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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Deeegbee: 1:28pm On Jul 09
raymondFirstborn:


I didn't compel him, To keep his tools . We closed December, gave him funds. He decided on his own to leave his tools for the holiday. He had a choice.

The guy said you and your team compelled him leave the working tools on your site.

Who is telling the truth and who is lying?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by staffsonsreal: 1:44pm On Jul 09
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 1:56pm On Jul 09
Deeegbee:


The guy said you and your team compelled him leave the working tools on your site.

Who is telling the truth and who is lying?
we didn't compel him. Let's allow the issue die.
He has achieved his objective, which was to walk way with my N1m+ balance and You guys here allowed it.
Peace profound 🙏

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Olumighty123(m): 2:33pm On Jul 09
raymondFirstborn:
we didn't compel him. Let's allow the issue die.
He has achieved his objective, which was to walk way with my N1m+ balance and You guys here allowed it.
Peace profound 🙏

Don't play the victim card sir, there was a chat showing you guaranteed the safety of his tools at your site.. Now you trying to blame people here for judging the right thing is not a good one. Regards
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 2:36pm On Jul 09
Objective and open minded intervention all round.
A member here who last engaged next and had issues with him borrowed some money from me with a promise to pay back within the week since last year.
He wanted to borrow much more but I only offered what I knew wouldn't hurt me too much to lose. I was already skeptical and he called me to reassure me it was him.
He had already tried to set the stage earlier borrowing in little amount claiming scarcity of naira and wanting to pay extra back even though I rejected it that it was against my faith to collect interest on money much to his annoyance.
Perhaps someone anticipating extra more payment would have eventually parted with more money.
I've been fortunate to interact with the best of clients that I wouldn't have had opportunity to interact with and they are very accessible, understanding and willing to see growth of others. I wish I could show more appreciation but have to respect privacy and not abuse privilege.
Having said that, there are sometimes the 1% that are regular Nigerian and being a potential home owner doesn't make them saints which was why I emphasized on open hearing from all parties and not be quick to assume a vendor is always at fault.
I've had unpleasant experience with two other people that had issues with next here many years back which makes me wonder if there was something that makes them allegedly fall prey and inability to do anything legally with the so much confidence next exhibits.
I still believe this platform is relatively effective in getting reviews for due diligence with the fear of loss of future patronage deterring contractors.
We've had small minded contractors fallen for instant gratification with clients monies and lost opportunities to make consistent multiplefolds of it over time but others wouldn't even be aware of it was offline or on another platform.
Clients should always ask questions and do due diligence and even after that and something doesn't seem right, do what's in their own interest.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by floshady02: 2:36pm On Jul 09
@raymondFirstborn both party should find a way to sort issues out. Dragging eachother on here is not appropriate. And also, this particular thread has been here since 2015. Those who started this thread with oga mufutau know themselves with those who has kept this thread active since 2015. Beware of the new comers coming to post sudden advert on this thread especially if you’re a potential client. Ask questions and recommendations from those that have been on this thread for long before you deal with anyone. Else, you might fall victim of what you won’t like. Majority of the names in this list started this thread together with @mufutau55 who created this thread and have built this thread since 2015 that everyone is now enjoying and benefiting from.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Deeegbee: 2:40pm On Jul 09
raymondFirstborn:
we didn't compel him. Let's allow the issue die.
He has achieved his objective, which was to walk way with my N1m+ balance and You guys here allowed it.
Peace profound 🙏

Don’t guilt trip us here, because nobody said he should walk away with your balance !

Both of you brought the issue here for people to mediate!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Akerewe(m): 3:59pm On Jul 09
Adedward:

4*5= #75,000
3*4= # 60,000
2*2= #35,000

Sliding
2*2= #25,000

Adeward am bn advice to run from u as u can see, who & who can vouch for you on this thread?? Let them come out nd vouch for you base on ur job delivery nd Integrity with them.

Then how do u intend to sought out thins with this particular guy calling you out??

Don't forget that ORUKO RERE, OSANJU WURA ATI FADAKA LO!

Drop ur WhatsApp number here nd ur office address.


If no one can vouch for you on this thread then you have a lot of job to do

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dangoteinlaw: 4:06pm On Jul 09
On this thread, it is common for clients to think they can always get away with cheating on their employee as long as they are the one who employed them but that is not the case this time. You assured someone your site was safe for his tools and they have all been stolen and you think you can come here to guilt trip anyone to stand with you? This is what the majority of clients have done to damage many professionals' reputations here.

One fool came out to say that I insulted him, but he forgot to mention that my money is still with him and that I cursed the hell out of him because he would not pay my remaining amount.

Hatesin is another madman who wonders about threads insulting everyone like a madman but yet he feels he has the right to talk to a professional here anyhow he wants.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 4:43pm On Jul 09
[quote author=Akerewe post=130872618].
Sir, good afternoon, let's answer u one after the other,

I have many achievement here, by nairalander which I can't even count, delivered to many state, many years till date, even I can say 85% of my clients are here they know me, at same time I can not be calling them offline to voice out, if they do so, it's fine, do ur findings about me, if I am scarm use next shop, am very sure about my self thanks

Point 2. If u go through the matter u will understand it's not matter of calling out, if u afraid who to kill u, u will end up killing ur self, he brought the matter here, when he has some steps to take and refusing to take it, become I am artisan, should I be using my self as slave to him, the matter is that he didn't call me out oo, he came out to understand what he don't know,

My wasp
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Akerewe(m): 4:50pm On Jul 09
[quote author=Adedward post=130873411][/quote]

No wahala Mr. As Edward, I will contact you while also running my background verification.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 5:17pm On Jul 09
Akerewe:


Adeward am bn advice to run from u as u can see, who & who can vouch for you on this thread?? Let them come out nd vouch for you base on ur job delivery nd Integrity with them.

Then how do u intend to sought out thins with this particular guy calling you out??

Don't forget that ORUKO RERE, OSANJU WURA ATI FADAKA LO!

Drop ur WhatsApp number here nd ur office address.


If no one can vouch for you on this thread then you have a lot of job to do

One thing you should know. He didn't do any of the fabrication work on my site himself. He has two fabricators working for him. He Only came to my site twice. Aside that the boys working for him are fast and good.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Akerewe(m): 5:24pm On Jul 09
raymondFirstborn:


One thing you should know. He didn't do any of the fabrication work on my site himself. He has two fabricators working for him. He Only came to my site twice. Aside that the boys working for him are fast and good.

Wow! Interesting. U mean he's a MIDDLE MAN?? no wahala, this is a nice info, my background check continues
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MDDarah84(m): 5:53pm On Jul 09
People of God, please help look at this estimate from my handler to construct a 3 bedroom ensuite bungalow...blockworks from foundation till the end
ESTIMATE FOR ROD WORK

(1) 12MM 40 LENTS × ₦10,000 = ₦400,000

(2) 10mm 30lent × ₦8000 = ₦240,000

(3) 8mm 40 × ₦5500 = ₦220,000

(4) band wires ₦40,000

(5) TRANSPORT ₦20,000

(6) WORKMANSHIP = #155,000

BRICKLAYING WORK

1, 5000 6 inches block at #600 per block = 5000 x #600 = #3,000,000

2, cement, Block settings 150 bags x7800 #1,170,000

3, cement for blinding 30 bags x 7800 = #234,000

4, cement for volume and lintels 50 bags x7800 #390,000

6, sharp sand 5 loads of 10 tyres = #750,000

8, Digging and clearing = 100,000

9, setting out = 50, 000

10, blinding = 60,000

11, block setting to Dpc = 175,000

12, back filling, rammed and casting of Dpc = 250,000

13, block setting, lintels, and columns to finish = 850,000


15, plastering= 700,000

16, 49 tons of granite with transportation= 708, 000

17, literate for filling four loads = 280,000

18, High polisterine mesh 4 bundles at #162,000

TOTAL = #9,050,000

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 5:56pm On Jul 09
Akerewe:


Wow! Interesting. U mean he's a MIDDLE MAN?? no wahala, this is a nice info, my background check continues
he doesn't need to do the heavy lifting himself to be the fabricator. He can be engaged in more than two sites and wouldn't have to do the whole thing himself.

I'm a welder and at any point in ti, I have two people working at my workshop daily. The more jobs I am engaged with, the extra hands I get. It doesn't make me a middleman or something like that


Attached are pictures of two people who are working for me right now. Others are still engaged and others closed for the day

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 6:27pm On Jul 09
michlins:
he doesn't need to do the heavy lifting himself to be the fabricator. He can be engaged in more than two sites and wouldn't have to do the whole thing himself.

I'm a welder and at any point in ti, I have two people working at my workshop daily. The more jobs I am engaged with, the extra hands I get. It doesn't make me a middleman or something like that


Attached are pictures of two people who are working for me right now. Others are still engaged and others closed for the day

This is understandable. But two months of intensive fabrication and you only come twice is that the usual thing?.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 6:48pm On Jul 09
raymondFirstborn:


This is understandable. But two months of intensive fabrication and you only come twice is that the usual thing?.
I don't usually work on site. I do most of my fabrications at my workshop and then move with workers to site. Depending on the nature of the job, I can sleep over or leave same day while my workers do the installation.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 7:22pm On Jul 09
raymondFirstborn:


This is understandable. But two months of intensive fabrication and you only come twice is that the usual thing?.

Honourable, look at the situation this way:

If the tradesperson contacted you that your materials have been stolen at his business premises, what would be your expectations?

My expectations would include the tradesperson replacing the stolen materials through their insurance or from their pocket. The insurance (security) of any business premises is the responsibility of the "registered" owner.

From your own account, you are the resident contractor at that site. You are responsible to provide insurance (security) for all goods stored overnight. Three cases of theft are alleged to have been reported to you. It is your responsibility to investigate the thefts and take appropriate actions which could include instructing that no tools should be stored overnight at site and further to advise all that any tools and materials stored overnight are at owners risk.

From your own account, you have failed to do the above. As the resident contractor, your insurance is liable for any theft at site for goods and materials stored overnight.

You should sit him down over a cold drink and arrive at a reasonable compensation for his missing tools.

I am sorry, but you have not managed your site to the standard expected from a multi million project.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by cibekow: 7:27pm On Jul 09
Adedward:
u promised me that ur site was save, and they stole materials Worth of 3m and tools worth of 1m, and u are asking me to come and start working, what do u think u are doing, if u ready u know what to do, u are not competent to handle a site,
kindly list the tools that where stolen

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DFAMEGUY11S(m): 7:40pm On Jul 09
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Akerewe(m): 8:04pm On Jul 09
raymondFirstborn:
ADEYEMO IDOWU EDWARD
0213151983
GTBank Plc

This is his account details and name. Please do. Not transact with Adedward.

Meanwhile since the incident of theft. Adedward has not visited the site since March till now. He only sent his boys in month of March. But personally he hasn't made any effort to recover any of the missing materials. No police report from him nothing.

Even when I promised to rent tools for him , to continue he said he won't continue till buy new tools. Generator and cutting machine.

But as a resident and direct engineer on site, it's ur duty to report the incident to the police and other law enforcement agencies. Even if adedward repoted the incident on ur behalf, u would still be invited by the police as the original onsite engineer.

This adedward is a third party contractor working temporary on a project and am sure the owner of the project doesn't know who the fabricator was. In fact before he can enter the estate, permission need be sought from you to know if u really hired him to work for you on that site.

Still, other occupants might challenge him if u r not on site as to know y he's within the estate except they saw him working.

U guys should settle this issue within ur self.

I once hired an iron bender nd his team nd before they came back the next day, all left over offcut iron rod nd ring stolen from the site. I have no choice than to buy additional materials for them to complete their job.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by floshady02: 8:12pm On Jul 09
@MDDarah84 why not share your drawing. This way engineers in the house will be able to give you answers.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Buharidgeneral: 8:35pm On Jul 09
DFAMEGUY11S:
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 9:05pm On Jul 09
Akerewe:


Wow! Interesting. U mean he's a MIDDLE MAN?? no wahala, this is a nice info, my background check continues
hmmm, who is middle man, he is saying what he doesn't know, the boy that worked in his site, I just do graduation for him, last December, I can send u the picture of him to confirm,
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Akerewe(m): 9:30pm On Jul 09
Adedward:
hmmm, who is middle man, he is saying what he doesn't know, the boy that worked in his site, I just do graduation for him, last December, I can send u the picture of him to confirm,

I thought as much, it's just my way of response, u guys should just try to settle it amicably not cos of today
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MrOkenwa(m): 9:52pm On Jul 09
Godstime001:
Bro do u have ideal like how much can build 3 bedroom house. Land aside.
I have no idea. I haven’t been involved in any building project in almost 1 year.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MrOkenwa(m): 9:57pm On Jul 09
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How much would you charge to ship 25kg ofada rice to Manchester, UK?
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 10:08pm On Jul 09
Akerewe:


I thought as much, it's just my way of response, u guys should just try to settle it amicably not cos of today
he is the one that brought it here, he claims if he bring the matter here I will loose clients,
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rmx: 10:22pm On Jul 09
floshady02:
@raymondFirstborn you guys are just bringing yourselves down on this thread. What potential client would read all these allegations and still want to patronize y’all. Na wa ooo

My thoughts exactly
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MDDarah84(m): 11:09pm On Jul 09
MDDarah84:
People of God, please help look at this estimate from my handler to construct a 3 bedroom ensuite bungalow...blockworks from foundation till the end
ESTIMATE FOR ROD WORK

(1) 12MM 40 LENTS × ₦10,000 = ₦400,000

(2) 10mm 30lent × ₦8000 = ₦240,000

(3) 8mm 40 × ₦5500 = ₦220,000

(4) band wires ₦40,000

(5) TRANSPORT ₦20,000

(6) WORKMANSHIP = #155,000

BRICKLAYING WORK

1, 5000 6 inches block at #600 per block = 5000 x #600 = #3,000,000

2, cement, Block settings 150 bags x7800 #1,170,000

3, cement for blinding 30 bags x 7800 = #234,000

4, cement for volume and lintels 50 bags x7800 #390,000

6, sharp sand 5 loads of 10 tyres = #750,000

8, Digging and clearing = 100,000

9, setting out = 50, 000

10, blinding = 60,000

11, block setting to Dpc = 175,000

12, back filling, rammed and casting of Dpc = 250,000

13, block setting, lintels, and columns to finish = 850,000


15, plastering= 700,000

16, 49 tons of granite with transportation= 708, 000

17, literate for filling four loads = 280,000

18, High polisterine mesh 4 bundles at #162,000

TOTAL = #9,050,000

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