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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 10:03am On Jul 17
WritterNg:
⚡Greece is preparing to decommission 32 older F-16 Block-30 fighter jets and now Ukraine wants them.

The preferred method for Greece to transfer these jets is to sell them back to the United States, which would then upgrade them and pass them on to Ukraine.


Look how they're recycling these 50 years old jets amongst themselves.


But some fools here would be quick to label Russian weapon as "Soviet era" weapons, forgetting that Soviet era was barely 35 years ago.


And US weapons are far older than Russian weapons. Because the US introduces theirs first then Russia makes theirs to counter them.

So technically US weapons are usually far older.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 10:07am On Jul 17
Someone is happily posting private mercenaries on Africa soil, forgien private military contractors operating freely on Africa soil, this the same person that will scream colonialism. The same person will condemned western military bases in African countries, For the very first-time a forgien backed power is setting a dangerous precedent by using private military contractors to do it's bidding on African soil. Yet one clown who claims to want Africa free and independent will happily support private military installations in Africa countries, because its their darling slave master Russia that's involved.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Masterviolence(m): 10:39am On Jul 17
WritterNg:
⚡Germany will halve military aid to Ukraine in 2025.

In 2025, Germany intends to allocate €4 billion for military assistance to Ukraine.

This is half as much as this year (€8 billion).
This war has shown just one thing.
Between the great powers of the west and the east, the fall of u.s will be the defeat of the west in an all out war, but same can't be said about the east.
Let's say in an all out war, if china falls, you have Russia to contend with, or Russia falls, you have china to contend with, even in the case of both powers falling, you have India to contend with, including the rising power of the middle east Iran.
Russia is the only country that can arm her ally with everything possible, from selling their state of the art weapons under the trade name of 'export varient' to providing the 'technical know how' of such weapon to her allies.

•The fastest subsonic missile in the world is an India-Russian made bramos ll missile which Russia is undoubtedly the brain behind.
• China's air defense systems in operation today including those Soviet and Russian made systems currently being manufactured in china under license and indigenous systems are all made using the Russian brain.
• NK nuclear and missile programs are all under the Russian brain, including the recent satellite and first ever to be operational in the states are all under the Russian brain.
I can go on and on.
This cooperation is what we term under international law as allies.


On the other side of the spectrum, the u.s will rather sell you their weapons puting restrictions that'll serve as a stumbling block to your own innovations.
Let's say you want to develop your own missile like the Indians did with their ally's help (Russia), the u.s will sell you the missiles they have and force you to sign agreements prohibiting you from ever developing your own missile.
This is why the have over 700 military bases around the world.

• Saudi Arabia, a nation that has almost the same defense budget as Russia prior to the war in Ukraine has almost zero indigenous defense systems for the billions they spend yearly on defense. All those money are given to the u.s for protection. The day the diplomatic relationship between these two will come to a halt, or a misunderstanding emerge, the u.s will simply pack up their defense systems and leave KSA defenseless.
• SK a nation that's doing a bit well defensively command no advance submarine fleet, simply because the u.s did not approve of it.
• German, a nation once feared has been a shadow of itself defensively because they must rely on u.s permission to do anything.


Just to name a few and make this write-up as compact as possible I've decided to stop here.
Of all the u.s ally, turkey is the only country making moves defensively, and guess what? They're hated for that,, but at this point, turkey is for turkey and not necessarily a loyal ally if I may say because they also see Russia as an ally in some field.
Did you know, if the u.s wants to develop a defense system, they get the brain from all allies to develop that system?
From their MBT, Missile systems to Fighter jet like the latest F series fighters.
Yet they've refused to sell their F-22 raptor's to the same allies? And that's to name a few.


In the event of an all out war, Russia should focus on the u.s and make sure nothing escapes the so called allies or friends like France, turkey, hungry, Croatia, Serbia, Mexico, Brazil etc are excepted to either chicken out of remain neutral .

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Ska333ko: 10:41am On Jul 17
Lawag3:


After the staunt they pulled in Lebanon and Jordan any sensible person will support Israel.


E get why Egypt build a fence blocking gazans from getting to Egypt.

Palestinians carried out terrorist attacks on Zionist .. Sorry Egyptian soil. You check am na
Pls stop quoting me without fact

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by lanre316: 10:43am On Jul 17
erniok:


It's obvious even to the blind. In on FP thread, he asked anyone with military background interested in fighting for the Russians for a pay should dm him.

O yes, it's true o. I remember he was even telling interested individuals to go to one chess club in ikoyi to get application forms.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by erniok(m): 10:57am On Jul 17
lanre316:


O yes, it's true o. I remember he was even telling interested individuals to go to one chess club in ikoyi to get application forms.

I didn't follow up on his next instructions but I took mental note and understood what drives him to attack the west so viciously.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by lanre316: 11:10am On Jul 17
erniok:


It's obvious even to the blind. In on FP thread, he asked anyone with military background interested in fighting for the Russians for a pay should dm him.

I hope the rest of the West haters get paid as well too, and not just doing follow follow like zombie.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 11:17am On Jul 17
Ska333ko:

Pls stop quoting me without fact


OK verify this facts

Palestinians have carried multiple terrorist attacks on Egyptians true or false
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by erniok(m): 11:24am On Jul 17
lanre316:


I hope the rest of the West haters get paid as well too, and not just doing follow follow like zombie.

I think some do it because they feel it's the right thing and it is morally right to speak out against evil. Has the west been a shining light in the darkness? Of course not as history has shown. They can be vile but in my opinion, I think they hold themselves to a higher standard than the east.

My other concern is the twistingbof history in other to paint one party in good light and make the other evil.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 11:25am On Jul 17
Ska333ko:

Pls stop quoting me without fact


Wait oh Omo sha I'm just noticing this now. The picture you posted below as fact isn't the Egyptian GAZA border but the Egyptian Israeli border.


Here are some facts about the Egyptian GAZA fence from Wikipedia.

The Egyptian GAZA barrier was built in 2009
According to analysts at a January 2010 Egyptian security conference, the barrier reflects Egypt's concern that al-Qaeda-inspired militants from the Gaza Strip will infiltrate Egypt after being forced out by Hamas, the de facto governing authority in the Strip, which Egypt considers a terrorist group, along with Israel, the EU, USA and others. The analysts said Egypt could become a haven and a battleground for small Salafist militant groups such as Jund Ansar Allah, Army of Islam and Jaljalat, which have been squashed by Hamas since it took control in 2007.[7] The barrier has proved to be of little effect, with it being "breached hundreds of times" according to an Egyptian security official.[8]The Rafah border crossing is the only border crossing between the Gaza Strip and Egypt

The Egyptian army continued to destroy Gaza Strip smuggling tunnels under the barrier , according to the Egyptian army "in order to fight any element of terrorism".[10] As of April 2013, Egypt reinforced its troops on the border with the Gaza Strip.


You've were qoute me see your facts
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Ska333ko: 11:29am On Jul 17
Lawag3:


A simple google search would have cured your ignorance.

Israelite Wikipedia? isreal can claim anything to back up their occupation

According to this your incorrect fact, it means Bible is wrong , bcs Joshua with the Jews exterminate the Canaanite

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 11:35am On Jul 17
⚡China and the Philippines agreed to open a direct line of communication between presidential administrations to prevent clashes in the South China Sea.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by lanre316: 11:38am On Jul 17
erniok:


I think some do it because they feel it's the right thing and it is morally right to speak out against evil. Has the west been a shining light in the darkness? Of course not as history has shown. They can be vile but in my opinion, I think they hold themselves to a higher standard than the east.

My other concern is the twistingbof history in other to paint one party in good light and make the other evil.

Gbam!

Absolutely true 👍
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 11:38am On Jul 17
Masterviolence:

This war has shown just one thing.
Between the great powers of the west and the east, the fall of u.s will be the defeat of the west in an all out war, but same can't be said about the east.
Let's say in an all out war, if china falls, you have Russia to contend with, or Russia falls, you have china to contend with, even in the case of both powers falling, you have India to contend with, including the rising power of the middle east Iran.
Russia is the only country that can arm her ally with everything possible, from selling their state of the art weapons under the trade name of 'export varient' to providing the 'technical know how' of such weapon to her allies.

•The fastest subsonic missile in the world is an India-Russian made bramos ll missile which Russia is undoubtedly the brain behind.
• China's air defense systems in operation today including those Soviet and Russian made systems currently being manufactured in china under license and indigenous systems are all made using the Russian brain.
• NK nuclear and missile programs are all under the Russian brain, including the recent satellite and first ever to be operational in the states are all under the Russian brain.
I can go on and on.
This cooperation is what we term under international law as allies.


On the other side of the spectrum, the u.s will rather sell you their weapons puting restrictions that'll serve as a stumbling block to your own innovations.
Let's say you want to develop your own missile like the Indians did with their ally's help (Russia), the u.s will sell you the missiles they have and force you to sign agreements prohibiting you from ever developing your own missile.
This is why the have over 700 military bases around the world.

• Saudi Arabia, a nation that has almost the same defense budget as Russia prior to the war in Ukraine has almost zero indigenous defense systems for the billions they spend yearly on defense. All those money are given to the u.s for protection. The day the diplomatic relationship between these two will come to a halt, or a misunderstanding emerge, the u.s will simply pack up their defense systems and leave KSA defenseless.
• SK a nation that's doing a bit well defensively command no advance submarine fleet, simply because the u.s did not approve of it.
• German, a nation once feared has been a shadow of itself defensively because they must rely on u.s permission to do anything.


Just to name a few and make this write-up as compact as possible I've decided to stop here.
Of all the u.s ally, turkey is the only country making moves defensively, and guess what? They're hated for that,, but at this point, turkey is for turkey and not necessarily a loyal ally if I may say because they also see Russia as an ally in some field.
Did you know, if the u.s wants to develop a defense system, they get the brain from all allies to develop that system?
From their MBT, Missile systems to Fighter jet like the latest F series fighters.
Yet they've refused to sell their F-22 raptor's to the same allies? And that's to name a few.


In the invent of an all out war, Russia should focus on the u.s and make sure nothing escapes the so called allies or friends like France, turkey, hungry, Croatia, Serbia, Mexico, Brazil etc are excepted to either chicken out of remain neutral .



Your example using suadi Arabia is laughable, the Saudis have one of most sophisticated air-defences in the Middle East, this systems weren't lent to Saudi Arabia, they were bought by the Saudis making the Saudis the owner of such systems, only air defences system's in usa control airbases in the Saudi Kingdom are usa owned, if the usa and Saudi were to have a disagreement according to you, will the Saudis not retained it usa bought air-defences. How will a disagreement between the Usa and Saudi Arabia make suadi Arabia defenceless?.

They are countless cooperation between the usa and its allies when it comes to military technology and expertise, and there is no instances of the USA putting restrictions on anything I would highlight a few.

The USA airforce JSC Its development is principally funded by the United States, with additional funding from program partner countries from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and close U.S. allies, including the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, Italy, Norway, Denmark, the Netherlands,
This program birthed the F35
.

USA and Israel co developed the famed iron dome

Japan indigenous F16 was built by a Japanese indigenous firm mustibushi heavy industries under licences by usa firm Lockheed Martin.

SK military needs are tailored to fit the threats they face, why will the south Korean military need a formidable submarine fleet,?? when the greatest threats they face in North Korea is just a stone throw away, why do you think both the two Korean nations are the biggest manufacturers of artillery shells, a war between SK and NK will be more of an artillery war, your analysis is flawed.

The USA through the aukus program will be suppling Australian with their first ever nuclear powered submarine, this is a joint program between Australia UK and the USA.

You made some funny assertions that the usa placed restrictions on allies on developing their own indigenous systems when all major usa allies have indigenous fighter jets and missile systems and some of this allie even export tech to the usa.

Also you said the usa uses its allies brain in developing military systems,that's as laughable as a comic joke, when the Usa have the biggest defence industry in the world.

Apart from Russia no other country has a bigger defence spending in Europe, nor have a more technological advanced military in Europe than Germany, largest military apart from the USA in nato, have the second largest amount of tanks in Europe.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Ska333ko: 11:49am On Jul 17
Lawag3:


In the same day Jesus was arrested and Peter used his sword Jesus rebuked him saying those who live by the sword die by the sword.


In the other I post the whole verse Jesus was telling a story it was the man in that story that said that.

Christians understand this stuff to be either parables or Metaphorical sayings


Show a Christian that will interpret those verses as kill people of other religions or sinners.


There is a reason even in the Quran Isa (Jesus) is known for peace.


This a political thread not a religious one.

If you're to stupid to differentiate between metaphors and literal saying then you're on your own.


It still doesn't change the fact that the Quran tells Muslims to kill infidels Jews and Christians where ever you may find them.
@ bolded
Crusader!

Ok Tell me the verse that was used by crusader to commit their atrocities
Who is infidel according to crusader
You are here portraiting Christian as religion of peace while your fore brother in faith has shows us what Bible preach

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Ska333ko: 12:10pm On Jul 17
Lawag3:


OK verify this facts

Palestinians have carried multiple terrorist attacks on Egyptians true or false
abeg commot for here

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 12:23pm On Jul 17
Ska333ko:
@ bolded
Crusader!

Ok Tell me the verse that was used by crusader to commit their atrocities
Who is infidel according to crusader
You are here portraiting Christian as religion of peace while your fore brother in faith has shows us what Bible preach



The Crusades were a response to Islamic expansionism from the backwaters of Yemen and Saudi Islam invaded christian Syria, Turkey, Egypt, Lebanon,Armenia entered Europe took Spain took Eastern Europe they took all of this Trough wars and conquest turn formally christian lands to Muslim territories.

The Christian crusaders were looking to take back those land. Remember the Muslims attacked first.

The word infidels were used by Muslims to describe non Muslims christians used the term sinners.


Oya which bible verse told them to attack and kill muslims. Bring it out let's see.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 12:30pm On Jul 17
Lawag3:


The Crusades were a response to Islamic expansionism from the backwaters of Yemen and Saudi Islam invaded christian Syria, Turkey, Egypt, Lebanon,Armenia entered Europe took Spain took Eastern Europe they took all of this Trough wars and conquest turn formally christian lands to Muslim territories.

The Christian crusaders were looking to take back those land. Remember the Muslims attacked first.

The word infidels were used by Muslims to describe non Muslims christians used the term sinners.


Oya which bible verse told them to attack and kill muslims. Bring it out let's see.


stop wasting your time with that guy, he doesn't know that countries like Egypt and Syria were once epi-centers/ stronghold of Christianity

The war fought against extremists Islamist was a war borne out of survival, the whole thing we know as Christianity would have been a thing of the past forgotten to history if not for the crusaders campaign.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 12:36pm On Jul 17
Ska333ko:
Israelite Wikipedia? isreal can claim anything to back up their occupation

According to this your incorrect fact, it means Bible is wrong , bcs Joshua with the Jews exterminate the Canaanite

The Canaanites were not one people and if you live in Canaan you are a Canaanites. Canaan was not a country but was a geographical location. Anybody that lives in this location were Canaanites


The Syria's were Canaanites the Phoenicians were Canaanites the Philistines were Canaanites Amorites were Canaanites amalekites were Canaanites Edomites were Canaanites.
Jews were Canaanites because a this people lived in Canaan.


Middle East isn't a country but Jews Saudis Persians are all from the middle east.

There's no part of the Bible that says Jews exterminated the Canaanites.


Although Jews did wipe out some of them like the Amorites and the Amalekites and to some extent the midianites and jebusites.


Even in the bible the book of Joshua lists the Canaanites that the Jews did not defeat
Joshua 13:1-22 (KJV) Now Joshua was old and stricken in years; and the LORD said unto him, Thou art old and stricken in years, and there remaineth yet very much land to be possessed.
This is the land that yet remaineth: all the borders of the Philistines, and all Geshuri,
From Sihor, which is before Egypt, even unto the borders of Ekron northward, which is counted to the Canaanite: five lords of the Philistines; the Gazathites, and the Ashdothites, the Eshkalonites, the Gittites, and the Ekronites; also the Avites:
From the south, all the land of the Canaanites, and Mearah that is beside the Sidonians, unto Aphek, to the borders of the Amorites:
And the land of the Giblites, and all Lebanon, toward the sunrising, from Baal-gad under mount Hermon unto the entering into Hamath.
All the inhabitants of the hill country from Lebanon unto Misrephoth-maim, and all the Sidonians, them will I drive out from before the children of Israel: only divide thou it by lot unto the Israelites for an inheritance, as I have commanded thee.
Now therefore divide this land for an inheritance unto the nine tribes, and the half tribe of Manasseh,
With whom the Reubenites and the Gadites have received their inheritance, which Moses gave them, beyond Jordan eastward, even as Moses the servant of the LORD gave them;
From Aroer, that is upon the bank of the river Arnon, and the city that is in the midst of the river, and all the plain of Medeba unto Dibon;
And all the cities of Sihon king of the Amorites, which reigned in Heshbon, unto the border of the children of Ammon;
And Gilead, and the border of the Geshurites and Maachathites, and all mount Hermon, and all Bashan unto Salcah;
All the kingdom of Og in Bashan, which reigned in Ashtaroth and in Edrei, who remained of the remnant of the giants: for these did Moses smite, and cast them out.
Nevertheless the children of Israel expelled not the Geshurites, nor the Maachathites: but the Geshurites and the Maachathites dwell among the Israelites until this day.
Only unto the tribe of Levi he gave none inheritance; the sacrifices of the LORD God of Israel made by fire are their inheritance, as he said unto them.
And Moses gave unto the tribe of the children of Reuben inheritance according to their families.
And their coast was from Aroer, that is on the bank of the river Arnon, and the city that is in the midst of the river, and all the plain by Medeba;
Heshbon, and all her cities that are in the plain; Dibon, and Bamoth-baal, and Beth-baal-meon,
And Jahazah, and Kedemoth, and Mephaath,
And Kirjathaim, and Sibmah, and Zareth-shahar in the mount of the valley,
And Beth-peor, and Ashdoth-pisgah, and Beth-jeshimoth,
And all the cities of the plain, and all the kingdom of Sihon king of the Amorites, which reigned in Heshbon, whom Moses smote with the princes of Midian, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, which were dukes of Sihon, dwelling in the country.
Balaam also the son of Beor, the soothsayer, did the children of Israel slay with the sword among them that were slain by them.

Read and have sense.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 12:40pm On Jul 17
Lawag3:


The Crusades were a response to Islamic expansionism from the backwaters of Yemen and Saudi Islam invaded christian Syria, Turkey, Egypt, Lebanon,Armenia entered Europe took Spain took Eastern Europe they took all of this Trough wars and conquest turn formally christian lands to Muslim territories.

The Christian crusaders were looking to take back those land. Remember the Muslims attacked first.

The word infidels were used by Muslims to describe non Muslims christians used the term sinners.


Oya which bible verse told them to attack and kill muslims. Bring it out let's see.

I hope you know what you are saying.

The Crusades consisted of many wars, and most of these wars were not specifically labeled Crusades, even though they were Crusades.

Only few Crusades were launched against Muslims. Several Crusades were launched against Jews and even fellow Christians.

Some Crusades were even launched against independent city-states and had no religious basis. And many more were launched against territories of other religions outside of Christianity, Islam, and Judaism.

The Crusades were just like every war fought under the guise of religion. They are less about the religion itself and more about getting more power, money, and control.

The religion is just the excuse.

In the case of the Crusades, it was less about expanding Christianity and more about increasing the power and influence of the Roman Catholic church and the Pope, which was why they fought other Christians.

The Crusaders brought more land under the control of the Catholic church and brought more converts into Catholicism, many of which were forceful and under the threath of death.

Note that many independent churches and Christian denominations today were part of the Catholic Church at the time.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 12:50pm On Jul 17
shoodboi2:


I really hope you know what you are saying.

The Crusades consisted of many wars, and may of this wars were not specifically labeled Crusades, even though they were Crusades.

Only few Crusades were launched against Muslims. Several Crusades were launched against Jews and even fellow Christians.

Some Crusades were even launched against city-states and had no religious undertone. And many more were launched against those of other religions outside of Christianity, Islam, and Judaism.

The Crusades are just like every war fought under the guise of religion. It was a means to get more power, money, and control.

It was less about expanding Christianity and more about increasing the power and influence of the Roman Catholic church and the Pope.

The Crusaders brought more land under the control of the Catholic church and brought more converts into Catholicism.

Note that many independent churches and Christian denominations today were part of the Catholic church at the time.
The First Crusade (1096–1099) was the first of a series of religious wars, or Crusades, initiated, supported and at times directed by the Latin Church in the Middle Ages. The objective was the recovery of the Holy Land from Islamic rule. While Jerusalem had been under Muslim rule for hundreds of years, by the 11th century the Seljuk takeover of the region threatened local Christian populations, pilgrimages from the West, and the Byzantine Empire itself.


Majority of the Crusades were against the Muslims and a huge part of the wars were against Muslims.


They did also figth pagans in Europe but that was a small percentage of the crusaders campaigns.

I do agree with you on the fact that some of the Crusades were practically multivated.


Unlike Islam that is religiously multivated.


One Jews have to die for the Islamic Mahdi to come.


When Jesus comes back he will kill the pigs Jews and break the Cross according to Islam.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Bigsam99: 12:59pm On Jul 17
Saudi Arabian terrorists have also bombed Americans. Most of the terrorists that bombed the world trade centre are from Saudi. Did the US attack Saudi?

Even Jewish terrorists attacked and killed British officials in the 1940s. Some of the people that became revered Israeli leaders were once labelled terrorists by the west.

Lawag3:


OK verify this facts

Palestinians have carried multiple terrorist attacks on Egyptians true or false

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Procashtips(m): 1:00pm On Jul 17
Some of you die hard pro-west actually believe some of us exposing the double standards, violence,lies, brutality and outright exploitations of the west started because the OP post these news?

NL and most Nigerian media houses have always been known to be vassals and puppets of anything west, so it was hard getting where to read and share opposing views.

Some of us already knew all these before coming across this thread.

A thinker wouldn't wait for the OP's posts to know the world is being controlled by those who think they own it and everyone in it. Unfortunately most of you pro-west are too enslaved mentally to see and think outside the matrix web.

It's not easy to break out of a mental cage you were born into, your education, news and even way of life has been programmed by them from day one, you know about them more than you know about yourself.

Their interests come first even before that of you and your household and you're ever ready to trade theirs for yours.


Oh ye lost souls, who bewitched you?

Why do you love your chain owners?
Why do you so much hate those who try to save you from yourself?

You fight and defend all that the oppressors represent.
You downgrade what identifies you only to proudly wear that of your chain masters.

Your forefathers were chained with force
But you've now been chained mentally and psychologically with your approval.
You delight in being second hand, a nonentity.

Are you that irredeemable?
Who bewitched you oh sons and daughters of Alkebulan?

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Bigsam99: 1:10pm On Jul 17
Zionist supporters, how can you explain this?

Menachem Begin, who later became prime minister of Israel, was a wanted terrorist.

You people need to stop following media narratives and start analysing history realistically.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Ska333ko: 1:22pm On Jul 17
Lawag3:


The Crusades were a response to Islamic expansionism from the backwaters of Yemen and Saudi Islam invaded christian Syria, Turkey, Egypt, Lebanon,Armenia entered Europe took Spain took Eastern Europe they took all of this Trough wars and conquest turn formally christian lands to Muslim territories.

The Christian crusaders were looking to take back those land. Remember the Muslims attacked first.

The word infidels were used by Muslims to describe non Muslims christians used the term sinners.


Oya which bible verse told them to attack and kill muslims. Bring it out let's see.
I would be happy if you can proof to me that crusader is only against the Muslim expansion
Moreover are these listed crusade were against Muslim as you mentioned?
Barons' Crusade.
Crusade against the Mongols.
Crusade of James I of Aragon.
Crusade against the Colonna Cardinals.
Hospitaller Crusade
Expedition of the Almogavars
Crusade against the Catalan Grand Company.
Smyrna Crusade
Crusade of Humbert II of Viennois.
Crusade against Charles III.

Lemme show you what you have never seen " crusade against Christian "
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Crusades

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 1:24pm On Jul 17
post=131003197]Zionist supporters, how can you explain this?

Menachem Begin, who later became prime minister of Israel, was a wanted terrorist.

You people need to stop following media narratives and start analysing history realistically. [/quote]


Young man think before you write, before the creation of the state isreal he was A leader of a militant group fighting against the British government controlling then Palestine he and others were instrumental in the creation of the Jewish state, he was declared wanted by the British government/b].

[b]There is no evidence of him tag him to that bombings
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 1:42pm On Jul 17
Bigsam99:
Saudi Arabian terrorists have also bombed Americans. Most of the terrorists that bombed the world trade centre are from Saudi. Did the US attack Saudi?

Even Jewish terrorists attacked and killed British officials in the 1940s. Some of the people that became revered Israeli leaders were once labelled terrorists by the west.



The underwear bomber, a Nigerian national almost blew a plane off the sky, if he was successful will the USA attack nigeria because the suicide bomber was a Nigerian, dose that make sense to you?

Osama was a Saudi national, his group was expelled from the suadi kingdom, he sought refuged in the taliban controlled Afghanistan, his group was headquarters in the northern mountainous region of Afghanistan, it was in Afghanistan he and his cohorts planned the attacks on America, the taliban refused to hand him over thus the invasion of Afghanistan.

invading Afghanistan was done to capture/kill Osama bin laden and destory the capabilities of Alqaeda this had nothing to do with nationalities of dose respisbible for the attacks.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by emmaodet: 1:42pm On Jul 17
Alamkir:


Pls does anyone know When Isreal will invade Lebanon? I have been waiting since.

When the US gives the greenlight but for now, the US can't because she fears her Carrier ships would be targeted by Russian missiles as retaliation.
Until US gets the firm greenlight from Russia they won't strike their carrier ships, the US won't give Isreal the greenlight to invade

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Betscoreodds: 1:43pm On Jul 17
Exactly government that are majorly Christians did those crusades not children of God.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by ObamaMessi: 1:54pm On Jul 17
jjj37:

Is my ear paining me.? 🤣 try asking around small na!!
Which heat.? Is it the one you suffered inside the womb as a result of infections from your parents irresponsible lifestyle.?? Can't you see you were born with your brain upside down?? This heat is affecting your reasoning and behaviour.. Just rest my brother it's very glaring you were born unfortunate.
Ah, the folly that courses through thy lineage! Thy words, a torrent of trash, besmirching the air like a miasmic cloud. Thy progenitors, blind to the consequences, brought thee into being, a curse upon the earth. May their decision be consigned to the abyss of eternal regret.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by jjj37: 2:13pm On Jul 17
ObamaMessi:

Ah, the folly that courses through thy lineage! Thy words, a torrent of trash, besmirching the air like a miasmic cloud. Thy progenitors, blind to the consequences, brought thee into being, a curse upon the earth. May their decision be consigned to the abyss of eternal regret.
Boy, just keep quiet there., You should even be envying a miscarried baby who didnt make it.. to be frank with you, you are as useless as what comes out of that your faeces brain.
This world that you are can only favour you in just two ways.. either as tissue or manure., you're so grossly unfortunate!!

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