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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:55pm On Jul 21 |
zicky: I have answered. Better is subjective to views. The question is also devoid of the point. The point is accepting a system is superior by parking bus against it and trying to downplay it. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:56pm On Jul 21 |
Amedino99: We beat Ancelotti last two seasons, knocked them out of the Champions League and beat them 4-0 in a game. So I wonder where you got can't beat him. Real Madrid won by penalties, that is not equivalent to beating. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 5:10pm On Jul 21 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Hanibal(m): 5:37pm On Jul 21 |
TheGoodJoe: Who made the rule that "defensive low block" and counter attacking derogatorily referred to as "park the bus" is not a style of play/tactics? Who made the rule/law? You? Guardiola? What substantiates this your assertion? Some of us enjoy the style... We Chelsea fans of old, does that make us less of football fans? Baba just rest, nor be everybody go embrace tikitaka or whatever robotic style Guardiola and his goons love.... This (tikitaka) too shall pass. On a serious note; I'm beginning to suspect Komekn has hacked your account... Because the way you take dey argue certain positions these days is unlike you... Just shifting goal post everywhere Someone should please check on this baba 15 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 6:02pm On Jul 21 |
TheGoodJoe:why did you stop at 2 seasons ago? What about what happened 3 seasons ago in the semi final? 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 6:07pm On Jul 21 |
Kog45:This version of TheGoodJoe no get talk. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 6:21pm On Jul 21 |
kennysville:We need our old version of TheGoodJoe back. This intensity modern version of TheGoodJoe is always off the mark. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 6:43pm On Jul 21 |
TheGoodJoe:What is the ultimate purpose of this game? For me is to win championships or tournaments like WC,CL,EURO,AFCON etc. as many as u can. And to achieve any of these,u need to win games, and to win games,u need a strategy or tactics that works for u. What makes your strategy superior is the results. Ancelotti has achieved his ultimate goal. All other things like who played better does not matter when the ultimate purpose have been achieved. 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 7:07pm On Jul 21 |
TheGoodJoe:Yeah you are always right. Good job sir. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:51pm On Jul 21 |
Napoleon55: I did not argue with that notion in any way in my post. I said Ancelotti parked bus to win a game against a better side. Ancelotti is talking about coaching and I said he is not in the position to criticize the modern coaches when he decided to park bus to win against it. The point is simple. It is not about win or lose. It is about coaching a team to be better. If he chose to park bus against a modern system, it means the coaching system was superior to what he offered. Finito. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:13pm On Jul 21 |
TheGoodJoe:Pls tell us what is modern system in today’s football? So football is not about winning or losing but coaching a team better….Ancelotti that won La liga and champions league is not coaching Real Madrid better or what are you talking about |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:40pm On Jul 21 |
Kog45: My point is very simple. When Ancelotti chose to park bus against the system, he accepted the superiority of the modern game. So it is hypocritical to condemn it after accepting its superiority. The point is simple. It is not Ancelotti is a park bus coach. It is not that Ancelotti has not won trophies. It is not Ancelotti is not a sound tactical coach. It is about Ancelotti accepting how superior the system is and deciding to park bus against it. Then trying to criticize it is hypocritical. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:45pm On Jul 21 |
Kog45: Ancelotti himself accepted that the only way he could win Manchester City was to Park Bus. That is, he accepted he can't go toe to toe with them. He could only defend and hope to win. So what is he talking that the modern coaches are over coaching. Heck, he said you can't win without parking the bus. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 10:00pm On Jul 21 |
TheGoodJoe:And how does parking the bus made your team superior? I mean logically, whichever team that wins a match is the superior team. So I ask, how does the fact that a team parked the bus made them inferior? Back it up with valid facts please. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by akwesenana: 10:00pm On Jul 21 |
TheGoodJoe:If the system was superior to his, why didn't it prevail against his? 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 10:02pm On Jul 21 |
Hanibal:Thegoodjoe. Here is a simple illustration. What do you have to say about the example cited here? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 10:03pm On Jul 21 |
akwesenana:Brilliant question!!! I can bet he won't answer. He will try to dribble as usual 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:19pm On Jul 21 |
akwesenana: I have seen Super teams get beaten by very weak teams. So this point is flawed. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:21pm On Jul 21 |
mostob: I wonder where you get the analogy. So if Preston beats Manchester United by parking bus, they are a superior team. How does that sound logical? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by akwesenana: 10:23pm On Jul 21 |
mostob:Lol, he'll prefer to "pass round aimlessly" 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by akwesenana: 10:29pm On Jul 21 |
TheGoodJoe:Yeah, true. This happens once in a while not regularly. What do you have to say about this "superior system" being knocked out twice in 3 years by this "inferior" system? 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 10:30pm On Jul 21 |
TheGoodJoe:oga you never still mentioned the more tactically astute coaches to Ancelotti, you just keep screaming 😱 he park the bus against man city as if it's an offense in football. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by akwesenana: 10:31pm On Jul 21 |
Ancellotti's pragmatism is what has kept him in the highest echelons of coaching for so long, ability to adjust your tactics with each opponent, instead of blindly sticking to one tactics even when it isn't working. 6 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 10:34pm On Jul 21 |
TheGoodJoe:oga mi that the point you made, you said yourself, that modern coaches are more tactically astute than Ancelotti. And at no time did I argue that with you, I only said mentioned the coaches shikina. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 10:38pm On Jul 21 |
TheGoodJoe: You admit Ancelotti is a tactical coach & not a park the bus coach and the man is saying "the way I play o I don't stifle creativity in my team". How does that have anything to do with the other system being tactically superior? It is just your compulsive argument syndrome worrying you. A coach with the most UCL trophy! Wetin you know sef wey make you arrogant like this 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 10:41pm On Jul 21 |
TheGoodJoe:Oga Ancelotti real Madrid has beaten Guardiola Bayern 4-0 also, also beaten Guardiola man city 3-1 so leave that talk of we beat them last season. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 10:43pm On Jul 21 |
The same Ancelotti that resoundingly trounced Pep at Bayern 5-0 agg. Who sent him packing 3 seasons ago (fun fact: it is this same freedom he is talking about that Rodrygo took advantage of that day) But selective amnesia only wants to talk about 2 seasons ago and emotive bias says why did he defend. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 10:44pm On Jul 21 |
Is there any update about Nacho's new club? Ever since he was released there have been little to no reports on his movement so far. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 10:51pm On Jul 21 |
Amedino99:Aston Villa want to sign him as Jhon Duran’s replacement but hv to sell the player first before bringing him in |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 10:52pm On Jul 21 |
Odunayaw:Even yum yum fc he can never coach, but we should take your knowledge of the game as more superior to one of the most successful coaches 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:57pm On Jul 21 |
zicky: But Guardiola did not park bus. Also, there is a back story behind Guardiola's Bayern los. There was a fall out in camp and the Bayern players chose not to play with Pep's tactics and it backfired. Finito. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:59pm On Jul 21 |
Odunayaw: If my memory serves right, Ancelotti said the problem with modern coaches. I disagree with the notion especially when it overwhelmed him and he parked bus against it. With all the trophies, he chose to park bus. A coach that is not a park bus coach. Finito. |
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