You shall not steal is a very popular commandment which Moses, Jesus and Paul did promote from the old testament to the New testament:

You shall not steal. Deuteronomy 5:19

You shall not steal. Exodus 20:15

You must not steal. You must not lie or deceive one another. Leviticus 19:11

Jesus even told the rich ruler to obey the commandments:
“Which ones?” the man asked. Jesus answered, “‘Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not bear false witness. Matthew 19:18

However we read:
At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick the heads of grain and eat them. Matthew 12:1

One Sabbath Jesus was passing through the grainfields, and His disciples began to pick the heads of grain as they walked along. Mark 2:23

One Sabbath Jesus was passing through the grainfields, and His disciples began to pick the heads of grain, rub them in their hands, and eat them. Luke 6:1

1. Do you think this is stealing?

2. Do you think Jesus approved this laws to satisfy the hunger of his disciples?

When you enter your neighbor’s vineyard, you may eat your fill of grapes, but you must not put any in your basket. When you enter your neighbor’s grainfield, you may pluck the heads of grain with your hand, but you must not put a sickle to your neighbor’s grain. Deuteronomy 23:25

3. If Jesus approved this law for his disciples can any Christian still obey this Jesus's law today?

AntiChristian:
You shall not steal is a very popular commandment which Moses, Jesus and Paul did promote from the old testament to the New testament:

You shall not steal. Deuteronomy 5:19

You shall not steal. Exodus 20:15

You must not steal. You must not lie or deceive one another. Leviticus 19:11

Jesus even told the rich ruler to obey the commandments:
“Which ones?” the man asked. Jesus answered, “‘Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not bear false witness. Matthew 19:18

However we read:
At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick the heads of grain and eat them. Matthew 12:1

One Sabbath Jesus was passing through the grainfields, and His disciples began to pick the heads of grain as they walked along. Mark 2:23

One Sabbath Jesus was passing through the grainfields, and His disciples began to pick the heads of grain, rub them in their hands, and eat them. Luke 6:1

1. Do you think this is stealing?

2. Do you think Jesus approved this laws to satisfy the hunger of his disciples?

When you enter your neighbor’s vineyard, you may eat your fill of grapes, but you must not put any in your basket. When you enter your neighbor’s grainfield, you may pluck the heads of grain with your hand, but you must not put a sickle to your neighbor’s grain. Deuteronomy 23:25

3. If Jesus approved this law for his disciples can any Christian still obey this Jesus's law today?

Did anyone accuse Jesus of stealing? Did He and His disciples do it secretly? Did they break any law? The only accusation they gave Him was that He was plucking grains on the Sabbath. Why didn't they accuse Him of stealing? It's because this is what the law says:

Deuteronomy 23:24
"If you enter your neighbor’s vineyard, you may eat all the grapes you want, but do not put any in your basket."

Jesus broke no law. He stole nothing. But Mohammed was actually accused of stealing a very expensive garment. He was so accused because He couldn't even be trusted.

I do not want to reply any of your threads because the devil has blinded your heart and you have remained obstinate. I even advised you to pray a neutral prayer which you rejected. You love the lies of Islam more than you love your soul.

FxMasterz:


Did anyone accuse Jesus of stealing? Did He and His disciples do it secretly? Did they break any law? The only accusation they gave Him was that He was plucking grains on the Sabbath. Why didn't they accuse Him of stealing? It's because this is what the law says:

Deuteronomy 23:24
"If you enter your neighbor’s vineyard, you may eat all the grapes you want, but do not put any in your basket."

Jesus broke no law. He stole nothing. But Mohammed was actually accused of stealing a very expensive garment. He was so accused because He couldn't even be trusted.

I do not what to reply any of your threads because the devil has blinded your heart and you have remained obstinate. I even advised you to pray a neutral prayer which you rejected. You love the lies of Islam more than you love your soul.

Jesus did broke the law he quoted!

Answer questions 2 and 3 too!

If they born you well follow Jesus and so same now!

AntiChristian:


Jesus did broke the law he quoted!

Answer questions 2 and 3 too!

If they born you well follow Jesus and so same now!

Why are you boiling? I must have stricken a chord.

I'll go back and answer your question in full. Afterwards, I'll leave you to your own delusions.

FxMasterz:


Why are you boiling? I must have stricken a chord.

I'll go back and answer your question in full. Afterwards, I'll leave you to your own delusions.

Do that and don't lie Jesus and the disciples did not steal.

You should define stealing which is permissible for Christians and that which is not till today!

AntiChristian:
You shall not steal is a very popular commandment which Moses, Jesus and Paul did promote from the old testament to the New testament:

You shall not steal. Deuteronomy 5:19

You shall not steal. Exodus 20:15

You must not steal. You must not lie or deceive one another. Leviticus 19:11

Jesus even told the rich ruler to obey the commandments:
“Which ones?” the man asked. Jesus answered, “‘Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not bear false witness. Matthew 19:18

However we read:
At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick the heads of grain and eat them. Matthew 12:1

One Sabbath Jesus was passing through the grainfields, and His disciples began to pick the heads of grain as they walked along. Mark 2:23

One Sabbath Jesus was passing through the grainfields, and His disciples began to pick the heads of grain, rub them in their hands, and eat them. Luke 6:1

1. Do you think this is stealing?

2. Do you think Jesus approved this laws to satisfy the hunger of his disciples?

When you enter your neighbor’s vineyard, you may eat your fill of grapes, but you must not put any in your basket. When you enter your neighbor’s grainfield, you may pluck the heads of grain with your hand, but you must not put a sickle to your neighbor’s grain. Deuteronomy 23:25

3. If Jesus approved this law for his disciples can any Christian still obey this Jesus's law today?

1. Do you think this is stealing? grin

Have you ever seen a thief who enters another person's farm to steal in broad day light? Jesus and His disciples entered the farm openly in the open glare of everyone because the action was normal in Israel. The people, His enemies didn't act surprised because it was a normal thing legally permitted in Israel in those days. Everyone does this. The only problem they had with Him was that He was doing it on the Sabbath. An ignorant fellow like you who does not know the customs of the people, and who wasn't present at the event cannot accuse Him of what His contemporaries did not accuse Him of. A person is a thief only if he carries a bag into a farm according to the Jewish tradition.

This is different from the case of Mohammed who was accused of stealing because even the people could not vouch for him in terms of integrity!

2. Do you think Jesus approved this laws to satisfy the hunger of his disciples?

Jesus didn't have to approve any law. He wasn't an approver of laws. It was the law of Moses, and Mosaic laws were what shaped Jewish customs in those days. The tradition of entering into a farm to eat without carrying anything home was a normal tradition in Israel. If anyone takes a bag into the farm, that's the only time he or she can be called a thief.

When you enter your neighbor’s vineyard, you may eat your fill of grapes, but you must not put any in your basket. When you enter your neighbor’s grainfield, you may pluck the heads of grain with your hand, but you must not put a sickle to your neighbor’s grain. Deuteronomy 23:25

3. If Jesus approved this law for his disciples can any Christian still obey this Jesus's law today?

The law shaped Israel's traditions. That was Israel's custom. Jesus didn't command everyone to practice the law of Moses. A Christian should obey the law of His land. If the law in your land allows this custom, obey it as a Christian. If the law of your land does not allow this custom, obey the law of your land as a Christian. The Bible teaches us to obey the laws of the land.

Can you now tell us which law Mohammed was obeying when he was sleeping with a 9yr old girl whom he started fingering from age 4? Or tell us the law he was obeying when he took over the wife of his stepson.

AntiChristian:


Jesus did broke the law he quoted!

Answer questions 2 and 3 too!

If they born you well follow Jesus and so same now!

you get mental problems.infact you go enter market tear cloth this week. You be olofo Omo oh.Your peodophile prophet tear 8 year old hymen and you still get mouth to talk?

AntiChristian:

Jesus did broke the law he quoted!
Answer questions 2 and 3 too!
If they born you well follow Jesus and so same now!

FRANCISTOWN:

Jesus stole from a field that was not his farm and also stole a donkey that was not his.

Should we say because he was was Jesus he never stole and not a thief. What kind of example did he lay for his followers?
Are christians free to take what doesn't belong to them without permission because they are children of God just like Jesus.

My question is. Did Jesus steal or not?

If you enter your neighbor’s vineyard, you may eat enough grapes to satisfy your appetite, but you should not put any in your container.
If you go into your neighbor’s field of standing grain, you may pluck the ripe ears with your hand, but you should not put a sickle to your neighbor’s grain. Deuteronomy 23:24-25

No country in the world today where this laws are in force even modern day Israel because they're no longer using God's commandments unlike their forefathers under the Mosaic laws.

But in Jesus' day Jews were still practicing what the Mosaic says (partially) though they were under Roman rule!

If not that you are a mad muslim, you would have seen that even though He was challenged, His enemies did not accuse Him of stealing!

Unlike your Mohammed who stole garment.

God punish you. E no go better for you anywhere till you go hellfire!

FxMasterz:




Have you ever seen a thief who enters another person's farm to steal in broad day light? Jesus and His disciples entered the farm openly in the open glare of everyone because the action was normal in Israel. The people, His enemies didn't act surprised because it was a normal thing legally permitted in Israel in those days. Everyone does this. The only problem they had with Him was that He was doing it on the Sabbath. An ignorant fellow like you who does not know the customs of the people, and who wasn't present at the event cannot accuse Him of what His contemporaries did not accuse Him of. A person is a thief only if he carries a bag into a farm according to the Jewish tradition.

This is different from the case of Mohammed who was accused of stealing because even the people could not vouch for him in terms of integrity!


Jesus didn't have to approve any law. He wasn't an approver of laws. It was the law of Moses, and Mosaic laws were what shaped Jewish customs in those days. The tradition of entering into a farm to eat without carrying anything home was a normal tradition in Israel. If anyone takes a bag into the farm, that's the only time he or she can be called a thief.



The law shaped Israel's traditions. That was Israel's custom. Jesus didn't command everyone to practice the law of Moses. A Christian should obey the law of His land. If the law in your land allows this custom, obey it as a Christian. If the law of your land does not allow this custom, obey the law of your land as a Christian. The Bible teaches us to obey the laws of the land.

Can you now tell us which law Mohammed was obeying when he was sleeping with a 9yr old girl whom he started fingering from age 4? Or tell us the law he was obeying when he took over the wife of his stepson.

You will have to show us the law Muhammad contravened in his marriage to Aa'isha with her father's consent.

I will say Jesus broke two commandments of Moses which are also the commandments he approved of!

You shall not steal. Just because it is common for people to steal doesn't make it normal!

That's why you refuse to define stealing! What exactly is stealing from the Bible?

Love your neighbour as yourself. If you love your neighbour will you openly steal his grain?

And you have the audacity to say openly stealing grains is a common thing which was permitted in Israel in those days!

The second commandment broken is covetousness.

Deuteronomy 5:21 says: “You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife; and you shall not desire your neighbor’s house, his field, his male servant, his female servant, his ox, his donkey, or anything that is your neighbor’s.”

So even if they were hungry they shouldn't have covet their neighbours' grains! They didn't have faith like the mustard seed. Didn't Jesus say if you have faith like the mustard seed you can move mountains?

How about Jesus miraculously providing food for them? Shebi what God cannot do does not exist! And ask and you shall be given!

I remember Jesus said man shall not live by bread alone...but here when they wanted to steal men had to survive by neighbour's grain!

And also why did they steal instead of reciting the lord's prayer "Give us this day out daily bread" 🍞?

MaxInDHouse:


If you enter your neighbor’s vineyard, you may eat enough grapes to satisfy your appetite, but you should not put any in your container.
If you go into your neighbor’s field of standing grain, you may pluck the ripe ears with your hand, but you should not put a sickle to your neighbor’s grain. Deuteronomy 23:24-25

No country in the world today where this laws are in force even modern day Israel because they're no longer using God's commandments unlike their forefathers under the Mosaic laws.

But in Jesus' day Jews were still practicing what the Mosaic says (partially) though they were under Roman rule!

So what is stealing?
What is covetousness of neighbors property?

Plus1234:
you get mental problems.infact you go enter market tear cloth this week. You be olofo Omo oh.Your peodophile prophet tear 8 year old hymen and you still get mouth to talk?

I get mouth to talk o!
Show us the laws he broke in your Bible?

Didn't your God and other Israelites share war virgins in Numbers 31? Your God got 32 virgins in Numbers 31: 40 after all the men and non-virgins were killed!

Go check and come back!

AntiChristian:


I get mouth to talk o!
Show us the laws he broke in your Bible?

Didn't your God and other Israelites share war virgins in Numbers 31? Your God got 32 virgins in Numbers 31: 40 after all the men and non-virgins were killed!

Go check and come back!

Your stupid prophet rape and disvirgin Omo 8 years.God in the Bible will never allow such barbaric attitude.war bounty no be 8 year old pikin.Listen to yourself.

AntiChristian:

So what is stealing?
What is covetousness of neighbors property?

Stealing according to God's commandments in that context is what you took and while going it's discovered in your possession not what you eat to survive.
Note what that law says:

"If you enter your neighbor’s vineyard, you may eat enough grapes to satisfy your appetite, but you should not put any in your container." Deuteronomy 23:24

Note the three points:

• Neighbor's vineyard
• Eat enough grapes to satisfy your appetite
• You should not put any in your container

So from the standpoint of the God of Israel it's the grapes found in your possession on your way out of your neighbor's vineyard that's stealing!

AntiChristian:


Jesus did broke the law he quoted!

Answer questions 2 and 3 too!

If they born you well follow Jesus and so same now!

#2. The Law of Moses happened to be the National Constitution in the nation of Judah in the land of Canaan. Every Israelite in the land at the time live under the Law that was YHWH until the Kingdom of God came at the end of days -- after the death of Jesus Christ

#3. His disciples were Israelites and existed in the land of Israel and were subjects of the Law like Jesus Christ was.

One fine quality i have learned from the true Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) is how they're happy to be accused by genuine and sincere individuals who wants to know the reason behind their faith in the God of their choice, it gives them the opportunity to bear thorough witness about the true God in a loving way! 1Peter 3:13-15

So it's their zeal, calmness and boldness when speaking about their God {Matthew 7:28-29} that amazes me and i just can't deny the fact that they are the true followers of Christ that's why i abandoned Islam to become one of them today.

After few discussions on faith in the Bible God these are the comments of a Nairalander about my attitude:

Questionnaires:

MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

Questionnaires:

You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.

So just as Jesus calmly addressed a Jews who felt nothing good could come out of Jesus' place of residence {John 1:46} true Christians were taught by Christ Jesus to be wise as serpents and harmless as doves {Matthew 10:16} it will go a long way in convincing sincere and honest hearted individuals that we are the students {Act 1:8} taught by the world's most wonderful counselor of all time {Isaiah 9:6} Jesus of Nazareth!

AntiChristian:


You will have to show us the law Muhammad contravened in his marriage to Aa'isha with her father's consent.

I will say Jesus broke two commandments of Moses which are also the commandments he approved of!

You shall not steal. Just because it is common for people to steal doesn't make it normal!

That's why you refuse to define stealing! What exactly is stealing from the Bible?

Love your neighbour as yourself. If you love your neighbour will you openly steal his grain?

And you have the audacity to say openly stealing grains is a common thing which was permitted in Israel in those days!

The second commandment broken is covetousness.


So even if they were hungry they shouldn't have covet their neighbours' grains! They didn't have faith like the mustard seed. Didn't Jesus say if you have faith like the mustard seed you can move mountains?

How about Jesus miraculously providing food for them? Shebi what God cannot do does not exist! And ask and you shall be given!

I remember Jesus said man shall not live by bread alone...but here when they wanted to steal men had to survive by neighbour's grain!

And also why did they steal instead of reciting the lord's prayer "Give us this day out daily bread" 🍞?

It's either you don't have sense or you are a slowpoke. No offence.

So, assuming a government gives a law that anyone can enter into a place to pick something as long as such a person does not take more than 2 of that thing, anyone who goes to take that thing is a thief? Such a person is covetous? The Pharisees and the people around didn't shout that they've caught a thief, yet to you that is stealing?

Stealing is to take something belonging to another secretly without the owner's consent. As long as everyone has consented to that law, anyone can eat from any farm whenever he or she is hungry. The only thing is that you must not go in there with a bag! I don't know why someone would have to be explaining such a simple thing to a supposed adult.

Now, let me answer your question on Mohamed. How many people in Arabia at Mohammad s time were ever recorded to have married a 4yr old? The father of the girl was obviously forced to consent or else he'll die. Which father in his sane mind would hand over his daughter to a so called prophet to start defiling her at 4 and have sex with her at 9? If mohammed was to be alive today, he'll be in jail.

FxMasterz:


It's either you don't have sense or you are a slowpoke. No offence.

You've already abused. I support report you to the mods but make i forgive you! I dey good mood!

So, assuming a government gives a law that anyone can enter into a place to pick something as long as such a person does not take more than 2 of that thing, anyone who goes to take that thing is a thief? Such a person is covetous? The Pharisees and the people around didn't shout that they've caught a thief, yet to you that is stealing?

Which government approved any law? So if you take few grains it is not stealing but if you take more then that is stealing? Is this a Christian law or was Jesus and his disciple simply Jewish?

Stealing is to take something belonging to another secretly without the owner's consent. As long as everyone has consented to that law, anyone can eat from any farm whenever he or she is hungry. The only thing is that you must not go in there with a bag! I don't know why someone would have to be explaining such a simple thing to a supposed adult.

You should explain it because this law only exists in the Bible! No country uses such laws as far as i know! So if politicians steal money so far as it is stolen publicly and they didn't carry Ghana must go they didn't steal! Or let's say they stole few millions because they were hungry! My guy stealing is stealing! All these excuses no cut am!

Now, let me answer your question on Mohamed. How many people in Arabia at Mohammad s time were ever recorded to have married a 4yr old?

You should bring evidence they don't exist!

The father of the girl was obviously forced to consent or else he'll die.

Where is your proof?

Which father in his sane mind would hand over his daughter to a so called prophet to start defiling her at 4 and have sex with her at 9?

The Prophet married her at 6 years with the father's consent. The father is one of the closest companion of the Prophet and the first Caliph after the Prophet. He was the one who completed the compilation of the Qur'an. He also accompanied the Prophet from Mecca to Medina when they were persecuted. The best man on earth after the Prophets of Allah! Abu Bakr was also a very rich man who gave everything for Islam! May Allah be pleased with him and others!

If mohammed was to be alive today, he'll be in jail.

The simple question you are yet to answer is which laws did he break in the scripture or any common laws of his time?

AntiChristian:
You've already abused. I support report you to the mods but make i forgive you! I dey good mood!

Which government approved any law? So if you take few grains it is not stealing but if you take more then that is stealing? Is this a Christian law or was Jesus and his disciple simply Jewish?

You should explain it because this law only exists in the Bible! No country uses such laws as far as i know! So if politicians steal money so far as it is stolen publicly and they didn't carry Ghana must go they didn't steal! Or let's say they stole few millions because they were hungry! My guy stealing is stealing! All these excuses no cut am!

You should bring evidence they don't exist!

Where is your proof?

The Prophet married her at 6 years with the father's consent. The father is one of the closest companion of the Prophet and the first Caliph after the Prophet. He was the one who completed the compilation of the Qur'an. He also accompanied the Prophet from Mecca to Medina when they were persecuted. The best man on earth after the Prophets of Allah! Abu Bakr was also a very rich man who gave everything for Islam! May Allah be pleased with him and others!

The simple question you are yet to answer is which laws did he break in the scripture or any common laws of his time?

A law is a law. Not every law exists in every country. Whatever a country accepts as law, no one can accuse any citizen of such country of anything as long as they have acted within the ambits of their laws The citizens didn't complain. The farm owner didn't complain. The enemies of Jesus didn't complain. It is not stealing according to the customs of those days. I didn't abuse you, I can't just fathom why one has to explain such a simple thing to an adult. Keep your forgiveness to yourself because you're simply being mischievous. You're the first to blaspheme, so let the mods look into it. The passage is clear. No one has ever made such idiotic accusation as the one on this thread. Such a clear passage? Who accuses anyone for practicing the custom of his land except a slowpoke! The custom is a good custom because God promised the Israelites that if they allow the hungry to feed in their farms, He'll bless them as a result.

Mohammed broke a moral law by taking advantage of the kid. It isn't the father of a woman alone that's supposed to give consent. The woman must give consent too. Mohammed took the infant without the infant's consent. Both mohammed and the girl's father would be in jail if they were to be living today.

AntiChristian:

Which laws did he break in the scripture or any common laws of his time?

With this you've turned everything into a joke.

Because Neither Jesus nor Muhammad broke any single law in their time it's when you're now looking into their case with the view of modern societal laws that you will begin to find faults!

AntiChristian:

I get mouth to talk o!

I've told you several times that you surely have the zeal to TALK about God but unfortunately Islam is not the right place for you.

Take preaching for instance, in ancient times when people do talk about God to their neighbors what makes it appropriate back then?

Well it's because those gods are like rulers and the ancient kings also claim to be demigods in their own territories so it makes sense for the kings and gods to send town criers to their subjects/worshipers regarding informations they have for them that's why it is recorded in the Bible that prophets back in ancient Israel used to go into their streets, villages, towns and cities preaching aloud everywhere they go. From the time of Moses till the day of John the baptist Prophets do preach aloud in Streets because all passersby are familiar with the God or king whose message the criers or prophets brought to them.
Here in Africa our traditional rulers and priests of our gods does the same sending town criers to inform the people of whatever is imminent.

But by the time Jesus of Nazareth introduced Christianity it was totally a different story as he will not shout in the streets disturbing passersby {Matthew 12:19} rather he was going to meet people in their homes to speak with them one on one.

Why the difference?

Because by the time Jesus walked the earth it wasn't one God that inhabitants of Jerusalem worshiped anymore. There were Roman governors living within Judea and mixed tribes under the Roman empire lives everywhere so shouting in the streets about a God that's not familiar with all passersby makes no sense anymore, that's why Jesus told his disciples to visit only Jews in their homes as they will easily understand what these preachers are doing unlike people who don't have any business with the God of the Jews. Matthew 10:6

What about our time?
Does it make sense shouting in the streets?

Well it's totally inappropriate because within our neighborhood there are Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Traditionalists, Atheists, Agnostics, Judaists and of course members of Christendom churches all claiming they're intelligent people. So imagine an individual in your street shouting and telling people that they will perish not because they broke any societal laws but due to having a different view regarding sacred service to God.


So what Jesus of Nazareth introduced that day remains the best ever in talking about God as you approach your neighbor, introduce yourself and strike a conversation with him or her about what God requires of mankind. This will make the serenity appealing as your listener will feel at home asking you questions and you also responding in a neighborly manner even if both of you disagree on views the cordiality can't end just like that rather you will learn about your neighbor's dos and donts with a view to his beliefs while he also learn about yours hence both of you can relate peacefully after knowing what each other believes.

But what if you stand in your mosque and with a megaphone start throwing tantrums against your neighbors regarding their beliefs and they also does the same to you in their churches how easily do you think peace could be achieved?

No wonder the Bible referred to Jesus as the world's most wonderful counselor of all time! Isaiah 9:6

I really love your zeal but to be frank with you there is nothing positive that could be achieved in speaking abusively about your neighbor's beliefs neither will God judge them for speaking against yours!

MaxInDHouse:


With this you've turned everything into a joke.

Because Neither Jesus nor Muhammad broke any single law in their time it's when you're now looking into their case with the view of modern societal laws that you will begin to find faults!

You shall not steal!

You shall not covet your neighbor's item (even grain lol)!

FxMasterz:



A law is a law. Not every law exists in every country. Whatever a country accepts as law, no one can accuse any citizen of such country of anything as long as they have acted within the ambits of their laws The citizens didn't complain. The farm owner didn't complain. The enemies of Jesus didn't complain. It is not stealing according to the customs of those days. I didn't abuse you, I can't just fathom why one has to explain such a simple thing to an adult. Keep your forgiveness to yourself because you're simply being mischievous. You're the first to blaspheme, so let the mods look into it. The passage is clear. No one has ever made such idiotic accusation as the one on this thread. Such a clear passage? Who accuses anyone for practicing the custom of his land except a slowpoke! The custom is a good custom because God promised the Israelites that if they allow the hungry to feed in their farms, He'll bless them as a result.

Mohammed broke a moral law by taking advantage of the kid. It isn't the father of a woman alone that's supposed to give consent. The woman must give consent too. Mohammed took the infant without the infant's consent. Both mohammed and the girl's father should be in jail if they were to be living today.

The Bible did complain! You also defined stealing as taking what does not belong to you!

Jesus stole those grains!
It is stealing even if everyone does it as there were other means for them to eat.

Quote the laws Muhammad broke from your Bible here make we see?
Jesus broke You shall not steal and You shall not covet your neighbor's property (aka grain).

AntiChristian:


The Bible did complain! You also defined stealing as taking what does not belong to you!

It seems you're also stealing on Nairaland by using a site that does not belong to you! Let's just go by your defective and mohammedic logic!

Jesus stole those grains!
It is stealing even if everyone does it as there were other means for them to eat.

You've stolen the Nairaland platform to type these nonesense. I wonder how you managed to pass through school with this type of reasoning.

Quote the laws Muhammad broke from your Bible here make we see?
Jesus broke You shall not steal and You shall not covet your neighbor's property (aka grain).

Moral laws are universal codes that are not written down. By them, if mohammed and the child's father were alive today, they'll be in jail.

AntiChristian:

You shall not steal!
You shall not covet your neighbor's item (even grain lol)!

YES!
You can be confused but in this context who defines STEALING, a 21th century Muslim or the Author of that law you're quoting?

Well from His viewpoint neither the sower or the one eating owns the land or grains that was planted nor do they have power to make it grow so it's the One who has all the power to give mankind life, grains, land, rain and sunshine who later said if someone is hungry he or she could pluck grains enough to satisfy his or her appetite within the land of Israel!
To God the person claiming ownership of the grain field is guilty of blood if his neighbor should die of hunger while he is storing grains for money!

Imagine someone watched his fellow believer suffer and die of hunger while he is stockpiling food for sale only to start starving himself claiming he is fasting for God!

AntiChristian:


Jesus did broke the law he quoted!

Answer questions 2 and 3 too!

If they born you well follow Jesus and so same now!

Oga i asked you this question the order time are you a mulsim

FxMasterz:

It seems you're also stealing on Nairaland by using a site that does not belong to you! Let's just go by your defective and mohammedic logic!

Whose grain did i touch? I have contributed to Nairaland's success at least a few of my post made front page!

You've stolen the Nairaland platform to type these nonesense. I wonder how you managed to pass through school with this type of reasoning.

It is typical of you guys abusing me! Whenever you can no more defend falsehood then you start to abuse! Your logic is not reasonable and illogical. It is Nairaland Forum. A forum is like a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged. The field Jesus and his disciples stole from is not a public field! At least you need to marry a wife before you sleep with her! Any other kind of sleeping with a woman is called fornication!

Moral laws are universal codes that are not written down. By them, if mohammed and the child's father were alive today, they'll be in jail.

I know you will never be able to state the laws he broke till you die! Continue to wallow in ignorance and arrogance!

So much of Muhammad married Aa'isha. State the laws he broke you became dumb!

Some still marry young today! And it is not a crime!
Angola and the Philippines still have an age of consent set at 12 years old.
France specifies the minimum age of consent as 15 according to Article 227-25 of the Penal Code.
Britain sets the age of consent at 16.
Germany and China have an age of consent of 14.
Japan recently raised its age of consent from 13 to 16.

Kingsempires:
Oga i asked you this question the order time are you a mulsim

Didn't i answer you?

Of course i am a Muslim.

MaxInDHouse:


YES!
You can be confused but in this context who defines STEALING, a 21th century Muslim or the Author of that law you're quoting?

Well from His viewpoint neither the sower or the one eating owns the land or grains that was planted nor do they have power to make it grow so it's the One who has all the power to give mankind life, grains, land, rain and sunshine who later said if someone is hungry he or she could pluck grains enough to satisfy his or her appetite within the land of Israel!
To God the person claiming ownership of the grain field is guilty of blood if his neighbor should die of hunger while he is storing grains for money!

Imagine someone watched his fellow believer suffer and die of hunger while he is stockpiling food for sale only to start starving himself claiming he is fasting for God!

Jesus said Ask and you shall be given! Matthew 7:7
Why can't they ask?

Max they stole from the field! You have no excuse!

AntiChristian:
Whose grain did i touch? I have contributed to Nairaland's success at least a few of my post made front page!

It is typical of you guys abusing me! Whenever you can no more defend falsehood then you start to abuse! Your logic is not reasonable and illogical. It is Nairaland Forum. A forum is like a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged. The field Jesus and his disciples stole from is not a public field! At least you need to marry a wife before you sleep with her! Any other kind of sleeping with a woman is called fornication!

No one is abusing you, you are the one abusing yourself with your low IQ.

You're using Nairaland for free. Is it your platform! You're therefore a thief by the same logic. Jesus also contributed a lot to the Israelites. They even wanted to make Him a king!

I know you will never be able to state the laws he broke till you die! Continue to wallow in ignorance and arrogance!

So much of Muhammad married Aa'isha. State the laws he broke you became dumb!

Some still marry young today! And it is not a crime!
Angola and the Philippines still have an age of consent set at 12 years old.
France specifies the minimum age of consent as 15 according to Article 227-25 of the Penal Code.
Britain sets the age of consent at 16.
Germany and China have an age of consent of 14.
Japan recently raised its age of consent from 13 to 16.

I have stated the law he broke. Read through many laws of many nations today, marrying an infant is criminal. Mohammed would be imprisoned for life, both him and the girl's father if he were to do this nonsense in Lagos today!

FxMasterz:

No one is abusing you, you are the one abusing yourself with your low IQ.

More abuse! You inherited this abusive nature!

You're using Nairaland for free. Is it your platform! You're therefore a thief by the same logic. Jesus also contributed a lot to the Israelites. They even wanted to make Him a king!

Nairaland is a Forum. A forum is like a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged. The field Jesus and his disciples stole from is not a public field! At least you need to marry a wife before you sleep with her! Any other kind of sleeping with a woman is called fornication!

I have stated the law he broke. Read through many laws of many nations today, marrying an infant is criminal. Mohammed would be imprisoned for life, both him and the girl's father if he were to do this nonsense in Lagos today!

Quote the verse or constitution for us here!

The laws Jesus broke are so clear!

1. Old Testament:
Exodus 20:15 - "You shall not steal."
Exodus 20:17 - "You shall not covet your neighbor's property (i.e. grain)"

Leviticus 19:11 - "You shall not steal; you shall not deal falsely; you shall not lie to one another."
Jeremiah 7:9 - "Will you steal, murder, commit adultery, swear falsely, make offerings to Baal, and go after other gods that you have not known?"

2. New Testament:
Matthew 19:18 - "He said to him, 'Which ones?' And Jesus said, 'You shall not murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness.'"
Romans 13:9 - "For the commandments, 'You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,' and any other commandment, are summed up in this word: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.'"

Paul even advised them to go and work! Jesus was a carpenter. Some disciples were fishermen! Matthew was a tax collector! They all ended up fishing other's farm!
Ephesians 4:28 - "Let the thief no longer steal, but rather let him labor, doing honest work with his own hands, so that he may have something to share with anyone in need."

1 Corinthians 6:10 - "Nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."
Colossians 3:5 - "Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry."

AntiChristian:
More abuse! You inherited this abusive nature!

No abuse. Just calling your attention to your reasoning flaws!

Nairaland is a Forum. A forum is like a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged. The field Jesus and his disciples stole from is not a public field! At least you need to marry a wife before you sleep with her! Any other kind of sleeping with a woman is called fornication!

Same way, in Israel, a farm was a place where hungry people can fill their stomachs. All fields are public fields according to Israel custom! If it was otherwise, the people around would arrest them for stealing. You slowpoke!

Quote the verse or constitution for us here!

The laws Jesus broke are so clear!

1. Old Testament:
Exodus 20:15 - "You shall not steal."
Exodus 20:17 - "You shall not covet your neighbor's property (i.e. grain)"

Leviticus 19:11 - "You shall not steal; you shall not deal falsely; you shall not lie to one another."
Jeremiah 7:9 - "Will you steal, murder, commit adultery, swear falsely, make offerings to Baal, and go after other gods that you have not known?"

2. New Testament:
Matthew 19:18 - "He said to him, 'Which ones?' And Jesus said, 'You shall not murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness.'"
Romans 13:9 - "For the commandments, 'You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,' and any other commandment, are summed up in this word: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.'"

Paul even advised them to go and work! Jesus was a carpenter. Some disciples were fishermen! Matthew was a tax collector! They all ended up fishing other's farm!
Ephesians 4:28 - "Let the thief no longer steal, but rather let him labor, doing honest work with his own hands, so that he may have something to share with anyone in need."

1 Corinthians 6:10 - "Nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."
Colossians 3:5 - "Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry."

Hehehe, only a slowspoke would justify a man over 50yrs fingering a 4 yr old. I guess that's what you've been doing in your neighborhoods. Like prophet like follower!

Don't worry, go find a 4yr old to marry if you care to know what the law says. Just go to Lagos and test the law!

Jesus broke no law because no law says a man should not eat from a farm when he's hungry in Israel!