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Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by Michael547(m): 7:23pm On Jul 09
MrBrownJay1:


already answered the above, again...

Lol....so no matter what the governments do to the people, they are always right? Yes or no sir?
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by MrBrownJay1(m): 7:27pm On Jul 09
Michael547:
Lol....so no matter what the governments do to the people, they are always right? Yes or no sir?

the gov of any country MAKE LAWS FOR THEIR COUNTRY and any person in that country whether citizen or foreigner must follow these laws (whether they agree with the law or not).
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by Michael547(m): 7:28pm On Jul 09
MrBrownJay1:


the gov of any country MAKE LAWS FOR THEIR COUNTRY and any peson in that country whether citizen or foreigner must follow these laws (whether they agree with the law or not).
Lol...smart man......are you saying that no matter what law the people in governments give to the people, they are always right? Yes or no sir?
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by MrBrownJay1(m): 10:25pm On Jul 09
Michael547:
Lol...smart man......are you saying that no matter what law the people in governments give to the people, they are always right?

again...

MrBrownJay1:
you cant expect everyone to agree with a country's law... but these are the laws that were voted by that country therefore you must abide by these laws OR take the necessary steps to change these laws.
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by Michael547(m): 8:08am On Jul 10
MrBrownJay1:


again...

So if people in governments makes laws that causes suffering to the people, they are always right? Yes or no?
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by MrBrownJay1(m): 6:02pm On Jul 10
Michael547:
So if people in governments makes laws that causes suffering to the people, they are always right? Yes or no?

again...

MrBrownJay1:
you cant expect everyone to agree with a country's law... but these are the laws that were voted by that country therefore you must abide by these laws OR take the necessary steps to change these laws.
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by Michael547(m): 6:15pm On Jul 10
MrBrownJay1:


again...

Are the governments always right even though their laws causes suffering to the people? Yes or no sir?
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by MrBrownJay1(m): 6:46pm On Jul 10
Michael547:
Are the governments always right even though their laws causes suffering to the people? Yes or no sir?

again...

you cant expect everyone to agree with a country's law... but these are the laws that were voted by that country therefore you must abide by these laws OR take the necessary steps to change these laws.
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by Michael547(m): 12:51am On Jul 11
MrBrownJay1:


again...



Answer yes or no na.....I'm not asking you if citizens should obey or not. Here is my question again....

Are the governments always right even though their laws causes suffering to the people? Yes or no sir?
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by MrBrownJay1(m): 3:59pm On Jul 11
Michael547:

Answer yes or no na.....I'm not asking you if citizens should obey or not. Here is my question again....
Are the governments always right even though their laws causes suffering to the people? Yes or no sir?

you do know that the definition of INSANITY is "asking the same question over and over again, expecting a different answer", right?!

again...

you cant expect everyone to agree with a country's law... but these are the laws that were voted by that country therefore you must abide by these laws OR take the necessary steps to change these laws.
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by PastorAIO: 4:39pm On Jul 11
Michael547:

Lol....if we agree that the people in power have the right to determine what is good and bad for all humans on earth, then why should we outside power protest against whatever they come up with as laws?

[b]Romans 13
[/b]Obey Your Government Rulers

13 All of you must obey the government rulers. Everyone who rules was given the power to rule by God. And all those who rule now were given that power by God. 2 So anyone who is against the government is really against something God has commanded. Those who are against the government bring punishment on themselves.
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by Michael547(m): 5:19pm On Jul 11
MrBrownJay1:


you do know that the definition of INSANITY is "asking the same question over and over again, expecting a different answer", right?!

again...

Lol OK oo.....I have learnt from you that the government is always right whether they kill innocent people or not.....thank you sir.
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by MrBrownJay1(m): 5:36pm On Jul 11
Michael547:
Lol OK oo.....I have learnt from you that the government is always right whether they kill innocent people or not.....thank you sir.

whether the government is right or wrong, whether we agree with the law or not, we should always FOLLOW THE LAW
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by Michael547(m): 5:37pm On Jul 11
PastorAIO:


[b]Romans 13
[/b]Obey Your Government Rulers

13 All of you must obey the government rulers. Everyone who rules was given the power to rule by God. And all those who rule now were given that power by God. 2 So anyone who is against the government is really against something God has commanded. Those who are against the government bring punishment on themselves.
Should we protest against the rulers?
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by Michael547(m): 5:38pm On Jul 11
MrBrownJay1:


whether the government is right or wrong, whether we agree with the law or not, we should always FOLLOW THE LAW
Lol...even if the law of the government is to kill all of us, we should always obey. Thank you sir.
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by MrBrownJay1(m): 5:40pm On Jul 11
Michael547:
Lol...even if the law of the government is to kill all of us, we should always obey. Thank you sir.

YES!!! the law in many countries is to kill their criminals (aka death penalty)... i dont see anything wrong with that. do you?
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by PastorAIO: 5:43pm On Jul 11
Michael547:

Should we protest against the rulers?

According to Paul in the letter to the Romans the answer is No!

That is the Christian position o. Me, my thoughts on the matter are more nuanced.
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by Michael547(m): 6:33pm On Jul 11
MrBrownJay1:


YES!!! the law in many countries is to kill their criminals (aka death penalty)... i dont see anything wrong with that. do you?
What of governments that oppress and kill innocent people, are they also right?
Are the wars happening all over the world by different governments right?
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by MrBrownJay1(m): 6:40pm On Jul 11
Michael547:
What of governments that oppress and kill innocent people, are they also right?
Are the wars happening all over the world by different governments right?

some people will say YES, others will say NO... either way, you MUST ALWAYS FOLLOW THE LAW!

BTW dont fall for the hypocrisy of the world we live in today. when Ukraine is invaded and many innocent people are dying, the whole world is enraged... but when the exact same thing happens in Palestine, nobody bats an eyelid.
there is WAR and WAR, just like there is human being and human being...
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by PastorAIO: 6:56pm On Jul 11
MrBrownJay1:


some people will say YES, others will say NO... either way, you MUST ALWAYS FOLLOW THE LAW!

BTW dont fall for the hypocrisy of the world we live in today. when Ukraine is invaded and many innocent people are dying, the whole world is enraged... but when the exact same thing happens in Palestine, nobody bats an eyelid.
there is WAR and WAR, just like there is human being and human being...

You mean like there is Jew and Gentile. And while it is okay to Usure a gentile, presumably even to extortion, one must not usure a fellow jew.

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Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by FRANCISTOWN: 4:58am On Jul 12
IVYWonder9:
Is it true God truly hates Esau? The Bible shows us God is loving.
Something is revealed here; https://theskynow.com/2024/05/01/did-god-hate-esau-as-recorded-in-malachi-13/
Even if there was a God. That clown in the Bible does not fit into anything that can be called a God. He fits a perfect personality for a Devil. An embodiment of evil.
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by Michael547(m): 5:08am On Jul 12
MrBrownJay1:


some people will say YES, others will say NO... either way, you MUST ALWAYS FOLLOW THE LAW!

BTW dont fall for the hypocrisy of the world we live in today. when Ukraine is invaded and many innocent people are dying, the whole world is enraged... but when the exact same thing happens in Palestine, nobody bats an eyelid.
there is WAR and WAR, just like there is human being and human being...
I'm not asking about what people would say........I'm asking abouts your opinion.....are the governments right if they oppress and kill innocent citizens?
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by PastorAIO: 11:30am On Jul 12
Michael547:

I'm not asking about what people would say........I'm asking abouts your opinion.....are the governments right if they oppress and kill innocent citizens?

What do you think about St Paul's opinion on the matter? You don't seem to be interested in a biblical opinion. Abi you nor be christian?
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by Michael547(m): 2:02pm On Jul 12
PastorAIO:


What do you think about St Paul's opinion on the matter? You don't seem to be interested in a biblical opinion. Abi you nor be christian?
What did st Paul say? I'm interested in learning from you.
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by PastorAIO: 4:45pm On Jul 12
Michael547:

What did st Paul say? I'm interested in learning from you.

Romans 13

Obey Your Government Rulers

13 All of you must obey the government rulers. Everyone who rules was given the power to rule by God. And all those who rule now were given that power by God. 2 So anyone who is against the government is really against something God has commanded. Those who are against the government bring punishment on themselves.
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by Michael547(m): 5:22pm On Jul 12
PastorAIO:


Romans 13

Obey Your Government Rulers

13 All of you must obey the government rulers. Everyone who rules was given the power to rule by God. And all those who rule now were given that power by God. 2 So anyone who is against the government is really against something God has commanded. Those who are against the government bring punishment on themselves.
So you agree that people who protest against the government are wrong?
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by PastorAIO: 10:04am On Jul 13
Michael547:

So you agree that people who protest against the government are wrong?

There is very little written in the Bible that I agree with.
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by Michael547(m): 11:42am On Jul 13
PastorAIO:


There is very little written in the Bible that I agree with.
Lol....ok what about the question I asked? Do you agree?
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:30pm On Jul 13
MrBrownJay1:

you cant expect everyone to agree with a country's law... but these are the laws that were voted by that country therefore you must abide by these laws OR take the necessary steps to change these laws.

The moment you say:
MrBrownJay1:

that "god" is only a god of love if you obey him AND do exactly what he wants you to do... but if you do anything that this god is against, he will turn into the BIGGEST DEVIL ON EARTH! any god that allows MURDER; GENOCIDES AND ETHNIC CLEANSING; RAPE; SLAVERY; SELLING OF YOUR CHILDREN FOR PROSTITUTION; MUTILATION AND ABUSE OF CHILDREN; STONING; HUMAN SACRIFICE etc is an evil god!

I know you have been brainwashed by ATHEISM and your IQ will be so low that you will wrap yourself up in your own words.

Take it or leave it no human government is perfect enough to set laws for humans because they can't solve the problems facing their subjects so when the people protests it's due to partiality on the part of those in power.
The God you're antagonizing is the only solution to mankind's problems when talking about governance but since you have blacklisted Him in your mind and not ready to see reasons with what He did in the past (which is the only way forward) you will continue to lie to your own soul thinking wise people can't unravel the reason behind your frustration!
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by PastorAIO: 2:51pm On Jul 13
Michael547:

Lol....ok what about the question I asked? Do you agree?


Michael547:

What did st Paul say? I'm interested in learning from you.

You asked me what St Paul said and I showed you. I asked you a question and you refused to answer. Always responding with a question yourself but without answering what is asked of you.

I'm even beginning to suspect that you are an AI bot because a real human being would be more aware of the actual conversation and will be able to respond in a nuanced manner.

Anyway, I'll repeat. My very unbiblical opinion is that the proof of the pudding is in the eating of it. If you protest and get what you want then that is because 'God' the ultimate arbiter supports your protest. If you protest and you fail that is because your protest did not tally with "God's" will.
Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:13pm On Jul 13
PastorAIO:

My very unbiblical opinion.

Pastor!undecided

Re: If God Is Love, Then Why Hate Esau? by PastorAIO: 3:59pm On Jul 13
MaxInDHouse:


Pastor!undecided

LOL! Are you making satire of yourself?

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