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Adeward did my windows in Benin City in February this year. I didn't have any issue with him and he actually doesn't even know my NL name.
Whatever ever happened between him and Raymond should have been sorted out by themselves and not this chest beating.

diordaves:


Honourable, look at the situation this way:

If the tradesperson contacted you that your materials have been stolen at his business premises, what would be your expectations?

My expectations would include the tradesperson replacing the stolen materials through their insurance or from their pocket. The insurance (security) of any business premises is the responsibility of the "registered" owner.

From your own account, you are the resident contractor at that site. You are responsible to provide insurance (security) for all goods stored overnight. Three cases of theft are alleged to have been reported to you. It is your responsibility to investigate the thefts and take appropriate actions which could include instructing that no tools should be stored overnight at site and further to advise all that any tools and materials stored overnight are at owners risk.

From your own account, you have failed to do the above. As the resident contractor, your insurance is liable for any theft at site for goods and materials stored overnight.

You should sit him down over a cold drink and arrive at a reasonable compensation for his missing tools.

I am sorry, but you have not managed your site to the standard expected from a multi million project.

From your comment you have not held the sub contractor liable . Meaning contractor bears 100% loss. wow.

Your not even taking about shared responsibility. At this point Nigerians need to start taking law classes.
Meanwhile theft was reported to the estate CSO. some top security staff were sacked. We have even installed cctv cameras after the event.

raymondFirstborn:

From your comment you have not held the sub contractor liable . Meaning contractor bears 100% loss. wow.

Your not even taking about shared responsibility. At this point Nigerians need to start taking law classes.
Meanwhile theft was reported to the estate CSO. some top security staff were sacked. We have even installed cctv cameras after the event.

let me make you to understand this thing. Late last year, someone contacted me for railings,I was almost through with the makings when thieves came and bundled everything, I didn't even call the owner for one day until he asked me what was delaying his job. I explained my predicament to him and went on to replace and complete his job without him adding a Kobo to it. Same year, someone came to my shop and paid for four doors with the keys, told me he was coming same day to pick up. Two days later,he came and no one could explain what happened to his doors, I replaced them completely and he didn't pay me a dime.

For you to ask him to move materials to your site (probably to ensure that he's working and that your money is safe), you're completely responsible for the safety of the materials and tools. If after the first stealing incident, you still went on to insist he continues working on the site without you providing better security, that ensures that you're very much responsible. You should have provided private security and CCTV camera system to ensure ultimate security.


Like this, I expect that you have an inventory of what has gone missing and you should use same inventory to replace same. As for his tools, you're buying them as well. These are your responsibility 100% and he owes you nothing in the eyes of the law. But because we're humans,he can choose to bear some (at his discretion). Just use your inventory to buy the stolen materials and tools. Whether or not he has bought the glass will happen after you have done these things.

Since you're very sure about the security of the estate, you can take up this incident with your lawyers to enable you recoup some of the losses.


Calling him out like this to jeopardise his chances of getting his chances of getting jobs here is complete wickedness.

Buharidgeneral:

How much is the bathroom doors

95000

raymondFirstborn:

From your comment you have not held the sub contractor liable . Meaning contractor bears 100% loss. wow.

Your not even taking about shared responsibility. At this point Nigerians need to start taking law classes.
Meanwhile theft was reported to the estate CSO. some top security staff were sacked. We have even installed cctv cameras after the event.

I have been reading your back and forth with the artisan you contracted but just decided to keep quiet even when I feel you are the wrong party because I know the pain of the loss you are facing.

But at this point, it appears you are being deliberately unaware/mischievous.

1. The theft happened in your supposedly secure estate.

2. You gave assurance on the security of your facility.

3. It didn't happen once or twice but 3 times and you were informed each of those times.

These 3 points alone means you should be taking all responsibility for what happened at that site. Even if the fabricator stole those things as you tried insinuating, your inability to safeguard your site and ensure he didn't steal them means you must be the one to pay.

You want an artisan to go an help you report theft that happened in your estate? A secure estate where he is just a worker? Wetin exactly he wan tell police?

Move on bro and stop saying these things you're saying here.

Please house, how much is screeding done now per sqm.

Material + workmanship

I currently have an offer of 1700/sqm

Billions123:
Please house, how much is screeding done now per sqm.

Material + workmanship

I currently have an offer of 1700/sqm

Your location? We charge 1500

Please house, how much is this white cement sold now per bag

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Is the guy in the picture a Nigerian?

Looking for recommendations on someone that can do compound flooring exceedingly well.

Location is in Ibadan.

Thanks.

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This is great, no wahala, thanks for the validation!

michlins:
let me make you to understand this thing. Late last year, someone contacted me for railings,I was almost through with the makings when thieves came and bundled everything, I didn't even call the owner for one day until he asked me what was delaying his job. I explained my predicament to him and went on to replace and complete his job without him adding a Kobo to it. Same year, someone came to my shop and paid for four doors with the keys, told me he was coming same day to pick up. Two days later,he came and no one could explain what happened to his doors, I replaced them completely and he didn't pay me a dime.

For you to ask him to move materials to your site (probably to ensure that he's working and that your money is safe), you're completely responsible for the safety of the materials and tools. If after the first stealing incident, you still went on to insist he continues working on the site without you providing better security, that ensures that you're very much responsible. You should have provided private security and CCTV camera system to ensure ultimate security.


Like this, I expect that you have an inventory of what has gone missing and you should use same inventory to replace same. As for his tools, you're buying them as well. These are your responsibility 100% and he owes you nothing in the eyes of the law. But because we're humans,he can choose to bear some (at his discretion). Just use your inventory to buy the stolen materials and tools. Whether or not he has bought the glass will happen after you have done these things.

Since you're very sure about the security of the estate, you can take up this incident with your lawyers to enable you recoup some of the losses.


Calling him out like this to jeopardise his chances of getting his chances of getting jobs here is complete wickedness.

he didn't wicked me, he call me out to be great more, by the grace of GOD my account number that was posted yesterday, one of my new client here was paid to it, he said he had seen my account on line that I should not bother again, den I believed there is elder in the house,

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Adedward:
he didn't wicked me, he call me out to be great more, by the grace of GOD my account number that was posted yesterday, one of my new client here was paid to it, he said he had seen my account on line that I should not bother again, den I believed there is elder in the house,

you sef should drag your customer with respect. Body dey pepper him and that's why he's lashing out. He likes you and wants your success and that's why he patronized you out of plethora of options available to him.


Good luck

michlins:
you sef should drag your customer with respect. Body dey pepper him and that's why he's lashing out. He likes you and wants your success and that's why he patronized you out of plethora of options available to him.


Good luck

you supplied materials to a site and they stole part of it the first time, did the same the second and third time and you still left your equipment there>? cause the engr say so.. Na i wont do that my brother.. even though the engr should share most of the blame the sub contractor should also take part.

michlins:
you sef should drag your customer with respect. Body dey pepper him and that's why he's lashing out. He likes you and wants your success and that's why he patronized you out of plethora of options available to him.


Good luck

But the way Raymond is going about it is very wrong, you gave an insurance that his tools will be safe, both tools and materials for the job were stolen, next you ask him to come and finish job ,that you will rent tools for him.

Haba think about it very well, Raymond is after his own job been completed and afterwards he will leave Adedward to his fate.

Online Nairaland judges should always looks at a case critically before judging.

twinskenny:


you supplied materials to a site and they stole part of it the first time, did the same the second and third time and you still left your equipment there>? cause the engr say so.. Na i wont do that my brother.. even though the engr should share most of the blame the sub contractor should also take part.

This is exactly my thoughts as well. The fact that Adedward knew about the lack of safety at the site and still left his tools there because of reassurances from the site Engr makes him partly responsible. If there were no previous incidents of theft, then the Engr would have been fully responsible.

Rany4all:
This is exactly my thoughts as well. The fact that Adedward knew about the lack of safety at the site and still left his tools there because of reassurances from the site Engr makes him partly responsible. If there were no previous incidents of theft, then the Engr would have been fully responsible.

The estate security should be questioned! trust with police someone will talk, there is no way such materials will leave site and the estate security wont know about it... unless ENgr raymond just want to let go

jiday4:


But the way Raymond is going about it is very wrong, you gave an insurance that his tools will be safe, both tools and materials for the job were stolen, next you ask him to come and finish job ,that you will rent tools for him.

Haba think about it very well, Raymond is after his own job been completed and afterwards he will leave Adedward to his fate.

Online Nairaland judges should always looks at a case critically before judging.

if you check above, I have healed the blame on the feet of the engineer 100% no cap. It's entirely his fault and no one else's

twinskenny:


you supplied materials to a site and they stole part of it the first time, did the same the second and third time and you still left your equipment there>? cause the engr say so.. Na i wont do that my brother.. even though the engr should share most of the blame the sub contractor should also take part.

Honestly this one is why he shares some blame. If you insist that your materials should be left on site, I will do that and take my tools.

First time is a mistake, second and third time is orchestrated act. If maximum pressure is applied, the estate security will be forced to produce those materials completely. Unless of course there is something we're not being told

bolu1986:



The estate security should be questioned! trust with police someone will talk, there is no way such materials will leave site and the estate security wont know about it... unless ENgr raymond just want to let go

True! The whole thing smells like an organized inside job.

Rany4all:
True! The whole thing smells like an organized inside job.

yes my brother

this are not hidden materials,

generator, fabricated windwos, etc haba

EgunMogaji2:
Looking for recommendations on someone that can do compound flooring exceedingly well.

Location is in Ibadan.

Thanks.

If it's Stamped Concrete Floor, we can do that for you sir.

michlins:
if you check above, I have healed the blame on the feet of the engineer 100% no cap. It's entirely his fault and no one else's

Honestly this one is why he shares some blame. If you insist that your materials should be left on site, I will do that and take my tools.

First time is a mistake, second and third time is orchestrated act. If maximum pressure is applied, the estate security will be forced to produce those materials completely. Unless of course there is something we're not being told

For me it's a planned work, the Estate Security should be taken to police station let them spend a week there, they will talk .
Raymond could have done better but nairaland hian, people will see black and call it blue

fashrola:
Dear Gents.... I want to ask a question

I have bathroom/Inspo idea i saw online, and currently i'm building though not yet to the plumbing stage.

When do interior designer comes in to make this inspo a reality?

Do they handle the plumbing jobs or after the plumbing has been done by a different artisan........ Or do they get to handle all the plumbing jobs at once?

Except your plumber ain't a pro n proximity of the interior designer, interior designer can come in after plumbing pipes are installed but we prefer being involved immediately after roofing is concluded even before any pipe(electrical,mechanical) is done

Geekop:


If it's Stamped Concrete Floor, we can do that for you sir.

Nothing on your profile indicates your expertise in this area.

Thanks.

Just a quick heads up.

Artisans needs to take personal responsibility serious.

Some years back, maybe a decade ago, artisans were being lured to the east and thankfully only robbed/kidnapped though I think a few were beaten up.

A few were from this very thread.

Good luck.

EgunMogaji2:


Nothing on your profile indicates your expertise in this area.

Thanks.

Please check all my topics. Not all are displayed. I have not been able to delete ones that are no longer relevant.
You can as well check Krafom_Engineering on IG sir.

fnglng:
Please house, how much is this white cement sold now per bag

is 13k

Using one of these specially made stainless door for our ongoing project … toilets entrance section

..I find it strange that materials of exactly 3M was/were stolen ..same for equipment worth 1M was/were stolen...
What equipment were/was stolen? And material?