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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by D990: 9:09am On Jul 15
Lessons will be learnt sha….save yourselves the trouble and follow the rules.It’s that simple…make una no go learn expensive lessons.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by abuhusna1: 9:10am On Jul 15
@heykims stop posting that misleading information. I saw guy that was given tough time at Port of entry when he could not produce account balance on request and he was taken to secondary inspection maybe he is in Nigeria by now.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by justwise(m): 9:47am On Jul 15
oselokak:

My dear. I am a lawyer . Never have, never will attempt to tell anyone to flaunt the rules
I have in no way attempted to mislead anyone.
The threat of a ban is really not going to change the facts.

Refer to the rules
Interpret it . That is logic and facts.
I have asked anyone here with a contrary view to post the applicable rules.

Can you for once , stop siding with what you believe and consider for once that you may need to unlearn and relearn some stuff in life?
I notice all you did was threaten me with a ban. Feel free to do that . It is not the end of the world love. Some of us actually have real lives IRL.

Kindly attack the substantive issue with evidence (from the UKVI rules or any official site not here say of from questionable email sources)
Any other thing is you just being Nigerian and using your power to silence any contrary view.

For the avoidance of doubt , the embassy may ask for a re print , in which case it is advisable to leave the funds and have it ready to avoid the explanation of why. We have seen this happen on so many occasions.

Abegi why I dey even bother my life ? Let the ones that have accused others of not looking into a book , look into the bloody book and use their brains



lawyer or not that is not what i'm all about.

Material misrepresentation carries 10yrs ban, when you claimed to have the money in your bank account but in reality you have removed the money that is misrepresentation.

The embassy has the right to verify any document you submitted because you signed the disclaimer authorising them to do that.

Every single yr we argue this here and people like you will turn up to encourage fraud with all sorts of false claim.

This is not going to happen here this year.

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by Owun: 10:29am On Jul 15
Visa alert

Biometrics- 1st July
2 Empty Nsf mail
1 nsf mail requesting additional documents
No interview
Brp email- 13/07/2024
Tracker still showing with DmC and no collection email yet.
4 previous refused UK visiting visa
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by heykims(m): 10:35am On Jul 15
justwise:


lawyer or not that is not what i'm all about.

Material misrepresentation carries 10yrs ban, when you claimed to have the money in your bank account but in reality you have removed the money that is misrepresentation.

The embassy has the right to verify any document you submitted because you signed the disclaimer authorising them to do that.

Every single yr we argue this here and people like you will turn up to encourage fraud with all sorts of false claim.

This is not going to happen here this year.
Mr moderator, don't threaten me with a ban. I just answered a simple question.
Someone asked if he can submit a POF statement days after it's maturity and I answered YES. The answer is YES regardless of what all u guys are saying.
For example, u can submit a bank statement of June 1 to June 29 for the visa application today July 15.
It's surprising u guys can't interpret a simple rule boldly stated on the UKVI website even with an example.
And I never told the young man to remove his POF.

Please don't threaten me with a ban Mr moderator, read and comprehend.
Attached again is what's stated on the UKVI website.

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by oselokak: 10:39am On Jul 15
justwise:


lawyer or not that is not what i'm all about.

Material misrepresentation carries 10yrs ban, when you claimed to have the money in your bank account but in reality you have removed the money that is misrepresentation.

The embassy has the right to verify any document you submitted because you signed the disclaimer authorising them to do that.

Every single yr we argue this here and people like you will turn up to encourage fraud with all sorts of false claim.

This is not going to happen here this year.
Hallelujah! We are finally joining issues.

Material Representation: The UKVI laws (which someone screenshot and posted) asked for 1. A bank statement of 28days. 2. To be submitted within 31 days of the 28 days.

That is the information submitted. Proof that I have XYZ amount on let’s say 28/2/2024. That is what the bank is asked to verify. The veracity or correctness of said statement.

Can the bank pry into my statement afterwards?
Please let me quote verbatim the CBN rules of Customer’s Bill of Rights and Duties ( a quick search on google can direct your footsteps)

account details by the bank as well as intrusion into your account by third party. In other words, your bank must not divulge your account information to a third party; the bank must also protect your information from unauthorised access by a third party.

There are, however, exceptions to this right as follows:

1. Where the bank is required by law to make disclosure; and
2. Where the customer consents to the disclosure.
In 1. These are situations of fraud other other issues where a court issues an order after hearing the suit
2. A customer consents only to the extent of the statement submitted not forever and ever . If it were so , then any embassy can arbitrarily ask for updates of balances in perpetuity or even prior to the date.
A customer’s consent is to the details he has submitted and for nothing else.
Hence the reason for the request for reprints of statements after submission.

A misrepresentation would occur when one falsifies the information he submitted. If peradventure I am issues with a visa or during the pendency of the application I need to use to touch 5k from the money to purchase airtime And then repay for school fee payment, would that be misrepresentation? Do you see how that sounds?

I am well aware that Nigerians look for corners and shortcuts to circumvent the law and it would sound easier to just throw the baby of the facts out with the bath water, but that does not in any way change the facts or the law.
This is not meant as a manual to teach any body unscrupulous practices but simply to correct a misinformation.

If you read my earlier posts, I have said it IT IS SAFER TO LEAVE FUNDS PENDING THE APPLICATION because a visa will be refused if the visa officer is unsatisfied that the funds to support the education is unavailable if a reprint is asked for.
But the declaration that a 10 year ban follows withdrawal of funds is a fallacy and untrue.
Get the distinction so that you may be able to advice people better in the future

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by oselokak: 10:52am On Jul 15
@heykims
You know what?

Stop bothering yourself abeg. All my flabbars are totally ghasted at how folks do not wish to or cannot interpret even the things that are clear.

Na money to chop goat head be my problem today . And exchange rate for my flight no be free tutorials that benefits me nothing
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by heykims(m): 11:01am On Jul 15
oselokak:
@heykims
You know what?

Stop bothering yourself abeg. All my flabbars are totally ghasted at how folks do not wish to or cannot interpret even the things that are clear.

Na money to chop goat head be my problem today . And exchange rate for my flight no be free tutorials that benefits me nothing
To read is a problem to black people but they are quick to misuse the their position by threatening a ban.

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by MrSoftlife(f): 11:07am On Jul 15
heykims:

To read is a pproblem to black people but they are quick to misuse their position by threatening a ban.

You started all this. You even went as far as posting stories of the Teesside students here.

Last year you got your visa after terminating your POF for three weeks and you thought if the postal applied the same principle this year he would get his visa.

With the current wave of Nigerians dropping out of schools making the news it is funny you would even mention what you did last year so someone can copy it in 2024.

Be your brother’s keeper!
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by Teamfrosh1201: 11:17am On Jul 15
Owun:
Visa alert

Biometrics- 1st July
2 Empty Nsf mail
1 nsf mail requesting additional documents
No interview
Brp email- 13/07/2024
Tracker still showing with DmC and no collection email yet.
4 previous refused UK visiting visa

Congratulations brother.

Please I have questions

1. What documents did you submit for the visa application ?

2. What additional document were you asked to submit ?
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by Owun: 11:48am On Jul 15
Teamfrosh1201:


Congratulations brother.

Please I have questions

1. What documents did you submit for the visa application ?

2. What additional document were you asked to submit ?

Tb test
My uni certificate
WAEC certificate (English language proof)
Bank statement

Additional documents
Employment letter, NYSC certificate, promotion letter, pay slip just to proof my study gap, I have 5 years study gap

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by justwise(m): 11:55am On Jul 15
heykims:

Mr moderator, don't threaten me with a ban. I just answered a simple question.
Someone asked if he can submit a POF statement days after it's maturity and I answered YES. The answer is YES regardless of what all u guys are saying.
For example, u can submit a bank statement of June 1 to June 29 for the visa application today July 15.
It's surprising u guys can't interpret a simple rule boldly stated on the UKVI website even with an example.
And I never told the young man to remove his POF.

Please don't threaten me with a ban Mr moderator, read and comprehend.
Attached again is what's stated on the UKVI website.

Lets wait and see when you or any other person repeat the same thing again.

Done with you on this for now
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by MrSoftlife(f): 11:59am On Jul 15
heykims:

So I can't cite myself as an example? I did that because I know the rules u guys are ignorant of and u all are even still denying it despite being stated.
And I wasn't happy removing my POF, na condition. Even at that, I knew that the worst that would happen a visa refusal NEVER a ban.
U guys should act literate and learn to read. U only attract a ban if u submit a fake bank statement, and [b]never for removing your POF.[/b]
My POF was removed for reason beyond my control and I fell back on the UKVI rule.

I guess this is your only interpretation of deception (is when you submit a falsified document and not about the information you gave in your application if the money (POF) is available? In the law you quoted, I guess it was stated there verbatim that you can withdraw the POF after 28 days.

It's funny as you are trying to bend the rules to favor you.

I will expect that from an immigration lawyer.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by justwise(m): 12:04pm On Jul 15
oselokak:

Hallelujah! We are finally joining issues.

Material Representation: The UKVI laws (which someone screenshot and posted) asked for 1. A bank statement of 28days. 2. To be submitted within 31 days of the 28 days.

That is the information submitted. Proof that I have XYZ amount on let’s say 28/2/2024. That is what the bank is asked to verify. The veracity or correctness of said statement.

Can the bank pry into my statement afterwards?
Please let me quote verbatim the CBN rules of Customer’s Bill of Rights and Duties ( a quick search on google can direct your footsteps)

account details by the bank as well as intrusion into your account by third party. In other words, your bank must not divulge your account information to a third party; the bank must also protect your information from unauthorised access by a third party.

There are, however, exceptions to this right as follows:

1. Where the bank is required by law to make disclosure; and
2. Where the customer consents to the disclosure.
In 1. These are situations of fraud other other issues where a court issues an order after hearing the suit
2. A customer consents only to the extent of the statement submitted not forever and ever . If it were so , then any embassy can arbitrarily ask for updates of balances in perpetuity or even prior to the date.
A customer’s consent is to the details he has submitted and for nothing else.
Hence the reason for the request for reprints of statements after submission.

A misrepresentation would occur when one falsifies the information he submitted. If peradventure I am issues with a visa or during the pendency of the application I need to use to touch 5k from the money to purchase airtime And then repay for school fee payment, would that be misrepresentation? Do you see how that sounds?

I am well aware that Nigerians look for corners and shortcuts to circumvent the law and it would sound easier to just throw the baby of the facts out with the bath water, but that does not in any way change the facts or the law.
This is not meant as a manual to teach any body unscrupulous practices but simply to correct a misinformation.

If you read my earlier posts, I have said it IT IS SAFER TO LEAVE FUNDS PENDING THE APPLICATION because a visa will be refused if the visa officer is unsatisfied that the funds to support the education is unavailable if a reprint is asked for.
But the declaration that a 10 year ban follows withdrawal of funds is a fallacy and untrue.
Get the distinction so that you may be able to advice people better in the future

Yes.

1. airline ticket is NOT part of your maintenance money

2. Your maintenance money is to be used in the UK, the calculation is based on your monthly expenditure in the UK, so when you take out some in Nigeria AFTER submitting your visa application you have misrepresented your true financial condition.

3. UKiv is not aware that you have touched that money after submitting your application.

So you have lied about the total amount avaliable in that bank account.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by Stnature: 12:07pm On Jul 15
Congrats. Please was it priority? And which center do you use?

Visa alert

Biometrics- 1st July
2 Empty Nsf mail
1 nsf mail requesting additional documents
No interview
Brp email- 13/07/2024
Tracker still showing with DmC and no collection email yet.
4 previous refused UK visiting visa[/quote]
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by Stnature: 1:00pm On Jul 15
Owun:
Visa alert

Biometrics- 1st July
2 Empty Nsf mail
1 nsf mail requesting additional documents
No interview
Brp email- 13/07/2024
Tracker still showing with DmC and no collection email yet.
4 previous refused UK visiting visa

What center? And was it priority?
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by Owun: 1:07pm On Jul 15
Stnature:


What center? And was it priority?

Priority but because my application was not straightforward it came late

Centre: Ikeja Lagos
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by oselokak: 1:16pm On Jul 15
justwise:


Yes.

1. airline ticket is NOT part of your maintenance money

2. Your maintenance money is to be used in the UK, the calculation is based on your monthly expenditure in the UK, so when you take out some in Nigeria AFTER submitting your visa application you have misrepresented your true financial condition.

3. UKiv is not aware that you have touched that money after submitting your application.

So you have lied about the total amount avaliable in that bank account.
You know what? Forget it.

It’s exhausting going over the same issues .
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by oselokak: 1:18pm On Jul 15
MrSoftlife:


I guess this is your only interpretation of deception (is when you submit a falsified document and not about the information you gave in your application if the money (POF) is available? In the law you quoted, I guess it was stated there verbatim that you can withdraw the POF after 28 days.

It's funny as you are trying to bend the rules to favor you.

I will expect that from an immigration lawyer.




You know what?

The fact that that was your understanding of everything I said makes it pointless for me to attempt any further.

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by MrSoftlife(f): 1:22pm On Jul 15
oselokak:

You know what?

The fact that that was your understanding of everything I said makes it pointless for me to attempt any further.

The last time I checked I haven't mentioned you and there's a reason for that. Or are you the same person with Heykims I quoted?!

Few weeks ago, you have been the one asking people about their POF and if they kept it till they got their visas etc.

I really don't have time for an argument.


People should do what's right!
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by Eminent091759: 1:30pm On Jul 15
Did my biometrics on Friday 28th of June, got my approval on Friday 5th of july, brp letter was dated 3rd of July. kiss
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by Teamfrosh1201: 1:34pm On Jul 15
Eminent091759:
Did my biometrics on Friday 28th of June, got my approval on Friday 5th of july, brp letter was dated 3rd of July. kiss

Congratulations

What documents did you submit for the visa application ? And was is standard or priority ??
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by Stnature: 1:34pm On Jul 15
Eminent091759:
Did my biometrics on Friday 28th of June, got my approval on Friday 5th of july, brp letter was dated 3rd of July. kiss

Priority?
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by Eminent091759: 1:41pm On Jul 15
Teamfrosh1201:


Congratulations

What documents did you submit for the visa application ? And was is standard or priority ??

I submitted my credentials, employment letters, reference letters and tb.
It was a standard visa
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by Teamfrosh1201: 1:43pm On Jul 15
Eminent091759:


I submitted my credentials, employment letters, reference letters and tb.
It was a standard visa

Good.

Congratulations again.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by Stnature: 1:45pm On Jul 15
Please those that used standard application this month. Have you gotten visas?
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by justwise(m): 2:26pm On Jul 15
oselokak:

You know what? Forget it.

It’s exhausting going over the same issues .

Admit that your understanding of student rules is limited, that example you gave says it all.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by Vast007: 2:41pm On Jul 15
MrSoftlife:


You need to submit an employment letter as proof to bridge the study gap.

So the question is how many years of study gap do you have?

finished 2017 NYSC 2018/2019
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by pufframmy: 3:32pm On Jul 15
wow congratulation

thank God you never relent how much was the school fees
Stnature:
Congrats. Please was it priority? And which center do you use?

Visa alert

Biometrics- 1st July
2 Empty Nsf mail
1 nsf mail requesting additional documents
No interview
Brp email- 13/07/2024
Tracker still showing with DmC and no collection email yet.
4 previous refused UK visiting visa

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