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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by Maria96: 2:13pm On Jul 18 |
chrisifeanyi:this is one example. If you go on Nigerians in Canada instagram page there are more. If you choose to come to Canada as a student. Come with at least half of that POF. Some of the ladies have resorted to semi olosho work( sex in exchange for accommodation). 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by Kurukuru: 2:14pm On Jul 18 |
Good day everybody, please permit me to give my opinion on the recent changes in the Canadian student immigration process, and its implications on the future spousal open work permit. I am not a lawyer but I am a bit familiar with the Canada immigration events. One of the major red flags the visa officer relies on to refuse temporary resident applications is the presence of family member in Canada. Although there are mixed jurisprudence on this subject matter. Some judges like Justice Joseph Shore had ruled in Bteich v The Minister of Citizenship and Immigration that it is unreasonable for the office to conclude that applicant will illegally live in Canada simply because of the family ties in Canada, some Judges like Justice Diner in Hajiyeva v. The Minister of Citizenship and Immigration ruled that the presence of an immediate family member in Canada such as applicant's spouse was a reasonable factor to refuse an application. Justice Diner ruled as follows: "while the Applicant’s parents and brother would remain in Azerbaijan, her immediate family (husband and children) would join her in Canada; she indicated her husband would obtain a work permit and gain international work experience, and her children would attend school and be exposed to Canadian values. The Officer’s finding regarding her incentives to remain in Canada were reasonable. Here, the finding that her evidence and supporting documentation fell short of demonstrating that she would leave Canada at the end of her study period was open to the Officer" This concern was mostly overcome in the past by the spouses of international students applying for the Spousal open work permit by the dual intent doctrine. The dual intent favoured the spouses of international students because the international students would gain a Post Graduate Work Permit and apply for PR. Now that Canada is planning to change their law in relation to the postgraduate work permit, the issuance of postgraduate work permit will no more be automatic. Issuance will not be based on the Canada labour needs. The implication of this is that there is no more automatic pathway to PR for the international students. Therefore, dual intent wont be helpful to the spouses of the international students who will be applying for spousal open work permit. All our emotional explanation of "I want to be with my husband because of bla bla bla" in the context of spousal open work permit may simply be no way to overcome the pure mathematics of the family members by our emotional explanation and our country of origin where evrrybody wants tp japa. These Oyinbos are aware of these facts. One might need to be a bit cautious in seemingly explaining the family’s plans to ‘settle’ in Canada (as workers and students) and how that may detract from both the study plan but also create the reasonableness of an intention to immigrate or stay permanently especially if dual intention is otherwise not established. Thank you. 1 Like |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by chrisifeanyi: 2:23pm On Jul 18 |
Maria96: Why are you there? Come back naa 3 Likes |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by Maria96: 2:25pm On Jul 18 |
chrisifeanyi:i’m not a student. I’m a citizen and have a job. No one is saying dont come. Just come with enough money jobs have been scarce for students this year. Shalom 3 Likes |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by chrisifeanyi: 2:30pm On Jul 18 |
Maria96: What of someone with SOWP? Is there job? Can the person stay for four months without job? |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by MarksmanD: 2:54pm On Jul 18 |
People are staying 1 year in Canada without jobs. I mean permanent residents. I have friends, ex-colleagues who are permanent residents in Canada and they have all complained. Bros, if you don't have money for the Proof of funds, please don't go there. The cost of living is very high. That was why Canada increased the POF to 20k. Of course, it's better place than Nigeria, but prepare yourself mentally to face a completely different system with no jobs and high cost of living. To japa good, but to japa with a plan and enough money is the best. I had to mentally prepare myself before I decided to enter this study visa route. chrisifeanyi: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by chrisifeanyi: 3:03pm On Jul 18 |
MarksmanD: Imagine stayinf for one year without job. That means Nigeria is better naa. No how person no go fit see job for naija even if na small pay. What is the heck about travelling to Canada then? Is there any thing to be happy about? If I come with enough money, is there hope of job eventually or should we all boycot travelling to Canada? So I fit still come with wifey under SOWP she no go still see job? How we go take take care of kids naa? If I finish my money in six months or 1 year how do we cope naa? Is there anything to be cheerful about Canada? Everything I dey hear from you guys dey scary I swear. Wetin be the solution? Do we now have to come with money for the two years study and expenses and forget about job in Canada? Is it as bad as this? Haaa 1 Like |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by MarksmanD: 3:16pm On Jul 18 |
Boss, no one is trying to scare you. Good things don't come easy in life. Do you want to give your kids a better life? Do you want to live in an environment where your rights would be respected? Are you tired of being looked down because of a Nigerian passport? Most people who japa suffer in their first year or two, but after they don't remember the suffering phase. The job and housing crisis is a phase because Canada didn't really prepare for mass migration and this is the effect of it. If you're a skilled worker, I'm certain you won't be unemployed for a year. I'm not trying to discourage, but please come with enough money. I mean your own money or money you have access to and not money that you got from POF subscription. chrisifeanyi: |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by Predator188: 3:44pm On Jul 18 |
Trudeau government is rethinking how it gives work permits..
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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by Predator188: 4:05pm On Jul 18 |
MarksmanD:"but canada didn't increase POF because of high cost of living! |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by ednut1(m): 4:37pm On Jul 18 |
Predator188:https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/news/2023/12/revised-requirements-to-better-protect-international-students.html They did |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by Predator188: 5:16pm On Jul 18 |
ednut1:The root cause of the increase of POF is the key factor here ... Blame the international students in canada who protested to federal government to maintain unlimited work hours pay week to offset high cost of living in canada.. Canada government was not aware that previous POF was not sufficient for international students.. It was the international students basis just to work unlimited hours a week that caused the increase of POF to offset high cost of living.. Immigration canada makes policies by survey... That's why I said they didn't increase POF because of high cost of living .. https://ca.news.yahoo.com/international-students-advocates-canada-permanently-110000635.html
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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by Daaaz0409: 6:56pm On Jul 18 |
JMG12:Thank you for your response, my dad actually sold one of his properties. The payment was made in tranches. 10,10 and 15m for three days. I included the sales agreement when submitting my application. How else can I prove the property was actually sold. The 45m has been in his account for the past 2 months now and I’m planning to reapply ending of the month. Should I ask him to send the money to my own account and do an affidavit then maybe I can get the Mybankstatement thing? Your input will be highly appreciated |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by Daveconsult007: 7:04pm On Jul 18 |
MarksmanD: @the bolded , Has this policy already been implemented , I thought it was in consultation with stakeholders |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by Daveconsult007: 7:34pm On Jul 18 |
ednut1: Bros ,hold money o. Not God matter o. There's a reason Proof of Financial Support is required......atleast have funds for your early months(6 months minimum) 1 Like |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by Daveconsult007: 7:38pm On Jul 18 |
chrisifeanyi: Sadly but true |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by Popson09: 8:19pm On Jul 18 |
Hello House, please I need a clarification on this issue. Hope it is not a red flag if I register my side hustle job two months prior to my visa application |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by JMG12: 8:30pm On Jul 18 |
That is good, but you have no proof of how your dad earned the 45M that has been in his account for the past 2 months, or the source of his finance. Daaaz0409: |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by madelynntmoses: 8:38pm On Jul 18 |
I saw your post while looking for something myself. Thanks for sharing the MyBankticket process for GTB—it sounds pretty straightforward! I'm sure lots of folks here will find that info super helpful. It's great to see everyone pitching in with advice and encouragement on this thread. Applying for visas can be nerve-wracking, so having this community for support is fantastic.To those of you in the midst of it all, hang in there! Waiting on emails can be a pain, but it's usually worth it. And to those who've already gone through it, major props for sharing your experiences—it does make a difference.Good luck to all the TRV Simify applicants out there! Feel free to drop a message if anyone needs more tips or wants to chat about the process. |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by Flakky26(f): 9:16pm On Jul 18 |
God bless you. Pls help with IRCC email address SOPWriter: |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by Daaaz0409: 10:20pm On Jul 18 |
JMG12:that’s because he’s retired and he got most of the properties while still in service. What can a retired person show as proof please if you have any idea 🙏🏻. |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by ibcircuit: 3:49am On Jul 19 |
Hello please, I don't know if this can be a red flag for me . On my BVN my name is arranged such that the middle name is in place of my surname , and that is what is shown on my bank statement and probably my police report . On my passport and educational documents the arrangement is correct .The spellings are all correct though . Can this have any issues at canada embassy ? |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by Abdul111: 4:29am On Jul 19 |
Good morning everyone please is there any group chat for Nigeria students or Nigerians in Calgary? I’d like to be added. |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by Educhopper(m): 5:20am On Jul 19 |
Be patient. They would be granted soonest. Sometimes delays happens. Yeezy24: |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by KINGTELLER: 6:41am On Jul 19 |
JMG12: The officer is being stupid, most of the temporary resident visa officer dont follow IRCC procedural guideline and policy that guides them on what criteria they should considered while rejecting or granting visa application. They act on applicant's visa application, mostly especially for people from our continent, with disdain. There is no where in IRCC guidelines where it is stated that a sponsor must show their source of income flow aside presenting the bank statement or other acceptable proof of fund for the visa application. It is all due to our oversabi, they have now taken it as a norm to act beyond their jurisdiction looking for what is not lost to deny visas. Imagine a VO rejecting a visa application because sponsor didnt want to show his salary account in accordance to the freedom of protected personal information privacy act of Canada, even though the sponsor clearly demonstrated their income via their other bank statement alongside with their employment letter, payslip, reference letter from employer which is also one of the govt agency in Canada. The slowpoke VO denied a visa because "sponsor refuse to show their "source" of PoF fund which is the sponsor's salary account bank statement" ignoring their own IRCC procedural guideline and policy which states: "...A temporary resident visa application will not be refused just because the host’s personal information is not provided with the application... "_ 2 Likes |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by JMG12: 11:51am On Jul 19 |
Yes, someone shared a GCMS note with me, the person submitted his dad's employment details and a reference letter from the bank stating that he is a signatory to the dad's account, the VO refused the SP and mistook the account for the PA, stated that the PA didn't submit employment documents, income tax, ownership of bank document on file. These people do as it pleases them. KINGTELLER: |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by JMG12: 11:53am On Jul 19 |
You need to correct the error this name implies that the account is for someone else. You should be able to make the correct in the bank. ibcircuit: |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by Andajo: 11:56am On Jul 19 |
Good day, I would appreciate any form of assistance given in this case. I hold a BSC in human anatomy, with CGPA of 3.6, I would like to apply nursing in one of these low tuition Canadian schools, initially, I was thinking of applying the nursing after degree program at University of Lethbridge but can't find enough information on it from my browsing the internet, like reviews from international students, then I stumbled on a write here that says admissions into 2 year nursing degree in Canada is too competitive for international students and suggested practical nursing. I would like if one can suggest low tuition Canadian schools that offer practical nursing to me please 2 Likes |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by Jeboy(m): 1:28pm On Jul 19 |
Not that Nigeria is better, Nigeria is just cheaper because we re the poverty capital of the world so someone can manage 50k (50 CAD) for a month and still survive. Cheaper is not equivalent to better. chrisifeanyi: 1 Like |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by endlessjoyy: 1:42pm On Jul 19 |
fadebayo19: Hi! I’ll recommend you use Pay4Me App for this. They do cross border payments for international students plus you can pay in your local currency. They are also super fast in carrying out transactions too. |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by sternakin(m): 2:32pm On Jul 19 |
Having read through posts and comments, I want to believe it's pertinent for visa applicants to pay attention to POF, source of fund on account and home tie. In the recent time, about 65% of refusal is coming as a result of inadequate POF or failure to convincingly explain the source of POF especially with sudden heavy deposit into your account, more to that 35% of denials were based on insufficient assets/home ties. It can be so painful that an applicant will get denied after spending so much, even on POF due to unexplained source of the fund backed with proper verifiable documents. Often times, people wonder why their visa applications were denied based on "insufficient assets" or insufficient home ties" or "unexplained source of huge deposit on account " despite submitting copies of landed property title documents which probably do not contain the current value of such property. Imagine a land bought 4yrs ago for N3m and you still submit receipt and deed showing that amount in 2024 when probably the current value is N15m and could be more if you've built on the land say a bungalow making it to worth N35m but your receipt is showing N3m, the visa officer can conclude your asset is insufficient because he/she is not presented with a document to show the current worth. Therefore, it not all about including landed property title documents only in your application, you need additional document that tells the current monetary worth of the property(ies) and would also demonstrate how the property(ies) will motivate your departure after your study or vacation and how you plan to utilise the property(ties) upon your return home. VERY IMPORTANT!!! That vital document you need is a valuation report. Valuation report is a document prepared by a firm of registered Estate Surveyors & Valuers showing the current market value(s) in monetary worth of your landed property(ties), use of the property (either residential as owner occupied or rented for income generation, your future plan for the property etc). So, it can also be used as proof of additional source of income as the case may be or back up landed asset liquidated to raise fund on account for your study purpose (i.e source of fund). In other word, it's a multipurpose document that can boost your chance of visa approval. So, often times, huge money in the bank alone might not guarantee your approval but other support documents like your property/assets valuation report could do the magic. Above all ensure you have enough accessible fund on account before you landed in Canada as you might be required to show your balance at the point of entry or else you can be sent back home and if you're fortunate to scale through, life could be difficult if you don't have enough. Remain Blessed |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 23 by KINGTELLER: 3:02pm On Jul 19 |
sternakin: Even IRCC themselves know they are only acting on our "Japa gullibility" to demand unnecessary source of fund documentation. There is a limit to which a VO can have access to people's privacy. Why is it that all these uneccessary source of fund documentation they ask for is only applicable to Temporary resident visa applicants and not permanent resident visa. This is one of the reason some applicants falsify and tell huge lies to convince VO, and the country keep admitting liars as residents even their citizens can't bear it any longer 1 Like |
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