tensazangetsu20:
Suicide rates especially amongst young men are also quite high. A very close Chilean friend of mine son committed suicide and I have been so sad since I heard the news. The lady always spoke about her son with so much pride. Noticed her son left the house since Tuesday and switched off his phone so no one could reach him. She went to the police so they could search for him. The police came to deliver the sad news today that unfortunately they found his body by the river.

It pains me till now but life in Chile can get really depressing and extremely difficult depending on what class of the society you are in. It's a very classist country.

This is tensazangetsu20 ugly face. The most useless fool after Gerrard59

Tensa is one of those guys that has de marketed himself for reasons I don't understand.

The guy is actually a fine boy by Nigeria or Africa standard.

I'm sure Gerrard59 is also not bad looking too. What I don't understand is how they would tag themselves ugly.

This life ehn.

tensazangetsu20:
Chile Is an amazing country but unfortunately it's not paradise. Chile as a country has very deep internal issues and most of these issues do not show on the surface.

You don't get to see Chile's issues until you start interacting with Chileans and get to see life through their own perspective.

The wage inequality in Chile is very real. A simple internet search will show you that Chile has one of the largest income Inequalities in the world but if you come to Chile, it's not very apparent. Most people tend to dress well and somehow look fresh but men life is hard.

Let's say you live in the same city I live in and you earn the Chilean minimum wage of around 500000 Chilean pesos which comes to around 500 usd a month. A single room in this city. A room not a house goes for 200000 pesos. You would also pay a tax of around 50000 pesos on that money. What's left after that. How are you gonna eat? How are you gonna buy clothes and all.

The education gap is also very wide. It's very expensive to go to school in Chile from primary school to university so if you are born in a low income household you are pretty much bleeped to be honest. It will take the grace of god to pull out. To be born to a poor single mother household in Chile is equivalent to being born an almajiri in Nigeria. There's really not much difference. Life on earth would be hell for both people.

Another problem I have noticed is that the family unit in Chile is completely broken. A lot of Chilean men are very irresponsible and that has led to a huge number of single mothers. It's almost an epidemic here. There's like so many single mothers. Most times these kids are left to the mothers to raise and it's extremely difficult especially if the lady doesn't have a good career or profession going for her.

Truly every country in this world has issues and there's really no perfect country on earth. I like Chile for what I have gained here and the opportunities I have gotten access to but Chile has really deep issues and I feel those issues are what makes Chile a second world country despite how developed the country is. I feel a whole lot more work will need to be done by the government to reduce the wage gap for Chile to actually be a first world nation in the true sense of it.

This is interesting reading from someone who is living there.

One thing that helps people get out of poverty is FAMILY, people must learn the long term gains of collective sacrifice. What you describe isn't so different from poverty in the USA. In that situation, a man & woman with a few children who work hard together can definitely make it to the middle class in one generation, which is about 25 years. That's doable especially in a place with a basic level of law and order and free markets. It can't be otherwise.

Please accept my thanks for your post. Your feelings came through. I wish you well and hope you will be of good comfort to your bereaved friend.

Good Luck to Chile.

Gerrard59:


The government dey follow pay gay men stipends?

Damn! You should have informed since na. I love the breasts of men. Chilean men get big breasts?

I don't know what's up here. You and Tensa are two guys I admire. Please 🙏 Even if na joke, abeg make una chill.

Good Luck to Nigerians

Tightpussy2024:

I am even glad you indicated poor in your research. You purposefully target not wealthy societies without child support laws in your research.
Why not ask of single parenting in Switzerland, Denmark and the rest? Always east Asian and black communities. You are looking for what you want to see and you find it.

First, after the geographical West, East Asia comprising China, Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong, Taiwan and their cultural cousins in Singapore, are the wealthiest set of folks in the world. Those countries and their cities compete favourably with their Western peers. Some are members of the OECD and all are members of the US Visa Program. So, they are not poor.

As for Denmark and Switzerland, it is always easy and cheap to provide socialist programs in homogenous countries with small populations. Both countries don't have up to 15 million people combined. So, it is easy to do yanfu-yanfu with public funds. Heterogeneous countries which are racially, ethnically and religiously diverse should not attempt the same. It would lead to bad outcomes. Again, evidence has been stated.

As far as I know, the society a SM is , has more effect than that of her being a SM herself. Where I reside, the kids spends time with both parents. The child receiving care from both father and step father.you will purposely target societies of poverty where the man runs away or is in prison and nothing compels him to, to reinforce your claims.

The two-parent household still holds. The erstwhile husband is still present - emotionally and financially. However, that is an exception as exemplified by similar events elsewhere. Again, East Asia is not poor. Does Hong Kong or South Korea sound like poor places to you?

By all means if society notices it causes a problem they should enforce laws to curb it. I am in for this.

We agree on something, for once. Good gracious Lord.

ll I asked is give the same research to the impacts of adultery.

Every concept or ideology has positive and negative impacts. However, as seen, single parenting has more adverse than adultery as adultery is linked to biology whereas single parenting isn't. It is like outlawing prostitution vs cybercrime. One is common because it is performed by humans because of their biological inklings. However, cybercrime is a criminal act.

Gerrard59:


First, after the geographical West, East Asia comprising China, Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong, Taiwan and their cultural cousins in Singapore, are the wealthiest set of folks in the world. Those countries and their cities compete favourably with their Western peers. Some are members of the OECD and all are members of the US Visa Program. So, they are not poor.

As for Denmark and Switzerland, it is always easy and cheap to provide socialist programs in homogenous countries with small populations. Both countries don't have up to 15 million people combined. So, it is easy to do yanfu-yanfu with public funds. Heterogeneous countries which are racially, ethnically and religiously diverse should not attempt the same. It would lead to bad outcomes. Again, evidence has been stated.



The two-parent household still holds. The erstwhile husband is still present - emotionally and financially. However, that is an exception as exemplified by similar events elsewhere. Again, East Asia is not poor. Does Hong Kong or South Korea sound like poor places to you?



We agree on something, for once. Good gracious Lord.

Every concept or ideology has positive and negative impacts. However, as seen, single parenting has more adverse than adultery as adultery is linked to biology whereas single parenting isn't. It is like outlawing prostitution vs cybercrime. One is common because it is performed by humans because of their biological inklings. However, cybercrime is a criminal act.

Fine. You target societies in Asia and black communities. Every society should know what bothers them . my problem is you stating that ANY SOCIETY permitting it is doomed. Wherever you demographics is,let them practice their sanctioning. leave "small countries alone". Russia has one of the highest rate of SP. Your mantra on this forum on its effects is not witnessed there. So let your Asian and black societies shun SP. Don't impose it on the world. What l stated is not an exception, it is common ( in developed societies off course). I have had my friends introduce people as their step parents.

I am still waiting for an answer on the effects of adultery by men

Gerrard59:


First, after the geographical West, East Asia comprising China, Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong, Taiwan and their cultural cousins in Singapore, are the wealthiest set of folks in the world. Those countries and their cities compete favourably with their Western peers. Some are members of the OECD and all are members of the US Visa Program. So, they are not poor.

As for Denmark and Switzerland, it is always easy and cheap to provide socialist programs in homogenous countries with small populations. Both countries don't have up to 15 million people combined. So, it is easy to do yanfu-yanfu with public funds. Heterogeneous countries which are racially, ethnically and religiously diverse should not attempt the same. It would lead to bad outcomes. Again, evidence has been stated.



The two-parent household still holds. The erstwhile husband is still present - emotionally and financially. However, that is an exception as exemplified by similar events elsewhere. Again, East Asia is not poor. Does Hong Kong or South Korea sound like poor places to you?



We agree on something, for once. Good gracious Lord.

Every concept or ideology has positive and negative impacts. However, as seen, single parenting has more adverse than adultery as adultery is linked to biology whereas single parenting isn't. It is like outlawing prostitution vs cybercrime. One is common because it is performed by humans because of their biological inklings. However, cybercrime is a criminal act.

And for the societies you claim it works; what makes you think its a socialist package that causes it? It's responsibility and accountability.

Are we even talking about the same thing to start with? Because I see you ferociously attacking out of wedlock births whether both parties are involved and invested dutifully or not.
Your impression is a man absconding or absent, and not a healthy co-parenting. Marriage is not for everyone. Leave responsible unwed couples and their kids alone. Leave societies where this is not a problem alone. Focus on your Asian and black and all the geographical locations you pick your stats from

Gerrard59:


The two-parent household still holds. The erstwhile husband is still present - emotionally and financially. However, that is an exception as exemplified by similar events elsewhere. Again, East Asia is not poor. Does Hong Kong or South Korea sound like poor places to you?

Anyone arguing against the value of a two-parent household is not worth engaging with; I would just leave them to their own misguided views. A stable two-parent family is the cornerstone of any society. This is one reason I have concerns about aspects of Black American culture. I believe that immigrants from India, Africa, and Mexico often excel because they tend to relocate with their families and maintain strong family structures. It’s challenging for a single-parent Black American household to compete academically or professionally with a two-parent immigrant household, and they often fall short.

Kelechi009:


Anyone arguing against the value of a two-parent household is not worth engaging with; I would just leave them to their own misguided views. A stable two-parent family is the cornerstone of any society. This is one reason I have concerns about aspects of Black American culture. I believe that immigrants from India, Africa, and Mexico often excel because they tend to relocate with their families and maintain strong family structures. It’s challenging for a single-parent Black American household to compete academically or professionally with a two-parent immigrant household, and they often fall short.

Yes, I look forward to the results of these social policies they promote. I want to see how they will defeat evolution and nature. My problem is the power of American media and government to cajole people outside the country to copy these ideas. For instance, Japan has seen tactical pressure from the Biden administration and his ambassador here to legalise LGBT marriage. This was not the same under Trump. The same applies to Uganda and Ghana being denied loans because of their anti-LGBT stances. I don't watch movies or listen to American musicians, so I am not bothered by that aspect.

Gerrard59:


Yes, I look forward to the results of these social policies they promote. I want to see how they will defeat evolution and nature. My problem is the power of American media and government to cajole people outside the country to copy these ideas. For instance, Japan has seen tactical pressure from the Biden administration and his ambassador here to legalise LGBT marriage. This was not the same under Trump. The same applies to Uganda and Ghana being denied loans because of their anti-LGBT stances. I don't watch movies or listen to American musicians, so I am not bothered by that aspect.

The tactical pressure will be worse under Kamala and the results of the policies they promote are already showing in America. Once a person starts arguing for single parenthood, just know their brain is fried.

Tightpussy2024:

And for the societies you claim it works; what makes you think its a socialist package that causes it? It's responsibility and accountability.

As I stated, it works because they are homogenous countries with small populations. These policies cannot work just anywhere without factoring in the wealth, size and components of the populations.

Are we even talking about the same thing to start with? Because I see you ferociously attacking out of wedlock births whether both parties are involved and invested dutifully or not.

Wedlock generally is bad. That is how I see it. Nothing will change that stance.

Your impression is a man absconding or absent, and not a healthy co-parenting. Focus on your Asian and black and all the geographical locations you pick your stats from

"Healthy co-parenting"? Another fancy lovey-dovey phase. Did you not agree with me that no DECENT woman will agree to be a baby-mama rather than a wife? So, isn't it possible to have "healthy co-parenting" with a decent woman who is a baby mama?

Tightpussy2024:

Apt

Marriage is not for everyone. Leave responsible unwed couples and their kids alone.

I agree that marriage is not for everyone, but a society that promotes unwedded persons to have children in an unstructured model, aka "healthy co-parenting" and "decent baby mama and papas" is DOOMED. You saw it as Tensa20 explained it. Neither you nor I live in Chile. He does. He even shared the data with me to corroborate the high rate of single motherhood in the sub-region of Argentina, Chile and Uruguay. Chile was the highest. You read him clearly stated that children from single-parent homes, especially those led by the mothers, will likely fail in life. This is a raw example. So, how are they responsible, both men and women, in having children outside marriage yet cannot cater for them? Do you imagine the consequences of having such persons and their end products constitute 50-70% of the general population who have children?

Leave societies where this is not a problem alone.

It is a problem, if not policymakers will not be interested in increasing the birth rates from married households. They will be focused on increasing the number of single women to have children without husbands after all the total fertility rates still increase. But as clearly shown even in the gender-equal Nordic societies, policymakers DON'T encourage children outside marriage.. It is commonsense for policymakers to support married couples because married couples out-earn their single counterparts, they purchase homes, care for their immediate environments, raise the next generation, pay more taxes, consume more goods and build a better society. Single people as a whole don't achieve these core aims of any functioning society, and certainly not people who have children outside of marriage, aka "healthy co-parenting".

"Birth rates are falling in the Nordics. Are family-friendly policies no longer enough?" - FT
Open the article and read from the Finnish demographer, Anna Rotkirch, a policy expert on the issue. There was nowhere she encouraged children outside of marriage. This is a wealthy and homogenous society that is adjudged to be gender equal, yet doesn't encourage wedlock aka "healthy co-parenting".

Kelechi009:


The tactical pressure will be worse under Kamala and the results of the policies they promote are already showing in America.

One of the main reasons I want her to lose, and to do so woefully. Let each society determine its trajectory without being pressured. Donald never pressured any country to accept America's ways. Just don't attack its core economic and military interests.

Ikoyi, Lekki and Twitter Democrats will say otherwise, but I wish to see them raising transgendered children.

Once a person starts arguing for single parenthood, just know their brain is fried.

What surprises me is seeing seemingly educated people advocate for a policy which harms the general society, and more so poor people, in the long-term. It is befuddling.

Tightpussy2024:

Fine. You target societies in Asia and black communities. Every society should know what bothers them. my problem is you stating that ANY SOCIETY permitting it is doomed. Wherever you demographics is,let them practice their sanctioning. leave "small countries alone"

Fine, but as I stated in my previous reply to you with an example from Nordic countries, policymakers don't agree with you. Yes, any society that promotes wedlock, single parenting and baby mamaism and papaism is DOOMED. I am not changing my stance on an issue which has facts to support it. Point me gun, I no do.

Russia has one of the highest rate of SP. Your mantra on this forum on its effects is not witnessed there.

Russia is technically a doomed society with high rates of alcoholism. What helps it are: its degree of homogeneity, vast amounts of natural resources such as crude oil and a Soviet Union math education foundation. Also, because of its historical geopolitical issues with the West, trading partners are fewer and most times poorer.

So let your Asian and black societies shun SP. Don't impose it on the world. What l stated is not an exception, it is common ( in developed societies off course). I have had my friends introduce people as their step parents.

Anecdotal evidence, sorry, cannot be applied to the general society. Policymakers DON'T encourage the wanton spread of single parenting and baby mamaism and papaism with doses of "healthy co-parenting". That is a universal fact.

I am still waiting for an answer on the effects of adultery by men

In comparison to single parenting, baby mamaism and papaism with doses of "healthy co-parenting", the effects of adultery are less on the general society. Again, adultery as I have explained is largely biological, so it can be accepted grudgingly. Baby papaism and mamaism are not.

Gerrard59:

One of the main reasons I want her to lose, and to do so woefully. Let each society determine its trajectory without being pressured. Donald never pressured any country to accept America's ways. Just don't attack its core economic and military interests.

Ikoyi, Lekki and Twitter Democrats will say otherwise, but I wish to see them raising transgendered children.


What surprises me is seeing seemingly educated people advocate for a policy which harms the general society, and more so poor people, in the long-term. It is befuddling.

Same here, but I do think she would win eventually. I sense some arrogance & overconfidence with Trump.

Kelechi009:


Same here, but I do think she would win eventually. I sense some arrogance & overconfidence with Trump.

They should not under-rate her and most importantly don't attack her gender and racial background. He would be tempted but shouldn't fall into it.

Gerrard59:

Fine, but as I stated in my previous reply to you with an example from Nordic countries, policymakers don't agree with you. Yes, any society that promotes wedlock, single parenting and baby mamaism and papaism is DOOMED. I am not changing my stance on an issue which has facts to support it. Point me gun, I no do.



Russia is technically a doomed society with high rates of alcoholism. What helps it are: its degree of homogeneity, vast amounts of natural resources such as crude oil and a Soviet Union math education foundation. Also, because of its historical geopolitical issues with the West, trading partners are fewer and most times poorer.


Anecdotal evidence, sorry, cannot be applied to the general society. Policymakers DON'T encourage the wanton spread of single parenting and baby mamaism and papaism with doses of "healthy co-parenting". That is a universal fact.



In comparison to single parenting, baby mamaism and papaism with doses of "healthy co-parenting", the effects of adultery are less on the general society. Again, adultery as I have explained is largely biological, so it can be accepted grudgingly. Baby papaism and mamaism are not.

Oga, nobody is dragging anything with you.point you a gun at you because you are who? Or force you because? I just expressed my opinions, mine or yours cant change anything in the long run.
My stance has been simple, leave people who has the means ( financially, emotionally and psychologically) that wants children to have without bullying them into matrimony. Its that simple.
Before I left naija, was in talk with one of ned nwokos baby mama.
She has never wanted to marry. Never really being in a relationship. Will be relocating to the states with her daughter this September.
Your opinion on her being indecent cant wipe an ass. This is a part she chose. But live and let live is always difficult for your kind. Worse, people like you that cherrypick parts to support and not( supporting hookup and adultery then beginning a skewed research on what you dislike)

You still have not given me effects of adultery. I am not asking for comparison with single parenting. Don't know why its difficult.

Gerrard59:

Fine, but as I stated in my previous reply to you with an example from Nordic countries, policymakers don't agree with you. Yes, any society that promotes wedlock, single parenting and baby mamaism and papaism is DOOMED. I am not changing my stance on an issue which has facts to support it. Point me gun, I no do.



Russia is technically a doomed society with high rates of alcoholism. What helps it are: its degree of homogeneity, vast amounts of natural resources such as crude oil and a Soviet Union math education foundation. Also, because of its historical geopolitical issues with the West, trading partners are fewer and most times poorer.


Anecdotal evidence, sorry, cannot be applied to the general society. Policymakers DON'T encourage the wanton spread of single parenting and baby mamaism and papaism with doses of "healthy co-parenting". That is a universal fact.



In comparison to single parenting, baby mamaism and papaism with doses of "healthy co-parenting", the effects of adultery are less on the general society. Again, adultery as I have explained is largely biological, so it can be accepted grudgingly. Baby papaism and mamaism are not.

Russia is a doomed society ? Its one thing to be half ignorant and another to be half- ignorant plus arrogant in making wild claims. Russia? Lol.

So every where apart from your east Asia is bad? Lol.

Calling a dog a wolf because you need to shoot it.

Sadly, men and women in stable countries will have children when they wish, your stance can not make it doomed, neither can mine.

I am only worried with societies where it causes a problem though.

First you don't know the difference between single parenting and out of wedlock birth and babymamaism. When I tried to educated you on it, you called it lovey dovey word. The effects you trumpet daily are from fatherless homes. Yet you are bullying men and women into matrimony to have kids. So Ronaldo and his children, or davido and chioma who was a baby mama until his recent marriage with her nko? Their kids will be bad?

Allow responsible couples and adults have kids ( I am in support of laws coordinating this and thorough assessment is made ). No adult must endure matrimony just to have kids. Your reasoning is why lots of damaged and unmarriagable people are married and torturing their spouses because they need kids by all means. Imagine going into marriage just for kids alone.

Concerning adultery, please type on your browser, "what are the effects of male adultery in the society" . is it that hard? What are you scared of ? All responses you have given me are in comparison with single parenting, not straightforward and strawmanning.

Tightpussy2024:

Russia is a doomed society ? Its one thing to be half ignorant and another to be half- ignorant plus arrogant in making wild claims. Russia? Lol. So every where apart from your east Asia is bad? Lol.

I think you compare Russia to Africa, that is the problem. Compared to East Asia or the West, Russia is not a conducive society, especially economically, to thrive.

Calling a dog a wolf because you need to shoot it.

Sadly, men and women in stable countries will have children when they wish, your stance can not make it doomed, neither can mine.

Agreed, but as seen in the US and increasingly in the UK, there are effects with such ideologies.

I am only worried with societies where it causes a problem though.

Yet you disregard the data which shows this is a problem.

First you don't know the difference between single parenting and out of wedlock birth and babymamaism. When I tried to educated you on it, you called it lovey dovey word.

What is the difference between six and half a dozen?

The effects you trumpet daily are from fatherless homes. Yet you are bullying men and women into matrimony to have kids. So Ronaldo and his children, or davido and chioma who was a baby mama until his recent marriage with her nko? Their kids will be bad?

Expectedly, you provide examples where the couples are wealthy. This is the problem I have observed with so-called progressives - they popularise ideologies whose effects can be managed with lots of money but are detrimental to the majority of the populace as most people aren't wealthy or are at best average. Just as we have highly educated women promoting sexual liberation but forget that for most girls out there, the dangers could be very deleterious and managing them costs a lot of money.

Allow responsible couples and adults have kids ( I am in support of laws coordinating this and thorough assessment is made ). No adult must endure matrimony just to have kids. Your reasoning is why lots of damaged and unmarriagable people are married and torturing their spouses because they need kids by all means.

Again, the stats show that responsible couples and adults have children within the two parent household system. I quoted an article from the world's most gender-equal society.

Imagine going into marriage just for kids alone.

Then remain single or go the DINK route. Policymakers prefer citizens who have children to be married. How is that a bad thing? Didn't you read where I stated that married people contribute more to society than your lovey-dovey "healthy co-parenters"? Who does not wish for such in any society?

Concerning adultery, please type on your browser, "what are the effects of male adultery in the society" . is it that hard? What are you scared of ? All responses you have given me are in comparison with single parenting, not straightforward and strawmanning.

I searched and not even a handful of research papers, just opinion articles which listed some effects which when compared to the ill effects of single parenting are largely infinitesimal.

Tightpussy2024:

Oga, nobody is dragging anything with you.point you a gun at you because you are who? Or force you because? I just expressed my opinions, mine or yours cant change anything in the long run.

Apologies for being brash. My bad.

My stance has been simple, leave people who has the means ( financially, emotionally and psychologically) that wants children to have without bullying them into matrimony. Its that simple.

Again, not advisable in the long run for any society. Policymakers don't like it. It is not good for any society to have adults have children without being married. I stated how funny it is for you to say no decent woman can become a baby mama yet you support the same woman to have children without being married. How do you correlate traits of responsibility to having children without being married? Why do you believe that the majority of people in any society are responsible enough to engage in such an arrangement?

Before I left naija, was in talk with one of ned nwokos baby mama.
She has never wanted to marry. Never really being in a relationship. Will be relocating to the states with her daughter this September.
Your opinion on her being indecent cant wipe an ass. This is a part she chose. But live and let live is always difficult for your kind. Worse, people like you that cherrypick parts to support and not( supporting hookup and adultery then beginning a skewed research on what you dislike)

Again, an example of a wealthy person. Which society do you know that has more wealthy people than average folks? Why not choose examples from random households in Ibadan, Enugu and Gombe to study the effects of your lovey-dovey co-parenting? Why always the Lekki, Ikoyi, and Maitama versions? Between the former and the latter, which is prevalent in any given society? Which aspect do policymakers concern themselves with the most?

Gerrard59:




Again, not advisable in the long run for any society. Policymakers don't like it. It is not good for any society to have adults have children without being married. I stated how funny it is for you to say no decent woman can become a baby mama yet you support the same woman to have children without being married.
How do you correlate traits of responsibility to having children without being married?
Why do you believe that the majority of people in any society are responsible enough to engage in such an arrangement?

l have never claimed such. I said no woman will agree to be a baby mama just for $500 monthly welfare which is below minimum wage in the Usa. When ibekohie dishonestly claimed such

At the second bolded, maybe you and I have a different meaning for responsibility. I see irresponsibility in having kids due to sexual recklessness, without having the means to cater for them , without both parents being fully involved or for the wrong reasons ( to trap a man or leech on him). This & many other reasons I may not include.your statistics, policymakers and you can feel free to disagree

This is not for the majority, off course. Just like LGBT and the rest. This is a part some will take.

Again, an example of a wealthy person. Which society do you know that has more wealthy people than average folks? Why not choose examples from random households in Ibadan, Enugu and Gombe to study the effects of your lovey-dovey co-parenting? Why always the Lekki, Ikoyi, and Maitama versions? Between the former and the latter, which is prevalent in any given society? Which aspect do policymakers concern themselves with the most?

initially why l gave the conditions I did.Be financially, physically and mentally capable .
Then let those with all resources (not wealth alone) do it, instead of bullying them by calling them irresponsible.

Gerrard59:

I think you compare Russia to Africa, that is the problem. Compared to East Asia or the West, Russia is not a conducive society, especially economically, to thrive.

I did not compare Russia to Africa or any country. I just stated your claims were bogus just to forcefully reinforce your stance that societies with sp must be struggling.
First you claimed Denmark and Switzerland are too small. Then Russia you found
something to attack. I will not be surprised if you claim SP is irresponsible for the Russian Ukraine crisis. I know how desperation and zealousness towards an opinion can influence people.

Agreed, but as seen in the US and increasingly in the UK, there are effects with such ideologies.

They should feel free to put a policy on it, if it affect them

What is the difference between six and half a dozen?

Why I claimed your research was half baked and skewed to fit your biases.you reaserch has not being with a pure motive to gain more knowledge or insight on a topic but to find evidences to back your stance. If I knew you deliberately chose not to avail yourself
to the entire knowledge on an issue, then I will not have bothered in the first place. How could you be so desperate that you forcefully lump scenarios together just to condemn? I will not be surprised if you also lump SP due do divorce as part. That is obviously not a good use of science or statistics, if you don't include the nuances given in the statistics.
Not surprised though, there was a time ubunja claimed science was adulterated and pro-woman because it didn't include promiscuity as a reason for sagging breasts ( that time he claimed any woman with a fallen breast was promiscious). Then later on, he quoted a scientific article of how sperms are retained in a woman after sex ( same science he previously rejected).
Human beings sha

Expectedly, you provide examples where the couples are wealthy. This is the problem I have observed with so-called progressives - they popularise ideologies whose effects can be managed with lots of money but are detrimental to the majority of the populace as most people aren't wealthy or are at best average. Just as we have highly educated women promoting sexual liberation but forget that for most girls out there, the dangers could be very deleterious and managing them costs a lot of money.

I am not a zealot like you that generalized and don't give room for nuance. My stance is simple, if society find it an issue, they can make laws governing it.it will even benefit countries complaining of low population. Set up criteria for it ( salary threshold, crimal record, psychological and behavioural , presence of both parents etc). Also I didn't apply it to everyone. People that can morally, emotionally and physically, financially adopt them.if its ten percent of the population, let them 10% do it. Imagine a young promising man and a women falling in love, they welcome a baby and start to cater for the child, contributing their best, and for some your reasons you have a problem with them because of your statistics not given into account circumstances of isolated cases. And you believe you have given the best logical approach, because statistics backed it.LOL

Again, the stats show that responsible couples and adults have children within the two parent household system. I quoted an article from the world's most gender-equal society.

Did they mention marriage or two parent household? When l tell you to be careful of semantics, you will ask me the difference between 6 and half dozen.

How is that a bad thing? Didn't you read where I stated that married people contribute more to society than your lovey-dovey "healthy co-parenters"? Who does not wish for such in any society?

Nobody calls two parenthood a bad thing. Unlike you, things are not black and white for me. You are the one forcefully calling
responsible adults that chose a different path and have the resources to thread bad.

I searched and not even a handful of research papers, just opinion articles which listed some effects which when compared to the ill effects of single parenting are largely infinitesimal.

People have left marriages due to infidelity (which you promote), that has destroyed families and led to SP which you condemn( wonder why your focus is strictly on out of wedlock births). That is the point I was driving at.
Wonder how your research skipped that. Anyway, anybody can create blogs and posts with data on the internet

Tightpussy2024:
l have never claimed such. I said no woman will agree to be a baby mama just for $500 monthly welfare which is below minimum wage in the Usa. When ibekohie dishonestly claimed such

At the second bolded, maybe you and I have a different meaning for responsibility. I see irresponsibility in having kids due to sexual recklessness, without having the means to cater for them , without both parents being fully involved or for the wrong reasons ( to trap a man o

It has been really nice and interesting having this conversation with you over the past few days. I really appreciate your time and interest. Unfortunately, we have to agree to disagree even though our points have been marshalled out properly. Hopefully, we will see the results of our stances in various countries in the coming years.

Thank you.

Gerrard59:


It has been really nice and interesting having this conversation with you over the past few days. I really appreciate your time and interest. Unfortunately, we have to agree to disagree even though our points have been marshalled out properly. Hopefully, we will see the results of our stances in various countries in the coming years.

Thank you.

Eggxactly!

Like most phenomenon that has come to stay, the way forward is a solution and how to manage it, not just screaming doomed. That is being the entirety of my posts. Neither a black and white analysis.

Do have I nice week as well. Cheers!

Men 6 days to when I actually left Nigeria. I left Nigeria on the 31st of July and landed Chile on the 2nd of August and I can say coming to Chile has been the second best decision I have made in life. The first best decision was learning to code back in 2020 during covid and that single act has paid for itself over and over again in multiples. Gave me a great life in Nigeria and giving me a super great life here too.

I am officially what you would call an overemployed software engineer. Received my second contract from my second job today. I am waiting on my third contract from a Chilean multinational. With these 3 jobs my yearly income is very close to six figures in USD. Extremely very close. Once all 3 have been confirmed, I will just delete my LinkedIn profile and grind for the next 3 years. My monthly expenses doesn't exceed 300 USD

Rooting for you bro ..congrats

tensazangetsu20:
Men 6 days to when I actually left Nigeria. I left Nigeria on the 31st of July and landed Chile on the 2nd of August and I can say coming to Chile has been the second best decision I have made in life. The first best decision was learning to code back in 2020 during covid and that single act has paid for itself over and over again in multiples. Gave me a great life in Nigeria and giving me a super great life here too.

I am officially what you would call an overemployed software engineer. Received my second contract from my second job today. I am waiting on my third contract from a Chilean multinational. With these 3 jobs my yearly income is very close to six figures in USD. Extremely very close. Once all 3 have been confirmed, I will just delete my LinkedIn profile and grind for the next 3 years. My monthly expenses doesn't exceed 300 USD

tensazangetsu20:
Men 6 days to when I actually left Nigeria. I left Nigeria on the 31st of July and landed Chile on the 2nd of August and I can say coming to Chile has been the second best decision I have made in life. The first best decision was learning to code back in 2020 during covid and that single act has paid for itself over and over again in multiples. Gave me a great life in Nigeria and giving me a super great life here too.

I am officially what you would call an overemployed software engineer. Received my second contract from my second job today. I am waiting on my third contract from a Chilean multinational. With these 3 jobs my yearly income is very close to six figures in USD. Extremely very close. Once all 3 have been confirmed, I will just delete my LinkedIn profile and grind for the next 3 years. My monthly expenses doesn't exceed 300 USD

My leader! I am loyal to your gofment 🙌🏿

The bold reminds me of the dude I mentioned to you who works in Kyoto now. Man was inundated with recruiters pestering him for interviews. Until he got vexed one day and deactivated his LinkedIn profile because according to him "the connection requests and messages were so plenty. They too dey disturb me. I don tire".

As I write, the profile is still deactivated.

Gerrard59:


My leader! I am loyal to your gofment 🙌🏿

The bold reminds me of the dude I mentioned to you who works in Kyoto now. Man was inundated with recruiters pestering him for interviews. Until he got vexed one day and deactivated his LinkedIn profile because according to him "the connection requests and messages were so plenty. They too dey disturb me. I don tire".

As I write, the profile is still deactivated.

Lol mine na the fear of being tagged cause i have some of my co workers on my profile as connections. If I am tagged somewhere else they will see the notification

tensazangetsu20:
Men 6 days to when I actually left Nigeria. I left Nigeria on the 31st of July and landed Chile on the 2nd of August and I can say coming to Chile has been the second best decision I have made in life. The first best decision was learning to code back in 2020 during covid and that single act has paid for itself over and over again in multiples. Gave me a great life in Nigeria and giving me a super great life here too.

I am officially what you would call an overemployed software engineer. Received my second contract from my second job today. I am waiting on my third contract from a Chilean multinational. With these 3 jobs my yearly income is very close to six figures in USD. Extremely very close. Once all 3 have been confirmed, I will just delete my LinkedIn profile and grind for the next 3 years. My monthly expenses doesn't exceed 300 USD

Doings!

Congratulations man!

I'm curious tho. Why the need to be frugal?

With the way you are going, I see you having all those insane T & C like those blind guys.

Karleb:


Doings!

Congratulations man!

I'm curious tho. Why the need to be frugal?

With the way you are going, I see you having all those insane T & C like those blind guys.

Men I want to build up massive capital and go into crypto currency trading. While tech is good it won't give me the kind of life I want. I want to drive rolls Royce on this earth bros. Even if I go into other parts of tech I don't still see myself driving a rolls Royce or Bentley.

tensazangetsu20:


Men I want to build up massive capital and go into crypto currency trading. While tech is good it won't give me the kind of life I want. I want to drive rolls Royce on this earth bros. Even if I go into other parts of tech I don't still see myself driving a rolls Royce or Bentley.

I see.

That's the easiest way a young person can make tons of money. Not saying it's easy, to me it's the easiest of them all.

Have you considered trading foreign exchange too? These days now, we have a lot of proprietary trading firms and with less than USD2K, you could be USD1m funded. Since you plan is a long term one. I think you should put that into consideration.

Karleb:


I see.

That's the easiest way a young person can make tons of money. Not saying it's easy, to me it's the easiest of them all.

Have you considered trading foreign exchange too? These days now, we have a lot of proprietary trading firms and with less than USD2K, you could be USD1m funded. Since you plan is a long term one. I think you should put that into consideration.

I no wan use eye hear forex na crypto I actually dey interested in cause I have actually made money on crypto especially when I was working in Nigeria but I had to stop because I needed to save money to Japa but I have had my money literally double overnight in crypto so I know crypto works. I dey learn am from the basics but once I am quite comfortable in it. I will go in on it very seriously.

tensazangetsu20:


Men I want to build up massive capital and go into crypto currency trading. While tech is good it won't give me the kind of life I want. I want to drive rolls Royce on this earth bros. Even if I go into other parts of tech I don't still see myself driving a rolls Royce or Bentley.

Blunt liar.