kickstart the economy.

5. Aggressively industrialize. Demand that cars, telephones, laptops etc are made in Nigeria. Tell Toyota, Benz, Honda, Samsung, Tesla, etc that they can't sell in Nigeria without building factories here.

6. Create plantations across the country for mass agriculture and begin to export cash crops.

7. Solid minerals. Mine them aggressively and take away the gold cabal in Zamfara.

8. Natural Gas - Power it up to sell beyond oil.

9. Exit OPEC and ensure production of oil is at least three million barrels a day. Sack any Alhaji in NNPC who is a stumbling block.

10. Peg the naira at 300 to the dollar by a command economy. Change or redominate the current as well.

11. Regionalize.

12. Make the NASS a part time job. Take away all the privileges and excess salaries. Make it a uni cameral legislature.

13. Make Nigeria a force to reckon with for the good of Africa and the black man on the international stage. Work towards a United States of Africa.

14. Abandon the dollar in favour of other currencies.

15. Death sentence for corruption in public office.

Just a few thoughts.
Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by mfm04622: 10:38am On Jul 07
alphaNomega:
i do that every day. nothing like that

We are humans! We see only what we want to see! I can assure you that all 3 countries are worse off security wise since the coupists took over
Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by Padipadi: 11:15am On Jul 07
Lavor234:
If they are thriving without Ecowas why should they. It is a voluntary organisation that does no one no good.
There was Ecowas and Malians and Burkinabe were facing a horrendous onslaught from Tuaregs/fulani.
We wey we
dey Ecowas, what has been it's benefits?
No benefits o!
It's time Nigeria pull out of ECOWAS if it has ever sabotaged our fight against terrorism!
In fact, I wan know stats of terror prevalence in West Africa. If Nigeria carry first, then we v failed!

Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by Gandrova: 12:03pm On Jul 07
Chiefpriestt:
You're mistaking me for your father
Am referring to your Grandpa grin
Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by alphaNomega: 2:53pm On Jul 07
mfm04622:


We are humans! We see only what we want to see! I can assure you that all 3 countries are worse off security wise since the coupists took over
if you say so
Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by alphaNomega: 2:54pm On Jul 07
DeepSight:


1. Arrest all former Heads of State immediately. And most former ministers and governors and senators. Make them vomit what they have stolen. It will be many billions of dollars.

2. Re introduce subsidies without corruption - the cost will be vastly lower

3. Make sure the refineries work.

4. Focus on electricity. It will kickstart the economy.

5. Aggressively industrialize. Demand that cars, telephones, laptops etc are made in Nigeria. Tell Toyota, Benz, Honda, Samsung, Tesla, etc that they can't sell in Nigeria without building factories here.

6. Create plantations across the country for mass agriculture and begin to export cash crops.

7. Solid minerals. Mine them aggressively and take away the gold cabal in Zamfara.

8. Natural Gas - Power it up to sell beyond oil.

9. Exit OPEC and ensure production of oil is at least three million barrels a day. Sack any Alhaji in NNPC who is a stumbling block.

10. Peg the naira at 300 to the dollar by a command economy. Change or redominate the current as well.

11. Regionalize.

12. Make the NASS a part time job. Take away all the privileges and excess salaries. Make it a uni cameral legislature.

13. Make Nigeria a force to reckon with for the good of Africa and the black man on the international stage. Work towards a United States of Africa.

14. Abandon the dollar in favour of other currencies.

15. Death sentence for corruption in public office.

Just a few thoughts.
number 15 would fix many things by itself
Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by AnyanwuSK: 3:24pm On Jul 07
Paraman:
Bye bye

ECOWAS shouldn't have lifted some of the sanctions.


ECOWAS ABI Tinubu?

Who stopped Nigerians from Sanctioning them again?
You claim to come from Rivers State, why don't you want the freedom of your fellow Africans in Multipolar world?
Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by Paraman: 3:59pm On Jul 07
AnyanwuSK:


ECOWAS ABI Tinubu?

Who stopped Nigerians from Sanctioning them again?
You claim to come from Rivers State, why don't you want the freedom of your fellow Africans in Multipolar world?
ECOWAS sanctioned the 3 countries, you're here wailing about what i don't understand. Well, I no get time for your chidish ranting
Re: Niger, Mali, Burkina Not Going Back To ECOWAS – General Tiani by AnyanwuSK: 4:13pm On Jul 07
Paraman:
ECOWAS sanctioned the 3 countries, you're here wailing about what i don't understand. Well, I no get time for your chidish ranting


ECOWAS that's begging those countries sanctioned them?

Well, ECOWAS sanctioned itself because it hurt ECOWAS most, that's why they relieved themselves.

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