bovali:


Please o, I didn’t say it’s dead because the founder is dead. The founder was a very intelligent woman. But even when she was alive, the company had serious debt issues which they are struggling with now. I’m giving you inside information for free. They don’t know how they will pay that debt back. I ignored the “not God” comment cause I’ve decided not to be emotional again on this thread. After all, it’s not my money they are using to trade.

I’m happy he did DD and saw that they have lost assets. Thank me later.

Further DD adviced

BullBearMkt:

@bovali, thanks for providing further insights. These are the kind of data/information that were not in your first post that made it a WISH.

As per the meaning of your original post, since[b] I went to evening school[/b]; I simply asked CHATGPT to explain it to a 12 year old. See result below:

Imagine there's a popular restaurant everyone loves because the owner, who started it, was really good at cooking and making people happy. But then, sadly, the owner passed away. After that, the restaurant isn't as good anymore. It's kind of like the restaurant "died" because it's no longer the special place it used to be. That's what's being said about this company. It was great when the founder was around, but now it's not the same and isn't doing well anymore.

Laso09:


I don't think bovali is wrong to say that the company is dead, and that is not because the owner is no more.
Looking at the company financials, the fundamentally inclined analyst will most likely agree with her on the viability of the company.
That is not rulling out the possibility of resuscitation and the possibility of people making money by trading the company shares. After all people have been making money trading dead companies for ages.

BullBearMkt:

...I will jump & pass your addendum

Streetinvestor2:
OK boss.For me and household we are not buying because we can see better choice in other banks

Laso09:


You be correct oga now .
But seriously I find it very hard to trade some stocks when I look at their books even though they have a good technical set-up.
I have been looking for ways to manage this.

naturalflow:
YOUR OMATEK IS YET TO DELIVER.

BullBearMkt:

I agree with you! FA people will basically disregard some stocks TA says it's ready to rise; finding common ground is the best - use FA to screen "your best stocks", then use TA for good entry.

BullBearMkt:

I agree with you! FA people will basically disregard some stocks TA says it's ready to rise; finding common ground is the best - use FA to screen "your best stocks", then use TA for good entry.

Raider76:


Besides FA I think TA also need to be combined with sentiment considerations, especially in the NGX. The current case of ETERNA is an example. TA in this case got help from hightened sentiment around the reported Dangote refinery dealership for ETERNA.

BullBearMkt:

@bovali, thanks for providing further insights. These are the kind of data/information that were not in your first post that made it a WISH.

As per the meaning of your original post, since I went to evening school; I simply asked CHATGPT to explain it to a 12 year old. See result below:

Imagine there's a popular restaurant everyone loves because the owner, who started it, was really good at cooking and making people happy. But then, sadly, the owner passed away. After that, the restaurant isn't as good anymore. It's kind of like the restaurant "died" because it's no longer the special place it used to be. That's what's being said about this company. It was great when the founder was around, but now it's not the same and isn't doing well anymore.

BullBearMkt:

@bovali, thanks for providing further insights. These are the kind of data/information that were not in your first post that made it a WISH.

As per the meaning of your original post, since I went to evening school; I simply asked CHATGPT to explain it to a 12 year old. See result below:

Imagine there's a popular restaurant everyone loves because the owner, who started it, was really good at cooking and making people happy. But then, sadly, the owner passed away. After that, the restaurant isn't as good anymore. It's kind of like the restaurant "died" because it's no longer the special place it used to be. That's what's being said about this company. It was great when the founder was around, but now it's not the same and isn't doing well anymore.

bovali:


I will be more detailed next time. Thanks . Didn't even reason it like that before. I love this forum, iron truly sharpen iron. Lots of bright minds to learn from here.

Laso09:


You be correct oga now .
But seriously I find it very hard to trade some stocks when I look at their books even though they have a good technical set-up.
I have been looking for ways to manage this.

BullBearMkt:

...In all modesty, TA includes sentiments. The candlesticks, market breadths, volumes etc; all are measurements of sentiments and emotions. What you described about ETERNA and Dangote Refinery was not even a factor.

KayOn1:
Cadbury will get to N20 at the very least short-term.

** Do your DD sha.

onegentleguy:

For those that subscribed late to my outline and investment guide--series 1, pls look through your outline.
There's this coy among the very few stock that's yet to deliver massive gains. (over 70% already did so well)
...it's under the heading; "Additional investment guide", which I gave as a bonus pick.
There are 2 asset names that were analyzed therein, inclusive of TA. (chart breakdown)
Recall that one of them already delivered over 127% ROI after the spike from it's TEP of N2.8--2.9 to over N6.43.
The 2nd coy, though has returned over 18% gain, is now "fueling up" for a great run in price.
....49--61% return from TEP level is feasible.

A reminder;
The coy is among the asset names that benefits from current macroeconomic trend.
...it's operating sector is well positioned to build grosses and nets having a strong pricing power across her largely inelastic product line.

Pls take position if you're yet to do so... otherwise hold if you're already in.

Fundamentally, recent financial report shows a material improvement across several key revenue and earnings line with AER, CGPR, ROCE, R/CROIC, and EM all looking up.
....I particularly like the correction in CBR as the company embarks on further restructuring of her BS through a progressive but systemic cost optimization approach.

Using a blend of appropriate valuation model that assumes just a 15% growth in Q2/Q1 and trails same to YE, 2024 but also rakes-off surrounding risk, FVE pegs @ a triple-digit % premium to CMP.
....and that's a conservative estimate.

Even the 1st coy that returned over 127% as stated above is now at a sweet spot for reentry following a corrective wave to a strong PSZ.
My system has just signaled the possibility of another price appreciation by a 30--41% margin from CMP.

Again, take position... HOLD!

it is well

Laso09:


I think that is what OGG is saying.
Those guys will prefer you don't take up your right.
They will be more than happy to take it up.

BullBearMkt:

I agree with you! FA people will basically disregard some stocks TA says it's ready to rise; finding common ground is the best - use FA to screen "your best stocks", then use TA for good entry.

naturalflow:
YOUR OMATEK IS YET TO DELIVER.

Streetinvestor2:
On a serious note does TA really determine good entry point since we can't not time the market.

naturalflow:
so we have many people in this omatek bus.interesting,wetin una find enter this kind bus?nice one bovali you have said it all. we are trying to save people in oando bus not knowing that there are some in the OMA OMA omalicha bus.

KayOn1:


Technically, It will. Above 80% of people that bought after Nov 2023, bought above .69 and smart money that bought mostly @.44 sold above 1.

Just trade what you see on the floor. Investors can go ahead with ...

Na money I dey ... but I will not MH

BullBearMkt:

...I don't like using the word, "time the market". No humans can control time, leave time for the gods. What TA made available are:
1. Buy cheap and sell high
2. Loss management

We have control over the 2 mentioned above, AND anyone that have control over 3. - EMOTIONS; the combination of these 3 will make you money in the market.

naturalflow:
People buying livestock feeds because the FG is setting up a ministry of livestock.

naturalflow:
so we have many people in this omatek bus.interesting,wetin una find enter this kind bus?nice one bovali you have said it all.we are trying to save people in oando bus not knowing that there are some in the OMA OMA omalicha bus.

Agbalowomeri:


Me I dey time market
If it takes 2 years to reach my yunction, so be it😂