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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by muhammaduyusufu: 3:06pm On Jul 09
DMerciful:
Are you from Ikwerre?
Are you ikwerre too?
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by StreetMedia: 9:16pm On Jul 09
Gajagojo:


The same Ikwerre that attended the Willinks Commission before independence
Why did they do that?

The same Ikwerre that formed Ogbakor Ikwerre before Ohanaeze
Why did they do that?

The same Ikwerre that commissioned the Ikwerre bible
Why did they do that?

We are driving same point.
Ikwerre has been there with the GBOs thus making them Igbos but the civil war effect came upon and they held it(denying) to survive.

The "Ogbakor" in your lines means GATHERING.

Nwanne what again are we dragging here?.
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Gajagojo: 1:57am On Jul 10
StreetMedia:

We are driving same point.
Ikwerre has been there with the GBOs thus making them Igbos but the civil war effect came upon and they held it(denying) to survive.

The "Ogbakor" in your lines means GATHERING.

Nwanne what again are we dragging here?.
Ikwerre say they are not Igbo
Rest
It is not by force
Languages resemble each other all over the world
No big deal
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by AnyanwuSK: 1:02pm On Jul 10
StreetMedia:

We are driving same point.
Ikwerre has been there with the GBOs thus making them Igbos but the civil war effect came upon and they held it(denying) to survive.

The "Ogbakor" in your lines means GATHERING.

Nwanne what again are we dragging here?.


The guy you're calling Nwanne is a Yoruba Muhammedian

Go through his posts, it's all anti-Igbo
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by AnyanwuSK: 1:14pm On Jul 10
Proudlyngwa:


So children of what language are they.

Your analogy is flawed.

Igbo, ibibio, and others are language of the Congo basin.

Ikwerre is a derivative of the greater Igbo language, just like Ngwa, etche, abriba, amidst others


Do you know the Etche is actually the Ichie in Igbo?

They write it will English way.
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by AnyanwuSK: 1:25pm On Jul 10
Christlike01:


If you had taken time to sturdy your sad history,you would have realized how dull your forefathers were. Mtchew,mere descendants of primitive forest-dwelling ancestors....slaves!


Stop circulation of fake posts
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by AnyanwuSK: 1:36pm On Jul 10
herich:


Ikwerre land has never been an igboland. Just as aba land is never an Owerri land, ohafia can never be umuahia people's land.
If there is war in Nigeria now, onicha people living in Owerri will run back to their villages, Owerri people living aba will run back to their villages, ogoni people living ikwerre will run back to their villages.
Even the next village to my village can't take our land or farm in our village land despite being brothers.


1st. Your post is silly.

2nd. War with who or Who and who?

3rd. I don't know what you using Yoruba lifestyle to judge others ethnicity.
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by AnyanwuSK: 1:39pm On Jul 10
herich:
You're the one killing yourself with ikwerre that are not up to 4 LGA grin an average Igbo man doesnot even know existence of those people, except igbos that has step down to ph.
My current landlord is an ikwerre but i usually pay him 50 or 100k whenever i want to renew my rent because him go don borrow,, borrow money from hand all through the year grin ikwerre people full my DM begging for the least and i dey knack their jobless girls wetin no good.most of their lands has been bought by igbos and akwa ibom. Me sef wey never make am get 11 plots for omagwa and igirita.
You're the one worrying yourself here not Igbos because most Igbos don't even know that there is lazy primitive people called ikwerre. grin
By the time they finish selling their properties to strangers, they'll pack back to benin brothers


How are you different from from that guy?
Why are you insulting well meaning Ikwerre people because of a Yoruba troll?
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Obi1kenobi(m): 3:54am On Jul 12
Gajagojo:
Ikwerre say they are not Igbo
Rest
It is not by force
Languages resemble each other all over the world
No big deal

The majority of Ikwerre Igbo-denialism articles I see here are not initiated by Igbos. It tends to either be started by an Ikwerre person or any of the anti-Igbo trolls to foment rancour, and then they start rambling about Igbos attaching themselves to Ikwerres. I don't know any Igbo person that gives much thought to the identity crisis of Ikwerres. The sort of strange mass psychosis triggered by Igbophobia that would drive Ikwerres to invent a clearly fraudulent Benin-origin story doesn't seem like a gap that can be bridged.
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Obi1kenobi(m): 4:02am On Jul 12
Meanwhile, the quality of discourse on this forum seems to get worse everytime I visit. Nigerians have to be the lowest IQ people on the planet and we should really do humanity and its future a favour by just stopping breeding.
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Gajagojo: 5:09am On Jul 12
Obi1kenobi:


The majority of Ikwerre Igbo-denialism articles I see here are not initiated by Igbos. It tends to either be started by an Ikwerre person or any of the anti-Igbo trolls to foment rancour, and then they start rambling about Igbos attaching themselves to Ikwerres. I don't know any Igbo person that gives much thought to the identity crisis of Ikwerres. The sort of strange mass psychosis triggered by Igbophobia that would drive Ikwerres to invent a clearly fraudulent Benin-origin story doesn't seem like a gap that can be bridged.

That is what you want to believe
Ikwerre were recognised in the 1979 constitution
Was that because of Fulani?
Was it Yoruba that wrote Ikwerre bible or founded Ogbakor Ikwerre before Ohanaeze?
Was it Hausa that dragged Ikwerre to Willinks Commission?
Have you heard of Willinks Commission?
This was set up as part of pre independence negotiations with the British to discuss protection of minorities
BEFORE 1960
please tell us why did Ikwerre attend Willinks Commission?
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Obi1kenobi(m): 10:34am On Jul 12
Gajagojo:


That is what you want to believe
Ikwerre were recognised in the 1979 constitution
Was that because of Fulani?
Was it Yoruba that wrote Ikwerre bible or founded Ogbakor Ikwerre before Ohanaeze?
Was it Hausa that dragged Ikwerre to Willinks Commission?
Have you heard of Willinks Commission?
This was set up as part of pre independence negotiations with the British to discuss protection of minorities
BEFORE 1960
please tell us why did Ikwerre attend Willinks Commission?

None of these are relevant to anything I said. I'm referring specifically to how most of these articles originate on this forum, so that people like you can jump all over it to vent your anti-Igbo sentiment. And referring to the clearly fraudulent, laughable, delusional Benin-origin myth (triggered by their Igbophobic mass psychosis) invented by Ikwerres. They've basically been so driven to madness in their quest to prove they have no links whatsoever with the Igbo nation, that they've invented the most spurious of links to an alien Benin civilization of which there isn't even the most vestigial of traces in Ikwerre culture. Even my own Idemili and Onitsha kin in Anambra have more demonstrable Benin roots than Ikwerres.

I have no problem with an Igbo-speaking clan claiming not to be Igbo. Language isn't all that defines identity, and Igbo consciousness is a fairly new development among the Igboid cluster from the late colonial/decolonisation era. Igbos are far from a monolithic entity and there is great historical and cultural and ethno-linguistic diversity among Igbo clans who have developed this common consciousness. Some of our ancestors have Edoid or Ekoid or Igala historical roots and there are Igbo speakers that I can barely comprehend a word of their language. It's a democratic choice, but you don't have to spin laughable myths about your roots and history like Ikwerre talebearers have spun about their mythical Benin roots.
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Gajagojo: 10:37am On Jul 12
Obi1kenobi:


None of these are relevant to anything I said. I'm referring specifically to how most of these articles originate on this forum, so that people like you can jump all over it to vent your anti-Igbo sentiment. And referring to the clearly fraudulent, laughable, delusional Benin-origin myth (triggered by their Igbophobic mass psychosis) invented by Ikwerres. They've basically been so driven to madness in their quest to prove they have no links whatsoever with the Igbo nation, that they've invented the most spurious of links to an alien Benin civilization of which there isn't even the most vestigial of traces in Ikwerres culture. Even my own Idemili and Onitsha kin in Anambra have more demonstrable Benin roots than Ikwerres.

I have no problem with an Igbo-speaking clan claiming not to be Igbo. Language isn't all that defines identity, and Igbo consciousness is a fairly new development among the Igboid cluster from the late colonial/decolonisation era. Igbos are far from a monolithic entity and there is great historical and cultural and ethno-linguistic diversity among Igbo clans who have developed this common consciousness. Some of our ancestors have Edoid or Ekoid or Igala historical roots and there are Igbo speakers that I can barely comprehend a word of their language. It's a democratic choice, but you don't have to spin laughable myths about your roots and history like Ikwerre talebearers have spun about their mythical Benin roots.
Once again

That is what you want to believe
Ikwerre went to the Willinks Commission
WHY?
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Obi1kenobi(m): 10:49am On Jul 12
Gajagojo:

Once again

That is what you want to believe
Ikwerre went to the Willinks Commission
WHY?

Can you read? You just regurgitated the same nonsense after what I posted. I said it is fine for Ikwerres to claim to be a distinct ethnicity from Igbos. That's their right. What's the relevance of that to whether they went to the Willinks Commission? I'm referring to the fraudulent Benin-origin myth.
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Gajagojo: 11:37am On Jul 12
Obi1kenobi:


Can you read? You just regurgitated the same nonsense after what I posted. I said it is fine for Ikwerres to claim to be a distinct ethnicity from Igbos. That's their right. What's the relevance of that to whether they went to the Willinks Commission? I'm referring to the fraudulent Benin-origin myth.

You are vomiting the same putrid verbigeration
They went to the Willinks Commission proves they have always asserted their difference
All your whining about "OTHERS" pushing an agenda is just paranoid rumination
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Obi1kenobi(m): 3:24pm On Jul 12
Gajagojo:


You are vomiting the same putrid verbigeration
They went to the Willinks Commission proves they have always asserted their difference
All your whining about "OTHERS" pushing an agenda is just paranoid rumination

Again, what does this have to do with anything I said? Did I argue anything about whether they went to Willinks Commission or not? Did I argue anything about whether they asserted their difference or not? You're arguing against your own strawman constructs and rambling utterly irrelevant drivel. In a thread where I said they have the right to assert whatever identity they wish, you're still somehow acting like I said the opposite. Are you reetarded?
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Gajagojo: 3:30pm On Jul 12
Obi1kenobi:


Again, what does this have to do with anything I said? Did I argue anything about whether they went to Willinks Commission or not? Did I argue anything about whether they asserted their difference or not? You're arguing against your own strawman constructs and rambling utterly irrelevant drivel. In a thread where I said they have the right to assert whatever identity they wish, you're still somehow acting like I said the opposite. Are you reetarded?
You sound frustrated and slow witted
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Obi1kenobi(m): 3:45pm On Jul 12
Gajagojo:
You sound frustrated and slow witted

Projection from a buffoon who can't even stick to a line of argument and just repeats the same witless drivel like a programmed robot. I get that you get your kicks from indulging your Igbophobia, but you can at least engage your brains while you do it.
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Gajagojo: 3:53pm On Jul 12
Obi1kenobi:


Projection from a buffoon who can't even stick to a line of argument and just repeats the same witless drivel like a programmed robot. I get that you get your kicks from indulging your Igbophobia, but you can at least engage your brains while you do it.
verbigeration

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